How to properly apply Nillkin tempered glass on Asus zenfone 3 ze520kl - Asus ZenFone 3 Accessories

Ok so you bought a zenfone 3. Beautiful little piece of hardware isn't it ? The glass and metal design looks premium alright but it would be a pity if you got the screen all scratched or shattered. Remember that gorilla glass 3 is scratch resistant not scratch proof and it can be scratched quite easily by dust particles and sand. Also it can be easily shattered like any glass. Only sapphire glass can be called scratch proof but you won't see sapphire glass mass produced for smartphones screens any time soon because it's too expensive and very difficult to produce for larger surfaces.
So the best way to protect your precious screen is by applying a sheet of tempered glass. It has a higher scratch resistance than gorilla glass and it is designed to shatter on impact to dissipate the shock energy that would otherwise destroy the screen glass. It is very easy to apply on smartphones with flat screen surface but there's a catch. There is a new design that's being implemented on smartphones screens for a while now with curved margins and all which is generically called 2.5d glass. Zenfone 3 features such a screen. So what's the problem you may ask ?
Well long story short this means you can't apply a flat tempered glass on a screen with rounded margins without the manufacturer being forced to reduce its dimensions to only cover the flat surface, unless you can find a manufacturer that produces tempered glass with curved margins. So far I could only find such screen protectors for the Galaxy Edge series. They are nowhere to be found for our beloved asus zenfone 3 for example.
So yeah there are plenty of flat screen protectors for the zenfone 3. I myself got one from Nillkin. It is carefully dimensioned to only cover the lcd on the left and right margins. Problem is that the curvature of the screen starts somewhere from 1-2mm from the inner side of the lcd depending on the manufacturing tolerances. This means that even if you perfectly position the tempered glass there will still be 1-2mm on the margins that will hang in midair because it can't stick to the curvature. From what I could find this issue is commonly referred to as the "halo effect". And it's ugly as f*ck.
So there's good news and bad news. Good news is that I've found a way to properly apply the tempered glass even on the margins. Bad news is that you need some tools you won't find in the original package, namely a VISE (yes, that thing on the WinZIP icon) and SILICONE OIL or VASELINE (both have to be perfectly clear with absolutely no colour and make sure they don't change colour in time).
I only did this once with a Nillkin tempered glass for my ze520kl but it should work for any curved screen.
Ready ? Ok so go ahead and perform the steps as indicated on the original packaging (clean the screen with the alcohol wipe, dry the screen with the dry wipe, dedust the screen with the anti-static sticker, perfectly align the screen protector and apply it). Obviously it won't stick to the margins so here comes the hard part.
This is going to take a lot of patience but not much effort. The key to sticking to the margins is a lot of constant pressure and if that fails this is where the silicone oil comes in handy to fill the gap between the screen and screen protector.
So this is what I did to get a perfectly applied tempered glass on my zenfone 3.
-First I tried to fill the gap on the margins with a drop of silicon oil and then I applied pressure on the margin intermittently with my thumb to help the silicon oil to get inside the gap easier then I wiped the excess. The purpose of the silicone oil is to create a clear visco-elastic medium, a bridge if you like, for the light to travel between the screen and the screen protector without changing path (without too much refraction). Problem is that it can't fill the whole void and you still get a bit of halo here and there as there is still some air trapped within the adhesive.
-This is the part where the vise comes in handy. I strongly recommend you use a vise with rubber protection on the jaws (or whatever they're called). You could in theory do this with your thumbs but it is very hard and tiring and you can't apply constant pressure for a long time.
So I fitted a margin of the screen in the vise and tightened the jaws hardly enough to forcefully compress the adhesive and remove the air bubbles trapped inside but soft enough not to actually crack or damage the touchscreen. Then I left it in there for about 1 hour on each of the 4 sides. If there was still some air trapped in the adhesive I would apply some pressure with my thumb to stir it a little and then I put it back in the vise and leave it for a while longer until there would be no air left.
After 4-5 hours I got a perfectly applied screen protector on my zenfone 3 with no halo effect on the margins.
Since I've never done this before I have no idea how long this will last and if the problem will ever occur again. But if it does then all you need to do is just apply some more silicon oil periodically and you're done. There won't be the need for the vise anymore.
Good luck and I hope this bit of information will help someone in the long run to develop and perfect the method. I doubt the average user has a vise installed on his/her desk so this tutorial is mostly intended for the more savvy people. Don't blame me if it doesn't work for you or if you damaged your phone.
Also, I suspect that on various models of smartphones there won't be the need for the silicone oil and all you need is just some good constant pressure.

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glass screen protectors?

One of the most annoying things about devices these days is the bevel that goes around the screen that higher than the rest of the screen. THis bevel, while it DOES protect the screen, makes it impossible to use your fingers to push the x-button with any consistency?
Are there any glass or rigid plastic made sheet protectors that make the screen flush with the surface of the phone?
BY the way, I would think this goes without speaking, but let's make sure that the touch screen is still usable after applying this. I don't know that much about how touchscreens work.
like this?
http://www.shieldzone.com/
its not glass but i've seen the demo videos looks pretty tough
they work by preasure so the protector have to be able to transfer the preasure and real glass and other really hard meterials cant
really? I was under the impression they were capacitative in some respect.
How about some thick plastic then. I really want it flush with the surface of the phone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen
read up on it
the more you add which may protect the less sensetive the screen wil be
darn. and i was getting encouraged too.
The display assembly consists of two main parts. The Touchscreen panel and the LCD itself. The Touchscreen is the top layer of Mylar and glass that provides the pen interface. The LCD is the component that generates the image that you interact with. The Touchscreen was responsible for pressure. "and the more you add to it, the less sensitive it will be " That's ture.

[Review] Crystal Armor Ultra Thin 0.2mm Tempered Glass Protector & ASF Removal

The Product
Product Page
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
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You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
The ASF Free Experience
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
Round 2
They included a microfiber cloth this time (I wonder if they read my review )
The tab for peeling off the protective film is also a lot easier to peel off this time.
I couldn't use the hinge method to install this protector because the duct tape just won't stick. Not sure if it's a good thing because the coating is strong or if it's a bad thing because I misaligned thanks to not having a hinge.
Also trapped a spec of fiber, which ironically is probably from the microfiber cloth they provided... Luckily it's so small that I can only find it with my face about 8cm from the screen.
Having this protector on is also definitely visible, due to the rounded corners
Also leaks a bit of light at the side like the edge of a lit acrylic panel (reference)
The coating is indeed very smooth in case I haven't mentioned it enough. My fingers glide on it with pretty much no friction, and because the screen is now raised a bit I don't feel the ridge at the end of the screen anymore. And because it's so smooth you don't have to use much force on the screen so it leaves even less marks. All the pictures I've taken are after 1 day of use and no cleaning at all. And I went snowboarding with it and it didn't crack so don't think its weak just because I goofed the first time.
My camera lens is 14-24mm which is useless for macro so here's a video for you guys
You can find it on their site
Short Term Experience
In the first week, it was oleophobic heaven. Super slick, almost completely fingerprint-proof. The few smudges come off extremely easily.
Towards the end of week 2 it has become less oleophobic. It's not extremely slick like new but it is still very good. Smudges and prints come off just from taking the phone out of the pocket.
End of week 3 had me a bit worried. Has the oleophobic coating worn off already? Fingerprints go on pretty easily and it is not very slick. Then I realized that in this entire time I have not once cleaned the screen with any cleaning solution, only wiping it down with a microfiber cloth.
So I did that and the slickness is back. It feels more like week 2... At least for a few days.
So now I clean the screen regularly and when the screen is clean it's much easier to wipe off fingerprints.
TO BE CONTINUED FOR LONG TERM RESULTS
Well thanks to xda rules I can't post any pictures....
And I have to wait 5 minutes between posts...
This is too much for me to take :crying:
Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
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omegahanggara said:
Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
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xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
Winrahr said:
xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
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ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
shteren said:
ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
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And we shall!
It seems to cover exactly the entire screen but I'll check more precisely when I put it on.
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
(pic)
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
(pic)
As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
(pic)
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
Winrahr said:
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
(pic)
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
(pic)
As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
(pic)
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
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It's too bad that you cracked you screen protector, I cheer for you haha.
Well at least if the ultra thin is working like you said, I don't have to fear anything with the 0.33mm one. Thanks! By the way, take time to post one more time and you're good to go with the pictures, show us your baby!
Will be waiting for teh pictures!
Really wanting to buy this, front and back, to replace my <1week old nillkin tempered.
curious
I hope you can post the pics.... so add this reply to the count.:victory:
Boop. 10th post.
OP will now be updated with pictures
I think the greatest weakness of the 0.2mm will be its... weakness. The thinness probably makes it more prone to cracking than the thicker protectors, but it is also probably more flexible, so who knows. It's definitely not super fragile though, I was just being stupid.
Also want to add that the customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not :good:
So while I wait for the second protector to come in, I'll be using the phone without an ASF and I'll do a writeup on that in a few days as well.
I still have the cracked protector so if anyone wants me to do some testing with it let me know
Winrahr said:
The Product
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
TO BE CONTINUED
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sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
I don't see how a smaller screen protector makes it easier to fit, having to match the spacing on each side will definitely test the very limits of my patience, and I know I'll mess up and get reminded of my mistake every single time I use the phone.
Also can you please unquote the OP? That's a huge quote.
I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
masterv1 said:
I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
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Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
Winrahr said:
Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
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I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
masterv1 said:
I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
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Hmmm.. My main concern for the back is the fingerprints so maybe a good oleophobic coating on the glass after removing the ASF would be good... Or I could just get a cheap rear glass...
Speaking of the ASF, I've been using my bare screen for a while so I'll talk a little about it.
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
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sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
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Please quote wisely !!!
I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
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I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
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Yep you need to order from their page here which is specifically for out of Japan orders.
Then just put in your info like normal and don't worry about the state. You can repeat all the info in the comments field just in case.
I'm actually picking the new one up today and I'll have new pictures up soon. I didn't buy the back though.
There is actually no 0.2mm version set so you'll have to purchase the back glass separately here.

Question about screen protector and squeeze feature?

So here is my question. I’m looking at the invisible sheild glass screen protector but am wondering, what will happen with the protector when I squeeze my pixel for assistant? Will I lift or crack? What do you guys think?
I seriously doubt they will be sending the glass screen. Should be fine.
What do you mean sending the glass screen? I’m buying a glass screen protector. The pixel 2XL is Poled made of plastic so you can squeeze. So I’m wondering about the glass protector
Have you checked the Accessories thread here
That doesn’t answer my question. Hence why I asked it. That’s basically just listing what accessories are available
That's actually a good question- I hadn't really thought about it. Hopefully there won't be any issue with the screen protectors. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Maybe a good place to ask...
dberthia said:
That's actually a good question- I hadn't really thought about it. Hopefully there won't be any issue with the screen protectors. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Exactly! That’s my point! I don’t want to spend 50+ dollars then that crap pops off
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Maybe a good place to ask...
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Huh?
You are squeezing the sides of the phone and not actually compacting the screen, so there should be no issue.
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You are squeezing the sides of the phone and not actually compacting the screen, so there should be no issue.
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Understood but is that not why google went POLED so as not to have glass to deal with the pressure
Zagg is saying we should be fine and the warranty for return is 30 days from website kiosks depends on them
Yet Google made the screen of plastic not glass?
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Yet Google made the screen of plastic not glass?
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the only way to really know is to wait for someone to test it
BUT
this is the first time i heard that screen is plastic
what i know that it is gorilla glass 5 from their website and from other websites
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_2_xl-8720.php
(DISPLAY Type P-OLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 6.0 inches, 92.6 cm2 (~76.4% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1440 x 2880 pixels, 18:9 ratio (~538 ppi density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 5
- Always-on display
- 100% DCI-P3 coverage)
It’s POLED the P = plastic
http://www.androidauthority.com/poled-vs-amoled-792869/amp/
i know that the inside where made of plastic
but the touchscreen in the outside are made of glass (the digitizer)
so glass on top of a plastic (they get thinner panel this way )
OH right the HTC U11 have lcd glass screen in the first place
maybe you can ask in there form if anyone have a problem in the squeeze with glass and screen protector
Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually squeeze the body of the phone, meaning, the sides don't actually compress. What you're doing by squeezing the phone is really squeezing your fingertips (and the base of your palm area), so that your skin makes contact with more of the extreme edges of the screen. It's very slight, but enough to activate the sensitive touch areas there. When the phone sees a whole bunch of "touch" along the sides of the screen, it sees that as a squeeze. So, you don't have to worry about a case cracking under the pressure. However, if this really is how it works, then any case with screen-overlap may interfere with activation of squeeze command. Ditto with screen protectors.
As for the P in P-OLED. That refers to the substrate, which is the base to which all of the electronic bits are connected. Plastic allows this substrate to be thinner and more flexible. The outer surface may be, and often is, still made of glass (in this case, Gorilla Glass 5). P-OLED isn't typically used to make the body of the phone more damage resistant (although it certainly can be). It's used to make the screen a tiny bit lighter and thinner, allowing more room for other internal pieces (such as a slightly larger battery).
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Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually squeeze the body of the phone, meaning, the sides don't actually compress. What you're doing by squeezing the phone is really squeezing your fingertips (and the base of your palm area), so that your skin makes contact with more of the extreme edges of the screen. It's very slight, but enough to activate the sensitive touch areas there. When the phone sees a whole bunch of "touch" along the sides of the screen, it sees that as a squeeze. So, you don't have to worry about a case cracking under the pressure. However, if this really is how it works, then any case with screen-overlap may interfere with activation of squeeze command. Ditto with screen protectors.
As for the P in P-OLED. That refers to the substrate, which is the base to which all of the electronic bits are connected. Plastic allows this substrate to be thinner and more flexible. The outer surface may be, and often is, still made of glass (in this case, Gorilla Glass 5). P-OLED isn't typically used to make the body of the phone more damage resistant (although it certainly can be). It's used to make the screen a tiny bit lighter and thinner, allowing more room for other internal pieces (such as a slightly larger battery).
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Sorry I have to correct you here. The squeeze gesture is picked up by 2 rows of sensors inside the edges of the frame. It has nothing to do with the screen.
Jerryrigeverything did a teardown on the HTC u11 which uses the same tech. So, that section of the frame edge is actually mobile to a degree. It also compromised rigidity and failed his bend test.
Why do you need a screen protector? I have not made a scratch a phone screen since prior to my nexus 4. The screen are pretty much scratch proof unless you use sand paper to do it.

Tempered Glass bubbles.

Have anyone of you guys experienced bubbles underneath the installed glass? The reasons sellers would say is that our phone is curved and that's why it doesn't stick properly. Well, the edges of our phones are almost similar with iphone 6s & 7 and even 8. I dont see any bubbles on their glass?
Temporary fix is by applying olive oil (saw it on YouTube)
Is there any shop online selling reliable glass?
I've bought something similar to this:
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-Tempe...485504&hash=item4673658643:g:rw8AAOSwd3dZZJHl
No bubbles appeared. Hope you can find something that works for you.
You normally wouldn't not face air bubbles issue if your tempered glass is fully adhesive.
For curved screen, you need use your fingers / palm, apply some force from top to bottom swipe to push the air bubbles out while apply, having your nail at the another end (bottom) to ensure the tempered glass's edge is not closed before your another fingers / palm yet to swipe until bottom. (Generally on flat screen, you can apply force to middle, to force the bubbles out to edge, since it's curved, it not possible).
*Note: for side-adhesive only, it's almost impossible to get (0) air bubbles. Unless you use something like you mentioned in your post.
Hope this helps.
Using this one currently, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ger...mi-Mi-A1-6-5X-For-Redmi-Note/32848554909.html (After 6 glasses in 2 months this seems the best for now).
Placed with a LOT of care could be great. It has adhesive in borders and glass part sticks like normal tempered glass. You need to hold the borders and press from the middle, so bubbles go out from mid to borders.
Other full screen covers that are made from plastic are not recomended. I tried a lot, (the ones with annoying little dots pattern), sticks only in sides, mid is full of bubbles (not to talk if it catches a little humidity, OMG) and touch sensitivity is compromised.
There may be more brands with similar products (we all know how chinese manufacturers works) but its really hard to tell which is the good one from the seller pages, its a trial and error.
poke pinch them with a fine nedel to press out the air =P
Maximaro said:
poke pinch them with a fine nedel to press out the air =P
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For hard tempered glass it may be better a drill wit a little bit =P =P
There's a new screen protector. It's called Nano Glass Protector. Has no bubbles after installation. Bought it at my hometown's Mi Store. Looks something like this (pic)

Gorilla glass 5?

i never use protective glass on my older phones , i never put keys or other metallic things in the same pocket, in less than 1 month i see some tiny scratch on display of my lg g7.
i cant understand how "WOW GORILLA GLASS 5!!!" and in 1 month with a normal use it have some scratch
no one of my old phones have gorilla glass and their screen is with less scratch
Isn't that a good point to actually use screen protectors? They hardly add thickness or weight and if you would ever get scratches, you can just replace them.
As for how the gg5 received its scratch, we may never know. I'm not an expert on the "hardness" of everyday dust, sand or other materials but there surely is a way to even scratch the hardest glass on the planet given the right conditions. Some trade-offs will be involved when designing materials that are scratch resistant, flexible, clear, easy to clean and apply, long-lasting, cheap to produce, oleophobic, heat-resistant, etc. all at the very same time.
Gorilla Glass 5 is mostly aiming for durability (a.k.a the screen not to break when you drop the phone)

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