So, where is the neat track that will improve the touch screen latency? - OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers

XDA told us they will share a neat trick that will improve touch screen latency for our phones. I want to ask where is that trick or did I miss something.

Something about switching to Conservative I think.

Touchscreen latency? Awww... I just ordered this phone, on friends recommendation, thinking it was smoother and snappier than S7 and HTC 10. Am I going to regret it?

voolandis said:
Touchscreen latency? Awww... I just ordered this phone, on friends recommendation, thinking it was smoother and snappier than S7 and HTC 10. Am I going to regret it?
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Actually we can't say its smoother and snappier than both. Its faster. Its good device but.... sometimes its not.... One Plus only cares numbers.... They want all things in high number but sometimes......
But in my personal experience i found HTC 10 is smoother and snappier than this. If u prefer Camera then go with HTC 10 or S7.

Honestly I have never had an issue with touch latency.. Funny to say is that it has a better delay then most smartphones... I do recommend this device still over the HTC and S7 pure for how much you can multi-task on it.

I also haven't noticed anything bad. This is the first phone ever which can completely satisfy me. Normally I change my phones every few month, but I have my OnePlus3 since release last year ?

I'm a kind of person that usualy cycles thru 6-10 phones a year. I've already had S7 for half a year, a month with HTC10 and being satisfied with both (S7 desing and smallish display, HTC10's non AMOLED panel with artifacts) I decided to try 2016's prodigy - OP3. Got a nice bargain - new for 318,00 euros.
So many people in my surroundings told me all the best about this device, that the smoothness was just incredible. I've got to have that, I've got to!

rob rich said:
I also haven't noticed anything bad. This is the first phone ever which can completely satisfy me. Normally I change my phones every few month, but I have my OnePlus3 since release last year
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Same here, I don't see any lag and I've had this phone since launch

2x4 said:
Same here, I don't see any lag and I've had this phone since launch
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No touch screen latency and I play a lot of games

Saad Ali said:
XDA told us they will share a neat trick that will improve touch screen latency for our phones. I want to ask where is that trick or did I miss something.
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I think you might be referring to setting the kernels big cluster to conservative. It seems counterintuitive, but I read a bit about it, tried it, and it seems to help a bit.
I have actually set my kernel settings on boeffla kernel to:
Little cluster: interactive - performance
Big cluster: conservative
I didn't have much touch latency/scroll lag before, but it was there. This setup works well for me.

Saad Ali said:
XDA told us they will share a neat trick that will improve touch screen latency for our phones. I want to ask where is that trick or did I miss something.
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I am using latest FreedomOS CE 2.5 with Blu spark v78.
Set little cores to interactive & set big cores to conservative and you will almost feel very snappy. Only rare strutters due to OOS beta I guess.
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voolandis said:
Touchscreen latency? Awww... I just ordered this phone, on friends recommendation, thinking it was smoother and snappier than S7 and HTC 10. Am I going to regret it?
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u will not regret it, it is a great phone. u won't notice any issues, it does stay warmer than S7 and does not have a ****ty OS launcher like HTC
plus u save about 400.00

Carl said it will be fixed after N rollout and acknowledged the issue. Even said it is next priority. But we have limited edition phones​ coming out while we haven't heard about a serious issue since then. It's killing all the joy out of this device.

Saad Ali said:
Carl said it will be fixed after N rollout and acknowledged the issue. Even said it is next priority. But we have limited edition phones​ coming out while we haven't heard about a serious issue since then. It's killing all the joy out of this device.
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The phone itself is very smooth and dropped frames are minimal, on par with the HTC10 and app launching + thermals are the best of any android phone. With custom kernels this gets waaaaaayyyyy faster too.
Now the touch latency is a different story. It's not very noticeable in everyday use but it's just a bit higher compared to other 2016 flagships like the S7, HTC 10 and iPhone. ~80ms vs 25-40ms of those 3. Also the distance your finger needs to travel for a touch to be detected as a swipe is about 3mm where as the others is about 1mm. Not really important unless you need extreme precision in the touch screen for idk what reason.

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Just got the one X and dislike it.

So i purchased the one X today thinking that it may be just too big for me but id give it a go and return it if it was, turns out the screen is too big but still quite enjoyable and usable but everything else isn't up to par in my expectations (i set high bar).
The screen is beautiful and i am very picky when it comes to that sort of stuff with countless hours playing with tv's, monitors calibrating and fixing them i have some sort of a fettish and trained eye so props for the screen.
But everything else just doesn't seem that great, i expected better from quad core from my move from sensation and the performance in some apps is less pleasing then it was for the sensation.
I just think there's nothing really fascinating that would make you want to keep the phone so i am thinking about getting the samsung galaxy s3.
Whats your thoughts.
Definitely return it and get the S3. Done.
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It's good enough for me, coming from lg optimus 2x its a billion time better phone, little bit stutter on games and screen flicker while browsing web but the 1.28 update is meant to sort that out.
10/10 for me sorry if u don't feel the same.
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Any performance problems will be solved with upcoming updates. The Tegra 3 is a powerful CPU/GPU. The software still needs a bit of work to use its full potential.
Send back, and get your money back. Get something you will like. If you wait a while longer, there will be a few good phones about that beat the One X.
thanks for the ohnest replies and dont get me wrong its a great phone i just think its not for me.
I thought the same with the stock ROM (I also came from a Sensation). It wasn't until I put the ARHD ROM on it that I got to see some of the device's potential.
If you're comfortable with it (and can follow the instructions verbatim), then rooting your device and replacing the ROM (baring in mind the potential problem with warranty) might be what you're looking for, unless you really...really want the GS3?
abc27 said:
Any performance problems will be solved with upcoming updates. The Tegra 3 is a powerful CPU/GPU. The software still needs a bit of work to use its full potential.
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This is htc we are talking about, do you think they are goodat optimization hmmm ?.
visor said:
I thought the same with the stock ROM (I also came from a Sensation). It wasn't until I put the ARHD ROM on it that I got to see some of the device's potential.
If you're comfortable with it (and can follow the instructions verbatim), then rooting your device and replacing the ROM (baring in mind the potential problem with warranty) might be what you're looking for, unless you really...really want the GS3?
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thanks for the reply and i expected as much so its something to think about.
The device is still fairly new, so many update to come for optimisation for the performance and maybe 'battery' life. Also wait until they publish a fresh kernel source which the developers can get a hands on and you'll see better performance and also 'battery' life too maybe. But it's true, a Quad-Core is a killer, especially how hot the phone gets, I however downclocked mine to 800Mhz - Interactive Governor and it's fine, game run smooth etc
Basil3 said:
Definitely return it and get the S3. Done.
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Did you not just read that the screen is too big for the OP...
In regards to optimization i think there is only a little room for what htc can actually achieve with what they have, they are somewhat underdeveloped with their software engineers and i have seen it with previous devices from htc including the sensation which showed very little improvement until ICS was released and that was work done by the improvements of the base not by htc efficiency improvements.
Screen size is not a issue it is quite nice but its more the frame size due to the large screen, now the gs3 on the other hand from what we know atm could have a smaller bezel which may present a smaller frame size so its not because of the screen entirely that makes the phone large.
Also there's always going to be haters on the forum because they are biased towards their own decision and cannot compensate their small brains to allow other people to have alternative opinions on things, so troll away maggots.
DANOFDANGER said:
In regards to optimization i think there is only a little room for what htc can actually achieve with what they have, they are somewhat underdeveloped with their software engineers and i have seen it with previous devices from htc including the sensation which showed very little improvement until ICS was released and that was work done by the improvements of the base not by htc efficiency improvements.
Screen size is not a issue it is quite nice but its more the frame size due to the large screen, now the gs3 on the other hand from what we know atm could have a smaller bezel which may present a smaller frame size so its not because of the screen entirely that makes the phone large.
Also there's always going to be haters on the forum because they are biased towards their own decision and cannot compensate their small brains to allow other people to have alternative opinions on things, so troll away maggots.
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Well....hopefully the devs coming over can optimize everything. All HTC needs to do is release bloody sources and stop being dumb.
Tegra 3 can definitely be optimized more, and Nvidia needs to update their GFX drivers also, I have a feeling they're the cause for some of these screen flickering on light grey colors and just artifacting etc...in general that ppl are having.
Companion core needs to be used more as well as GPU for UI things.
And yea, GS III can be a smaller devices with a very thin bezel and no buttons. But I doubt it, will still be fairly large IMO, but maybe smaller than One X
pewpewbangbang said:
Well....hopefully the devs coming over can optimize everything. All HTC needs to do is release bloody sources and stop being dumb.
Tegra 3 can definitely be optimized more, and Nvidia needs to update their GFX drivers also, I have a feeling they're the cause for some of these screen flickering on light grey colors and just artifacting etc...in general that ppl are having.
Companion core needs to be used more as well as GPU for UI things.
And yea, GS III can be a smaller devices with a very thin bezel and no buttons. But I doubt it, will still be fairly large IMO, but maybe smaller than One X
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Yea i agree, devs seem to do more improvements than the actual manufacturers its so funny. Its like why don't they hire these mofo but i reckon they know and want to save money so they just let 3rd party take care of it.
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screens aren't going to get smaller. at best, we will get flexible screens that roll up into a tube or something.
brent8577 said:
screens aren't going to get smaller. at best, we will get flexible screens that roll up into a tube or something.
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No but the bezel's could and there is a limit to perfection of course screens may not get smaller but id say they will stop at some point at a preferred size cause we are not going to be walking around with 22" screens in our pockets are we haha even if they were rolled up.
If a screen for a phone were to be developed with 0% bezel size then 6 inch's could almost fit in your hand comfortably without issues.
The s3 forums is calling you.
expertzero1 said:
The s3 forums is calling you.
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il buy both.
DANOFDANGER said:
This is htc we are talking about, do you think they are goodat optimization hmmm ?.
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Yes we are talking about HTC not Samsung which is even worse, look at touchwiz, besides hardware acceleration I don't see anything else, I doubt Samsung would rework it like HTC did for sense
Isn't the s3 going to be slightly bigger than the one x?
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[Q] Buyer's remorse??

Hey Everyone,
Curious to know if anyone has buyers remorse over making the switch to this device from another device?
Does anyone ever run the phone within the confines of the original OS?
What is your real world expectation 6 months from now with this device?
How long do you plan on keeping the device?
What is the most important everyday feature that is a keeper & deal breaker?
How has the form factor impacted the way you look at phones in terms of the screen size vs the size of the device?
Also as a side note. Have anyone ever worked with a fully calibrated monitor like a Eizo or a Ben-Q?
Or for industry folks, any panasonic or Sony broadcast monitors? The correlation being those monitors have the same look at least to my eyes.
Finally have you ever acquired a device that you did not initially have buyers remorse?
I have the phone myself. I am just curious to what the community at large is vibing at the moment...
I'm happy with the G3 especially the screen and camera. I jumped to the G3 from the LG Flex. Nice that the T-Mobile G3 comes with a unlocked bootloader and I'm sure development will be good with time. I'm a phone junkie and usually just keeps phones around 6 months. Jump helps with that.
Sometimes I DO regret getting this phone. It's a good phone, but it's just not the earth shattering, mega phone I was hoping for. Even rooted with no bloatware, i still experience lag, freezes, and subpar battery life. Also, maybe it's just my device, but I'm really not impressed with the screen at all. The blacks seem way too "milky", and i really can't see the difference between this and a 1080 screen, except for when I look at certain photos or videos.
The camera is nice for a 13mp shooter. That's really the main positive.
I returned it after 2 weeks. To many performance trade offs for the QHD screen. Once the more powerful phones hit later this year (Shamue and Note 4) the G3 will struggle. Although that's why the Prime is being released.
Curious what other 5.5" screen are you comparing it to?
Me too returned it after 2 weeks, and the reason was just the screen, everything else is great.
First, couldn't stand this yellowish tinted screen and the poor blacks, and second because of the lag/stuttering
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
As I never used dual window, I can't say if it lags there...
Most annoying was the stuttering to me, and this happened nearly everywhere, transitions, scrolling...
But Lg will fix it sooner or later I guess.
As I wrote, the main reason for returning it was the display...
grifter9931 said:
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
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Some people have the G3 lag some don't. I don't notice any lag. From what I read on here the lag is simple fix by changing the launcher and or a setting or two. Removing bloat helps too.
My screen is bight and battery is good enough for me. I guess I was lucky and got a good G3.
As far as the G3 being a "wow" phone it's not but I think those days are over for phones. I was going to wait for the Note 4 but after seeing the leaked pictures I think I'm glad I didn't.
Got the D855 32GB..
All I can say is, I'm so glad i didn't put much attention on others negative opinion about the device...
We all knew it come's with QHD display before buying it, I don't get why too many about it...
As of me, I'm very happy with it... Coming from nexus 7 2013, my criteria for next device was, at least 3gb ram, 32gb internal storage with external (a 64gb internal w/o ext is also okay)... Just saying by the way. =)
There are always those people who have remorse after buying a device by the way..
I've come from an iPhone 4S!:silly:
I bought the International version with 32GB and the 3GB ram (F400S) and I've not found it laggy at all, even with the all the Korean bloatware apps on there.
The main reason I purchased it was because I was so impressed with the LG G2 that I bought for my wife a few months back, just loved the design and screen.
Hopefully when the "Ints" get their bootloader unlocked and we can nandroid backup and get some cool roms (come on PardusHD!) then it should run even smoother.
The battery life isn't as good as I expected, but then I'm usually charging using a USB port (500mAH) so it will take ages and I've hardly ever had it at 100%:laugh: but it's way better than the iPhone 4s battery life.
I'm a little disappointed in the screen, I don't find it as "bright" as the Samsung S ones, I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%.
Overall design is nice and it's very light. I'm not a fan of big screens, but then that's the way they're all heading nowadays....
flapmio said:
I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%
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Sole reason of fast battery discharge
I don't have this phone yet but I know the 32g has 3 gigs of ram and the 16 has 2 gigs. Might be why some suffer lag. Make sure when comparing you specify which version folks
Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
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Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
I don't have buyer's remorse exactly, but I'm not thrilled with the device in every way. I like the camera a lot better than the one on my HTC One M7, and the G3 battery life is better than my M7. That's really it. My M7 felt snappier in every way, and the screen looked better. Once the Nexus 6 comes out I will likely sell the G3 and pick one up. I just can't stand all this locked bootloader nonsense and the lack of development that occurs as a consequence.
Batfink33 said:
Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
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TY I am trying to recreate the stutter as we speak... Interesting stuff
Fir3blade said:
Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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I noticed a few myself. I wonder why the reviewers did not mention the stuttering.....

M9 is slower than M8?

I have used the M8 fora while, and its speed is amazing. I'm a fan of Samsung, but I always want the best thing, that's why last year I chose the M8. After reading many reviews, the problems like battery is gone (in some way, like it's bettery than S6), and overheating seems to be not a too big deal and still bearable.
But when I saw this speed test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNN0I4zB5Wk
Can anyone else having two phones test this for me? Is it true that even the M8 is faster than M9? Thanks.
I'm going to blame it on the new architecture of the new chip-set, and manufactures not yet getting the hang of it. Gotta remember, the M8's software has had time to mature and they already know how to squeeze everything out of the 801.
I could be wrong, but it happens to everything when new hardware is released.
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I'm going to blame it on the new architecture of the new chip-set, and manufactures not yet getting the hang of it. Gotta remember, the M8's software has had time to mature and they already know how to squeeze everything out of the 801.
I could be wrong, but it happens to everything when new hardware is released.
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^^This^^
+1 I have both the m8 and m9, for ui and overall experience, the m9 is smoother, the only time I could say its "slower" is when gaming, I definitely notice lag there. That being said, the m8 was no where near what it is today when it was first launched. Same will go for this device. We don't even have kernel source yet, once we get that and they get a couple ota's in I'm sure this device will get even better, and better than the m8 hands down. We just gotta give it some time, there is a ton of potential here.
Personally I think the M8 is quicker overall as my M8 doesn't slow down during apps or games like the M9 does. Lollipop bogs down over time too. When this chip isn't throttling it's really quick, but it's always slowing down due to heat. If you haven't bought one, get it online so you can send it back after testing.
Phones never really improve over time with updates it's a myth and i've never found a ROM on a HTC that's quicker than stock either. What we have now is what we will be left with in 24 months.
Jonathan-H said:
Personally I think the M8 is quicker overall as my M8 doesn't slow down during apps or games like the M9 does. Lollipop bogs down over time too. When this chip isn't throttling it's really quick, but it's always slowing down due to heat. If you haven't bought one, get it online so you can send it back after testing.
Phones never really improve over time with updates it's a myth and i've never found a ROM on a HTC that's quicker than stock either. What we have now is what we will be left with in 24 months.
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That's not completely true. The M7 shipped with horrible touch screen drivers and got fixed in the 2nd firmware release. The M8 camera is 2x better now than when it shipped new. HTC is constantly working on refining their drivers and software ... some for better some not (Zoe limitations come to mind, removal of Notes was another complaint).
Any way it's not fair to Assume HTC is going to release a new phone an not continue to refine the software and drivers like they have in the past.
I was using both the M8 and M9 for a week. I found the M9 to be faster in everything that I did. I'm not a gamer, so I can't comment about that. My M8 was fast. It snapped to every command I gave it, but my M9 is just unbelievable. I've also owned a Gs5, and it was slower than both.
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Also, you can't go by speed tests. Real world functioning is the only true test of speed. I have almost 400 apps with many running in the background. With the M9's 8 cores that's not a problem. Another reason why you shouldn't go by speed tests is they work differently on different processor architectures and operating systems. For example the M9 has a different architecture than the S6 and the iPhone. Just because they are all 64 bit doesn't mean they are built the same.
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hung2900 said:
I have used the M8 fora while, and its speed is amazing. I'm a fan of Samsung, but I always want the best thing, that's why last year I chose the M8. After reading many reviews, the problems like battery is gone (in some way, like it's bettery than S6), and overheating seems to be not a too big deal and still bearable.
But when I saw this speed test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNN0I4zB5Wk
Can anyone else having two phones test this for me? Is it true that even the M8 is faster than M9? Thanks.
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I have made the same test with my M8 and M9 and it's true, M8 is faster than M9, exactly like in the video. I can't understand how HTC launched the M9 that way, being slower and having considerably worse display than last years M8.
I'm sure future updates will make it snapier and level.it with m8
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I'm sure future updates will make it snapier and level.it with m8
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Leveling it with the M8 is not enough (it would be welcome, but not enough). Snapdragon 810 should destroy M8's Snapdragon 801 in every speed/responsiveness aspect, and it doesn't do that. It should be as fast as Samsung S6's Exynos at least. It is shockingly disappointing.
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Leveling it with the M8 is not enough (it would be welcome, but not enough). Snapdragon 810 should destroy M8's Snapdragon 801 in every speed/responsiveness aspect, and it doesn't do that. It should be as fast as Samsung S6's Exynos at least. It is shockingly disappointing.
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yeah M9 sucks, i hope for the M10
kangconsumer said:
yeah M9 sucks, i hope for the M10
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I'm not disappointed, they all have their quirks in the beginning. It will get better.
Let's not jump all over the m9 say it's slow, I've had an m9 now for two weeks and was unsure about it performance so went and bought an s6 yesterday thinking it was going to be all singing all dancing mother ****er silky smooth ultra fast mega phone, oh boy was I wrong s6 lags like a mother ****er, hated it like I've never hated before.
The s6, It's a mess if you ask me, so today I packed the s6 up and took it back and got a refund.
Only thing wrong with the m9 is it needs some software refinements, which will come to the phone.
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raymond999 said:
Let's not jump all over the m9 say it's slow, I've had an m9 now for two weeks and was unsure about it performance so went and bought an s6 yesterday thinking it was going to be all singing all dancing mother ****er silky smooth ultra fast mega phone, oh boy was I wrong s6 lags like a mother ****er, hated it like I've never hated before.
The s6, It's a mess if you ask me, so today I packed the s6 up and took it back and got a refund.
Only thing wrong with the m9 is it needs some software refinements, which will come to the phone.
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Ok, maybe you are right about the S6, i haven't tried it too much. Anyway, it is unforgivable that the M9 is slower than M8. I hope HTC/Qualcomm will fix it in next updates.
I went from the S6 to the M9 and the HTC is hands down faster.
From the video, it's almost like it's a bus speed bottle neck as apposed to a cpu issue. Like it's indecisive about which cpu to use. Not saying it is or isn't. Just that the lag is consistent at app start up.
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raymond999 said:
Let's not jump all over the m9 say it's slow, I've had an m9 now for two weeks and was unsure about it performance so went and bought an s6 yesterday thinking it was going to be all singing all dancing mother ****er silky smooth ultra fast mega phone, oh boy was I wrong s6 lags like a mother ****er, hated it like I've never hated before.
The s6, It's a mess if you ask me, so today I packed the s6 up and took it back and got a refund.
Only thing wrong with the m9 is it needs some software refinements, which will come to the phone.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using XDA Free mobile app
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What s6 are you using lol. I rooted and deboated and its a beast. It was quick out of the box too
Icyman said:
From the video, it's almost like it's a bus speed bottle neck as apposed to a cpu issue. Like it's indecisive about which cpu to use. Not saying it is or isn't. Just that the lag is consistent at app start up.
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Not only that, kinda odd how he counts the Twitter test in favor of the M8 when the M9 was clearly faster... (and maybe others, still checking the vid at this point)
The M9's problem is that the M8 was really good. We all expect the M9 to this giant improvement. The other thing is that the 810 processor is wholly different than anything before it. The software very likely needs to catch up with the hardware. Only time will tell.
Personally I think the two devices are pretty equal. I also wasn't expecting a big improvement over the M8. I certainly wouldn't call it worse though.

Anybody planning to switch from S7 Edge and why?

I'm thinking about it and that's why I'm asking. Hare are the pros and cons as I see them
S7 Edge
Pros:
- Bigger screen
- Bigger battery and hence longer SOT
- Better screen colors in basic mode, brightness
Cons:
- TouchWiz, UI not as fluid as Nexus
- All glass desgin and the edges are nice but not practical at all
- Root voids the warranty
- Exynos can be rooted but I doubt we will see custom ROMs
HTC 10
Pros:
- Better build, metal
- Better fingerprint scanner in terms of NOT having to press the button as on S7 edge
- Closer to Nexus in terms of UI and fluidity
- Better development and custom ROMs, to my knowledge root does not void warranty
- Better audio
Cons:
Nothing major so far I see, the items listed in pros in the S7 edge part are of a better quality but the HTC 10 is acceptable there as well.
I know both are great mobiles. Interested in your opinions as I have never owned an HTC before so do you think it is worth it? I can still return sell my S7 edge that I got at a good price which is equivalent to the price of HTC 10.
Thanks
Heck no.....
ewww I'm over Samsung. Cartoonish colors, gimmicks, heavy bloat, slow updates (because they have 457489579347 devices and it has to go through carriers), no development in the states because that bootloader is locked down tight and worst of all in my personal opinion.... Amoled. I do not like amoled screens for some weird reason. Also one reason is every single samsung device in the store has deep burn ins... noooooo thanks
If you want a phone with a ton of features and you like keeping it stock samsung is a great choice. Just cuz I don't like them doesn't mean their phones are bad. In fact they are pretty darn good. But I would hate to own one, especially at the price they are asking...
HTC is a different beast all together. Simple, beautiful, powerful. It's your choice
My wife is on her 3rd S7 since launch. I'm sure its just a bad batch of phones she's gotten. Specifically, her signal is so bad, that even the verizon tech when logged into her phone was mystified that she could do anything. Don't get me wrong, my wife likes the phone, physically. But that is about it. Its been nothing but a pain in the Arse. She almost switched to an Iphone. Its that bad.
Again, this is just one situation. YMMV,
Me, I'm dropping the LG V10 to get this phone. and the V10 is a beast, but I've come to realize, that HTC is where its at.
thanks for reading. Good luck with your decision.
Sammy Exynos versions are already getting developer support, with a few roms out.
It's the US versions that aren't getting any love.
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samitro said:
I'm thinking about it and that's why I'm asking. Hare are the pros and cons as I see them
S7 Edge
Pros:
- Bigger battery and hence longer SOT
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Don't think so
HTC10 seems to have far better batterylife and SOT than other flagships:
hTC is where its at!!!![emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16] OIS front and back and SOUND. That's all I need. Hehe
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Don't think so
HTC10 seems to have far better batterylife and SOT than other flagships:
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clearly that says S7 and not S7 edge...
I am having a hard time deciding, I do like the S7 Edge a lot, I dont have to do stupid crap to limit my battery, and with my variant, I can tweak the sound to be louder or dual speaker (obviously not as good as HTC speaker)
It also IP68 which is pretty cool if you go to the beach and want to take picture near the water.
its gonna be a hard challenge for sure for me, I order the HTC 10 and I currently have the S7Edge for about 2 months running renovate rom, its really smooth, anyone who says Touchwiz is clunky and slow obviously hasnt touch the s6 or S7, even if they are clunky and slow, nothing custom roms wont fix, that being said, I do love HTC blinkfeeds. That exynos processor is the best to date and I'm not talking about benchmark score, I'm talking about battery life, day to day performance and thermal control. It's gonna be tough deciding, however if you know your priority of what you want, it shouldnt be a problem, unfortunately for me, I'm a phone whore.
dont let anyone here influence you by saying HTC 10, theres a reason why the S7 edge getting so much praise from everyone. Use both phones and see, HTC and Sony forum/thread are notorious for having employees coming in and prop up their phone (like that guy who post a video that is completely irrelevant to your questions and he clearly does not know anything about the S7 and S7 edge, there is custom roms for the exynos S7/S7edge), I mean let's be honest, they arent exactly doing well and who can blame them, if they dont do it, sales gonna go down, and they be out of business.
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
ewww I'm over Samsung. Cartoonish colors, gimmicks, heavy bloat, slow updates (because they have 457489579347 devices and it has to go through carriers), no development in the states because that bootloader is locked down tight and worst of all in my personal opinion.... Amoled. I do not like amoled screens for some weird reason. Also one reason is every single samsung device in the store has deep burn ins... noooooo thanks
If you want a phone with a ton of features and you like keeping it stock samsung is a great choice. Just cuz I don't like them doesn't mean their phones are bad. In fact they are pretty darn good. But I would hate to own one, especially at the price they are asking...
HTC is a different beast all together. Simple, beautiful, powerful. It's your choice
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you know you talking about a very extreme case...putting the phone on display at max brightness, for 12-24 hours a day is not a typical scenario of an average user and even that it takes a while for it to burn in.
Thanks all for the comments. I love the s7 edge and I'm not having any main issues with it so logically should stay with the edge as no phone is perfect. I guess I'll wait before I can hold the 10 in my hand to decide.
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I just didn't get if you want nexus, buy nexus xD
Sadly I really like the edge version of Samsung and the glass... For HTC I liked the sense... Witch can't say now. So still not sure with what will upgrade. Marshmallow for M8 just ducked it up really bad... So the updates won't be problem . And what's the point to have 1208588 custom roms cuz when basically are all the same. (Except 1,2)
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I get lag on my s7 edge from time to time which is really annoying. But I don't want to downgrade in screen size either so I might go to Nexus 6p. I really wanted this phone but I wish it came in 5.5.
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I'm switching.
1 - Root.
2 - I don't like the edge screen much.
3 - Battery doesn't seem to do well for music in airplane mode with screen off.
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20degrees said:
I'm switching.
1 - Root.
2 - I don't like the edge screen much.
3 - Battery doesn't seem to do well for music in airplane mode with screen off.
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Have to agree, s7 edge screen is dismal tbh.phone often freezes and key pad is awful especially anything on the edge.
Ordered the 10 today..
I have switched from the edge to the 10. Imo the 10 feels much better in hand. With the edge I often had trouble with the sides registering my hand. Also I don't see the screen as a downgrade, it's beautiful.
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I'm most likely going to change from S7 (non edge, TMo variant) to the 10 when it's out and jumpable. I do for the most part really like the S7, but I often getting presses on the edge screen from my palm while using it one handed, which I did not have nearly as much (if at all) on my V10 before it. Hopefully the HTC 10 will work better for me.
I also want the ability to root. I probably won't be flashing too many ROMs, I've kind of grown out of that, but I like to at least have the option.
Triavius said:
I'm most likely going to change from S7 (non edge, TMo variant) to the 10 when it's out and jumpable. I do for the most part really like the S7, but I often getting presses on the edge screen from my palm while using it one handed, which I did not have nearly as much (if at all) on my V10 before it. Hopefully the HTC 10 will work better for me.
I also want the ability to root. I probably won't be flashing too many ROMs, I've kind of grown out of that, but I like to at least have the option.
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Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...
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Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...
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mouth-watering
Really like the size of the standard S7...
HTC should've had a better form factor, the S7 fits more confortably in the hand its not too tall nor is it too wide.
The 10 size is making be hesistant, but theres nothing really smaller worth having other than the S7 and the iPhone 6S (Which I've looked into also).
Like easy one handed use.
I haven't made my mind up yet but I really wish the 10 would have had a 5.5 in display. In terms of display quality I like them both the same. I just wish the HTC got brighter in direct sunlight than it does. I'm also worried that I won't be able to achieve the kind of battery life I'm getting on the S7 Edge which is why I will wait and see what others get when the phone becomes more widely available. Right now, I can get close to 8 hours SOT or 2 days of light/medium usage with the S7E.
I guess I'm just going to wait another couple weeks to see what happens after more people get the 10.
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Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...
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Hah, we'll see. Knowing myself I'll continue to say no to constantly trying out new ROMs at the same time as I'm downloading a new one.

Still worthing buying it?

I really like this phone but I want to know your opinions about if is a good buy after one year released, specially considering I want to keep it for around 1.5 years..
I'm specially concerned about battery life, good software and updates or community development, ...
Also I wanted to ask this questions about the phone:
- is there any way for recording in 1080p 60 fps?
- can you drop screen resolution to 1080 for battery savings?
-Ok google with screen off drains much battery? (Most useful feature, in my Nexus 5x doesn't drain battery due to sensor hub)
I really love the phone but I'm not sure it still worthing it considering new phones like p10 and that maybe is not so big upgrade from Nexus 5x
-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
Definitely worth buying!
I'm not having heat issues, and battery is fine considering that you can do a full charge in 1.5 hours. Camera is comparable with all the other flagships and beats many of them in many areas. Wifi is ok, never had issues that would made me consider it as "the worst thing".
It's a nice phone, very robust, and it should easily last for 1.5 years. Development/support for the phone is great and you can easily root it (which is essential nowadays for ensuring that you get the best out of your phone).
Worth buying but I'd probably get the pixel, you could wait for the S8 (if that's your thing)
Personally I'd wait for the HTC 11, I'm guessing it'll be a beast.
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If you can get a good deal then it definitely worth it. i doubt they will make a better device. i plan to keep using mine the next 2 years and never sell it. i am in love
To be fair the issues i am facing are,
Battery life can't get more than 4 hours SOT on very high usage.
very high battery drain when i go out, LTE Enabled + max brightness with normal usage.
carbon grey color scratch easily.
keaheng said:
-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
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I don't have any of those problems. US unlocked. Good battery life. No "pink" screen. WiFi is superb. Running Viper10 3.5.0 with EX Kernel. Smooth and responsive. Does everything I want it to. I haven't seen any other phone I would upgrade to at this time. That's my $0.02 keep the change.
The phone is good and battery life exellent. Wifi could be better. But I miss security updates from HTC. No update since January.
I would suggest you to go for it, since prices are down, developer support is awesome lots of los+sense roms....perfromance is good (820 can be easily compared to 821), camera is decent enough my brother got s7 and we both click awesome pics....also with nougat voLTE is also there so worth buying it...
Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
I recommend s7 edge...best battery ever...amoled screen...killer camera...good development
Javi22 said:
Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
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I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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dladz said:
I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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Of course it's a capable device, just that I require a good battery life so I can use the phone as a smartphone, with everything enabled as I like, and it eats the battery so...
I don't like Samsung so I'll wait to see new htc however I don't think I get it because of the price. I will wait for a future one plus with smaller screen or a Huawei p10 when it drops its price
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I am debating about the same. I am still holding to my old M8 but the battery life is not so good and the top speaker is distorting the sound and I love my stereo front speakers. But I think I will wait for confirmation on the expected HTC 11 and see if it´s much better.
Once thing I am worried about is that we still don't even have a leak or rumor about the 11. Could it be that no 11 is coming and it´s vaporware?
Cheers
If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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Yes I'd guess so.
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I just bought a "mint" Verizon HTC 10 for only $395 from Swappa with S-OFF($25 already saved). Here is my list of factors when purchasing a phone:
I live in a Verizon only reliable area.
I will only use this type of phone: Rootable (with good development behind it), SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C
My backup LineageOS S5 is on it's last leg physically, really needed a new phone.
Prefer one handed phones.
Prefer OEM's that encourage unlocked bootloaders and rooting (HTC, LG, and OnePlus seem to be it)
Strongly prefer front facing stereo speakers.
Prefer IP68
Prefer OIS, with large megapixels (for low light)
Dislike glass phones (don't need wireless charging tradeoff for crackable back panels).
Dislike camera bumps
From that list, the Verizon HTC 10 EMEI activates easily on Verizon, is rooted, has SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C, 5.2 display (one handed), metal body, and OIS with large megapixelas, and is from a OEM that encourages the phone OS freedom.
The 3 things the HTC 10 fails to check for me are:
No IP68, but at least it's IP53.
No front facing stereo speakers, but at least it has 1 front facing tweeter with a sideways woofer to make BoomSound...better than most other phones on the market.
No camera bump, but I put cases on my phones anyways.
Got to ask you guys I'm undecided between the Huawei P10 or the HTC 10.. I've only had HTC's since back in the days of when they made the XDA's for O2 with Windows mobile.
Which phone would you choose.. so far the only thing I really like about the P10 is that it has 128GB of Memory and well the 6GB of Ram doesn't hurt either.
Finally I bought Xiaomi mi5s. But it happens that aosp/lineageos roms are great but camera quality and battery are much worse
And I refuse to use miui
So I'm thinking again about htc 10. My question is about roms. Since htc won't update software anymore, I would like to know if developers do the job...
I mean, are dev roms as good as stock roms? (I see it has offical support for great roms like Resurrection remix or Mokee
That would be the point for buying it or not
It also has official support for Lineage OS and they've announced it will get a stock android O update (which will probably come around January if history repeats itself). The developers are keeping up with security releases, so if that's your biggest concern then get a non-stock based rom and run with it. I'm pretty happy with the phone. The one downside to running non-stock based roms (AOSP or LOS based) is that you'll lose HDR on the camera.
For the record, I picked mine up last month. It's a Sprint model that I unlocked the sim and LTE bands on and am running it on T-Mobile.

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