Worth upgrading PX3 RK3188 1gb Ram to PX5 RK3368 2gb Ram? Please Discuss. - MTCD Android Head Units General

Hi all,
Purchased an Xtrons MTCD System back in September,
Android 5.1.1
1024x600
16gb ROM
1gb RAM
PX3 RK3188 4x1.6ghz
Mali 400mp
Looking at purchasing a newer version now offered
Android 6.0.1
1024x600
32gb ROM
2gb RAM
PX5 RK3368 8x1.5ghz.
PowerVR G6110
I currently have a lot of stutter when switching apps or opening iGO navigation while Spotify is open.
Also the cold boot time annoys me.
I can purchase the new version & sell mine off for minimum loss.
Is the RK3368 OctaCore & 2gb RAM a definite upgrade?
I need advice as I'll be purchasing it at the end of this week, which means I need to advertise my current one ASAP.
Cheers
Mat

From what I've read it's the best upgrade available right now. 2gb ram is probably the biggest thing, and according to the benchmarks, the PX5 is the fastest CPU available right now in these types of units. Some people like the Intel CPU, and claim that despite having lower benchmarks it may be as fast as the PX5 - but I'm pretty skeptical. Just the upgrade to 2gb Ram will make a slower CPU seem faster. Without a side by side it's impossible to know. Either way, I will be upgrading my quad core 3188 to a PX5 as soon as I am able and one becomes available for my car.

Techrev said:
From what I've read it's the best upgrade available right now. 2gb ram is probably the biggest thing, and according to the benchmarks, the PX5 is the fastest CPU available right now in these types of units. Some people like the Intel CPU, and claim that despite having lower benchmarks it may be as fast as the PX5 - but I'm pretty skeptical. Just the upgrade to 2gb Ram will make a slower CPU seem faster. Without a side by side it's impossible to know. Either way, I will be upgrading my quad core 3188 to a PX5 as soon as I am able and one becomes available for my car.
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Thanks for the fast reply. If I get a couple more positive comments from others I'll be ordering my new one Thursday, DHL Shipping. I can post a comparison of the 2 units side by side by next weekend if everything works out well from boot times to launching the same apps etc.
Cheers
Mat
Edit: I purchased the new unit. Have organised sale of my current unit. Will hopefully get a quick comparison video next week between the two opening specific apps and comparing run times etc.

Can you post a link with the px5 unit?
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ikerg said:
Can you post a link with the px5 unit?
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It is a vehicle specific unit to suit E39 BMW.
http://xtrons.com/pb7639bap-7-hd-di...vd-player-custom-fit-for-bmw-5-series-x5.html

FauxDreams said:
It is a vehicle specific unit to suit E39 BMW.
http://xtrons.com/pb7639bap-7-hd-di...vd-player-custom-fit-for-bmw-5-series-x5.html
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Hello,
So you bought it ?
May I have your opinion about it ?
What was your installation before ? I currently have an OEM 16/9 Nav System.
my biggest concern is the settings like Clock/Fuel consumtion etc... Everything is set from the nav unit, how will it work with the Android system ?
Thank you

FauxDreams said:
It is a vehicle specific unit to suit E39 BMW.
http://xtrons.com/pb7639bap-7-hd-di...vd-player-custom-fit-for-bmw-5-series-x5.html
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Also interested, I'm about to order a Xtrons PB86MTVAP (specific for VAG-group, 2gb RAM, PX5, 8").

corpcd said:
Also interested, I'm about to order a Xtrons PB86MTVAP (specific for VAG-group, 2gb RAM, PX5, 8").
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Go for it mate, nice look alike one too, btw.. is it gonna take place of the oem rns 510 radio one.. right?
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Hello. Where can i buy android board on mtcd? Can anybody help me?

witson responds me by email this
"hello
android 6.0 board+post shiping cost is USD105
Bob/WITSON"
Greetings.

Will these boards work in an mtcc unit or just for px3 mtcd?

pcmender2005 said:
Will these boards work in an mtcc unit or just for px3 mtcd?
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Even working...only are supported mtcd
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Because I got my hands on a px5 board I wanne sell my Daisita (hotaudio) px3 board wich is upgraded to 2GB ram out of the previous groupbuy.
pm if interested

Hi. I have a erisin es4700f mtcd 3188 1gb, but i don't know if It is px3, how Can i undestand?
The kit is only for upgrading from px3?
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Double check before you order witson px5 coreboard
witson px5 core board is not compatible with MTCD-KBT unit. Swapped the PX3, powered it up, button lights flashed twice but the screen stay black. Tried all methods to get into recovery mode but never success. Screen stays black. I think I just bricked my unit. Any suggestion to unbrick my unit? Your advice is highly appreciated

xda-learner said:
witson px5 core board is not compatible with MTCD-KBT unit. Swapped the PX3, powered it up, button lights flashed twice but the screen stay black. Tried all methods to get into recovery mode but never success. Screen stays black. I think I just bricked my unit. Any suggestion to unbrick my unit? Your advice is highly appreciated
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Swap back your px3
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xda-learner said:
witson px5 core board is not compatible with MTCD-KBT unit. Swapped the PX3, powered it up, button lights flashed twice but the screen stay black. Tried all methods to get into recovery mode but never success. Screen stays black. I think I just bricked my unit. Any suggestion to unbrick my unit? Your advice is highly appreciated
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Have you considered the px5 som you received is defective or doa? How have you validated the son as defective other than testing on your mtcd? From cross compatible thread findings its seems unlikely KBT departs from MTCD as to not boot.

xda-learner said:
witson px5 core board is not compatible with MTCD-KBT unit. Swapped the PX3, powered it up, button lights flashed twice but the screen stay black. Tried all methods to get into recovery mode but never success. Screen stays black. I think I just bricked my unit. Any suggestion to unbrick my unit? Your advice is highly appreciated
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Hello, did you manage to get it working or tried to re-install the original board? I also have a KBT unit (Eonon) and have already ordered a PX5 board.
Update: After installing the PX5 board, everything worked fine. The unit booted immediately and everything is working much better now. However I am facing an issue, that after wake up, the panel buttons and touch screen are not working. It somehow works after a period or multiple ignition on-off cycles.
Thanks,
Alex.

abagos said:
Hello, did you manage to get it working or tried to re-install the original board? I also have a KBT unit (Eonon) and have already ordered a PX5 board.
Update: After installing the PX5 board, everything worked fine. The unit booted immediately and everything is working much better now. However I am facing an issue, that after wake up, the panel buttons and touch screen are not working. It somehow works after a period or multiple ignition on-off cycles.
Thanks,
Alex.
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I've a Eonon GA8172 with a PX3 board, and i want to update to a PX5, did you had to make some software update before/after the board change?

flaviote said:
I've a Eonon GA8172 with a PX3 board, and i want to update to a PX5, did you had to make some software update before/after the board change?
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Hello, since you will be replacing the board, there's no reason to upgrade before because the firmware runs on the board itself. Depending on what version your new board will be running on, you may choose to update after you install it.
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Eonon GA6151F extremely slow right after startup

What really is bothering me is that right after startup (when the unit has been powered up after starting the car) the entire system is in-cre-di-bly slow.
I often need to use the navigation app (e.g. Sygic in my case) and the unit's so laggy after startup that I need to wait for a couple of minutes with the engine running before the system is "up to speed".
After about a couple of minutes the unit works as it's supposed to: fast and responsive. OS and apps and all.
But after any shutdown that was long enough to force a full bootup (showing the startup logo's etc.) it's all slow and laggy again for the first couple of minutes after startup.
Sygic is pretty much the only additionally installed app, apart from the stock apps.
It is an Eonon (Klyde) GA6151F (for Mazda 3 2004-2009) with MCU version MTCC-KLD6-V2.97, and Android 5.1.1 (rk3188-userdebug 09082016.13:48:16) firmware.
Any tips as to overcome this?
Thanks a lot!!
JayRayMee.NL said:
What really is bothering me is that right after startup (when the unit has been powered up after starting the car) the entire system is in-cre-di-bly slow.
I often need to use the navigation app (e.g. Sygic in my case) and the unit's so laggy after startup that I need to wait for a couple of minutes with the engine running before the system is "up to speed".
After about a couple of minutes the unit works as it's supposed to: fast and responsive. OS and apps and all.
But after any shutdown that was long enough to force a full bootup (showing the startup logo's etc.) it's all slow and laggy again for the first couple of minutes after startup.
Sygic is pretty much the only additionally installed app, apart from the stock apps.
It is an Eonon (Klyde) GA6151F (for Mazda 3 2004-2009) with MCU version MTCC-KLD6-V2.97, and Android 5.1.1 (rk3188-userdebug 09082016.13:48:16) firmware.
Any tips as to overcome this?
Thanks a lot!!
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Upgrade SOM RAM ICs to 2gb was the answer for my MTCD. Others have commented disabling google services results in additional free memory.
marchnz said:
Upgrade SOM RAM ICs to 2gb was the answer for my MTCD. Others have commented disabling google services results in additional free memory.
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Can you please elaborate? How do I upgrade the RAM?
Thanks.
JayRayMee.NL said:
Can you please elaborate? How do I upgrade the RAM?
Thanks.
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Theres no such thing as an "Eonon GA6151F" - Eonon are just a seller who mainly sell Klyde units you most probably have a Klyde MTCB or MTCC unit "Eonon GA6151F" so you ll be better off reading/posting in thread in the MTCB section because your unit is the same inside as the 1000s of other MTCB//C units made by 10s of different manufacturers and sold by 100s of different sellers. "GA6151F" is a made up name by Eonon and wont mean anything to anyone on here because we use manufacture names to identify units - this can be found in the settings/about device screen after the letters "MCU" - the numbers and letters tell us the manufacturer and MCU type.
Your ll find info on the 2GB RAM upgrade in the MTCB hardware mod forum.
Its probably also a good idea to read the wiki in my signature.
EDIT: I checked, you have an MTCC unit.
Hi
For my part i have a GA6163F from Eonon, which is the same device onboard (RK3188 MTCC) except for the screen (7 inch vs 8 inch).
Anyway, when i bought mine, I flashed the 5.1.1 ROM of Malaysk because I wanted to use TomTom on my device. It worked good but like you the unit was very slow on startup and i had to wait between 3 and 5 minutes before launch my TomTom app.
Last week I've seen that our unit (MTCC device) is compatible with a downgrade on Android 4.4.4. So I tested and it's UNBELIEVABLE ! The unit is really fast. Startup in 30 seconds, TomTom works really good, interface is really fluid.
So my tips is to flash this ROM :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70647239&postcount=6748
I was thinking about adding 1GB of RAM before but with this ROM, for my usage it's not necessary. I suggest you to take a look on it.
Cheers,
Airlink
airlink75 said:
Hi
For my part i have a GA6163F from Eonon, which is the same device onboard (RK3188 MTCC) except for the screen (7 inch vs 8 inch).
Anyway, when i bought mine, I flashed the 5.1.1 ROM of Malaysk because I wanted to use TomTom on my device. It worked good but like you the unit was very slow on startup and i had to wait between 3 and 5 minutes before launch my TomTom app.
Last week I've seen that our unit (MTCC device) is compatible with a downgrade on Android 4.4.4. So I tested and it's UNBELIEVABLE ! The unit is really fast. Startup in 30 seconds, TomTom works really good, interface is really fluid.
So my tips is to flash this ROM :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70647239&postcount=6748
I was thinking about adding 1GB of RAM before but with this ROM, for my usage it's not necessary. I suggest you to take a look on it.
Cheers,
Airlink
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When I got mine it was on 4.4.4, I upgraded to 5.1.1 and find it fine, I ve also upgraded the RAM.
But the point of my post was to tell you that you dont have an Eonon GA6151F, because theres no such thing - you have a Klyde MTCC unit whihc is exactly the same as any other Klyde MTCC unit, apart from screen size, no matter whether its for a Ford, a BMW, an Audi or a universal unit like mine - theyre all the same inside.
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When I got mine it was on 4.4.4, I upgraded to 5.1.1 and find it fine, I ve also upgraded the RAM.
But the point of my post was to tell you that you dont have an Eonon GA6151F, because theres no such thing - you have a Klyde MTCC unit whihc is exactly the same as any other Klyde MTCC unit, apart from screen size, no matter whether its for a Ford, a BMW, an Audi or a universal unit like mine - theyre all the same inside.
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Well, I know that my device is a Klyde MTCC. Otherwise how would I know what ROM flash ? But you do well to specify it again to be absolutely clear for those who are not used to with this jargon.
I just wanted to point that before spend money or because you don't know to disassemble your device, there are others things which can be tested before adding 1GB of RAM. That's my opinion.
But, that you said is really interesting. I thought that Android 5.1.1 handle badly the RAM, but the problem is maybe the only 1GB RAM with this OS. For me Android 4.4.4 consume less of RAM and works better my 1GB.
Do you use some "big GPS apps" like TomTom or Sygic on your Klyde MTCC 2GB RAM ?
Really appreciate to share experiences with you to understand better how this device react to the OS and RAM.
Thanks,
Airlink
airlink75 said:
Well, I know that my device is a Klyde MTCC. Otherwise how would I know what ROM flash ? But you do well to specify it again to be absolutely clear for those who are not used to with this jargon.
I just wanted to point that before spend money or because you don't know to disassemble your device, there are others things which can be tested before adding 1GB of RAM. That's my opinion.
But, that you said is really interesting. I thought that Android 5.1.1 handle badly the RAM, but the problem is maybe the only 1GB RAM with this OS. For me Android 4.4.4 consume less of RAM and works better my 1GB.
Do you use some "big GPS apps" like TomTom or Sygic on your Klyde MTCC 2GB RAM ?
Really appreciate to share experiences with you to understand better how this device react to the OS and RAM.
Thanks,
Airlink
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5.1.1 stores running apps in cache, so regularly clearing the cache helps overcome the lags with 1GB.
2GB can run all sorts of bigger spps, yes.
But my point, which you havent understood yet I think, is that there was no need to open a specific thread for your unit because it is the same as all the other MTCB/C units and if everyone did that then there would be literally 100,00s of thousands of threads about duplicate devices and problems. See ? You do not have a "GA5161F", you have an MTCB/C head unit made by Klyde !
Help with EONON unit RAM (too slow)
typos1 said:
Theres no such thing as an "Eonon GA6151F" - Eonon are just a seller who mainly sell Klyde units you most probably have a Klyde MTCB or MTCC unit "Eonon GA6151F" so you ll be better off reading/posting in thread in the MTCB section because your unit is the same inside as the 1000s of other MTCB//C units made by 10s of different manufacturers and sold by 100s of different sellers. "GA6151F" is a made up name by Eonon and wont mean anything to anyone on here because we use manufacture names to identify units - this can be found in the settings/about device screen after the letters "MCU" - the numbers and letters tell us the manufacturer and MCU type.
Your ll find info on the 2GB RAM upgrade in the MTCB hardware mod forum.
Its probably also a good idea to read the wiki in my signature.
EDIT: I checked, you have an MTCC unit.
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Could you please link to some specific content about RAM upgrade for a EONON head unit?
I've just got a EONON GA2186, and I find it very slow, both regarding to app running and responsiveness.
I've read something (this is my first contact whit this subject) and I guess I need to understand what is MTCC, PX3 and PX5, etc. Is it possible that you could guide a non-fluent in English through what I really need to know in order to have it running faster, without lag and more responsive to touch? What do I need to buy/change? A "core" or is there just the RAM part to replace?
I'll appreciate your help very much.
Thanks in advance.
You need to buy the RAM and then get it soldered onto the board, there are some threads in the hardware modification section.
I have the Eonon GA6163F radio in a Mazda 3 2012. Unfortunately, by playing with updates, I partially paralyzed the radio. Unfortunately, Eonon no longer has the appropriate software, so I need your help. Who has the right software for me?
Ich habe das Eonon GA6163F Radio in einem Mazda 3 2012.
Ich habe durch das Spielen mit Updates leider das Radio teilweise lahmgelegt. Eonon hat leider die passende Softwar nicht mehr, darum bin ich auf Eure Hilfe angewiesen. Wer hat die passende Software für mich?

MM coming to MTCB/C ?

Dont wanna get anyones hopes up, but a folder has appeared on Klyde's server called "Android 6.0 Show".
Of course it could be for their long promised, but so far elusive, octa core devices, but who knows, it could also be for existing quadcore ones too ? After all the dual core devices got an upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 when the quadcore ones came out, they werent dropped straight away, so maybe we ll be lucky.
Incidently, I came across a KLD MTCD unit in another thread, the first I ve seen or heard of - a few of us had assumed that as Klyde went to the time and trouble to develop MTCC and the problems with MTCD when it came out, that KLD octacore units would use MTCC MCUs, that doesnt look so likely to me now.
Of course, it could also be argued that if KLD are doing MTCD units, then thats the end of MTCB/C, after 3 years.
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XTRONS TE706PL Android 8.0 4GB RAM maybe good?

Hey there.
Today I just wanted to buy an Ownice HU.
But then I found this XTRONS running Android 8.0 with a octa core and 4GB RAM.
Do you guys think it is worth a try or should i rather buy the Ownice?
Thanks for every answer
Hometrixx said:
Hey there.
Today I just wanted to buy an Ownice HU.
But then I found this XTRONS running Android 8.0 with a octa core and 4GB RAM.
Do you guys think it is worth a try or should i rather buy the Ownice?
Thanks for every answer
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I can't say anything about Ownice but the Xtrons is definitely worth its money. I have had two Erisin's and a Pumpkin but the Xtrons is my first HU which is working without any issues.
The only thing with Android 8 is that it came out a few weeks ago so it could be still a little bit buggy.
Hello
Yes, on paper it seems perfect, I just have a doubt about the quality of the product, knowing that the audience shines by its absence.
I hope that the conflicts Wifi / Bluetooth are not identical to TB706APL, without reliable internet connection, this new product is useless.
I'm curious about the xtrons also. I was going to buy a joying but saw the xtrons has 4gb of ram. I have both a 2gb and 4gb tablet with similar cpu's, and the 4gb tablet is far faster and more stable than the other one.
I installed the 10.1 version in my truck on Saturday. The model TE103P. So far I am very happy with it. I just need to figure how to get my Bluetooth ODBII adapter working.
The performance so far is impressive. It turns on extremely fast and I like the UI for now. Compared to the Joying I had before, the performance seems better.
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I just ordered the xtrons te706pl which shows px5 with 4gb ram and android 8.0. I got it off Amazon for $269.99 with free shipping. I was going to go with joying as it's seems to be the most popular company but 4gb vs 2gb is just to good to pass up. I have 2 tablets with the same Cpu, one has 2gb and the other is a 4gb. The 4gb is so much faster and more stable. 4gb just gives the tablet an easier time it seems.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B079...236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=xtrons+te706pl
Do you have any info, about what kind of amplifier Xtrons uses?
Written info is allover the place. Dasaita updated their hardware from TDA7851L to TDA7850, which is supposed to be better, but in their presentation graphics is still written TDA7851L. Since hardware between head units is practically the same, I assume XTRONS might use newer amplifier chip as well...Does anyone have a clue?
Which chipset us it actually? Looks nice, I'm thinking about replacement of a joying with 1 gb and kit Kat which has a really slow startup.
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messiah said:
Which chipset us it actually? Looks nice, I'm thinking about replacement of a joying with 1 gb and kit Kat which has a really slow startup.
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It's using the Rockchip octacore PX5 A 53 architecture 64 bit cpu and 4 gb DDR3 kingston memory.
It is also far way better than the Alwinne T8 which uses a A 7 architecture.
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I installed the 10.1 version in my truck on Saturday. The model TE103P. So far I am very happy with it. I just need to figure how to get my Bluetooth ODBII adapter working.
The performance so far is impressive. It turns on extremely fast and I like the UI for now. Compared to the Joying I had before, the performance seems better.
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Would you be so kind to share the make and model of your truck, I'm considering putting one of these in my Ford Excursion. I'm concerned about being able to adjust the display vertically.
Chetski said:
Would you be so kind to share the make and model of your truck, I'm considering putting one of these in my Ford Excursion. I'm concerned about being able to adjust the display vertically.
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It's a 2017 Ford F150. I will try to get some pics tomorrow.
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tabocaw said:
I just ordered the xtrons te706pl which shows px5 with 4gb ram and android 8.0. I got it off Amazon for $269.99 with free shipping. I was going to go with joying as it's seems to be the most popular company but 4gb vs 2gb is just to good to pass up. I have 2 tablets with the same Cpu, one has 2gb and the other is a 4gb. The 4gb is so much faster and more stable. 4gb just gives the tablet an easier time it seems.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B079...236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=xtrons+te706pl
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hello, I want to ask.. how good sound this new device?
because, I have read that sound sucks by older devices (joying, dasaita...)
Ive just got mine xtrons te706pl installed 3 days ago and it's doing great. The only problem I've had is getting logged out of spotify overnight. The install was a pain but I have a factory infinity system with amp. Overall I'm happy with the unit. It's pretty snappy and quick.
Hows the sound quality, any hissing sounds?
Sounds great but I already have a factory amp. But I think it sounds better than the factory stereo. I can't figure out how to root it though. Kingoroot doesn't work then I realized it's android 8.0 and might not be root able by it yet.
I was looking at this unit as well, does it have pre outs for front, rear, and sub? My current unit has a huge drop off in sound quality from youtube to pandora. I've asked about it and not found out if this is a common issue or not in the android units, but that is something that is a big turn off for me. I'm hoping the newer units have this fixed. also any quirks or anything else you've noticed about the unit? so far this one is on the top of my list of what i'll be purchasing next.
Hello
With a few days of use, what is your feedback experience.
Do you test the reliability of 3G or 4G internet connection, are there any cuts like on old units built with the PX5 card?
Is there still the bug that cuts the internet connection at each call reception due to a conflict between bluetooth and wifi?
Is there still an abominable echo during a phone conversation with the correspondent with bluetooth?
I read that it is possible to have two open applications with screen sharing, Waze example displayed on a half screen is it legible, street names ect ..
Thank you for your answers and sorry for the syntax because I use Google translation
cordially
I use my phone as a hotspot for my internet do I can't comment on 3g/4g. I did notice a horrible sound while im talking to someone though. It was a loud screeching noise throughout the call. I had no problem with either wifi or Bluetooth cutting out. I haven't tried to use split screen yet but I will and get back to you. Overall I'm very happy with my purchase. It works very well.
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Do you have any info, about what kind of amplifier Xtrons uses?
Written info is allover the place. Dasaita updated their hardware from TDA7851L to TDA7850, which is supposed to be better, but in their presentation graphics is still written TDA7851L. Since hardware between head units is practically the same, I assume XTRONS might use newer amplifier chip as well...Does anyone have a clue?
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TDA7851. 4x48W I believe. Better than Joying
snaggle2thtiger said:
I was looking at this unit as well, does it have pre outs for front, rear, and sub? My current unit has a huge drop off in sound quality from youtube to pandora. I've asked about it and not found out if this is a common issue or not in the android units, but that is something that is a big turn off for me. I'm hoping the newer units have this fixed. also any quirks or anything else you've noticed about the unit? so far this one is on the top of my list of what i'll be purchasing next.
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The sound quality is so much better than the stock unit. The EQ does an amazing job of bringing out the sound. I haven't notice any difference in YouTube or spotify. I don't use pandora. One quirk is I had a horrible squeaking noise when I had a phone call. I haven't looked into that yet. The other is I can't figure out where the developer options are. I've went to about in settings and hit the model 7 times. The unit says options activated but still can't find it. I wanted to root the device but haven't been able to.

Should I get an android-based unit?

A few days ago I posted this in general https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...android-auto-questions-specific-ones-t3894283 I got some answers but I have more research lead me here.
Specifically instead of going with pioneer with whatever software they are using I could instead use a fully android based unit that is self-dependant if need be and use headunitreloaded to serve my android-auto needs (I heavily prefer using my to choose locations or change the music or atleast pass it around if anyone wants to change the music) so I am here asking the pros, what do you guys recommend that I do? follow my original post? or this post? because pretty much what I want is to use android auto while i'm able to use my phone, listen to music and use the backup camera. (on that note, which cameras do you recommend that dont shine an LED when reversing)
I too am on the fence regarding purchasing an android powered head unit. but what makes me second guess my choices is poor build quality and software to boot.
any device you looking at in particular?
I'm not on the fence, I just need to find the right one to order
From what I gather we need something px5 if we want to load roms?
The 4 I've narrowed them down to are listed below along with a camera(not all mention PX5 though they may have it, all but 1 are 10.1 inches)-
Pumpkin: looks like they have good support, 7" screen $240
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07K82XT4Q
Joying: Company has been around awhile, but youtube is full of issues with this model priced at $370
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07K82XT4Q
T-One: Little to information on the net about the company, middle of the range price point at $310
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07FKQHV2F
Eonon: Cheapest at $225
hxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07HNZ2L8D
Camera I've chosen: only 420tvl, look for one at 800tvl for best quality
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B06XNM7GNS/
Just letting you know the Eonon unit you linked does not have a PX5, it is a mediatek processor. Eonon GA2170 / GA2170B / GA2171S are current ones with PX5.
sunnywala said:
I'm not on the fence, I just need to find the right one to order
From what I gather we need something px5 if we want to load roms?
The 4 I've narrowed them down to are listed below along with a camera(not all mention PX5 though they may have it, all but 1 are 10.1 inches)-
Pumpkin: looks like they have good support, 7" screen $240
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07K82XT4Q
Joying: Company has been around awhile, but youtube is full of issues with this model priced at $370
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07K82XT4Q
T-One: Little to information on the net about the company, middle of the range price point at $310
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07FKQHV2F
Eonon: Cheapest at $225
hxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07HNZ2L8D
Camera I've chosen: only 420tvl, look for one at 800tvl for best quality
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B06XNM7GNS/
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jtom617 said:
I too am on the fence regarding purchasing an android powered head unit. but what makes me second guess my choices is poor build quality and software to boot.
any device you looking at in particular?
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I'm looking at Xtrons units honestly, Xtrons 10" and Xtrons 7"
sunnywala said:
I'm not on the fence, I just need to find the right one to order
From what I gather we need something px5 if we want to load roms?
The 4 I've narrowed them down to are listed below along with a camera(not all mention PX5 though they may have it, all but 1 are 10.1 inches)-
Pumpkin: looks like they have good support, 7" screen $240
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07K82XT4Q
Joying: Company has been around awhile, but youtube is full of issues with this model priced at $370
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07K82XT4Q
T-One: Little to information on the net about the company, middle of the range price point at $310
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07FKQHV2F
Eonon: Cheapest at $225
hxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B07HNZ2L8D
Camera I've chosen: only 420tvl, look for one at 800tvl for best quality
hxxps://wxw.amazon.com/dp/B06XNM7GNS/
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What about the xtrons i linked?
millab said:
Just letting you know the Eonon unit you linked does not have a PX5, it is a mediatek processor. Eonon GA2170 / GA2170B / GA2171S are current ones with PX5.
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Do you use HeadUnit Reloaded with your GA2171S?
battler624 said:
What about the xtrons i linked?
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I'm not seeing PX5 on the 10 inch you linked.. looks like a good unit though
sunnywala said:
I'm not seeing PX5 on the 10 inch you linked.. looks like a good unit though
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Both are PX5, the 7inch you can find on ali express specifically mentions PX5 and the 10inch you can find here on xda https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...trons-unit-te103ap-android-8-4gb-ram-t3763542
battler624 said:
I'm looking at Xtrons units honestly, Xtrons 10" and Xtrons 7"
What about the xtrons i linked?
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Yes I checked on the XTRONS website and both of those units 10-inch and 7-inch are PX5 MTCE
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battler624 said:
Do you use HeadUnit Reloaded with your GA2171S?
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No I don't, I run Hal9K 3.1.1 and FCC Car Launcher which does everything I need, so no need to use my phone for anything other than BT Calls
millab said:
No I don't, I run Hal9K 3.1.1 and FCC Car Launcher which does everything I need, so no need to use my phone for anything other than BT Calls
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Can you please test to see if it works? using wifi direct (even better if you have OneUI on your note 8). if it does work I'm definitely getting one.
battler624 said:
Can you please test to see if it works? using wifi direct (even better if you have OneUI on your note 8). if it does work I'm definitely getting one.
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I tried this with Headunit Reloaded but couldn't get it to work using wifi - it complained of an IP issue. I'm not sure if it was just my unit as I have lots of customisations on mine. But I did get the USB connection working fine.
Am looking to get an Android HU too, totally newbie here.
Could someone please advice whether I need to go for the 8.0 or 8.1, and what is the minimum ram / rom and quad or octa core I should be getting?

Will a Chinese Android Head Unit ever work as expected...?

Hi everyone,
In 2017 I bought a Witson Android 6 quad-core PX3 unit from an European reseller. I was quite happy with the unit but after about one year it suddenly stopped at bootlogo. After several months of receiving nonworking advices on how to install new firmware I requested to get a new unit under warranty. Thereafter the whole discussion started to get ugly so I had to contact Witson directly in order to get the thing settled. Witson was kind enough to send a new unit.
The new unit is an Android 8 octa-core PX5 unit so I assumed it would have better performance than the old unit. After using it now for several months now I must say that it is worse than the old one,
- when installing additional software I could not get a stable connection to my wifi router 5m away, the wifi range is so poor that the only way to use it was to have my mobile phone as a hot-spot on the dashboard
- the radio reception is poor, only very strong stations work, all others suffer from frequent drop-outs
- the GPS is loosing the connection all the time and the navigation often goes completely nuts
The unit display info is,
Model px5(1024x600)
Android Version 8.0.0
Kernel version 4.4.93+ [email protected] #46
Build number px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 eng.hct.20190219.093540 test-keys
MCU version MTCE_MX2_V3.13_1
CPU 8 core 64-bit CPU Cortex-A53 @ 1.5G
Memory 3891 MB
And here is finally my question - from your experience/knowledge - are all the problems hardware related or can any of them be corrected by upgrading the firmware/software?
I have now got so frustrated and used so much time with these cheap Chinese Head Units that if no-one comes up with any positive information about what could be done I will rip the unit out of the dashboard and replace it wit a branded Alpine/Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood unit.
Thank you in advance for any comments.
Go for the branded head unit.
Weak wifi is not uncommon. Read the forum. Did you try an external antenna?
Bad radio reception. Does your car have a powered antenna and if so, did you apply power?
You may want to try 3rd party fimware, e.g. Malaysk. They tend to be more stable.
I have had a GS unit, sold by XTrons, for more than2 years without.significant prpblems. Using Malayak firmware.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-T580 met Tapatalk
JohanEe said:
Weak wifi is not uncommon. Read the forum. Did you try an external antenna?
Bad radio reception. Does your car have a powered antenna and if so, did you apply power?
You may want to try 3rd party fimware, e.g. Malaysk. They tend to be more stable.
I have had a GS unit, sold by XTrons, for more than2 years without.significant prpblems. Using Malayak firmware.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-T580 met Tapatalk
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Thank you for your reply.
No I do not have an external antenna because there is no connector for it so I would have to open the unit and assemble one. I did not want to do that when I received the replacement unit in case the unit would have been faulty at arrival. Now I suppose I have to look for info about the issue.
Yes the antenna is powered and the power is connected. I missed the antenna power connection when I installed the first unit and had to remove it and connect the antenna power so I know for sure that it is connected now.
Does the Malaysk or Hal9k firmwares have modifications that make the units work technically better or are the modifications only in the user interface? Anyone have information on this?

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