bad batch of wifi cards or software bug? - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

so im using an unlocked verizon pixel XL and having wifi problem after wifi problem all of the sudden not sure if its the rom im using (pure nexus) or a verizon thing i really need help, my throughput is fine but my latency is horrible and i have no explanation for it. ive tried everythign, safe mode, clear cache, changing wifi channel, and nothing seems to be working, on both bad performance (ping) on both 2.4ghz and 5ghz. For example i speedtest when im having a latency problem my ping is always 45ms which shouldnt be a huge deal but something isnt working because when i go to play my online game the indicator is always orange with tremendous ping. im using a 5268ac att dual band gateway by the way and have tried with aftermarket routers as well with no success. When my wifi is working properly my ping is around 25ms, and thats standing right next to the router, literally...This is a brand new phone wtf

Is this happening on all wifi hotspots or just one?

TonikJDK said:
Is this happening on all wifi hotspots or just one?
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I havent been anywhere else to test it but i will today but i HAVE swapped out my router with several others and had it still happening, i really hope its not a bad pixel XL because i really dont wanna RMA my brand new unlocked one and end up getting a verizon one thats unrootable and not unlockable

Did a complete clean wipe of phone and manual fastboot update of radio etc to nmf26u (im on verizon pixel xl unlocked) and then purenexus and now wifi is working like a charm, i have no idea what happened or bugged out in my initial updates and flash but the phone is working like a dream now, pure nexus 7.1.1 with elemental x kernel

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JB 4.1.x wifi range/signal (GSM GNex)

Hi,
I've been using JB since the version from io12 was out. Currently I use Bigxie's deodexed 4.1.1 and all is wonderful. Except one thing that is. The wifi signal is weaker than I'm used to from ICS. Especially the wifi range seems worse. Connections that I've used with ICS are now out of range. Some of my friend or family's connections are now very weak and I drop out of range very often. This goes for any JB rom/kernel I've tried.
I've tried several roms, trinity and franco kernels, dirty flashing, full wipe. I've even tried a couple of different basebands, even though I don't think they affect wifi.
So I'm wondering if other GSM GNex users are experiencing the same thing? I've seen a thread with a flashable "poor wifi fix" for the Verizon GNex, but nothing for the GSM version.
Verizon GNex wifi/gps fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739097
Any suggestions? Coukd a similar solution like the Verizon fix help?
Best regards,
P
Ok, allow me to explain whats going on with the "fix".
There were some folks who ported the GSM version to Verizon (myself included). However, they failed to use the correct wifi/BT firmware (I did but thats besides the point). They left in the GSM version. So that above fix is merely the bcm4330.hcd firmware and bcmhd.cal calibration file for wifi/BT from 4.0.4 for Verizon. It is not meant to be used for GSM and only applies to those who ported GSM to CDMA. Even with the fix, wifi is weak.
Verizon users currently have a newer version now, specifically for them from Google. However, the weak wifi issue still exists even for us. There are some who have strong wifi routers or are always close to them that do not see the issue, but it does exist for every JB user. Wifi is simply weaker, and BT is fairly janky.
It is a Jellybean specific problem, and I am assuming it will be fixed in time. You could try a 4.0.4 bcm4330.hcd, bcmhd.cal on Jellybean, but I doubt it will help, and it could end up hurting. I am thinking that broadcomm needs to fix these files.
Thanks for the reply and the precise info about the problem and the background for the Verizon fix. Very much appreciated.
I guess I'll have to wait and hope for an update.
volapyk said:
Thanks for the reply and the precise info about the problem and the background for the Verizon fix. Very much appreciated.
I guess I'll have to wait and hope for an update.
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I am right there with you.
Wifi is horrible!
WiFi does kind of blow chunks. WTF.
burhanistan said:
WiFi does kind of blow chunks. WTF.
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The more I think about it, the more I think it can probably be resolved by tweaking the calibration file. However that is a bit beyond my abilities as I don't understand whats contained in it to know what it needs tweaking to.
wifi weakness
I'm not sure why it does this but when I am in my house about 15 feet away from my router I would notice my wifi signal dropping down to 2 bars where my other phone would stay at full strength until I got around 15 yards away.. I decided to see how far I could get away from my router before completely losing signal. I walked a total of about of 30 yards from my router to the edge of my street and stopped every time the signal decreased down to one bar(which was between every 5 or 10 yards)... every time I thought the signal was about to drop out it would return back up to 3 bars after a moment of adjusting. Once I got to my furthest point it dropped out completely and then came back to 1 bar. When I came back inside where I previously had 2 bars I then had full signal throughout the house. I tested this a couple times and it seems that it only uses what it needs. If someone could do a similar experiment to confirm this isn't specific to my router set up I would appreciate it. I also did not notice any drop off in performance in speed from 1 bar to full signal while I was within 20 yards of my router, however, I didn't run a speed test, I just used my youtube app to load a video... I will run some speed test when I get home this evening to get a solid figure on the speed difference. This may not be a bug but a feature to conserve energy to increase battery life.
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I'm not sure why it does this but when I am in my house about 15 feet away from my router I would notice my wifi signal dropping down to 2 bars where my other phone would stay at full strength until I got around 15 yards away.. I decided to see how far I could get away from my router before completely losing signal. I walked a total of about of 30 yards from my router to the edge of my street and stopped every time the signal decreased down to one bar(which was between every 5 or 10 yards)... every time I thought the signal was about to drop out it would return back up to 3 bars after a moment of adjusting. Once I got to my furthest point it dropped out completely and then came back to 1 bar. When I came back inside where I previously had 2 bars I then had full signal throughout the house. I tested this a couple times and it seems that it only uses what it needs. If someone could do a similar experiment to confirm this isn't specific to my router set up I would appreciate it. I also did not notice any drop off in performance in speed from 1 bar to full signal while I was within 20 yards of my router, however, I didn't run a speed test, I just used my youtube app to load a video... I will run some speed test when I get home this evening to get a solid figure on the speed difference. This may not be a bug but a feature to conserve energy to increase battery life.
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A good theory, but I am dropping wifi in some of my rooms. Switching to and fro like that doesn't save power
didnt people have poor performance with their wifi signal on ics? did broadcom leave everything the same of did they change/update drivers for our phones with jb.
adrynalyne said:
A good theory, but I am dropping wifi in some of my rooms. Switching to and fro like that doesn't save power
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Me too, I only need to move to the next room or so sometimes. The main problem for me is range. The range for me was better with 4.0.x.
slimb9 said:
didnt people have poor performance with their wifi signal on ics? did broadcom leave everything the same of did they change/update drivers for our phones with jb.
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ICS wifi performance on the GNex wasn't exactly perfect for me, but it was better than what I get with JB. My router at home is giving me an okay performance and range, but the routers I normally connect to at family and friends are giving me problems since I moved on to JB.
I believe JB does come with new drivers. At least I've read that it does, in other threads.
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didnt people have poor performance with their wifi signal on ics? did broadcom leave everything the same of did they change/update drivers for our phones with jb.
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I had better performance on ICS with WiFi.
adrynalyne said:
I had better performance on ICS with WiFi.
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Same
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Wi-Fi has been fine for me, but only when using 2.4GHz—5GHz, on the other hand, is horribly broken. If you are using 5GHz, I recommend trying 2.4GHz instead—hopefully Google will have this sorted before the Galaxy Nexus II ships.
you may want to revert back to ICS to verify if the phone hardware is not a problem? otherwise for me I have used both... ICS and JB, and I don't find any difference..
ibraheeemz said:
you may want to revert back to ICS to verify if the phone hardware is not a problem? otherwise for me I have used both... ICS and JB, and I don't find any difference..
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I’ve found 5GHz to be broken on both ICS and JB and this is with more than one phone.
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Wi-Fi has been fine for me, but only when using 2.4GHz—5GHz, on the other hand, is horribly broken. If you are using 5GHz, I recommend trying 2.4GHz instead—hopefully Google will have this sorted before the Galaxy Nexus II ships.
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I'll try 2.4.
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I’ve found 5GHz to be broken on both ICS and JB and this is with more than one phone.
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5 Ghz was fine for me on ICS. It works on JB too, but the range...ugh.
I'm pretty sure it's not hardware related. It's definitely related to JB. It's not a 5 GHz problem either, that's what I use at home on my d-link. Family and friends have both 5 and 2.4 GHz. I'm sure it depends on the quality of the routers also but I didn't have any real range problems with any of them before JB.
adrynalyne said:
5 Ghz was fine for me on ICS. It works on JB too, but the range...ugh.
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Same here, except my d-link at home, which is kinda okay at 5 GHz.
volapyk said:
I'm pretty sure it's not hardware related. It's definitely related to JB. It's not a 5 GHz problem either, that's what I use at home on my d-link. Family and friends have both 5 and 2.4 GHz. I'm sure it depends on the quality of the routers also but I didn't have any real range problems with any of them before JB.
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2.4 is pretty weak for me too.
I looked at the calibration file from ICS to JB. I don't think the difference warrants the problems seen.
From ICS to JB, these are the changes:
# 2.4G ACR
rxgaintbl100=1
# 5GHz Starting Tx Gain Index
initxidx5g=96

Is something wrong with my WiFi?

The other day me and two of my friends were conducting a lil experiment to see which phone had the best wifi download speed using the speedtest.net app, one has the iphone 5 and the other a year old sony xperia phone. We all connected on the same router and when conducting the test they ended up having speeds of 32mbps!! While my phone only managed a measly 15mbps..feeling slighly embarrassed after bragging to them about how my phone is so much better then theirs we did the test again just to make sure it wasnt a fluke thing but nope we got the same results. My question is..is something wrong with my wifi..i mean ive never had a situation where its disconnected but ive noticed that the wifi icon does fluctuate from having full bars to no bars quite alot even if im right next to the router but i havent noticed the performance drop..im just baffled as to how such a amazing phone got beaten by the iphone and a phone thats older then mine with download speeds.
DharmzVala said:
The other day me and two of my friends were conducting a lil experiment to see which phone had the best wifi download speed using the speedtest.net app, one has the iphone 5 and the other a year old sony xperia phone. We all connected on the same router and when conducting the test they ended up having speeds of 32mbps!! While my phone only managed a measly 15mbps..feeling slighly embarrassed after bragging to them about how my phone is so much better then theirs we did the test again just to make sure it wasnt a fluke thing but nope we got the same results. My question is..is something wrong with my wifi..i mean ive never had a situation where its disconnected but ive noticed that the wifi icon does fluctuate from having full bars to no bars quite alot even if im right next to the router but i havent noticed the performance drop..im just baffled as to how such a amazing phone got beaten by the iphone and a phone thats older then mine with download speeds.
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It looks like you have the dreaded Wifi problem. The fluctuation sounds all too familiar to me. Read the topic about this problem in the General section.
Don't worry man.
Forget the wifi issues cause by hardware, it is very rarely and is is very unlucky cases (other comes from user's mind)
For your matter, I have to face the same situation and in my case, I found that the issues comes from channel of the router. Normally, wifi router has many channel could be set with different frequency:
1- 2412 GHz
2- 2417
3- 2422
4- 2427
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11- 2462
12 - 2467
13 - 2472
14 - 2477 GHz
The HOX work best in Wifi mode G / Channel 14 as I could easily got 54Mb/s. You could try again with other setup of router. Install wifi analyzer app from market and it could help you to find best channel for your HOX.
(remember to update your phone with latest ship rom).

WiFi ridiculous slow now

Suddenly in the last 4 days or so my WiFi on the 5X is incredibly slow. Say if you're downloading an update on the play store or loading a Web page, it will just sit there and try to load. If you give it long enough it will eventually load. It doesn't do this all of the time but seems to be getting worse. I can cut WiFi off and it loads great on lte. My Nexus 6 does fine on WiFi. Anyone else having this problem?
Same here sometimes it works fine and other times it hangs up nexus 5 works fine
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Reboot router or try forcing 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz in the device's settings.
bblzd said:
Reboot router or try forcing 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz in the device's settings.
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Thanks for the info but should I really have to do that just to get it to work properly? Everything else from my computer to my other phone's work great.
alnova1 said:
Thanks for the info but should I really have to do that just to get it to work properly? Everything else from my computer to my other phone's work great.
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WiFi issues are common with any device, you could find similar threads in every device forum on XDA. Each home network is different with unique routers, different settings, etc. Basic WiFi troubleshooting steps are the best place to start.
Knowing your WiFi is working is a good start but there's probably a setting or incompatibility somewhere causing the slow downs.
Just an FYI for anyone else that might have this problem. I tried everything and no luck. Google is sending me a replacement.
Hi,
I just recently ditched my galaxy s3 bcoz of the lag, seems like it's better than my new nexus 5x in terms of wifi.
An app from the play store downloaded faster on my s3 than it did on my N 5x.
Out of the box, my 5X was painfully slow on WiFi. Called Google. Tried the usual cast of 'fixes' with no improvement. Google is sending a replacement, but based on my experience with the Nexus 4 (they still haven't fixed the 4's WiFi issues) I am not hopeful. My Nexus 5 works extremely well, so may just keep it for another year or two.
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Out of the box, my 5X was painfully slow on WiFi. Called Google. Tried the usual cast of 'fixes' with no improvement. Google is sending a replacement, but based on my experience with the Nexus 4 (they still haven't fixed the 4's WiFi issues) I am not hopeful. My Nexus 5 works extremely well, so may just keep it for another year or two.
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I'm kinda feeling the same way.
Tried forcing the device to 2.4ghz or 5ghz in its WiFi settings?
In the WiFi's advanced menu you can force either 2.4 or 5 ghz. Just tested on mine. 5 ghz got the expected ~20 ms ping with 60 mb download speed. And 2.4 ghz got 600 ms ping with 0.1 mb download. Might be interference here at work because there are 15 Bluetooth devices here. Will have to confirm when I get home.
I tried forcing the various ghz, just made wifi not work at all. My download speeds seem fine but I'm getting virtually no upload speeds. Had a 6P I was trying out and it worked fine.
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I'm kinda feeling the same way.
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Got the replacement 5X today. WiFi speeds are slightly better, but still grossly unacceptable, as compared to the Nexus 5. Got another RMA and decided there's no 5X in my future. Sticking with the 5.
jackdubl said:
I tried forcing the various ghz, just made wifi not work at all. My download speeds seem fine but I'm getting virtually no upload speeds. Had a 6P I was trying out and it worked fine.
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One of them (2.4Ghz or 5Ghz) may not work if the WiFi network doesn't support that frequency. For instance my aging Wireless G network only supports 2.4Ghz and if I set it to auto I may experience strange WiFi issues, if I set it to 5Ghz it won't work at all.
One of them has to work though or you'd never get any WiFi signal.
dxreed said:
Got the replacement 5X today. WiFi speeds are slightly better, but still grossly unacceptable, as compared to the Nexus 5. Got another RMA and decided there's no 5X in my future. Sticking with the 5.
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That's too bad, WiFi on this phone is twice as fast as the N5. Dual MIMO antennas and double the maximum theoretical bandwidth compared to the N5.
bblzd said:
That's too bad, WiFi on this phone is twice as fast as the N5. Dual MIMO antennas and double the maximum theoretical bandwidth compared to the N5.
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Perhaps I should try another router before giving up on the 5X. I haven't had any issues with the Linksys E4200v2 but one never knows. I'll enable WiFi on the brand-new cable modem and see if it's any better.
Just reviving this thread to see if anyone reached resolution.
I'm seeing consistent 4-6 Mbps downloads on an older 2.5 mixed router. On uploads I see in the 15 Mbps range. Every now and then I'll see downloads in the 20-30 Mbps range.
My laptop on the same router at the same time consistently maxes out at 30 Mbps downloads.
I had identical problems with two 5X's, intermittent & slow wifi, on 2.4G (I don't have a 5G router yet.) My previous Nexus 4's and all other devices worked fine.
BUT, when I upgraded my wireless AP's firmware (it was fairly old) and changed from 40Mhz to 20Mhz band (there is a lot of 2.4G interference in my area) the problems went away completely and it's been solid. I've heard similar stories in other threads about 5X wifi being fixed by router updates.
So try changing to 20Mhz band if you're on 40 now (on 2.4Ghz). Also upgrade your router firmware if it's older.
I'm not making excuses for the phone not working well in this scenario, just saying it made a tremendous difference for me. I wish I had any idea what 'fix' might have been in the firmware updates, but it was like 2+ years worth I skipped over, and it's not documented well. My AP is a Ubiquiti UAP, if anyone has similar.
So I would say to anyone having issues, it's very unlikely your actual phone is bad, but there may be some incompatibility especially with older wifi routers/AP.
Thanks. Tried setting the channel width to 20 mhz w/ no impact. Tried shifting the channel to a less used on and still seeing the same ~4 Mbps download and 11 Mbps upload. I don't get why the download is less than the upload. I had similar issues with a newer router so not sure that's it either...
I saw the exact same, where upload was erratic but generally much faster than download. Unfortunately it's probably not 'new' vs 'old' routers, just some certain feature/algorithm/behavior. Even though it works now for me at home, I have no doubt I'll run into lots of places where I'm on some other wifi and it will degrade horribly again. So although it may be 'solvable', I still consider this a pretty significant issue with the 5X, since most places you have no control over the router.
.... and after about 2 days of good behavior, my 5X is stuck at ~2.75 down, 22 up. So flashing the router only worked temporarily.
It definitely looks like something with backward compatibility with older routers. Nice new 5 ghz router at work and hitting 55 Mbps download speeds. Similar uploads as with my home router. Waiting on a new wireless mesh system for home, so guess I have to deal with it until they ship in Feb.....

Unlocked bootloader delay, wifi reception and Nougat

My Pixel C is due to be delivered in the next couple of hours and I have a few questions for you seasoned owners:
Is it worth unlocking the bootloader given the 30 second delay and any problems this might cause getting Nougat?
Just how bad is wifi for you now? (This could be a major issue for me as I use my Nexus 10 in my garden at the absolute limit of coverage.)
And does the latest (final) developer preview make for a decent daily driver?
Thanks in advance.
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My Pixel C is due to be delivered in the next couple of hours and I have a few questions for you seasoned owners:
Is it worth unlocking the bootloader given the 30 second delay and any problems this might cause getting Nougat?
Just how bad is wifi for you now? (This could be a major issue for me as I use my Nexus 10 in my garden at the absolute limit of coverage.)
And does the latest (final) developer preview make for a decent daily driver?
Thanks in advance.
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DP5 is very stable and worth the change. I have not unlocked my bootloader due to the delay.
The WiFi is bad. Really bad in my opinion
The bootloader delay is annoying if you restart your tablet a lot, but why should you do? So if you are not shutting down your device at night or every time you dont need it, it should be fine.
The 30-second delay is trivial (to me.) I think it's an odd and intrusive choice, but it's never been a big deal.
I've never had any trouble with the wifi, although it sounds like the mileage varies. I don't usually care how many bars there are as long as it's not dropping off.
So far, I'm very impressed. I've tested the WiFi and, although the speed drops off, the range is really good, probably better than my Nexus 10.
I'm not going to unlock the bootloader, so far I see no reason to.
Nougat is great, zero issues.
2 apps won't work and one screams on loading, but that's about par when moving between devices.
It looks and feels like a really premium device, in real terms it costs the same as my Nexus 10 did at the time but this comes with a keyboard!
I just got my replacement and the latest build of Nougat is awesome, I've been using it as my DD without issue. I can't attest to the wifi because my apartment is small and my neighborhood is crowded.
My main problem is transferring files and getting ADB to recognise the device - I've had both working and now neither is, which is really puzzling and frustrating!
WiFi is bad on mine, on the latest N preview. It picks up my WiFi, but the speed drops from 36mb to anywhere between 2 and 10
This is with the router in the next room
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WiFi is bad on mine, on the latest N preview. It picks up my WiFi, but the speed drops from 36mb to anywhere between 2 and 10
This is with the router in the next room
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The wifi has been driving me crazy, frequent drop outs, massive speed drops over distance - I'm returning it; which is really frustrating as everything else about it feels so premium, but to release a device they know is so badly flawed and still charge so much for it?!
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My main problem is transferring files and getting ADB to recognise the device - I've had both working and now neither is, which is really puzzling and frustrating!
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If you're using Windows, check device manager and make sure the drivers are installed.
if you're thrilled about the device (like i do) file an RMA with google and they'll send you a refurb but updated Pixel C (serial# should start with 620xxx). I assumed that those with horrific wifi or screen problem probably has one with a serial number beginning with 5A or 5B. Check this thread to see if the one you have is cursed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/mapping-problems-to-serial-t3274660
Got my replacement yesterday and so far wifi has significantly improved. When im in the backyard, i noticed that wifi would disconnect about every 10-15min but with the new serial#620, wifi strength is about the same but I have not experience any disconnect around the same place. Hopefully the screen issue hold up on this one as well...
As for bootloader, I have a rooted phone with unlocked bootloader as my main so I'd keep the Pixel C completely stock. I havent found a need to do anything to it yet.
I've had my pixel c since it was released. Don't have any issue with it on wifi... this includes using it throughout a 2500 sqft house that is old construction (lots of natural signal blockers) and in back or front yard. It works about as well as an iPad does in the same environment, perhaps a little slower max speed at the more distant range, but no drop-outs and fast enough to handle HD streaming at the same distances.
For an android tablet I'd still consider it the best that is out there, although the nvidia shield is a cheaper option.
My serial number is 5A22000040. I bought mine in May and have not experienced any of the problems I read here. No screen tints or light leaks. My WiFi has never been an issue. I have run SpeedTest several times and the Pixel does the same as other WiFi devices I have.
I do get a screen blink out every now and again (more than a flicker) but I only seem to notice it when playing Spider Solitaire so I think it is application dependent. Otherwise, this tablet is smoking.
And for a bonus, I through my tablet into my Harley saddlebag (inside a Glock hand bag) and have ridden for days, using the tablet for nightly movie entertainment. I would say I stress it pretty well.
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I sent mine back as the wifi issues made it too annoying to use, the money was refunded as soon as UPS collected the packages - suggesting Google knew my machine was a dodgy one?

Android 10 Signal Strength

Didn't see a thread covering this, so I figured I'd start one.
One issue that has plagued my Pixel 2XL is severely diminished LTE signal strength on Android 10. I first encountered this on beta 5, and again on beta 6. My signal dbm's were 10-15 less than on Pie, and the signal indicator was rarely, if ever, above 1 bar. My signal would fluctuate wildly based on location, and would rarely hold steady. Speed tests confirmed things. Extremely frustrating. It was such a problem that I eventually opted out of the beta program and rolled back to Pie before the official release of Android 10. Since then my signal strength has returned to normal and been steady and solid. I have not updated to official Android 10 yet, and keep hoping that this issue will be resolved through a monthly security patch. So far, from what I have been able to gather, this issue has not been fixed. There are several different threads covering this issue, as well as official issue tracker threads with Google:
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13566467?hl=en
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/141578664#comment86
https://forums.androidcentral.com/g...237-low-signal-quality-after-10-update-2.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...el_3_weak_signal_on_verizon_after_android_10/
I am having this issue on my 2XL, on AT&T, however this issue persists across devices and carriers, and doesn't seem to discriminate. As with most things though, there are plenty of folks who say they are not effected by this in the least.
So my question here is this:
Has anyone noticed a decrease in signal strength on Android 10 on the Pixel 2XL?
LTE? 3G? WiFi?
Fluctuating signal? Dropped calls? Poor data speeds?
I'd really love to update to 10, and the latest December patch, but am extremely hesitant to do so, based on what I have personally experienced and read in the above threads.
Any input, opinions, personal anecdotes are welcome. Thanks in advance.
I haven't had any issues with LTE signal as you described, but I have had problems with WiFi signal regularly dropping. After some research, I found that the issue was with Android and my router which puts out a 5ghz and 2.4ghz signal - Android 10 would drop the signal when switching between the two. My solution for home was to turn off the 5ghz channel on my router and my issues with WiFi went away.
I don't use WiFi away from home frequently enough to see if this signal issue has persisted on other connections, hoping for a fix in the December security patch.
I am running Android 10, rooted with Magisk. Clean installed about two weeks ago and the issue was apparent from the get-go. Never had anything like this in Pie.
I can't say for sure on the LTE side as I never checked numbers prior to updating to A10B5, however signal strength barely shows on the indicator. Tower is 4 blocks away. My wifi is terrible and there appear many variations across Pixels. No solutions here but appears to be a widespread problem. FYI.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13670154?hl=en
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/android-10-broke-wifi-t3965367
gbarayah said:
I haven't had any issues with LTE signal as you described, but I have had problems with WiFi signal regularly dropping. After some research, I found that the issue was with Android and my router which puts out a 5ghz and 2.4ghz signal - Android 10 would drop the signal when switching between the two. My solution for home was to turn off the 5ghz channel on my router and my issues with WiFi went away.
I don't use WiFi away from home frequently enough to see if this signal issue has persisted on other connections, hoping for a fix in the December security patch.
I am running Android 10, rooted with Magisk. Clean installed about two weeks ago and the issue was apparent from the get-go. Never had anything like this in Pie.
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UPDATE:
Last night, I received and flashed the OTA update. I went into my home route and turned on the 5ghz channel again and the WiFi issue immediately returned for me. So, sadly no fix in the December patch and at least in my experience, this is limited to 5ghz connections. For now, I've reverted by home WiFi back to 2.4ghz and it's working fine.
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UPDATE:
Last night, I received and flashed the OTA update. I went into my home route and turned on the 5ghz channel again and the WiFi issue immediately returned for me. So, sadly no fix in the December patch and at least in my experience, this is limited to 5ghz connections. For now, I've reverted by home WiFi back to 2.4ghz and it's working fine.
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Thanks for the update on the WiFi side of things. Sucks that that hasn't been fixed yet, after months of it being a known issue.
Just out of curiosity, how is your LTE signal strength on the December update? Dbm's and signal bars appear to be normal? Any dropped calls or slower than usual data speeds?
The WiFi issue sucks, but at least it can be worked around for now. There is no substituting for poor signal and connectivity though, and that is still a deal breaker for me moving forward.
Thanks in advance for any input, I appreciate it.
slider112 said:
Thanks for the update on the WiFi side of things. Sucks that that hasn't been fixed yet, after months of it being a known issue.
Just out of curiosity, how is your LTE signal strength on the December update? Dbm's and signal bars appear to be normal? Any dropped calls or slower than usual data speeds?
The WiFi issue sucks, but at least it can be worked around for now. There is no substituting for poor signal and connectivity though, and that is still a deal breaker for me moving forward.
Thanks in advance for any input, I appreciate it.
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If there has been a change with my LTE signal strength, I certainly don't notice it. I haven't had any dropped calls or slow data speeds.
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If there has been a change with my LTE signal strength, I certainly don't notice it. I haven't had any dropped calls or slow data speeds.
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Thanks, good to know. Not to beat a dead horse here, but in general, do you notice less signal bars on 10 than previously on Pie? On the betas, I rarely showed more than 1 bar at any given time, and dbm's were less across the board as well. Frustrating. I realize bars don't mean everything, obviously, and the only way to truly measure signal strength is by looking at the actual dbm's. Maybe something in the Android 10 code changed the way signal bars are calculated relative to dbm's?
slider112 said:
Thanks, good to know. Not to beat a dead horse here, but in general, do you notice less signal bars on 10 than previously on Pie? On the betas, I rarely showed more than 1 bar at any given time, and dbm's were less across the board as well. Frustrating. I realize bars don't mean everything, obviously, and the only way to truly measure signal strength is by looking at the actual dbm's. Maybe something in the Android 10 code changed the way signal bars are calculated relative to dbm's?
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No, I haven't noticed a change in bars or dbm's since the update. I live in the city and so my service signal has always been strong - no change since upgrading to 10. I should note that I didn't update to 10 until about a week or so ago and when I did, I did a clean flash and then rooted with Magisk. I have since updated to the December security patch, again with no change to my cellular signal.
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No, I haven't noticed a change in bars or dbm's since the update. I live in the city and so my service signal has always been strong - no change since upgrading to 10. I should note that I didn't update to 10 until about a week or so ago and when I did, I did a clean flash and then rooted with Magisk. I have since updated to the December security patch, again with no change to my cellular signal.
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Thanks, appreciate the responses. It's actually good to hear that things are normal on your end. Sometimes it's easy to get caught up in the complaints, and in the process not hear about those who have no issues at all. So strange how this bug seems to randomly effect people, across carriers and various Pixel devices. Some are majorly effected, some not at all. Would love to update, but it's a roll of the dice that I'm not sure I'm willing to take.
I’m wondering, why can’t/don’t you merely update to 10, try it out and see how things go for about a week, and if it’s not a good experience for you, merely roll-back using the Full Factory Pie/9 image?
In any case, I am under Verizon and haven’t noticed any lowering of network signal or performance. I do experience some need to re-initialize the wifi – but, to be fair, I had that issue in Pie – but maybe not as frequent.
Either way, many/most have a good enough positive experience that it’s simply at least worth a try; at least on a temporary basis. But, again either way, good luck and hope this helps…
simplepinoi177 said:
I’m wondering, why can’t/don’t you merely update to 10, try it out and see how things go for about a week, and if it’s not a good experience for you, merely roll-back using the Full Factory Pie/9 image?
In any case, I am under Verizon and haven’t noticed any lowering of network signal or performance. I do experience some need to re-initialize the wifi – but, to be fair, I had that issue in Pie – but maybe not as frequent.
Either way, many/most have a good enough positive experience that it’s simply at least worth a try; at least on a temporary basis. But, again either way, good luck and hope this helps…
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Thanks for the response, I appreciate it. I am probably one of the few Pixel owners out there who are still running completely stock and unrooted, and I also never bothered to unlock the bootloader. So needless to say, having the ability/option to flash back to the factory image for PIe, should things go sideways, would take some work. I'll probably update at some point, but I have had literally zero issues on PIe. It runs flawlessly for me, and always has, so the thought of introducing potential problems makes me a bit hesitant. Just wanted to try to see how widespread this signal issue was., that's all.

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