Horrible Battery Life on Nougat - Xperia Z5 Premium Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So Just to announce where I am coming from, I am a Sony fan for the past 4 years, Had the Z2 and was totally blown away by the battery life it offered. Then I got the Z5P and even though the battery performance was nowhere near the Z2 I still got through an entire day with it without issues so I was happy.
Then came the Nougat update and all hell broke loose. I am literally getting just 6 hrs of battery life since the update. And even when it is idle it still drains battery like atleast 2 percent every hour.
Also the charging is very slow. I have a quick charger that used to take the battery life from 0 to 20 in atleast 10 - 15 mins. But now it actually drains the battery if I am using the phone while charging. And yes I have switched off the battery optimization option.
Any help will be appreciated even if it is just a confirmation that I am not the only one having this issue, which will at least let me know that it is not just my phone.

There must be some process with corrupted data after de update which is constantly executing something. I recommend you to do a full wipe, factory reset
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ifilgud said:
There must be some process with corrupted data after de update which is constantly executing something. I recommend you to do a full wipe, factory reset
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Oh did not know this could happen. Will definitely try doing a full wipe and see how things go! Thanks a lot!

I never fully trust OTA updates, because it keeps all the applications data and some special case of your current configuration maybe is not "converted" to the new version and causes the programs to behave weird. Have you looked at the battery usage? Maybe you find the process which a huge % of battery eaten, and just wiping that app data is enough

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I never fully trust OTA updates, because it keeps all the applications data and some special case of your current configuration maybe is not "converted" to the new version and causes the programs to behave weird. Have you looked at the battery usage? Maybe you find the process which a huge % of battery eaten, and just wiping that app data is enough
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Thanks for the reply! Yeah I looked at the battery usage stats and no specific app is draining more than 2 percent of the battery over a charge. The only things that have taken most out of the battery are 1. The Screen On Time which is to expected and 2. The Idle Phone which takes around 15% consistently in every charge.

adya_2505 said:
So Just to announce where I am coming from, I am a Sony fan for the past 4 years, Had the Z2 and was totally blown away by the battery life it offered. Then I got the Z5P and even though the battery performance was nowhere near the Z2 I still got through an entire day with it without issues so I was happy.
Then came the Nougat update and all hell broke loose. I am literally getting just 6 hrs of battery life since the update. And even when it is idle it still drains battery like atleast 2 percent every hour.
Also the charging is very slow. I have a quick charger that used to take the battery life from 0 to 20 in atleast 10 - 15 mins. But now it actually drains the battery if I am using the phone while charging. And yes I have switched off the battery optimization option.
Any help will be appreciated even if it is just a confirmation that I am not the only one having this issue, which will at least let me know that it is not just my phone.
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after updating to .372 , i learned from internet that this build has battery draining issues. ( i never faced any )
after updating to .376. , the phone is as steady stable as my other xperias (btw z5p is my 6th xperia )
now there is however a catch.
1. if you updated on OTA , this means the update of 1.2gb via ota only replaced certain files from .305 to make it .372 build (android 6 to 7) --- such OTA updates USUALLY ends up having problems (in general) with battery draining issues. Such problems i personally faced during updating from honeycomb to ics. - in short whenever update is available; always install FRESH
2. if your bootloader is locked then use xperia companion to install fresh after wiping all data. (makebackups)
3. if your phone is not rooted then try disabling all un necessary apps under Apps section.
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You cannot compare Z5p with predecessors like Z3/Z2/Z1 and Z since
1. they were always smaller in screen size / resolution and were not 4k
2. They stops at Android 5 / 6 as their last builds and battery life was awesome w.r.t consumption
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YasuHamed said:
after updating to .372 , i learned from internet that this build has battery draining issues. ( i never faced any )
after updating to .376. , the phone is as steady stable as my other xperias (btw z5p is my 6th xperia )
now there is however a catch.
1. if you updated on OTA , this means the update of 1.2gb via ota only replaced certain files from .305 to make it .372 build (android 6 to 7) --- such OTA updates USUALLY ends up having problems (in general) with battery draining issues. Such problems i personally faced during updating from honeycomb to ics. - in short whenever update is available; always install FRESH
2. if your bootloader is locked then use xperia companion to install fresh after wiping all data. (makebackups)
3. if your phone is not rooted then try disabling all un necessary apps under Apps section.
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You cannot compare Z5p with predecessors like Z3/Z2/Z1 and Z since
1. they were always smaller in screen size / resolution and were not 4k
2. They stops at Android 5 / 6 as their last builds and battery life was awesome w.r.t consumption
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would love to know how yous is working. tried fresh 376, 378. Tried update from 6 to 7
7 7 to 7
phone idle service kills my battery. Its all over the web, an epidemic

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would love to know how yous is working. tried fresh 376, 378. Tried update from 6 to 7
7 7 to 7
phone idle service kills my battery. Its all over the web, an epidemic
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running on .376. Battery lasts 1.5 days of average use
i have rooted , debloated phone with superuser

YasuHamed said:
running on .376. Battery lasts 1.5 days of average use
i have rooted , debloated phone with superuser
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That´s great! Can´t put my finger on it... Lots of people having exact same issue, something in common just not yet known

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That´s great! Can´t put my finger on it... Lots of people having exact same issue, something in common just not yet known
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however some of friends on XDA agrees that .305 (android 6.0.1) (came out dec2016) is the BEST build ever for z5p. addressed all battery issues and it was the final build for z5p on android 6.0.1
even i am thinking to degrade my phone due to ram consumption of N is very high!
this is why xzp has 4gb ram!

I need to know. If I updated my phone to .376 and it's having this lack of battery life, DO I HAVE TO SELL IT OR DISPOSE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY A LOST CAUSE NOW? (P.S. I immediately did a factory reset after the Nougat install completed.)
Because apparently if you updated to this build, then returned to the last Marshmallow build, THE PROBLEM IS NOT FIXED, and reloading nougat will only make things worse. And if you updated to .378, it not only does this not get fixed, it breaks your headphone jack to boot.
Please help. I am freaking out about this battery life. I lost 60 PERCENT IN 6 HOURS OF BASICALLY PODCASTS. ?

Odeira.Oloap said:
I need to know. If I updated my phone to .376 and it's having this lack of battery life, DO I HAVE TO SELL IT OR DISPOSE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY A LOST CAUSE NOW? (P.S. I immediately did a factory reset after the Nougat install completed.)
Because apparently if you updated to this build, then returned to the last Marshmallow build, THE PROBLEM IS NOT FIXED, and reloading nougat will only make things worse. And if you updated to .378, it not only does this not get fixed, it breaks your headphone jack to boot.
Please help. I am freaking out about this battery life. I lost 60 PERCENT IN 6 HOURS OF BASICALLY PODCASTS.
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Well, after all my trials I flashed MM back and everything is back to normal. The issue is with 7 so not sure what happened to your handset
EDIT: Re-upgraded once again= battery 8 hour life. Go into About Phone, Status and disable battery optimization. The handset reboots and incredibly this morning it was like the old days .

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Well, after all my trials I flashed MM back and everything is back to normal. The issue is with 7 so not sure what happened to your handset
EDIT: Re-upgraded once again= battery 8 hour life. Go into About Phone, Status and disable battery optimization. The handset reboots and incredibly this morning it was like the old days .
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Maybe I'll try that. The best I was able to do was 21 hours with one bar LTE, 6 hour's sleep, and 3h40m screen on time with several hour's worth of Pocket Casts.

i confirm that on build .33 i lost my battery even on stamina mode one percent every 10 minuets over using wifi , it just keeps the battery when device is screen off -_- its horrible i didnt have this kind of problem with .253 and im wondering revert back to MM

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ridiculous don't you think?

the kernel is bugged and also since its on 5.0 lollipop
What strikes me odd is that something else didn't drag it down. Then I see the stats are about apps only, which don't take into account cell standby or screen on time.
The key thing to look at is that your phone has been running for 5.5 hours there from full charge, and it only went down 7%. That means if you keep it up, you could run it for over 3 days without needing to recharge. Nothing wrong with that (in the new world order). That's what my old phone could do (sometimes 4 days), and it had a better mAh to screen size ratio than his device (2460mAh : 4" vs 3000mAh : 5.5"). I have yet to get those kinds of battery stats with this one (down to 70% by the day is done vs 80% with the other one).
Yeah. It's unthinkable that a company like Asus can't solve this problem fast enough. Maybe they didn't get the permission to put 5.1 on their phones yet
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Yeah. It's unthinkable that a company like Asus can't solve this problem fast enough. Maybe they didn't get the permission to put 5.1 on their phones yet
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They definitely have "permission", Asus has been historically reliable with updates, but we'll see I guess.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD
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They definitely have "permission", Asus has been historically reliable with updates, but we'll see I guess.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD
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Yeah, let's see. Meanwhile we spend our battery cycles like ****
I blame Google. They should never have released the buggy mess that is 5.0. Sometimes companies have no choice what to out on the phones....I'm sure Asus had this phone in the development pipeline with 5.0 as the target well before all the bugs of 5.0 were revealed. And the way Android relies on nearly full reimage for major updates is idiotic, and also Google's fault. 5.1.1 is essentially a different OS than 5.0
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What strikes me odd is that something else didn't drag it down. Then I see the stats are about apps only, which don't take into account cell standby or screen on time.
The key thing to look at is that your phone has been running for 5.5 hours there from full charge, and it only went down 7%. That means if you keep it up, you could run it for over 3 days without needing to recharge. Nothing wrong with that (in the new world order). That's what my old phone could do (sometimes 4 days), and it had a better mAh to screen size ratio than his device (2460mAh : 4" vs 3000mAh : 5.5"). I have yet to get those kinds of battery stats with this one (down to 70% by the day is done vs 80% with the other one).
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the funny thing is my standby time is completely fine its when im using the phone that it drains fast I have amplify,greenify,powernap running and it still drains also did all thats possible to save as much battery as possible.
I also installed the Debloated Rom by Harfainx I know for sure that its lollipop 5.0 thats cause this problem cause every time I check the battery stats in settings Android OS is at 40-60%...... thats just ridiculous
The sooner we get 5.1.1 the better! Are you listening Asus?
They are shameless at the moment

Nougat Battery Drain

After upgrading to Nougat my battery is draining too fast due to system apps and chrome , does everyone experiencing the same or it's my device fault
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After upgrading to Nougat my battery is draining too fast due to system apps and chrome , does everyone experiencing the same or it's my device fault
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Same here, i think that this is a nougat problem.
Which software version do you have?
same here. after Nougat update ( and enabling Chrome which I never eneabled previously), few days ago i really noticed the battery drian really bad today. tested on 4.23.710.1 currently.
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same here. after Nougat update ( and enabling Chrome which I never eneabled previously), few days ago i really noticed the battery drian really bad today. tested on 4.23.710.1 currently.
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Vodafone au? If so then same here.
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Same here, i think that this is a nougat problem.
Which software version do you have?
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I'm having v 4.14.401.7
I don't know weather its just matter of time to adjust or a new update will be released to fix this , since nougat update my battery really sucks
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Vodafone au? If so then same here.
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Mine is Vodafone too, but from Italy. I have version 4.17.161.11.
My battery life has evened out to be kind of close to what I used to get but it's not as good as mm. I did do a factory reset and calibrated the battery and I'm now getting almost 3hrs of sot but it's about 30mins to 1hr less then before. I'm going to be putting my m9 in for a repair (hopefully free) to get my battery replaced before my warranty with Vodafone is up so if the battery does get replaced I'll do some tests to see if it's my battery or the update itself. If it's the update then I can light a fire under their butts to hopefully get Vodafone au and HTC to release a fix.
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My battery life has evened out to be kind of close to what I used to get but it's not as good as mm. I did do a factory reset and calibrated the battery and I'm now getting almost 3hrs of sot but it's about 30mins to 1hr less then before. I'm going to be putting my m9 in for a repair (hopefully free) to get my battery replaced before my warranty with Vodafone is up so if the battery does get replaced I'll do some tests to see if it's my battery or the update itself. If it's the update then I can light a fire under their butts to hopefully get Vodafone au and HTC to release a fix.
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its not the battery because my phone is brand new replacement already... its the Nougat update.. vodafone sucks. any work around?
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actually i remember when Lollipop came out same battery drain but after a week or so it somehow settled down..and battery normalized ...same thing?
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its not the battery because my phone is brand new replacement already... its the Nougat update.. vodafone sucks. any work around?
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actually i remember when Lollipop came out same battery drain but after a week or so it somehow settled down..and battery normalized ...same thing?
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Good to know and I don't know about any work around but just check what apps are sucking battery. I did delete the one gallery app or whatever it's called as it was using over 25% of battery usage. I'd recommend calibrating your battery to get the best out of your phone. (I drain my phone to 0% or as close as I can get then charge it up to 100% with the phone off, unplug then turn it on drain it close to 5% if I can then charge the phone like normal and that usually works for me) I'll still put my phone in as it always turns off at 15% battery left or around that and won't turn on so it thinks it's dead with no charge when it's got 15% left.
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My battery life has evened out to be kind of close to what I used to get but it's not as good as mm. I did do a factory reset and calibrated the battery and I'm now getting almost 3hrs of sot but it's about 30mins to 1hr less then before. I'm going to be putting my m9 in for a repair (hopefully free) to get my battery replaced before my warranty with Vodafone is up so if the battery does get replaced I'll do some tests to see if it's my battery or the update itself. If it's the update then I can light a fire under their butts to hopefully get Vodafone au and HTC to release a fix.
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Last year I used HTC m9 but I encountered mother board problem and sold it for cheap , last week I brought a new M9 I upgraded from jelly bean to lollipop in a single day and after 2 days I received an update for nougat , my battery is brand new and I'm also facing battery drain , I think it's due to update and I hope it will be fixed soon with in a week , all the best for ur replacement
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Last year I used HTC m9 but I encountered mother board problem and sold it for cheap , last week I brought a new M9 I upgraded from jelly bean to lollipop in a single day and after 2 days I received an update for nougat , my battery is brand new and I'm also facing battery drain , I think it's due to update and I hope it will be fixed soon with in a week , all the best for ur replacement
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I'll give Vodafone a heads up thanks for the info I might be able to get somewhere with them.
mine is ridiculous,received a brand new m9 a week ago from Vodafone as a replacement,upgraded to nougat 3 days ago,battery drains too quick,software is 4.17.161.11,I rooted it yesterday,took all bloatware off,changed thermal.engine in system/etc and still the same
Ty5982 said:
mine is ridiculous,received a brand new m9 a week ago from Vodafone as a replacement,upgraded to nougat 3 days ago,battery drains too quick,software is 4.17.161.11,I rooted it yesterday,took all bloatware off,changed thermal.engine in system/etc and still the same
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Rooting a brand new is a bad idea ?
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Rooting a brand new is a bad idea ?
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I'd have to disagree as no phone in the world new or old has the ability to say,it's okay,you can root me now,it s the right time lmao,imo it's the 1st thing you do when you get a phone lol
back on topic: underclocking seems to have helped a little but to early to tell,also removed google chrome as that was sucking the most power & I ain't even used it once
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I'd have to disagree as no phone in the world new or old has the ability to say,it's okay,you can root me now,it s the right time lmao,imo it's the 1st thing you do when you get a phone lol
back on topic: underclocking seems to have helped a little but to early to tell,also removed google chrome as that was sucking the most power & I ain't even used it once
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See u are having 32gb memory and more over rooting is done to optimize apps and battery usage , optimization can also be done by disabling factory apps , root is my choice to install new rom
my battery dran now is like watching water go down a sink hole. I can literally see the drain go by one percent at a time ....i already disabled alot of my usual apps. but "HTC dot view" keeps coming up and i cannot disable even though I didn't activate it? didnt have this problem in Marshmallow.
i didnt disable Chrome (to save battery) because it now (in Nougat) apparently handles what Android System Webview app used to do in Marshmallow. (OT ,TL;DR I got a blank screen issue for Google play app because of Android Webvoew app problems not being updated...only solved it by auto-updating all my entire apps then updating the Android webview app and then switching back to Chrome and updating Chrome, for it all to work in Nougat..ie..Keep Chrome or Android Webview updated seems is required , or you may get blank screen on some apps ).
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i didnt disable Chrome (to save battery) because it now (in Nougat) apparently handles what Android System Webview app used to do in Marshmallow. (OT ,TL;DR I got a blank screen issue for Google play app because of Android Webvoew app problems not being updated...only solved it by auto-updating all my entire apps then updating the Android webview app and then switching back to Chrome and updating Chrome, for it all to work in Nougat..ie..Keep Chrome or Android Webview updated seems is required , or you may get blank screen on some apps ).
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I deleted chrome from my phone and it's working just fine. There must have been some other issue with your phone.
And in regard to the battery drain: My phone's battery actually lasts longer than on MM. I only face a drain when I update Magisk from version 10.2 to 11.1. But I guess that info won't help you much since some of you are using a non-rooted stock rom...
Oh, and you better don't let your battery reach 0%. Lithium-ion batteries can get damaged by doing so. Android calibrates the battery automatically during the normal usage. And the memory effect only exists on Nickel–cadmium batteries so you don't have to fear losing capacity if you charge your M9 at higher percentages.
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I deleted chrome from my phone and it's working just fine. There must have been some other issue with your phone.
And in regard to the battery drain: My phone's battery actually lasts longer than on MM. I only face a drain when I update Magisk from version 10.2 to 11.1. But I guess that info won't help you much since some of you are using a non-rooted stock rom...
Oh, and you better don't let your battery reach 0%. Lithium-ion batteries can get damaged by doing so. Android calibrates the battery automatically during the normal usage. And the memory effect only exists on Nickel–cadmium batteries so you don't have to fear losing capacity if you charge your M9 at higher percentages.
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tks. I agree never let battery goto 0%. I never have either.
btw is your rom also vodafone Nougat? could be related to that rom?? , only because a few users here and I heard others seem to have same serious battery drain issue?
I had the "Blank app " issue when I updated to Nougat which (after gpogling and searching for a long while i found) some other Sony device users so had same blank google play app problem. The dev said that App System Webview had not been updated 'prior' to upgrading from Marshmallow to Nougat which caused thr problem.. apparently some bug in Nougat?. (I never updated Android webiew nor Chrome in marshmallow before). But after updating it, the blank screen on GooglePlay problem was rectified immediately...
apparently if you do disable Chrome, then Android System webview is automatically activated (for non rooted phones)? seems like we 'must' use one or the other now in Nougat stock?
TBH I just dont want to have the same ( really annoying) Google blank screen bug come back again..ya I could root this M9, my previous M9 was rooted, but after a 2nd replacement M9 , having had the previous one die suddenly, I decided keep this stock for the meantime.
Anyone know is there anyway Disable Dot View in stock Nougat? it keeps waking up. I think I recall I could disable it in settings Marshmallow? cant seem to do it in Nougat. Appreciate any advice.
Webview is needed for every app that has access to the internet, shows you data from the internet and isn't a browser (e.g. the play store). Therefore, it's always recommended to keep it up to date. On the one hand due to all the security fixes the updates contain and on the other hand due to all the bug fixes and compatibility fixes.
No, I'm using the European unbranded firmware and the latest venom rom which is based on the firmware I'm using. But there are more than enough reports about battery drain in that thread, too. The same applies to the Nougat OTA discussion thread in the General section. The strange thing is that no everyone is facing them even if those "lucky" users use the same firmware as those with the drain.
I can't help you with dot view since I have a dot view case and never tried to disable it on older firmware versions.

Battery problems?

I know, our device has really great battery life and I don't have anything to complain about that, but a friend of mine just got himself a new phone and his values make me a bit jealous and most of all: surprised and stunned.
He got himself a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (SD 625 variant, MKT variant really sucks), it has the same processor, same display and not even 700 mAh more (4100 mAh) and he got with some "dev rom" (made by Xiaomi, seems to just be the beta of that ugly MIUI 9, based on Andorid 7.0) 6h of SOT, doze seems to haven't really kicked in in that time. in their forum in the SOT thread I see people getting normally about 8-10 with up to over 12 h of SOT, most of them on stock ROM without any additions. And I'm quite irritated about that huge of a difference with not that much more battery. And he seems quite convinced that it's not on the cost of performance, you should notice that quickly on such a heavily skinned ROM.
Now my question is: how in hell is that even possible? I mean our devices seem quite comparablewith just a slight bump in battery but near-stock AOSP Android against pretty much an iOS clone. Does anyone have any idea what could cause that big of a difference? And if it's software based could that be done on our device? Because my experience and from different posts our device lasts about 5-6 h normally.
I mean I'm already lucky about my 2 days of usage with up to about 2.5 days on some weekends where I have a lot of stuff to do. But I wouldn't mind a bit of extra. But my biggest problem with that is as simple as: how? I could really use some explaination right now...
I don't have issues with device.. stock 7.1.1 with dec.patch, unlocked bootloader, with latest magisk. Also installed greenify.
Then you are one of very rare cases. My experience is about half of that.
And I also meant on stock ROM, without any modifications. So I don't know which apps you greenified, but that was not the point. I use Greenify too but more for apps that aren't supposed to run constantly in background when I only use it very seldomly.
The norm for this phone is 8+ hours SOT. Sometimes I get 10 and a few have had up to 12. Unless you're gaming 8 should be easy. 5 hours means something is wrong with your phone hardware, you have a rogue battery eating app or you're gaming. I rarely charge my phone over the weekend even when I use it a lot.
Well, neither of that is the case and I rarely see people claiming more than 6h of SOT
So the answer to your question is, it's the wrong question. The question should be, why does my battery not last very long and what apps or usage causes me to have such poor battery life? Compared to the Redmi Note 4 the Z Play is exactly where it should be.
Here's a link to the SOT thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/review/screen-time-t3643959
gsmarena battery life test 100h endurance rating: https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=8310#show
Here's an app to help diagnose battery condition (Accubattery): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=en
also betterbatterystats is really helpful.
I sincerely hope you get it sorted out!
Well, gsam isn't detecting any app that's off even with root so I don't think there is any. I installed that AccuBattery app, let's see what it has to say
Removed because of ****ty q&a system...
Oh, and another thing I noticed: I get very randomly reboots, and every time the battery percentage drops massively. Just had a 30% drop. And after the reboot the battery percentage seems like frozen. Now I rebooted and plugged in the cable and got 44% again... No fast charging. Do that detection seems very off
Motorola forum isn't helpful at all. Clearing cache and dalvik didn't change anything and running around for a week in secure mode (that's how random they mostly are) or even doing a factory reset without restoring apps is out of question for obvious reasons.
That's pretty weird. Did you try a factory reset and after restore your apps? There's not a lot you can do if you're not rooted, but you shouldn't need to do much anyway on stock rom.
Only other option is full RSD lite OS restore as a last resort.
I am rooted for long, that's why I use Greenify. I know it also works without but then it's a joke. As RSD lite is, it just refuses for everyone to detect anything on Windows 10.
Factory reset is out of question for the moment, it takes way too long to do it properly (with titanium and NANDroid backup first) and I won't have that much time probably for the whole of this month. Otherwise I would most likely already have went off to the next best custom ROM since Motorola just can't get their **** together and still work on 8.0 in test for 2.5 month with searching testers for another one.
I think the next thing I'll do is to try the good old battery calibration, just have to find the file storing the statistics. I know many say that won't work but that's rubbish, it worked for me already a few times
Update: no, no change. Don't know if that funky battery percentage bug on random reboots still happen since I haven't had any again yet, but they come too random and unpredictable.
And that AccuBattery just proves to be worthless. It tries to estimate the rest capacity, but then it even fails to detect original capacity by 500 mAh. The battery sucker stats are also unrealistic. It puts chrome first with 10%, while GSam with root puts it 5th at 4.6% after kernel, Spotify, Android system and fight services. Android itself even puts it 9th with screen, phone idle, cell standby, Android OS and Bluetooth in-between.
So let's see what happens first. Motorola releasing 8.0, which I will flash through the .xml.zip, this time using flashfile.xml which should force a factory reset... Or me finding the time to switch to a custom ROM
Edit: so I got another one, bit this time no crazy battery drop. But the other times I killed of the soft reboot sequence because Magisk can have some problems with that. This time I didn't
Yesterday I was finally able to do the factory reset since those darn random reboots became too annoying and Moto's support is had just the most ridiculous ideas... In the worst way.
Either way, now OTA looks better, let's see how it will turn out in the next days

Poor Battery Life on Android P

Ever since upgrading to Android P (OTA) 3 days ago I've noticed the battery life is really poor. On Oreo I used to see only 1-2% drain overnight. Now I go to bed with full charge and wake up with only 60% left. The battery drains a lot faster when I'm using it as well.
I used to be able to get 6-7 hours SOT easily. Now I'm not even sure if I could squeeze 4 hours before the battery is flat.
Is anybody else seeing this? Or is this normal considering Android P just got installed and it needs time to "optimize stuff"? But then again, with Oreo I got awesome battery life from day 1.
Weird, I've gotten better battery life..
Better battery here
Interesting. I'll let it run a few more days and see if there's any improvement. Otherwise I'm going back to Oreo.
huiseh said:
Interesting. I'll let it run a few more days and see if there's any improvement. Otherwise I'm going back to Oreo.
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Give it some time, once adapative battery figures out your usage and adjusts accordingly, you should see better battery life
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Try to factory reset ur device this may help
Thanks guys. I'll wait a few more days. If it doesn't improve will try a factory reset
I'm getting better battery life with Pie
Pixel 1 XL could last a long time. Pixel 2 XL was worse and the worst with Android P unfortunately. I upgraded from Beta, decided to factory reset since there was a bug with Wear OS eating the battery. Got a little better. Got some more little better disabling adaptive battery. I think Doze is still in Android P.
Anyway, it's still not that good. But decent.
I am having the same issue.
when I reboot the phone, the battery seems ok.
But when I start using the phone and open several apps, the battery starts draining quickly.
I installed magisk root, should I do a factory reset and not installing magisk?
I went from a day and 17 hours to 16 hours. This is definiately a piss-poor "improvement to battery life."
Triscuit said:
Give it some time, once adapative battery figures out your usage and adjusts accordingly, you should see better battery life
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I'm not sure how much help adaptive battery is going to help. It's meant to limit background battery usage of infrequently used misbehaving apps. If that's not happening adaptive battery won't do much.
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My battery life has been terrible. Today I unplugged at 93%. I've been off the charger for 9 hours with 4 hours screen on time. I'm at 23%. With Oreo that kind of usage would have me at about 40%.
I'd rather not have the hassle of having to do a factory reset but I might not have much choice.
It hasn't got any better since I reported the issue.
I think I'm going to flash Oreo instead of trying a factory reset as I doubt it would solve the problem. Maybe someone else could try and let us know.
I'll report back after flashing Oreo. Very disappointed. I thought this was the first phone I didn't need to tinker with all these stuff on. I was really happy with it until this issue came up.
So a few days ago I flashed Oreo only to have it tell me it couldn't find any of my backups on Google Drive during the initial setup. Of course, the backups were done when I was on Pie.
So I had to upgrade to Pie then factory reset. This time it found my backups.
Yesterday I managed to get 5 hours SOT with about 40% battery left. Life is all good now
huiseh said:
So a few days ago I flashed Oreo only to have it tell me it couldn't find any of my backups on Google Drive during the initial setup. Of course, the backups were done when I was on Pie.
So I had to upgrade to Pie then factory reset. This time it found my backups.
Yesterday I managed to get 5 hours SOT with about 40% battery left. Life is all good now
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looks like i'm going to have to do the same. It doesnt make sense how some people are getting better battery and other worse. Are there some of us running apps not 9.0 compatible? might be worth uninstalling everything and adding them back day by day. it'll take a long time though!
huiseh said:
So a few days ago I flashed Oreo only to have it tell me it couldn't find any of my backups on Google Drive during the initial setup. Of course, the backups were done when I was on Pie.
So I had to upgrade to Pie then factory reset. This time it found my backups.
Yesterday I managed to get 5 hours SOT with about 40% battery left. Life is all good now
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I had a similar experience. Battery life was awful after Pie update. Factory reset and it's back to normal.
ej7631 said:
Weird, I've gotten better battery life..
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same here, slightly better
It appears I jumped the gun. The problem came back yesterday.
The phone loses about 4-5% battery per hour even on standby. I have no idea what's going on; I haven't installed any new apps and usage pattern hasn't changed either.
One very interesting fact I have discovered is that the issue appears to happen only when I'm on Wifi. When I'm mobile data, all is good. So the phone seems to be doing some funky stuff when it's on Wifi lol.
Oh well, I guess I will try to install BBS and see if I could find the culprit.
mwatson said:
looks like i'm going to have to do the same. It doesnt make sense how some people are getting better battery and other worse. Are there some of us running apps not 9.0 compatible? might be worth uninstalling everything and adding them back day by day. it'll take a long time though!
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That is entirely possible. I guess we have apps that have not been written/optimized for Pie? That would explain why some people are not seeing the issue and some unfortunate ones like us are.
I factory-resetted the phone, the issue is still there. I don't have any strange app. It seems that it's just the system that is consuming the battery.
That's very strange I've had the complete opposite, battery life has improved, if reset didn't fix it monitor your apps for unusual battery usage and limit the background activity of battery consuming apps

Poor battery life

Hello, i have a problem with my A2 lite. Battery life is just 2days and 4h SOT. Suspect is system consumption 44%. Have you experienced that someone? I have to try factory reset, or what? Thanks for help.
You should definitely factory reset the phone, you should not be below 6h SoT with this battery... Im regularly getting around 8 hours of SoT depending on what u use...
Same here. 1 day after the november security update and I have almost the same numbers as the OP. Coincidentally, 2 days ago my ticwatch e started draining battery dropping to almost half of what i was used to. I suspect the update messed up something.
No strange battery drain since November update on my side. Maybe an app you use was updated at the same day which is causing the drain.
Facing the same issue after november update. Same usage, same apps. Might have to factory reset
Edit: careless of me lol
So I did factory reset. Issue with battery continues. Android system and google play services using most battery, altogether about 30%. SOT is basically half of what it used to be. Google play services are on the latest Nov12 version.
Edit: Whatever is broken, it also affects the battery life of my wear os device (ticwatch e). After connecting the watch to old cell phone (ascend p7) battery drain of the device stopped
It was the fault of the november security update and now there's another security update which is going to fix the battery draining issue!
Let's wait few days to see. Installed yesterday and the phone battery looked promising... Until paired with my wear os device (Ticwatch e). Then the battery drained started again, on both devices. Google Play Services still have top usage. (I tested the watch with my old phone running on lolipop, all ok there, so it's got definitely something to do with the latest updates)
Had same issue with 1st november patch, now the 2nd seems to have fixed: again slow draining...fine!
I've also experienced bad battery consumption since my 2x November updates, from 9+ hours SOT to 5 hours (approx 2 days to 1 day)
have the same problem, bought the phone, it was offering me upgrade to android 9, i did it, and the battery cannot hold for more than some 29 hours.... i cannot see whats draining it unless i root it, because Gsam cannot see which apps specifically. anyone still have the issue on android 9?
santos1911 said:
have the same problem, bought the phone, it was offering me upgrade to android 9, i did it, and the battery cannot hold for more than some 29 hours.... i cannot see whats draining it unless i root it, because Gsam cannot see which apps specifically. anyone still have the issue on android 9?
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Yes, I have the same issue, on Android 9 I can't get more than 6h ScreenOnTime. That's the reason why I prefer Oreo
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i cannot see whats draining it unless i root it, because Gsam cannot see which apps specifically. anyone still have the issue on android 9?
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GSam Battery Monitor can be granted some rights by adb (no root needed), so it can show consumption per app.
Have a look at
GSam Battery Monitor -> Menu -> More -> Enable More Stats
I ususally have less than 2 days with 6-7 SOT. If it's less, GSam shows me, which app consumed more than it should.
Howdy2 said:
GSam Battery Monitor can be granted some rights by adb (no root needed), so it can show consumption per app.
Have a look at
GSam Battery Monitor -> Menu -> More -> Enable More Stats
I ususally have less than 2 days with 6-7 SOT. If it's less, GSam shows me, which app consumed more than it should.
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mine says i have to root it in order to enable it. in the same menu.
been browsing the MIUI forum, some people having the same issue, the guys who dont have that issue, are claiming its adaptive batterys fault and that it will normalise in a week or so, when adaptive battery does its thing.
sound odd, but ok.
also, it says that rollback to oreo is not recommendable because some functions could get buggy.
I had a problem after upgrading, downgrading and upgrading again. Was apparently caused by a modem firmware issue. Reflashing the modem from 10.0.3.0 fastboot image fixed it for me.
Showed up as "system" but nothing that could be pinpointed with GSam (root) other than high load in the kernel.
santos1911 said:
also, it says that rollback to oreo is not recommendable because some functions could get buggy.
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not true. i have done the downgrade without issues. Oreo, in my opinion, is very optimized for our mi a2 lite....im waiting a better Pie version. if you want to read how to do the downgrade here the link https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/help/sim-card-issue-downgrading-pie-9-0-t3874350/page6
okay so what should i do now? after downgrading from 10.0.4.0 pie to 9.6.11.0 oreo and rooting and it got even worse than ever. Please advice me fast!
http://imgur.com/gallery/ny3AWee
SadToni said:
okay so what should i do now? after downgrading from 10.0.4.0 pie to 9.6.11.0 oreo and rooting and it got even worse than ever. Please advice me fast!
http://imgur.com/gallery/ny3AWee
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I don't know how you downgraded your phone but I've downgraded mine from 10.0.4.0 to 9.6.11.0, battery life is better than February update. Phone is snappy and had no issues at all (except for SIM2 which I don't use). I've also rooted it with Magisk.

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