Nougat roll out for HTC 10 halted due to bugs - HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion

This isn't the best news.
http://m.gsmarena.com/skype_for_lin..._to_autostart_launch_minimized-news-22752.php

We can probably safely say March or April. Oh well.
All kidding aside: llabtoofer just said within the next 3 weeks all you guys in Europe should have it. Enjoy
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Nougat is not ready for prime time. Not impressed at all. My custom MM rom works perfectly. I tried Nougat. Uninstalled.

Looks like soon it would be the US unlocked users getting angry : why the heck we're using a buggy version??
Even now it's EU users are complaining : when the heck could we taste nougat...??

tony_5309 said:
We can probably safely say March or April. Oh well.
All kidding aside: llabtoofer just said within the next 3 weeks all you guys in Europe should have it. Enjoy
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he said we will havw 2 months ago

Alpert3 said:
Looks like soon it would be the US unlocked users getting angry : why the heck we're using a buggy version??
Even now it's EU users are complaining : when the heck could we taste nougat...??
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I have the US unlocked model and I'm using the latest firmware with Maximus HD and ElementalX installed, no complains at all so far the stock ROM was also fine the few weeks I used it

DeadPotato said:
I have the US unlocked model and I'm using the latest firmware with Maximus HD and ElementalX installed, no complains at all so far the stock ROM was also fine the few weeks I used it
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Maximus HD is based on leaked EU update. And I am not talking about that.
Maybe you haven't seen what does the dev of Maximus say about the upcoming EU OTA?

No one has specified what "buggy" even means... is it something minor like a laggy UI or a major security vulnerability like stagefright?

*bugs* is a bull excuse in regards to no updates
while while they're fixing these bugs *with N then why didnt they continue to update our devices on MM with the monthly security updates ?
Europe unlocked devices haven't had an update since October & that came with the august 2016 security patch what happened too September, November , December, January
this fixed version of N will be out in February according to llabtoofer will likely be 7.0, we probably wont see 7.1 until spring (htc ultra hasn't even released yet & thats on 7.0)

Alpert3 said:
Maximus HD is based on leaked EU update. And I am not talking about that.
Maybe you haven't seen what does the dev of Maximus say about the upcoming EU OTA?
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I'm taking about you said US users now will be angry about why they were left with a buggy firmware, and I'm telling you I used it with the stock ROM and I'm not angry about it. He said the EU build was more stable, that doesn't mean that the US was a bad build though and yes, it may be based on such firmware but I'm using it with the US one

DeadPotato said:
I'm taking about you said US users now will be angry about why they were left with a buggy firmware, and I'm telling you I used it with the stock ROM and I'm not angry about it. He said the EU build was more stable, that doesn't mean that the US was a bad build though and yes, it may be based on such firmware but I'm using it with the US one
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Come on man, I am not saying US update isn't good. I am saying compare to EU update, US one is less responsive and less smooth. Been treated differently might make some users angry. #sense of humour#...

I am sure the US will also get the equivalent matching update around the same time

7.0 has been a mess, and even 7.1.1 has alot of problems, even on nexus/pixel devices. It would suck to be on 7.x and have that 30% battery bugg that alot of people experience. And thats just the obvious buggs.
7.x does not offer enough of a upgrade to make it worth having a buggy release. Esp if one is stuck with that buggy version for months.

I have the Nougat update on my T-Mobile HTC 10 completely stock not rooted and have experienced a few bugs.the day after I updated I took a picture and the phone froze went into a reboot and actually rebooted itself 4 times before it went back into the system. Had a random reboot another time and had an instance where my phone would not charge but a reboot fixed the issue
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And please remember there's no OS nor app is bug free in the world. It is an excuse but also the truth.
I bought iPhone 7 last just want to experience a "smooth OS", but it freezed while taking a picture, battery drops very quickly and phone got every hot randomly... So yeah, back to HTC.

jmkhenka said:
7.0 has been a mess, and even 7.1.1 has alot of problems, even on nexus/pixel devices. It would suck to be on 7.x and have that 30% battery bugg that alot of people experience. And thats just the obvious buggs.
7.x does not offer enough of a upgrade to make it worth having a buggy release. Esp if one is stuck with that buggy version for months.
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I tried N for a bit on Viper and had bad battery drain so I went back to MM and still had that battery drain, I found out Facebook has been causing bad battery so I uninstalled it and Messenger and seems to be much better. I was wondering if Facebook was my issue on N as well or if it was Android N causing it. Guess I will stick with MM for now.

I've been on Nougat for some time now (unlocked) and I have noticed any issues. What exactly is the problem?

djbutter said:
I've been on Nougat for some time now (unlocked) and I have noticed any issues. What exactly is the problem?
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Is your device US unlocked ? Do all your apps that auto sync or update do so while you're using battery saver, or while you're on data? Only way I can get gmail and other similarly syncing apps is on Wi-Fi without using battery saver

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eckharttim said:
Is your device US unlocked ? Do all your apps that auto sync or update do so while you're using battery saver, or while you're on data? Only way I can get gmail and other similarly syncing apps is on Wi-Fi without using battery saver
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i meant to say that I haven't noticed any issues, but clearly you understood me. ?
Anyway, I get push gmail notifications as usual, no issues there. I'm almost always only on mobile data, and rarely ever use battery saver. I have an unlocked stock US model.
The only minor issue I've noticed is that sometimes I don't get notified of whatsapp messages (via the notification shade), if multiple are received at around the same time.

The only bug i've found was in the Settings.
If you enter it, press back button and then try to enter again, it'll take some seconds to show up.
Everything else is ok.
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battery life and software update

Ok so does upgradimg to the new software kill the battery or not? I have a refurbished one with the previous spftware but it is lettimg me know the update is available. Should I update or stay on old software?
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scottmcclure619 said:
Ok so does upgradimg to the new software kill the battery or not? I have a refurbished one with the previous spftware but it is lettimg me know the update is available. Should I update or stay on old software?
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battery gives little bit less as compared to 4.1.2...... my device useually give screen on timr 8:30 hrs of web browsing on 3g(4.1.2) ..... but after 4.2.2 update it screen hardly gives 7:30-8:00 hrs avg... I recommend to stick with stock rom and wait for the kitkat update..
scottmcclure619 said:
Ok so does upgradimg to the new software kill the battery or not? I have a refurbished one with the previous spftware but it is lettimg me know the update is available. Should I update or stay on old software?
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Too many peeps don't realize the main issue with 4.2.2 is media. I get at least 8 hours just fine with daily use with 4.2.2 and WIFI enabled all the time, and use Spen 50/50. Of course power saving is enabled. I use Greenify and 360 Security, mostly because I have 200 apps and some are a bit of a memory hog. I use the stock touchwiz as many launchers are too buggy or become just as bloated as stock loaded apps for my own taste.
So far I have seen just about everything that could cause battery drain, and many point their fingers to 4.2.2 because they are too lazy to figure out what works well and what does not. Plus there are so many app updates that break functionality, no wonder Apple peeps are always a bit snobbish.
I have a few replies and a thread in the Q&A section. I have tried both custom ROM and prior release ROM. I am satisfied with 4.2.2 as it is very stable and works well for me.

Pre-Ordered

Hi All
I have just preordered my Find 7 via Amazon UK
d7nku said:
Hi All
I have just preordered my Find 7 via Amazon UK
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I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
nifear4 said:
I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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While it is slow, it's by no means a bad phone. Especially if you install a rom on it
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I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
d7nku said:
Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
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That's really up to your preference. I like what MaxxAudio adds, and the stock camera more than exceeded my expectations. Flashing to a stock rom would lose both of those things. A lot of people in the CM12 / nameless thread praise the battery life but I've been getting similar SOT/standby times on stock without having to worry about the random instability bugs that are still coming up (1-3% overnight usually, and otherwise idle is about 0.75% an hour according to GSM - longest i've stretched it to was 70 hours standby with 4.5 hours SOT from watching Gin no Saji). As pretty as Lollipop looks, I don't really feel like it would affect my daily usage of the phone.
So decide for yourself. Screen is great, i love watching my shows on here. Can easily get through a 25 minute episode of w/e show i'm watching with only 3-4% each with H/W+ decoding, the 10 bit videos that require S/W decoding suck up about 8-9%. A 29 minute youtube video drained 7% the other day (kingdom come deliverance update). Listening to music is great too, having an SD card slot is nice compared to a lot of other flagships right now. Play a lot of Phoenix Wright on drasticDS these days, phone never really gets hot or anything and drains pretty slowly considering you're running an emulator. Listening to my audiobook over bluetooth to a speaker sips about 1% an hour while I'm working out on rings.
For the price, I don't think you will be disappointed, I certainly wasn't. But if using a stock rom, or playing around with custom roms often is something you want to do then it might be better to look elsewhere.
d7nku said:
Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
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Absolutely not! IMO the phone is solid on it's own stock firmware. People here tend to believe if it ain't broke, fix it anyway. In a way the stock firmware out performs the custom roms at the moment because of the camera app, the Maxx audio, screen off gestures, the auto power on for an alarm. You can reasonably expect the software to update to Lolipop in March or so. I only just started messing around wit custom roms which leads me to the stock firmwares only downside In my opinion.
Oppo for some reason decided to limit the amount of storage available for apps. So forget about having both XCOM and Clash of clans on your phone at once. I am running Nameless Rom with unified storage so I'm happy now. But as soon as Lollipop ColorOS is released I'm going back to stock.
You made an excellent choice. There's talk of unified storage being in the next OTA update, so limited space for apps should be a thing of the past. If you're one of those Android obsessives desperately wanting lollipop then you will be disapointed with colorOS - they still haven't released OTA kitkat, let alone lollipop. But there are plenty of updated ROMs to manually flash. Personally, I'm perfectly content with my rooted colorOS - faultless, and who needs Viper when you've got MaxxAudio?

Lollipop update for Verizon Note 4???

Does anyone know anything about the Lollipop update for the Verizon Note 4? Every other device is getting it, and every other carrier is rolling out thd lollipop update for the Note 4.... WTF Verizon?????
It is very typical of Verizon to be the last one to release an android update
No one knows anything, its all a guess
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No one knows anything, its all a guess
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Its on its way. http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/benefits-note-4-4-2-15.pdf?null
If you want ROOT, you may want to hold off on the update until we can verify that we can downgrade to KK with no problems. A KK Root method is in the works and could be released this weekend.
I am downloading the first of 2 updates here in Des Moines Iowa now.
I got the notice also
I am also just installing update one of two. If interested, I will post results in a bit
All done and updated... [emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji4]
If root comes to this, cool.. But if not, oh well. I have lived without it this long on this device. And so far(typically it is choppy after an update), is running smooth on mine at least..
done
It says now version 5.0.1, which we were expecting but it really heated up my phone and sucked up half the battery so make sure you connect your charger and it is over 1gig so connect to wifi for the update. Im still playing around with it so I havent much to say about it yet...
This could just be me, but I was running the stock and I just updated to 5.0.1, and not my phone keeps crashing after 1-2 minutes. Even when I'm doing nothing it keeps crashing. Is anyone else having this issue??
Update is garbage.
Not a fan of Lollipop with Touchwizz.
good here!
Ive been playing around with it and it has been great since the update. no crashes or anything...
Loaded the update an hour or so ago and smooth sailing thus far. The handset was very warm during the update but cooled back to normal afterwards.
Liking the animation changes thus far. just making sure there have been no battery draining gremlins introduced.
Note 4 root
There is a possiblity of the retail note 4 root this weekend?

So, Umm... Should I Update?

Hello everyone.
As I'm sure many of you are, I'm caught in the boat of owning a VZW Note 4, loving it mostly, yet pining for the days of controlling my own hardware. As of right now, I'm on the very first 5.0.1 update... Waiting.
The version I'm on has terrible battery drain issues. Is it worth waiting at this version any longer?
I honestly don't want to root the device for features... I enjoy a lot of what's going on on this phone. I'm just convinced some of those Samsung processes running are watching something I do. I just want to control which processes run on my phone.
I'd just like to see what others have done / think. Thanks!
ieAnd said:
Hello everyone.
As I'm sure many of you are, I'm caught in the boat of owning a VZW Note 4, loving it mostly, yet pining for the days of controlling my own hardware. As of right now, I'm on the very first 5.0.1 update... Waiting.
The version I'm on has terrible battery drain issues. Is it worth waiting at this version any longer?
I honestly don't want to root the device for features... I enjoy a lot of what's going on on this phone. I'm just convinced some of those Samsung processes running are watching something I do. I just want to control which processes run on my phone.
I'd just like to see what others have done / think. Thanks!
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I'm thinking possibly new Nexus. I kind of give up. I love my Note but eff Samsung.
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My battery life is amazing. I also ran the debloater and blocked a ton of apps. The phone is a beast.
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@extensive What version are you on? 5.0.1? I'm not denying the phone is a beast, though I'm certain my battery life is terrible compared to the last 4.X.X version. If the debloater will help with that, I'm all about it!
Edit: and a follow up question... Does the debloater work with whatever the most recent version is? Thanks very much!
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I'm stock, I've taken all the updates. I get great battery life, but I also disable pretty much every Google and Verizon service on the phone because I don't use a single one with the exception of the play store. This phone has been out for a year now, the likelihood of permanent root coming is slim to none. Closer to none.
Most people keep a phone for 18 months to 2 years. I take each update gladly because at the end of the day, I'd rather enjoy using my phone than to hold off while it depreciates in value and reaches the end of it's lifespan. I'd hate to to see myself in March or April thinking, "Geeeeeeez, I'm still on Kit Kat but I know somebody is going to obtain permanent root any day now." LOL
Oh, and to be honest, you've got far more to worry about with Google watching what you do than with Samsung. The entire OS and all the services are built to watch what you do, Samsung just wants to cell you expensive phones, hence why the closer to the end of the lifespan, their phones start to get glitchier and slower, etc......... Then they can repeat the cycle. Been down that road three times with them.
ieAnd said:
@extensive What version are you on? 5.0.1? I'm not denying the phone is a beast, though I'm certain my battery life is terrible compared to the last 4.X.X version. If the debloater will help with that, I'm all about it!
Edit: and a follow up question... Does the debloater work with whatever the most recent version is? Thanks very much!
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Look at your build number. Are you on BOAF? I was on that, that's the version you're able to downgrade to 4.4.4, so I did so so I was able to temp root. I'd noticed terrible battery drain in comparison to 5.0.1 BOAF. I'd read that a FDR fixes that issue. There are other updates past BOAF, which I'm sure you're aware of, but are not downgradable, so you'd be stuck in 5.0.1 or above forever. If you did downgrade to 4.4.4, you can take the OTA no problem, and it'll set you back into 5.0.1 BOAF, I've done this a few times by just taking a chance.
In terms of the whole root situation, I'm not happy with the progress. KingRoot does root it, but I've always had problems with SuperSU-Me Pro, which is attributed to the write protection, I'm sure. I must have an app that interferes with it all, so maybe that's why it won't work correctly. That being said, I might just forget the whole thing and just go ahead and take the OTAs and kiss the thought of root goodbye. I really don't know why a root hasn't been found for our Verizon Note 4 on 5.0.1, even though root has been found on other 5.0.1 devices. Maybe it's because Verizon takes so damn long to release updates, such that they make sure vulnerabilities are patched, so people can't root their devices, which sucks.
I'm on the latest stock LP 5.0.1 and have used the debloater and my note 4s both get awesome battery life. They get the same if not better than when they were on KK 4.4.4. I will not be upgrading till these 2 note 4s die!
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Similar question, just got my phone which came with BOF1 installed. While waiting and watching for root - any advantage to staying on this version vs. any known disadvantage from taking the current update?
outcasted2003 said:
I'm on the latest stock LP 5.0.1 and have used the debloater and my note 4s both get awesome battery life. They get the same if not better than when they were on KK 4.4.4. I will not be upgrading till these 2 note 4s die!
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I am with you on that!!! No new phone til this N4 dies! :highfive:

new ota update available npn25. 137-67-5

August security patch... In India
Via updateslab.com
yes. updated
received hour ago.
nearly 58mb
and here is Release notes--
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https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/122884
Enhancement to audio , like what? Increase or decrease. Anyone noticed any difference?
pranjal24 said:
Enhancement to audio , like what? Increase or decrease. Anyone noticed any difference?
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There's a considerable boost in audio level imo ... ?
Got the update and I feel a boost in audio too...
Scarecrow. said:
Got the update and I feel a boost in audio too...
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Audio boost during a call, in-call volume?
In call volume as well as audio playback. In call volume boost was very evident to me. Audio playback I think it's better than previous. ?
I did not received it yet feels bad man
I felt no change in audio:angel:
can this update be installed on rooted stock rom?
I think my network reception has gone bad after the update. I don't know for sure as it could be my network and I have already registered a complaint with them.
Anyone else having bad network reception after the August update?
Hey,
Is anyone having this weird problem where you have to plug in the cable twice into the phone to charge, cause first time it shows "CHARGING OVER USB"...and on the second try it's TURBOCHARGING..
After the August update... ??
What a useless update, they should have included October security patch
vinurocks13 said:
can this update be installed on rooted stock rom?
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yeah can someone make twrp flashable zip for it?
Fir3lordZuk0 said:
What a useless update, they should have included October security patch
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The October patches were not released until 4 days before this update was released.
No way they incorporated and tested a new build in 4 days.
If they just released the August patches, that's ~60 days to incorporate and test the changes.
Just be happy you got that. Some of us are still several months farther back.
If you want fast updates, unlock the bootloader and run a custom ROM that gets more frequent updates. (That was one of the reasons I chose this phone, but I have needed to do it yet)
ST Dog said:
The October patches were not released until 4 days before this update was released.
No way they incorporated and tested a new build in 4 days.
If they just released the August patches, that's ~60 days to incorporate and test the changes.
Just be happy you got that. Some of us are still several months farther back.
If you want fast updates, unlock the bootloader and run a custom ROM that gets more frequent updates. (That was one of the reasons I chose this phone, but I have needed to do it yet)
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Moto is no longer same now. Even Sony has started rolling Oreo for XZ series, our device is still struggling with Nougat.
And I have 4 Moto (2 are already rooted and on custom rom) only with hope of faster updates, but all that hope is lost now.
Fir3lordZuk0 said:
And I have 4 Moto (2 are already rooted and on custom rom) only with hope of faster updates, but all that hope is lost now.
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Since LOS 15 is testing I've not lost hope.
Still, I wouldn't​ complain too much about 60 days for a security patch. I think we wil see stock O before the year is done.
Then again, I still run KK on my phone (the Moto G5+ is my wife's).
Not received any update
What I have not received update since I bought new g5+ received today only but not any update. This phone is manufactured of 07/17
August build stock firmware for xt1686 (retin)
Can anyone give a link to download to August build full stock firmware thnk u.

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