Who else dislikes Google Assistant over Now On Tap?? - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

So Google rolled out the Google Assistant feature for our HTC 10, and I've got to be honest, I don't particularly care for it, seems to have less functionality compared to Now On Tap.
Anybody else have any opinions or commentary regarding the new Assistant rollout or know how to switch back to Now On Tap?
Cheers
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threetwentyfizzle said:
So Google rolled out the Google Assistant feature for our HTC 10, and I've got to be honest, I don't particularly care for it, seems to have less functionality compared to Now On Tap.
Anybody else have any opinions or commentary regarding the new Assistant rollout or know how to switch back to Now On Tap?
Cheers
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If the Now On Tap you're referring to is the old function (press and hold then Google page pops up) then that's what i want
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I like the new one better. never used old one much to be honest. new one seems to do more though, on the old one when I told it to open a app or something else, most the time it would just bring up google search. assistant actually will open and close the app.
I think you can go back by uninstalling google update?

There's a build.prop option you can change to revert to Now on tap...
ro.opa.eligible_device=true (Change to false to disable Google assistant)

ronsan13 said:
If the Now On Tap you're referring to is the old function (press and hold then Google page pops up) then that's what i want
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You might be thinking of the previous Google Now, like back in the KK days?
I use Nova Launcher, and I custom mapped a swipe up gesture on the homescreen to pull up Google Now. Seems to be an easy workaround for the functionality in the "good old days" lol.
afuller42 said:
I like the new one better. never used old one much to be honest. new one seems to do more though, on the old one when I told it to open a app or something else, most the time it would just bring up google search. assistant actually will open and close the app.
I think you can go back by uninstalling google update?
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It may take me some getting used to. My biggest criticism, is now having to talk to your phone "Siri style".
I personally found the contextual screen scanning function in Tap to be very useful, a major step forward, as opposed to now having to talk to, and ask your phone questions.
Byakko Custom said:
There's a build.prop option you can change to revert to Now on tap...
ro.opa.eligible_device=true (Change to false to disable Google assistant)
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I tried looking for that build.prop value and could not seem to find it in there. I'll scan it again more thoroughly and will report back
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threetwentyfizzle said:
I tried looking for that build.prop value and could not seem to find it in there. I'll scan it again more thoroughly and will report back
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It was in the RR nougat rom I was using.
Used it for a while now too...
You could try adding that line to it in hopes that it still works.
If anything, try setting main language to English (US Virgin Islands)

Use flar2 button mapper and have both assistant and now on tap.

I would like to know if there's a way for us 10 users to get the U Ultra sense companion

I saw somewhere that soon it will be available, but dont know where....

I can't stand the assistant. I use google now all the time to search for things by typing them in. I'm also a big fan of the cards showing me weather, travel, sports, stocks and news all on one screen. The assistant that replaced it only allows you to interact with your voice, which is something I have zero interest in doing. The most I ever used the Now on tap voice controls was to set alarms or reminders.
I uninstalled all updates to the Google app and it returned to the classic Google Now functionality. If they ever try to force the assistant on me more than they already have I might seriously consider an iPhone.

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Will Google Voice search have full app launch and everything like s voice?

I saw a demo online comparing s voice to google voice search, and of coarse for 95% of the things google won no contest, but I was surprised that s voice could say update twitter and give a message and work, where google could not do this at all yet. Just wondering if they are planning on it being able to do basically everything the other can but better?
You mean Google Now? I believe it comes with every phone/tablet that has JB. If we get JB on the S3 then we will get Google Now, unless they disable it so we become stuck with garbage S Voice.
ComradeNF said:
You mean Google Now? I believe it comes with every phone/tablet that has JB. If we get JB on the S3 then we will get Google Now, unless they disable it so we become stuck with garbage S Voice.
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We already have google now on the s3. Works rather well
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jasvncnt1 said:
We already have google now on the s3. Works rather well
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I think OP is referring to have more control with Google Now like specific app or hardware controls.
melonbar123 said:
I think OP is referring to have more control with Google Now like specific app or hardware controls.
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Yes this is what I meant. Again if you look online for demos one of them shows that it works well, but still does not have full control or access to all apps and such, it literally gives an error that the feature is not working yet. I can only assume since it gives that actual error that they are planning on it having this ability soon, which makes since.
wiz4769 said:
Yes this is what I meant. Again if you look online for demos one of them shows that it works well, but still does not have full control or access to all apps and such, it literally gives an error that the feature is not working yet. I can only assume since it gives that actual error that they are planning on it having this ability soon, which makes since.
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That feature doesn't appear to be available on any phone just yet, it just brings up a google search.
I dunno, I tried Google now and really didn't find it all that great. I couldn't launch apps or dictate what I want done on the app. s voice has been pretty solid for me.
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Judging from the recent i9300 international JB leak, it looks like we will have access to both S-Voice and Google Now. So for those who prefer one over the other, it looks like SGS3 users will be able to use either which is good news. I was hoping that Samsung wouldn't remove Google Now from the JB rom when it comes out and so far looks good
I kinda hope they just put the ability to control apps in Google Now, I would not want to have to swap from one to the other just to ask a question, then swap to the other to launch an app. Might as well just launch it manually if your gonna have to do that each time. S Voice is only better for this one thing, ask it anything that requires it to look on the web for the answer and its slow as hell, Google Now is the best for this now, better than siri, so add in the app control and its the king.
I hope with the official JB release coming out soon we will find out for certain if Google Now will have full app controls like s voice.
S voice six because its developed by vlingo who IMO was the worst assistant app... I have the note with paranoid android 4.1.1 and Google now is awesome..until someone ports it to your device I recommend assistant from the Google play market
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Swype with Google Voice....

Hi
Anyone know how to tell Swype Beta to use google voice instead of the fire "Dragon Dictate" as Jellybean has offline voice typing and is far superior.
Just a shame the stock samsung keyboard with its swipe isnt as good.
Anyway, so far only way Ive found by leaving swype as default is to pull down notification bar when Im about to do voice typing and just select google voice from the input method.
I would just prefer to press the mic button though...
Thanks
Jaytt said:
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Anyone know how to tell Swype Beta to ......
Thanks
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+1
Swipe is owned by the same company as dragon so it will not use google voice
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Phone_Guru said:
Swipe is owned by the same company as dragon so it will not use google voice
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Jaytt was asking about ways to tweak it to do so, not whether or not it would officially support it.
Swype is not open source correct?
If not, could one develop an app that overlaps the voice button on Swype provides that launches Google Voice instead?
rkhayat said:
Swype is not open source correct?
If not, could one develop an app that overlaps the voice button on Swype provides that launches Google Voice instead?
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A big +1 to this - there are many that seem to want this. Is it even possible?
rkhayat said:
Swype is not open source correct?
If not, could one develop an app that overlaps the voice button on Swype provides that launches Google Voice instead?
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Big Plus one on this too...
+1
anyone who knows how to get me started on having an overlay to a keyboard??? can you skin it?
Maybe you can try KII Keyboard. It's pretty good but it doesn't have the shortcuts. It uses Google Voice though. Check it out!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zl.inputmethod.latin
Jaytt said:
Hi
Anyone know how to tell Swype Beta to use google voice instead of the fire "Dragon Dictate" as Jellybean has offline voice typing and is far superior.
Just a shame the stock samsung keyboard with its swipe isnt as good.
Anyway, so far only way Ive found by leaving swype as default is to pull down notification bar when Im about to do voice typing and just select google voice from the input method.
I would just prefer to press the mic button though...
Thanks
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Is it really matter to have Swype with Google voice?
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w1nter456 said:
Is it really matter to have Swype with Google voice?
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If one likes Swype but HATES the terrible predictive speech recognition of Dragon Go, yes it does matter.
That being said, I guess we can't do it, so thanks to the poster who brought Kii to our attention; it'll do, though it's not as fluid as Swype for keyboard swyping.
Temporary Solution
Sorry that I'm a little late getting in on this thread, but I have a temp solve.
(Disclaimer ... for anyone interested: I, too, use Swype, religiously, because it is way faster than any other gesturing keyboard in Android - I type a lot of text, using a Note 2, and Swype is constantly helping me break all my speed records. Dragon, however, is a pain, for one, because it is not as stable as Google Voice, often giving me grief when connectivity is sporadic; but also because the software is slightly more bloated than Google Voice, causing the annoying "fade in" graphical interface which drags down on its listening response time. This lag is noticeable when you are "Swyping" at 80 words a minute when transitioning to speaking texts suddenly takes 4 times as long as "Swyping.")
Sooooo...​
A temporary solution (despite the extra key presses) is to...
1) Long press on the text window
2) Select "Full Editor" from the pop up menu
3) Tap the "Google Mic" icon​
And that's pretty much it. It is, unfortunately, an annoying solution, but for me, it's working faster than Dragon on the average. Hope that helps someone, particularly JoeyDVDZ
PlaidRadish said:
Sorry that I'm a little late getting in on this thread, but I have a temp solve.
(Disclaimer ... for anyone interested: I, too, use Swype, religiously, because it is way faster than any other gesturing keyboard in Android - I type a lot of text, using a Note 2, and Swype is constantly helping me break all my speed records. Dragon, however, is a pain, for one, because it is not as stable as Google Voice, often giving me grief when connectivity is sporadic; but also because the software is slightly more bloated than Google Voice, causing the annoying "fade in" graphical interface which drags down on its listening response time. This lag is noticeable when you are "Swyping" at 80 words a minute when transitioning to speaking texts suddenly takes 4 times as long as "Swyping.")
Sooooo...​
A temporary solution (despite the extra key presses) is to...
1) Long press on the text window
2) Select "Full Editor" from the pop up menu
3) Tap the "Google Mic" icon​
And that's pretty much it. It is, unfortunately, an annoying solution, but for me, it's working faster than Dragon on the average. Hope that helps someone, particularly JoeyDVDZ
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Joey,
Appreciate it, but I don't believe that this will work on many devices. I think it is dependent on what program you use for SMS/MMS as well....
Art. itheyxc
Try this:
https://plus.google.com/108096915458146487046/posts/i8iSG2yovVo
Just pull the notification bar down when you have swype up, and choose google voice typing.
Credit to the guy who posted this on google+
This was bugging me too - but then I actually tried google voice typing...not so great so far, but i'll keep trying
this trick doesn't work for me... maybe it is not for CM10?
rkhayat said:
If not, could one develop an app that overlaps the voice button on Swype provides that launches Google Voice instead?
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Not having Google Voice with Swype finally bothered me enough that I have been working on such a thing! I have a proof-of-concept working fairly well on my phone (Nexus 4), and now I'd like to find someone with a rooted S3 willing to try it out there. It requires root to be able to inject keystrokes into an app. If you have a rooted S3, please shoot me a message at [email protected], and I'll discuss it with you some more.
(I've posted a similar message in the S4 section. Since these are two of the most popular devices, I'd like to see if, and how well, it works on them before pursuing it further.)
CSX321 said:
Not having Google Voice with Swype finally bothered me enough that I have been working on such a thing! I have a proof-of-concept working fairly well on my phone (Nexus 4), and now I'd like to find someone with a rooted S3 willing to try it out there. It requires root to be able to inject keystrokes into an app. If you have a rooted S3, please shoot me a message at [email protected], and I'll discuss it with you some more.
(I've posted a similar message in the S4 section. Since these are two of the most popular devices, I'd like to see if, and how well, it works on them before pursuing it further.)
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This used to be a worry of mine, until Google was nice enough to release their own keyboard!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin&hl=en
rkhayat said:
This used to be a worry of mine, until Google was nice enough to release their own keyboard!!
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Yes, it's built in to my Nexus 4, but it's not as good as Swype at getting the word I want. I've tried them all, and I always end up coming back to Swype. Google's voice typing is better than Dragon Dictate, though, so this is the best of both.
There is a way
jaytt said:
hi
anyone know how to tell swype beta to use google voice instead of the fire "dragon dictate" as jellybean has offline voice typing and is far superior.
Just a shame the stock samsung keyboard with its swipe isnt as good.
Anyway, so far only way ive found by leaving swype as default is to pull down notification bar when im about to do voice typing and just select google voice from the input method.
I would just prefer to press the mic button though...
Thanks
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there is way but you must be rooted and have xposed installer installed, there will be this app called googleofflinevoice. Download it and restart then just double click on the dragon go icon and google voice will appear. Have fun!

Google Now integration

Hello to all!
I have a question: how is the integration of Google now with Sense? The various tabs of Google now appears in binkfeed or is there a widget that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not like the galaxy s2 and other terminals? The voice commands how they work? They are integrated with Google now to the point that if I ask something I am given an answer on everything (at least if provided by Google now)?
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It's not very good IMO, voice search only works when in the Google app - not on the widget for the home screen. Once HTC activate that I'll go back to using Sense
I believe there is an exposed module now that allows the ok google stuff from the homescreen if that's your bag.
Personally I don't touch google now for obvious reasons, but I think it would be more useful if it integrated with blinkfeed.
HtcOneJon said:
Personally I don't touch google now for obvious reasons...
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Nothing obvious about not using Google Now, I use it without issues so not sure what you're on about...
EddyOS said:
Nothing obvious about not using Google Now, I use it without issues so not sure what you're on about...
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If I had to guess, he's concerned about his privacy. Although the way I see it, Google is collecting that information anyways, I may as well get something out of it.
That's kinda the way I see it, I just embrace Google. I'm fully invested in their services so I don't particularly care...

Google now on tap

I know this is a more Android M general topic, but i hope some of you guys know the answer.
The google now on tap is only supported with English as the main language on the phone, you know when a multilanguage support update will come? have tried to search a little bit for a answer, but did not find anything.
Thanks for answers
Google Now on Tap is a garbage gimmick. Does anyone actually have it enabled?
jackdubl said:
Google Now on Tap is a garbage gimmick. Does anyone actually have it enabled?
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I think everybody does. It's on by default. You just have to actually use it.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I think everybody does. It's on by default. You just have to actually use it.
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I used it. It was worthless. It was like doing a Google search for what you want except you don't get what you want. Save some time and just type or talk what you want to know, instead of trying to rely on Google to read your mind, which it can't do.
jackdubl said:
I used it. It was worthless. It was like doing a Google search for what you want except you don't get what you want. Save some time and just type or talk what you want to know, instead of trying to rely on Google to read your mind, which it can't do.
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It's new. Of course it'll have things to work out. Just like anything else Google puts out. It's worked more often than not for me but definitely not 100%.
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It's pretty rubbish at the moment, I agree. But actually it's not so different from Google Now when it launched, which also lacked much utility (the weather card tended to be the most useful thing it produced). It had a lot of potential and I feel the same way about On Tap, so hopefully it will deliver in the future. For now, meh.
I would love to use it dispite the lack og functionality. It seems like something that can be very usefull when it works, and after what i have seen is it easy to search in google if the sugestions isnt helping.

Question Screen off button/tile app

I've been using a screen-off-tile from the Screen Off app by emveeha, which did exaxtly what I wanted: turn off the screen and lock it, in the way that allows to unlock with biometrics (fingerprint or face unlock).
In other words: exactly the same effect as the power button.
Sadly, since the update I got on December 29 (patch level Dec 1) the screen doesn't turn off, instead the lock screen shows, often directly unlocking due to detecting my face.
I feel like I've tried all similar apps on the play store, they either have the same effect or do turn off the screen but then require the full password, instead of allowing to unlock with fingerprint/face...
Does anyone know an app that has the functionality like the power button (turn off screen and lock but allow biometric unlock), if possible with a tile?
Alternatively, does anyone know what should be changed on the app I use to get back to the old behaviour? I could ask the developer...
TIA
I had the same "issue".
Maybe something related to security update.. Anyway.. I solved using "One Hand Operation +" by Samsung
Just use a gesture and set some swipe action to screen off..
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great, thanks for sharing.
I use Nova launcher prime, which for me is the number 1 for customization.
before the last update of the S22 phone, everything was working, so I suspected the launcher, and sent an inquiry for a possible error, they replied that it was not their application - thank you.
I continued for several days various applications and did not find a suitable one.
Your solution will solve the problem, hopefully only until the next update.
kasperok said:
I had the same "issue".
Maybe something related to security update.. Anyway.. I solved using "One Hand Operation +" by Samsung
Just use a gesture and set some swipe action to screen off..
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Thanks a lot - I saw the app but didn't want to complicate things, I'd just moved to using gestures (my previous phone, Nokia 8, still had hardware buttons...).
I didn't look far enough to see that the app just complements and extends the regular gesture options.
I took the dive, and just extended the regular "back" function with the "screen off" function, and all is well. So I'm a happy camper now, thanks a million.
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great, thanks for sharing.
I use Nova launcher prime, which for me is the number 1 for customization.
before the last update of the S22 phone, everything was working, so I suspected the launcher, and sent an inquiry for a possible error, they replied that it was not their application - thank you.
I continued for several days various applications and did not find a suitable one.
Your solution will solve the problem, hopefully only until the next update.
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That's one of the sucky things, when stuff breaks due to updates, no one is responsible...
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it's a matter of habit, and the most I can't stand is that expensive phones are not able to do the simplest application-task of 100kb.

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