Not sure what has happened (there haven't been any OTA updates), but my device crashes anytime I open things like Phone, Messenger, Contacts, and a few apps that integrate with those services and some that do not. I am on official with no root and changed nothing since my last time using it. Is anyone else having these random issues? Really not wanting to factory reset this thing.
My Fire Phone has the same issue. It start doing it a few weeks ago. It seemed like it was only apps that have some relationship to Contact data. WhatsApp, all contact apps, all phone apps, dialer apps, etc.
I ended up reseting the phone and starting from scratch. The issue seemed to be fixed. Today I use the phone in the morning, and it was fine. I pick it up to use some hours later, and the default launcher (Arrow Launcher) would crash every two seconds. I had to uninstall it from the OS Settings, and then pick another launcher. The other launchers are fine, but it was back to the same old story... opening any app that has a relationship to contacts data crashes.
Did you ever find a solution or a cause?
I never found a solution. My phone is sitting on my desk waiting to be used again. I thought that I would for sure be able to reinstall a non-damaged APK for the contacts application on the fire phone, but I haven't found a way. There has to be a way of fixing this issue without doing a clean install.
How to fix Crashing System Apps on your Amazon Fire Phone
I figured out how to fix this issue with the help of the amazon customer support team. I created a short video on youtube which should be able to help. Video can be found by googling "How to fix Crashing System Apps on your Amazon Fire Phone" or by copying and pasting the following link without quotes "bit.ly/2vSKcYn"
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My Fire Phone has the same issue. It start doing it a few weeks ago. It seemed like it was only apps that have some relationship to Contact data. WhatsApp, all contact apps, all phone apps, dialer apps, etc.
I ended up reseting the phone and starting from scratch. The issue seemed to be fixed. Today I use the phone in the morning, and it was fine. I pick it up to use some hours later, and the default launcher (Arrow Launcher) would crash every two seconds. I had to uninstall it from the OS Settings, and then pick another launcher. The other launchers are fine, but it was back to the same old story... opening any app that has a relationship to contacts data crashes.
Did you ever find a solution or a cause?
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I figured out how to fix this issue with the help of the amazon customer support team. I created a short video on youtube which should be able to help. Video can be found by googling "How to fix Crashing System Apps on your Amazon Fire Phone" or by copying and pasting the following link without quotes "bit.ly/2vSKcYn"
In the settings menu in manage applications switch to all applications and look for content management services application. Open ot and clear the cache and the data. I think the problem will be solved.
Found a solution ??
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Not sure what has happened (there haven't been any OTA updates), but my device crashes anytime I open things like Phone, Messenger, Contacts, and a few apps that integrate with those services and some that do not. I am on official with no root and changed nothing since my last time using it. Is anyone else having these random issues? Really not wanting to factory reset this thing.
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Dear... I had same issue....
But finally I have found a crazy solution.... that is "uninstall all Fire Phone Updates" and at the end clear and clear data and force stop " content management services"
Hold power button for at least 40 sec.... after rebooting you phone gonna be fixed...
Sorry for bad English....?
100% smoothly working... let's kick the problems???
Doesn't work. I'm having the exact same issue. Tried all solutions here but they did not work. On the last solution though, how do you uninstall all fire phone updates?? Thanks!
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Doesn't work. I'm having the exact same issue. Tried all solutions here but they did not work. On the last solution though, how do you uninstall all fire phone updates?? Thanks!
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Dude.. Simply go the settings . Click on application then manage applications, select filter "downloaded".. then you will see system downloaded applications... click on every single system app nd uninstall updates... After all, being system uninstalled updates, again chose filter to "All" then search for "content management services" click on it... do clear cache, clear data, and force stop... now hold power+vol down button for at least 40 seconds... problem fixed
That fix didn't work for me. Anyone else have any ideas?
Maybe it is DIGITS? or iCloud sync?
I had the same problem, and the instructions above did not fix the situation for me, either, at least after just a couple of tries. However, I have 2 Fire Phones, and the other one was fine when I booted it from a month-long (or more) slumber. Then I did a few things to update it a bit and then it was also not fine, so something recent is causing the problem. But I do not know which of the "few things" messed up the 2nd phone. Maybe just being connected to the internet for a few minutes after a new boot from having been off for a while. I did not try to fix Phone 2 because clearing the data for Content Management Service will mess up all my app organization, removing them from folders, which is a huge pain to reorganize (well over 100 apps).
UPDATE: I shortened my long post. I had suspected either T-Mobile DIGITS or iCloud CardDav sync issue, or some other process that writes to the content management cache/data with each boot (since those processes launch with each boot), which I thought was why the fix did not immediately work on my phone. But now I think I figured it out. I made a new post since I can't edit the title of this one. But neither DIGITS nor iCloud was causing the issue. Sorry for so many "trouble-shooting" posts. I was thinking maybe others with crashes are using the same apps I suspected.
Android bug is the issue; need to delete a few apps
I think I figured out one issue which can cause this problem, which is not really a Fire Phone problem but an Android problem, at least with older version of Android and its Fire OS derivative. If you google the issue without restricting to Fire Phone, you'll see this is a common problem.
The issue is having too many apps installed -- even if you have plenty of space for them. I'm going from memory (too lazy to search again) but it seems android has a numbering system for the services within apps, but the numbering system has finite available numbers, so if you have too many apps (say, over 100 like I did), especially ones that use numerous services (and therefore numerous spots within the numbering system), then the OS can't handle that. So the solution is to delete some of your apps. Some apps will have a bigger impact than others.
So, this was the reason why one of the earlier posters said it fixed the issue when deleting "updates" to system apps. These updates are usually new installs that are used instead of the app that came with the phone which is "inactivated," so they take up spots within the numbering system just like any new install. But it actually does not matter which particular app you delete, so just delete ones you don't use.
Also, this was the reason why my Fire Phone 2, like my Fire Phone 1, went bad shortly after I booted it and did some stuff to it. That stuff was to "sync" my setup with Fire Phone 1, since I keep the two almost the same. I install almost the same apps and organize them the same way, so if a phone breaks or I don't have time to charge the battery, I can just swap in my SIM to a working phone and it is up-to-date and ready to go. Perfect backup system. But this means they were both similarly maxed out with apps, and when I added a few more to Phone 2, it developed the same issue. I believe I updated Outlook from Amazon App Store, and OneDrive from Google Play Store (I think I had installed OneDrive from Amazon store but it is no longer available there). And I added a couple of other apps in addition, like Microsoft Translator; nothing with contact links. So, not major changes.
Problem is, even if you uninstall a bunch of software, you'll still need to clear the data from Content Management Services, following the instructions in the YouTube vid posted earlier. Which is a pain if you have a lot of apps, because you have to organize them fresh.
UPDATE: My issue was not yet really fixed. While trouble shooting, I disabled Contacts Storage, and that actually prevents crashes even before deleting the excess apps. (It then seems to disappear from the list of apps but actually it is there: Need to scroll to the very bottom of the long applications list.) Re-enabling Contacts Storage brings back the crashes. But then I cleared its cash/data and force quit, and cleared just the cache (not data) in Content Management Services, and did the long press on the power button. Now it seems to be fixed.
So, it seems Contacts Storage was an important culprit.
I still love the Fire Phone but I'm stunned at how buggy Android is (or was, back in 4.4).
Maybe a Telegram or Vonage update initiated the problem
I was able to fix my 2nd Fire Phone without clearing data from Content Management Services (I did clear cache and force quit, then long press power). And before that I also cleared Contacts Storage and force quit. This was super nice because I did not have to organize all my apps from scratch.
However, my first try of the above did not fix. I then deleted Telegram and Vonage, and then repeated the above procedures, and now my 2nd phone is fixed too.
I had also deleted Telegram and Vonage from Fire 1 when I was culling apps, so now I'm wondering if one of those was the issue that messed things up. I've had them on my phones for a long time but did recent updates on Google Play Store. I do not use these apps but have them just in case an acquaintance prefers them for messaging, but maybe an initial launch and setup has some associated process launch on each boot.
So now I'm not sure what caused my problem; an app update or too many apps or a combination of the two??
I'm thinking it is not a good idea to install calling apps on the Fire. It had its own version of Skype and so maybe calling apps need to be somehow adjusted for Fire OS. (And Skype on Fire Phone is no longer officially supported, even though Android 4.4 is.)
UPDATE: Reinstalling Telegram does not reproduce the issue. And in addition to Telegram and Vonage, I had removed some other apps. I did not retest with Vonage but Telegram is definitely NOT the issue. At least the version that's in Play Store as of this Edit, which is July 8 2018.
It is Microsoft OneDrive that's causing the issue
I figured out the issue, at least in my case. The newest version of Microsoft OneDrive from Google Play Store is causing the problem. It is version 4.15, from Sept 2017, but I take a while to update apps from Play Store sometimes, and so it wasn't causing an issue until I recently updated it. I can reproduce the issue. The app has other weird problems like its icon disappearing. Also, the version from Amazon App Store no longer shows up (but it tries to "update" my Google Play version since the version numbers don't match). That version now fails to install, so it is probably missing from Amazon servers. Anyway, if I download latest from Google Play, it does not cause the issue until I launch and sign in. Then Contacts and Phone will crash. Then when I first clear all its data and then uninstall, the Phone and Contacts no longer crash. OneDrive permissions includes contacts, so it does something to contacts data that causes Contacts and stuff using it to crash. I hope Microsoft will fix this and put OneDrive back in Amazon Store, because OneNote needs it. I had both OneNote and OneDrive from Play Store because the Amazon App Store versions were both older. But both are now missing when I search the Amazon App Store with my phone. So these Microsoft apps are no good on Fire Phone (and maybe other Fire OS?) for the time being.
It' enough to disable Contact Storage app to stop Dialer from crashing. So now we have dialer with no contacts and history I Hope someone will resolve this issue.
Luca7007 said:
It' enough to disable Contact Storage app to stop Dialer from crashing. So now we have dialer with no contacts and history I Hope someone will resolve this issue.
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I think the issue is in part too many apps for this version of Android, especially bigger ones with numerous processes. AND communication apps from Google Play Store that launch automatically upon reboot and write to contacts.
I finally have both phones working nicely. I just backed up and then deleted a bunch of apps that I was not using. But that alone may not have been my biggest issue. It seems that at least the newest versions of communication apps from Google Play Store cause this problem, even after I had culled my apps. For example Signal seems to have caused the problem, but for some reason only if I was using the CardDav-sync app (to sync my iCloud contacts). Once I uninstalled Signal, all is working fine. I have my contacts synced from iCloud now, and nothing is crashing. So it is not simply a high app count issue, though maybe it is a combination of problems.
Anyway, you do not have to disable Contacts Storage to use your phone. I did not even need to long-press (soft reset) or clear cache for Content Management Services. I just uninstalled Signal, then cleared cache and data for Contacts Storage and then did a regular restart, and the Phone app and Contacts are no longer crashing.
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Guys, Ive seen the other posts, about this issue, and want to know a few things.
First off I am new here, and new to phone programming and general security issues on them as well. So if I jack this up, my bad.
I have a Galaxy Note 2 AT&T SGH-I317 stock (not rooted)
Its running
android 4.1.2 kernel vers 3.0.31
build JZO54K.I317UCAMC3
(before you start with check the other posts, I have tried the reset "power, home and volume button" and chose number 4 to clear all partition cache, also ran in safe mode to see if it was a downloaded app, still didn't work) I also want to know what is causing it, before I do the "applications manager reset all apps" Got a lot of custom settings and items blocked. Don't want to redo all of it.
So as of last night I was disabling some running process in the application manager. I did it by checking on them before. But, its not like I had the OFFICIAL Droid guide to disabling stuff on your Note2. That being said I take care to do it the best I can. Before I disabled each one, I cleared the cache of each one (if it was a option) and unchecked Show notifications. Force stopped them, and disabled each one.
Starting around 2pm CST the next day, my phone started to lock up, messenger will not work, phone app crashes after every call. But I was using it all morning on twitter, and instagram with no issues. And various other will not load etc. What could cause this? and is there a official list of applications for note2 with what they do and what they control.
Short list of disabled applications from last night are
Market Feedback Agent
LogsProvider
Google Play services, and Play store.
Google Partner Setup
DRM Protected Content Storage
DioDict3services (not sure about this one)
com.google.andriod.voicesearch
com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks
Search Applications Provider, (found on android.forms to be ok to disabled)
TopicWall
Thank y'all in advanced.
matt
I just booted my brand new 2014 note and when the home screen finally showed up the notification bar was full of warning sign/exclamation marks each mentioning a different app saying "<app name>" could not be downloaded due to an error (920)".
I've bought well over a dozen Android devices through the years and they've all downloaded my set of apps just fine. Some of the apps that get downloaded cannot be found on the app store any more as the developer packed up and left, but they still download when I get a new device.
But, this error essentially means that none of my initial download of apps (which is the only way I get some of my legacy apps) didn't happen.
Any thoughts on troubleshooting this? I didn't find any references to the problem in the Note2014 forums.
Also, if I can get the downloads to work, any thoughts on triggering it to do the "brand new device download" again?
FWIW, I did try a factory reset once the new system update downloaded to see if it would download the apps with the new OTA version of the play store, but the same thing happened all over again...
Note that the standard solutions you find on the web include removing your Google account and adding it back and force stopping the Google Play Store and then clearing its data and cache.
I recreated the account about 4 times and cleared the data and cache about 15 or so times and one of those times it managed to download just updates for the pre-installed apps, leaving me with none of the 100 or so apps I usually have. I then tried recreating the account and clearing the data again a few times, but it stubbornly refused to believe it had any more work to do.
Then I did another Factory Reset after all of that, hoping that the gremlins were asleep, but it came back up to the notification list full of hundreds of 920 errors. I also found a thread on the web about someone asking about retriggering the initial download of all of the apps and nobody could find a solution - they eventually gave up and just manually reinstalled all of the apps. That isn't really a good solution for the hundreds of apps that I typically carry and isn't even possible for the 5 or 6 that are no longer searchable on the Play Store (they must be downloaded in that initial download or they won't appear. I can get their 920 notification errors, but I can't use that to trigger another download of the original app...
I've had the same issue. Usually, I just turn the device off for a bit, turn it back on and it's fine. It seems to be an odd issue. If it lasts longer than a day I'd try the factory reset, not right away however.
The problem is you have more than 5 devices attached to your android play store account. Go into google play and remove some of your older devices.
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The problem is you have more than 5 devices attached to your android play store account. Go into google play and remove some of your older devices.
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That sounds like the most knowledgeable advice so far, but I'm not sure how to follow it. I found where my devices are listed in the play store (play.google.com => gear icon => settings) and I do have more than 5 devices (8 currently listed including the new 2014 Note) on the account, but...
- there is no way to remove them. All I can do is hide them (visibility).
- There were only 4 total that weren't hidden, including the new Note.
So, if this is an issue of more than 5 visible devices, I didn't even have 5 visible with the new tablet. If it's an issue of deleting them from the account, there is no option for that (only changing their name and a checkbox for visibility).
All of them have a "last used" date within the last couple of years. Perhaps there is a 2 year timeout?
I just did a factory reset after updating the visibilities in my Google Play account. Unfortunately, I think Google has shifted from "downloading the apps from your old devices" to "Oh, hey, we recognize that device - it was the one you didn't download any apps to, right?" and so now I'll never be able to get that factory fresh download unless someone knows the magic to make Google treat it like a brand new device.
Sorry I wasnt clear. If you make then not visible, thats the same as deleting it. If you make the note not visible, then google should see it as a new device. Are you sure you're checking the auto reload option when you are setting up the note?
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I just did a factory reset after updating the visibilities in my Google Play account. Unfortunately, I think Google has shifted from "downloading the apps from your old devices" to "Oh, hey, we recognize that device - it was the one you didn't download any apps to, right?" and so now I'll never be able to get that factory fresh download unless someone knows the magic to make Google treat it like a brand new device.
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Sorry I wasnt clear. If you make then not visible, thats the same as deleting it. If you make the note not visible, then google should see it as a new device. Are you sure you're checking the auto reload option when you are setting up the note?
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I had downloaded a bunch of apps last night (I was up to the F's by scanning the app list on my old tablet), but this was worth an experiment to try.
I had already unchecked all of the devices other than my Notes and my phone, so I unchecked the tick mark next to the new unnamed device and factory reset my 2014 Note. It came back up and managed to start installing apps without errors - woohoo!
But, it only reinstalled the apps that I had been busy downloading last night. Perhaps I mucked it up when I started downloading apps and so now it remembers my device even if it was unchecked?
I found a few apps that aren't "searchable" by going to the "All" tab in the list of "My Apps" in Google Play Store. One of them worked, but another (the Doodle Android app for the Doodle.com service) refuses to install. That may be due to the fact that they have modified the app to be "not compatible with any of your devices". The version installed on my old Note gets an error on startup, so they may have manually sabotaged it (and given that they now have a $3 pay app, I can imagine why). If I remember my device install history I seem to recall that the initial app install could install older versions of apps that aren't accessible from the Play Store (and I relied on that in the past to avoid updates that broke things when I got a new device) so it might have been able to install the version that I last installed on my old Note, but in this case it probably wouldn't have worked out of the box.
Still, at least some of the withdrawn apps are still visible in the "All apps" tab...
Probably just version conflicts. I have a lot of apps I paid for that wont show up and install on my note 10.1. Even some apps that work on my note3 wont be compatible with the 10.1. Your 'all apps' should always show you the apps you paid for and workable. As for pulled or discontinued apps, try finding the apk and side loading them.
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Probably just version conflicts. I have a lot of apps I paid for that wont show up and install on my note 10.1. Even some apps that work on my note3 wont be compatible with the 10.1. Your 'all apps' should always show you the apps you paid for and workable. As for pulled or discontinued apps, try finding the apk and side loading them.
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I assume you are referring to my example of the Doodle app that won't install?
The apps that failed to download when I did my most recent factory reset are the ones that I didn't manually install last night. It was 1:1 as far as downloading only those apps (A-F) that I had downloaded last night and none of the others. It looks like the system has permanently remembered the app set for my new device whether or not I uncheck it from my list of active Google Play devices...
I see.. I guess you'll just have to go to 'my apps' and install manually one by one. Have fun with your note. It's an amazing device!
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I see.. I guess you'll just have to go to 'my apps' and install manually one by one. Have fun with your note. It's an amazing device!
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grrr. many of my games, including crystal defenders and need for speed most wanted are telling me i have to buy the app or the device isn't authorized for this game. never had this problem before, just using my google play account as usual. advice?
Google playstore probably detected that you had too many devices using the same play account. Dont think theres a work around
I had this on my first one..
Then it filled up the memory with hardly any app installed and kept boot-looping. Same results after restoring so I returned it and bought a new one. No more issues! I didn't restore backups from Google though.
For me Method 1 worked
Here are couple of fixes for the infamous error 920 or “App could not be downloaded due to an error 920” :
Method 1:
Turn your wi-fi off
Turn your wi-fi on
Run Google Play Store and install or update the app
Method 2:
Go to settings>>Accounts>> Delete your Google account synced with Google Play.
Restart Phone and add your Google account back in the settings. Alternately, add a different Google account.
Run Google Play Store and download your app.
Method 3:
Go to settings >> Apps >> Open “All” tab
Find and click Google Play Store >>Clear Cache and Clear Data
Now from the same tab uninstall Google Play Store Updates
Restart your phone, open Google Play Store and install the app
What worked for me
1.First Remove your google account from the device
Settings -- Accounts -- Google -- (select your email account) -- Remove
2.Then clean cache and data of Google Play store
Settings -- Application Manager -- Google play store -- remove cache, remove data, force stop (in that order)
3.Then turn off for 15 seconds
4.Add your account again on Google accounts
Settings -- Accounts -- Google -- (sign in with your account)
It worked well after that!
And I tried many other options before without it working.
As quick commercial if anyone is having problems with the stupid google update that makes the tablet not access properly the SD Card, I just found an app that amazingly fixed it with one click. Only for rooted users:
NextApp SDfix
Works fast and after a reboot you can use your SD card again!
I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
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I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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I detailed what I did here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57161714&postcount=24
(Here's the post where I got the instructions from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57095260&postcount=9 )
I didn't change the directory where I sideloaded the Vending.apk, I just sideloaded it in with everything else. I don't remember if I briefly tried to install the Play store before without Google services, but that's probably why I had to adb install with the -r flag.
Before I installed Google services, some apps were working fine without them. Notably, Snapchat complained every time I brought it up, but ran fine. I would wait a bit for some more input from people... From what I've heard around here, it's just me and another guy (Aztecwarrior, the guy whose method I used in that thread) who have it working at the moment. I'd say you can sideload most applications without installing Google services.
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ is what I used to pull APKs to sideload before installing the Google services and Play store.
EDIT: I should mention that the Play store doesn't just deliver updates to apps... I've been able to completely install and manage applications through it; it works just as you'd expect it to work on any other phone for the moment. i.e., you don't need to sideload apps first to get them on the phone if you've installed all the Google stuff. Sorry for the ambiguity in my previous post.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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No background crashes -- yet -- at all. I've also enabled background ANRs in the dev options, and nothing's popped up from that either.
I don't have all access for Music, so I can't comment on that.
I just installed Hangouts and gave it a cursory launch... It loads up, enabled SMS (loaded all my conversations from the Fire Phone's messenger app), has all my contacts loaded up to start a conversation. Is there anything specific you'd want me to try?
Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Regarding default apps, everything is handled via intents (e.g. I set chrome to take all web requests)... when I enabled hangouts sms, I started getting texts to hangouts without being notified by the default app, so I think that much is configurable. The dialer, I'm not sure.
I'm in class right now (and pretty much until 9pm, and lots of homework), but I'll check hangouts dialer and default apps when I have time.
Did you root it first ,if so, did you use the same method as aztecwarrior?
No root. I used the guide that Aztec referenced, but not his exact steps. Check post #4 in this thread, the first few lines.
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I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
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I've been using the Play Store, Hangouts, and Gmail off and on the last 12 hours or so. It's been rock solid for me. No crashes. Haven't found any missing features. Maps does seem to have some issues but haven't tried navigation yet, which is what I really would use it for.
Thanks to you all for your input. I bit the bullet and ordered one before the sale ended.
Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
natter.
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Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
natter.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
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Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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As I said, checking the update status does not provide the 3.6.8 version to my phone. It is not rooted and after delivery with 3.6.0 I did nothing else to the phone but update it to 3.6.2.
Only the new GSM unlocked phones come with 3.6.8 Sounds like you got your phone before this all happend therefore you are able to downgrade and root, your one of the lucky ones. You can get a AOSP feel to your phone if you want. Not sure why your not following those guides. Heck if you don't want to root then I'll trade you phones lol.
Gmail conacts
I am transferring my contacts to the FIre phone from Android. All my phone contacts are stored in Gmail(google contacts).
Now the problem is i am not able to find a setting option which would show only contacts with Phone no.
It is showing all contacts of Gmail, but i only need contacts with phone no there.
I had the same issue in Android 2.3 or something, when Android had an option of enabling the contacts with phone no only. Later on in Android 4 they moved to keeping all contacts but at the dialup i could search for only contacts with numbers only.
Any suggestion here. May be a different launcher or app?
Thanks
I received my phone and mostly everything is working. Google voice works, and automatically places calls using my gv number. Only issue I'm having is that the hangouts doesn't send sms messages over WiFi (but will over let) and the hangouts dialer has the same issue, I can't place calls via WiFi either. Anyone else find this?
Like the title says, I've noticed since updating to 7.1.2 at least 2-3 times a day I am thrown a notification for "updating Instant Apps" but it never tells me if it was updated or installed. I tried going to Settings -> Google -> Instant Apps and it is disabled yet these apps are auto-downloading and installing in the background. I have auto-updates off on the play store but this still occurs.
Is there anything I can do to disable or at least cripple the instant apps? I'm reading the purpose of instant apps is so you can try an application without installing it, I do not want to test drive apps like Buzzfeed so however I can disable it would be great
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Like the title says, I've noticed since updating to 7.1.2 at least 2-3 times a day I am thrown a notification for "updating Instant Apps" but it never tells me if it was updated or installed. I tried going to Settings -> Google -> Instant Apps and it is disabled yet these apps are auto-downloading and installing in the background. I have auto-updates off on the play store but this still occurs.
Is there anything I can do to disable or at least cripple the instant apps? I'm reading the purpose of instant apps is so you can try an application without installing it, I do not want to test drive apps like Buzzfeed so however I can disable it would be great
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So, using Titanium Backup I couldn't find the package com.google.android.instantapps.supervisor but using a root explorer I found the application in /data/app/com.google.android.instantapps.supervisor-2
I also found saved data in /data/data/com.google.android.apps.instantapps.supervisor
I have no idea if this will prevent the service from auto-updating as it has been without permission but I know where it is now...
Update: Deleting both folders causing settings to crash when you go to Settings -> Google -> Instant apps, so it might be deleted off my phone entirely. I will update if I see the application re-install itself
Instant apps are temporary apps. So you can't uninstall them or disable it. It's a feature built into Android that is not going away. Your only option is to install a rom without Gapps. Otherwise deal with it.
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Instant apps are temporary apps. So you can't uninstall them or disable it. It's a feature built into Android that is not going away. Your only option is to install a rom without Gapps. Otherwise deal with it.
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deleting those two files seemed to have broken that feature.
My issue was that I disabled that service through settings as suggested by one of the google support pages but it would still download and install "Instant Apps" the service throughout the day, not the actual temporary apps themselves. So it's been dealt with lol
oh man, when i saw this i thought i had a virus on my phone.
especially when i couldn't find anything named "instant apps" in the app drawer
I am hoping that this will work for me as well. The first time I saw the instant apps pop up I just connected to a free wifi in Mexico and freaked out. This seriously bothers me. I uninstalled it and it came back update after update. I also will not be using any instant apps, so this is something I want to break.
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I am hoping that this will work for me as well. The first time I saw the instant apps pop up I just connected to a free wifi in Mexico and freaked out. This seriously bothers me. I uninstalled it and it came back update after update. I also will not be using any instant apps, so this is something I want to break.
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some how it was pushed back on to my phone. this is not a permanent solution...
so I'm trying to disable this through other means now and I found something interesting? I need someone with more experience to chime in as far as what these* lines* do*.. and where I found it...
so in /data/data/com.google.android.apps.instantapps.supervisor/shared_prefs/phenotypeConfigurations.xml there are these three lines:
<boolean name="Supervisor__enable_instant_apps" value="true" />
<boolean name="Supervisor__disable_url_resolution" value="false" />
<boolean name="TestFeature__enable_test" value="true" />
I flipped the value of these three entries to see if this will disable it. I find it odd that for the first line it was set for "true" when the settings say it's off. I will update again if I see this come back. My coworker had suggested that this may be built in to the Google app itself? Let's see...
so I had to unroot my phone because I forgot to log into snapchat, then re-root after, and Instant Apps was back yet again. The changes I made to the XML file persisted but the app was back.
I think I found a way to remove it entirely. I used Root Explorer, idk what other applications would work for this. So I navigated back to /data/app/com.google.android.instantapps.supervisor-1 and I clicked the base.apk and I had an option to uninstall, I did this then rebooted my phone to see if reboots are why it fixes itself except the entry for Instant Apps has been removed from settings. This appears to permanently remove this feature.
every time I think I fix this it keeps coming back lol, I finally called Google Support and this is the first they are hearing of it. The application re-installed itself at 430-some Mountain Time on it's own, other times it re-installs upon reboot. I'm going to find a way to cripple it if google cant
I recommend calling support to let them know that Instant Apps is enabled even though the switch says it is disabled.
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every time I think I fix this it keeps coming back lol, I finally called Google Support and this is the first they are hearing of it. The application re-installed itself at 430-some Mountain Time on it's own, other times it re-installs upon reboot. I'm going to find a way to cripple it if google cant
I recommend calling support to let them know that Instant Apps is enabled even though the switch says it is disabled.
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I have the same annoyances, "Installig Instant apps" notification appears randomly during the last month, and reading in the logcat they are updates/patches to the new feature, managed by finsky app (Play Store). The most scaring thing is that one time it appeared also during mobile data connection, which is not acceptable (and 800kb background data from Play Store). Google is being too aggressive with it. Why not simply integrate it and update it along with Play Services like the other 1000 google APIs ? !on WIFI!
Thank you for your tests, unfortunately the update process seems to be triggered by Google Play services itself or by Google play store.
I searched for related alarms/wakelocks in Amplify and could only found one wakelock coming from com.google.android.apps.instantapps.supervisor itself: .ExperimentUpdateService. I decided to keep it as this probably isn't the trigger.
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I have the same annoyances, "Installig Instant apps" notification appears randomly during the last month, and reading in the logcat they are updates/patches to the new feature, managed by finsky app (Play Store). The most scaring thing is that one time it appeared also during mobile data connection, which is not acceptable (and 800kb background data from Play Store). Google is being too aggressive with it. Why not simply integrate it and update it along with Play Services like the other 1000 google APIs ? !on WIFI!
Thank you for your tests, unfortunately the update process seems to be triggered by Google Play services itself or by Google play store.
I searched for related alarms/wakelocks in Amplify and could only found one wakelock coming from com.google.android.apps.instantapps.supervisor itself: .ExperimentUpdateService. I decided to keep it as this probably isn't the trigger.
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yeah that's now my only worrisome complaint is that it ignores the play store settings and will download over any network connection. You can try submitting feedback through settings and suggest they fix this part so that it updates as you said. Thanks for the additional info, I'll try disabling that and report back if it makes any difference. I doubt that's the source of the problem though so I uninstall the apk so something else must be initiating it.
Thank you guys for this thread! I have the regular Pixel and have been seeing this happen... "Instant Apps" was disabled but somehow still updating either itself or something else, and I wondered if there was an additional switch somewhere to disable it. Looks like the answer is no. ?
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So I noticed every time the play store found an update, magically Instant Apps was back. I began to notice that this may be a service built into Play Store and not the Google app itself. So I had an idea, I went into Settings for Android and turned off background data for Play services. Obviously this will affect quite a bit, but honestly I am at that point from fighting this feature that I'd gladly give that up. So far after 2 days I have not seen the application re-install itself. It has been more permanent that the other solutions I've had so far.
There's an article from XDA in Analysis and Opinion talking about Instant Apps and Play Store 7.8.15, apparently this issue is affecting people all the way down to the Samsung S5... although people are hesistant to believe this issue exists for whatever reason.
You can cripple it by restricting its access to internet via firewall. Unfortunately this method also drives up battery consumption as the firewall does jujitsu with "Google Play services for Instant Apps" - I am actively fantasizing about taking my baby sledge to this thing and going back to a "dumb"-phone that doesn't have all this drama constantly! I'm using an S5 right now. This is definitely a google thing. They have a similar self-install-without-asking "feature" on windows via their chrome browser. Just look up "SwReporter" in that program's directory. It self-populates with an executable as you use chrome normally and there is no option in the program for it to not do that. You can safely make a shortcut to that directory and empty it out regularly to restrict its functionality which is presumably for keeping an eye on you. I am also trying an alternate method of changing security to prevent write access to that directory. I have no idea how to do that on an unrooted android. Any ideas? And does anybody know how to cripple "instant apps" malware/spyware backdoor "feature" on an unrooted device without eating battery like crazy?
Today I noticed that Instant Apps was installing without my permission. When I clicked on that notification, it brought me to the Google Play Store. (In Google Play Store, I have auto updates disabled.) I have an unrooted Galaxy Note 4 and I can't even find the settings for Instant Apps under the Google settings. Why aren't the settings there? I found the app in the Apps settings called "Google Play services for Instant Apps" (thank you G1A). I cleared it's the cache and data and then uninstalled it. So I'm assuming it will not come back but you never know.
EDIT: Well the "Google Play services for Instant Apps" reinstalled itself AGAIN WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. Getting sick of tired of Google's POMPOUS business ethics.
If it reinstalled itself.... then his would require root privileges in order to disable.
yeah this issue is annoying, it seems to initiate the download upon every reboot and each time it checks the play store for updates for any of your apps.
I found a way to disable it but it required freezing the app through Titanium Backup. I have NO CLUE why I couldn't see Instant Apps before in this list but it is listed as "Google Play Services for Instant Apps." It does not re-install or try to even download, does not show in Settings under Google, but if you look at the app itself in settings you will see it does still run. I am not sure to what extent but yeeeaahhh at least it doesnt seem like it can run anything
No problem As an update, changing security permissions (specifically for writing) for chrome's target folder Definitely (in windows 10) serves as an effective measure to blockade its ability to regenerate itself. This same method also works for microsoft edge located in the C-Windows-SystemApps folder. I presume that the programming methods would be analogous with android on google's end. Anybody know how to restrict write access to a folder on android? So long as it checks for a folder existing and it does exist (multi-decade programming approach) then it attempts to write to that folder. However, because it's already running in stealth mode (aka background) then it will never show an error message when it fails to execute, and it won't report back either, as that functionality depends on the contents of the targeted folder it is denied access to. It should be effectively crippled without excessive CPU consumption if you can just restrict its ability to write to the default folder that it installs itself in. Any ideas how to execute this kind of blockade?
UPDATE: As a way to cripple not Instant Apps specifically, but an entire host of functionality on the android platform, something called "Power Saving Mode" seems to knock out a key background runtime required for this pest to run. Unfortunately it doesn't let you pick and choose what it shuts off, so other useful apps may lose their functionality too. Post if anybody finds a more app-specific method!
Does this crap have its own separate package? If so, you could uninstall it and make a dummy APK having the same package name. This could prevent "updates" due to signing key conflicts, but might also break things...
My phone has been wonky this week. Apps won't update, and "calendaring" services and apps not kicking off.
Blue light filter scheduled in the OS doesn't run at night now, or disable in the morning when it should.
Apps with reminders come in way late or not at all. Appointments for work alert multiple times for same event, even though dismissed. Date and time is correct on the phone.
If I reboot, the missed reminders flood in immediately.
Txt messages just sit waiting to be sent, reboot, send out. No differenence if on wifi or Cellular.
Force close the app and reopen or reboot phone, sometimes drafted messages still present and send, other times the draft is just gone.
I have tried optimized and High Performance battery modes, no difference.
Apps won't update either (22 waiting), sometimes download to 99% and just spin until I reboot, or fully download, then just sit there.
If I let the phone sit idle, notification will come up that 5 apps have updated, go to the Play Store and those same apps still show as needing to updated or being processed. Reboot, then they show updated.
I have cleared cache and storage data for the Play Store and Google Play Services, no change.
System usually has around 4.5GB Ram available. Earlier in the week I could run the device optimizer, and that would clear things up for a little bit.
Did get the security update from AT&T on Nov 1st, things were running fine before that.
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Is this an OS issue?
Could a bad SIM cause this?
Do I have a bad phone?
I really don't want to have to factory reset the phone, just got it 3 weeks ago, any suggestions?
Factory reset is definitely the way to go. If you use a password manager, it's really not a big deal. Just make sure you backup anything not in the cloud. Short of that, start deleting apps, newest to oldest installed it updated, in hopes you find the culprit.
One thought though... if you installed the Samsung Labs stuff, try removing that first. Those seem a bit not ready for prime time.
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Factory reset is definitely the way to go. If you use a password manager, it's really not a big deal. Just make sure you backup anything not in the cloud. Short of that, start deleting apps, newest to oldest installed it updated, in hopes you find the culprit.
One thought though... if you installed the Samsung Labs stuff, try removing that first. Those seem a bit not ready for prime time.
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I have deleted all apps from this past week and don't have anything from Samsung past stock apps.
I do have everything backed up in the cloud including my 2FA/MFA authentication is backed up except 1 can't be, so that will be a manual reset.
Appreciate the reply, figured the reset is where I'm headed, just thought I would throw it out there.
Well this is beyond frustrating.
Reset to factory, phone was fine until I restored settings, then I was right back to what was happening before.
Reset phone again, only restored content, no apps or settings.
I checked Google Play and Samsung Store for updates, ran what was available.
Things were going well, I would install a few apps, configure with Logins, continue forward.
I got a message there was an update, Samsung Experience Service and it Updated automatically, then everything started again, first that no further apps will install.
I Uninstalled Samsung Experience, but it only Uninstalled the update. I tried to install another app after this, not successful, even after a reboot.
I tried to reinstall the Samsung Experience from Play Store, would not complete.
Ran the app update from the Galaxy store successfully. Rebooted phone, still no other apps will install from Google Play.
I can install from Galaxy Store without issue, but not all of my apps are available there.
Even if I reset again, that update will come into play
So frustrated right now how much time I have wasted for this phone to be rendered undependable so quickly.
I think I might try creating a new Samsung account and see if that helps.
I read many issues with restoring. Try to factory reset it without restoring anything, and setup the phone, apps, and downloading everything manually to notice if it's helps.
I ended up taking the phone into an authorized Samsung repair shop. They flashed the phone with new OS with cumulative updates. Phone has been fine since.
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I ended up taking the phone into an authorized Samsung repair shop. They flashed the phone with new OS with cumulative updates. Phone has been fine since.
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Firstly,
i only saw/ read your above post (thread) now.
I'm glad you managed to sort your annoying issue out.!
What you experience, by factory resetting etc and issue still
persisted , i also experience 2 x with my older devices.
(Think it was note 5 and/or my Note 8).
Can't exactly remember issues i had, think one issue, was my Bluetooth quick setting icon kept on disappearing in the Quick toggles, and something else.
( Not similar issues , like you experienced )
Also only resolved it , by flashing relevant official stock Rom again (clean install etc.) as factory resetting failed to fix it.
Point /lesson here, is that a factory reset, does not always
help...?
Good luck.