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Is it still worth buying a G3?

Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my Nexus 4 to LG G3.
I dont want to spend a lot of cash on cell phones, so considering the prices being reduced, is G3 still a good option? The phones looks absolutely amazing.

the G3 is definitely a very good option especially with the really high quality case with the cover that you can usually get bundled with it. Overall very good phone and I highly recommend it.
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Not to mention it's one of the cheapest flagships available, and the camera is great. I bought a Nexus 6, but returned it 24 hours later, there are simply too many features that I immediately knew I would miss on my G3, and the G3 screen was light years better.

Love my G3 had it for a few days now and its great plus when more roms dtart to come out i feel itll be perfect ??
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Great phone. Get a spare battery and never worry about battery life!

Just picked up the G3 on AT&T a few days ago after dropping and destroying my Nexus 4. So far its been great. Definitely an upgrade in the screen, camera, and battery department. The battery has been amazing so far plus I picked up a spare battery kit so now I'm never plugged into the wall...something I was used to doing on a daily basis with my N4. My only dilemna with this phone is that it's a carrier branded phone and not stock android. Luckily it's rootable thanks to some awesome devs so removing AT&T bloat is not an issue. As for not being stock android, LG's skin is pretty light with some added features that I actual welcome. A few features that have stood out to me so far are the ability to hide the nav buttons on a per app basis(thanks LG), the unintrusive popup for incoming calls, and doubletap2wake and sleep. Coming from someone in the same situation I would say do it.

imfedup19 said:
Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my Nexus 4 to LG G3.
I dont want to spend a lot of cash on cell phones, so considering the prices being reduced, is G3 still a good option? The phones looks absolutely amazing.
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I did the move and its destroys the n4 in every aspect....
However i am very unsatisfied with lgui being very laggy battery isnt the best of all either camera is actually pretty good speakers are fair also but if i could i would go with the htc one m8 in a heartbeat ! Better looking phone better software better speaker etc...
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Absolutely a great buy! I love mine! I recommend it to anyone looking for a skinned Android. The hardware is great in every way. The screen it top quality, the battery is good, the camera is really good, one of the phones with the most RAM, a up to date processor, and really good build quality considering it is plastic. The only one single hardware issue I have with it is the speaker being on the back. Don't get me wrong, it is a really good speaker. But with the speaker being on the back instead of the bottom or front, it can easily get muffled when laying on it's back. Specifically when it i laying on it's back on a soft surface like a bed. But like I said its still a really good speaker for a back speaker. It is just a very well rounded phone.

Amazing battery life, superb laser focus camera, 2k display consistent dev support. Need I say more?

I had samsung s4 s5 sony z2 and z3 and nexus 5 and htc m8 and iphone 6 for me g3 was the best ..camera very good and the screen awesome and the battery not bad it gives me 5 hours sot.. I didnt try n6 so i cant tell you which one is better

Short answer: Yes
Longer yes: Yes, after dealing with the Nokia Lumia 930, 5 or 6 (now I can't remember) defective Xperia Z2, I'm now on the G3. Very good phone. Battery life FAR Superior than the Lumia, and just right below the Z2. Considering it's handling a larger screen and a higher pixel screen, I'd say it's awesome. I am a light user with about 1-2 hours of SOT a day and I go home with 65-70% every day. So it can get me through a day SOOOOO easily! Highly recommended. Camera is great, I have the 32GB/3GB version and I don't have lags. But as I mentioned before, I'm a light user. I only use my phone for pictures, bittorrent sync (folders between desktops and such), and messaging (Line, Whatsapp, Email, Forums). That's it. I know, the device is overkill for my usage, but still! I'm very happy . I'd recommend it over any other phone. The only device I could possibly recommend more is the Nexus 6 or the Note 4. I don't like Samsung's cartoony UI. And the N6 is REALLY expensive! It's 700 euros while the G3 was 450 euros when I got it. So, I can't complain!

Akhayev said:
I had samsung s4 s5 sony z2 and z3 and nexus 5 and htc m8 and iphone 6 for me g3 was the best ..camera very good and the screen awesome and the battery not bad it gives me 5 hours sot.. I didnt try n6 so i cant tell you which one is better
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Do you own a mobile shop ? Well i think giving one phone out of all the above mentioned, wont make much of a difference to u ..

Does 32 gb make a difference compared to the 16gb, keeping in mind the extra 1gb ram in 32 gb version? Also the quick circle case - is this a must have accessory for G3?

Yeah!! I just bought my g3 two weeks ago, i had a oneplus before i purchased this. It feels similar to the 1+ but with the g3 the screen is better, it has a removable battery, micro sd slot and its cheap compared to some of the other flagships. Id recommend getting it
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Does 32 gb make a difference compared to the 16gb, keeping in mind the extra 1gb ram in 32 gb version? Also the quick circle case - is this a must have accessory for G3?
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In the benchmarks the difference is very tiny. My mate has a 16gb version with 2gb and compared to my 32gb, and when youre actually using the phones side by side the different isnt even noticeable. The 16gb is also at least £30 cheaper here in the uk.

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The phone is awesome! It's as powerful (and beautiful) as phones much more expensive than this. It's a shame that AOSP is not well supported yet, but the power and performance of AOSP can be acheived on LG's own rom if you know how to tweak android, both in performance and looks.
This is the best phone ever and I came from Nexus 5

ikz1 said:
In the benchmarks the difference is very tiny. My mate has a 16gb version with 2gb and compared to my 32gb, and when youre actually using the phones side by side the different isnt even noticeable. The 16gb is also at least £30 cheaper here in the uk.
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I believe the biggest difference is when you multitask - redraws on the screen, how many apps can be left open without having to hibernate them (the system of course), wtc.
Regardless, I believe 3GB ram will future-proof it as much as possible. It has a good camera, 3GB of RAM in my version, as well as a nice screen. I think it will be a relevant phone for at least a year or two. But as with everything in the tech world... These things get outdated rather quickly.
If you're worried about buying a device that would last you for years and years (with updates I mean), maybe the Nexus 6 would be best as it will be covered for a WHILE by Google. It's absolutely the most advanced HW (processor, memory, screen) so it will be updated for a while!

If you want a G3 now, get it right now. Thanks to the open sourcing efforts of someone, LG's likely to close down the bootloader exploit in the next couple of days.
Unless you like your freedom restricted, in which case, buy a G3 whenever you want.

A very good buy the only phone in my opinion would be the note 4 to actually consider, with that said it also is the easiest root and boot right now with great support from the developers, hands down top three phone until next summer when we'll be asking each other the same question.

The upgrade from the Nexus 4 to the G3 is worth it in every way. I've had my G3 for several months now and it is a great phone.

Yes
Yes I would definitely recommend this phone for a number of reasons:
Overall screen size
Highest % of front face used by screen
4K display
Battery life (I dont do gaming)
Cannot recommend more highly
However, at the end of the day each phone has its advantages and plus points and drawbacks and you need to align your requirements with these stregnths.

LG G3 or Moto X 2nd Gen - which will I be happier with?

Hey so been looking around quite a bit at different phones and I think LG G3 appears to be a winner on paper. For phones which I can get for ~free with my AT&T upgrade (which knocks out the Note 4, but includes Moto X 2nd gen, galaxy S4) it has the biggest screen at 5.5" and the biggest battery at 3,000 mah, expandable memory (which the Moto X lacks), the back is removable to replace the battery/sim/etc (Moto X lacks), and has 3 gb of ram. However, I keep reading various reviews, both by critics and on Amazon, and people seem in agreement that the Moto X offers a better experience to the user than the LG G3. They say the G3 is buggy and bloated, the moto x is vanilla android and runs faster for it, the moto x screen is a better picture with the amoled feature, the battery lasts longer in the moto x because the screen does not draw as much power, and one reviewer even states that the G3 performs WORSE on benchmarks than the G2 . I'm curious what your all experience has been? Any insights or thoughts to share to help with this decision? I want to like the G3 better for a variety of reasons, but also don't want to ignore common experience. (well actually I'd like to get the Xperia Z3 for the 20 mp camera, but damn it only has a 5.2" screen, and it doesn't even seem to be sold for AT&T anywhere that I can find).
Thanks in advance!

I will try to give you an honest review , YES the phone is good on paper BUT on daily use is bad , its terrible , you read CPU with 2.5 Ghz woooow , BUT the phone gets hot in 5 minutes and forget about those Ghz , youll get like 1.2 to 1.5 Ghz , because of the 2k screen that gets too hot , battery drains like a 2013 smartphone , snapdragon 801 is a big no no on 2k screen
Camera is bad compared with a Sony Z2....
talking about the LG G2 if it weren't the micro-SD , the removable battery and the camera , it would be a downgrade
i consider the LG G2 better ....better battery life , gaming experience ....
If your choice depends on the price i would consider a sony xperia Z2 , the Lg G3 is not that bad , but having read dozens of persons regretting the buy.....
I would definitely buy this phone(LG G3) if the price were between 200 and 250$ , nothing more
THE BIGGEST CON IS THE SILLY 2K screen , you can lower the resolution but those pixels are still alive .....
this G3 model is a complete headache.....:crying: , i regret not buying the Z2
PD: my english is not good k

kiki0 said:
I will try to give you an honest review , YES the phone is good on paper BUT on daily use is bad , its terrible , you read CPU with 2.5 Ghz woooow , BUT the phone gets hot in 5 minutes and forget about those Ghz , youll get like 1.2 to 1.5 Ghz , because of the 2k screen that gets too hot , battery drains like a 2013 smartphone , snapdragon 801 is a big no no on 2k screen
Camera is bad compared with a Sony Z2....
talking about the LG G2 if it weren't the micro-SD , the removable battery and the camera , it would be a downgrade
i consider the LG G2 better ....better battery life , gaming experience ....
If your choice depends on the price i would consider a sony xperia Z2 , the Lg G3 is not that bad , but having read dozens of persons regretting the buy.....
I would definitely buy this phone(LG G3) if the price were between 200 and 250$ , nothing more
THE BIGGEST CON IS THE SILLY 2K screen , you can lower the resolution but those pixels are still alive .....
this G3 model is a complete headache.....:crying: , i regret not buying the Z2
PD: my english is not good k
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Sell your G3 and buy another phone mate, we allready got wining noobs in stock

gee2012 said:
Sell your G3 and buy another phone mate, we allready got wining noobs in stock
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you call me noob , and you have a LG G3 too....the irony in your fanboyism ,haha

kiki0 said:
you call me noob , and you have a LG G3 too....the irony in your fanboyism ,haha
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I`am not fanboy of anything realy. Whats wrong is wrong, i agree with the thermal throttling making the phone slower at times. you can however flash a custom rom or kernel to increase the threashold. The camera is great imo and the software is a joy to use compared to Samsung for instance. You`re opinion is a bit too negative about the phone imo. Overall its a good phone and price/quality ratio is excellent. Just my 2 cents

gee2012 said:
I`am not fanboy of anything realy. Whats wrong is wrong, i agree with the thermal throttling making the phone slower at times. you can however flash a custom rom or kernel to increase the threashold. The camera is great imo and the software is a joy to use compared to Samsung for instance. You`re opinion is a bit too negative about the phone imo. Overall its a good phone and price/quality ratio is excellent. Just my 2 cents
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Agreed. It sounds like he got a dud or was expecting too much. My phone has never overheated and I can go at least 24 hours without recharging. If I pushed the battery all the way down to 0%, I could probably go 30-36 hours. As most people have the ability to charge their phone every day, going 24 hours is good enough.
The camera on the phone is great as well as the button placement and double tap to wake/sleep. Paired with G3 Tweaksbox and the user experience is delightful.
I've never used the Moto X 2014 but the G3 is by no means a bad phone. One of the best of 2014 IMO.
A few reasons I love this phone:
2k screen
Removable battery
microSD support
Excellent camera
One of the highest screen to body ratios on any phone currently out
Great button placement
Loud speaker

Regarding the thermal throttling and other performance issues, I'm curious, is this still a problem or any better if you go through and debloat the phone (have seen various guides around that look pretty straightforward). Or is it actually more related to the screen size and pixels?
On that note, how does the quality of the screen display compare between the lg g3 (an IPS display right?) And an amoled display like the moto x or galaxy series? Is one a higher picture quality in terms of color, etc?

One of my best friends owns a moto x 2nd gen. I must say it is a beauty, and the feel in the hand is amazing, it screams quality. It has one front facing speaker which is good. Display is a bit on the warmer side, it looks nice and "contrasty", although i'm not a fan of Amoled displays. Oh, and it is very very snappy. Nearly stock android and quick updates is also always a plus. My friend praises it's battery life even though on paper it is nothing special, but it looks like the software is optimized well. As long as you're not a heavy gamer it should easily get you through a day.
I have the 32/3GB G3, i came from a nexus 5. I already mentioned this somewhere around here, it's not as smooth as a nexus 5 (or moto x 2014), but i like some of the added functionality and i can live with the occasional microlags. The speaker is powerful, even though it is firing backwards. The display is ok, i would'nt say it's gorgeous as some say around here, but it's also not bad as others do.
Before i got my G3 i was worried about overheating issues that i read about online, and i have to say, for now i haven't faced this issue (maybe because it's winter and temp. is low, which of course does not count for temp. indoors)
Low thermal throttling threshold is not only a G3 thing, it's also well known on nexus 4 & 5 (both made by LG).
I think lollipop still needs a lot of optimizing (including for nexus devices), and i believe the G3 can only perform better in the future. Although, IMO it will never be as smooth as something running (nearly) stock android.
Oh, and battery life on my G3 is amazing. Over 5h of screen on on a full day uptime. (With my usage pattern of course). Add to all that microSD expansion option, and removable battery -if you're into that or need extra juice. The camera is also a plus on the G3's side.
No one can make the decision instead of you. It's your call. You have to add the + and - of both, and see what suits you best.
My advice is, if you're asking for the better software experience, are not afraid of burn-in on an amoled display and don't need a removable battery/ expandable storage, then go with the Moto X 2014.

rayiskon said:
No one can make the decision instead of you. It's your call. You have to add the + and - of both, and see what suits you best.
My advice is, if you're asking for the better software experience, are not afraid of burn-in on an amoled display and don't need a removable battery/ expandable storage, then go with the Moto X 2014.
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Yea you are exactly right. I think it is bothersome that the Moto X does not provide for expandable storage nor battery replacement. But the user experience is important; don't want glitches and hangs. Though that being said, I'm currently using a Galaxy S3 with the unofficial Omni rom port and their kernel, and while it does have some glitches and hang ups it doesn't bother me too much, so I imagine the LG G3 would perform much more smoothly, especially if the Stock rom is in operation rather than a custom port.
Have you tried any of the debloating? (lots of tutorials, here's the one I bookmarked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/guide-how-to-remove-bloatware-att-lg-g3-t2822501)
I'm curious if that would not make the OS feel more "snappy" and "vanilla android" as people keep praising the Moto X for. If that were the case then hands down I would go for the G3 with the removable battery, expandable memory, larger sccreen, etc.
Side note - even though the Moto X does not have a removable back, I would assume there is still a way to exchange the sim easily for when traveling abroad, etc?

bnook said:
Yea you are exactly right. I think it is bothersome that the Moto X does not provide for expandable storage nor battery replacement. But the user experience is important; don't want glitches and hangs. Though that being said, I'm currently using a Galaxy S3 with the unofficial Omni rom port and their kernel, and while it does have some glitches and hang ups it doesn't bother me too much, so I imagine the LG G3 would perform much more smoothly, especially if the Stock rom is in operation rather than a custom port.
Have you tried any of the debloating? (lots of tutorials, here's the one I bookmarked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/guide-how-to-remove-bloatware-att-lg-g3-t2822501)
I'm curious if that would not make the OS feel more "snappy" and "vanilla android" as people keep praising the Moto X for. If that were the case then hands down I would go for the G3 with the removable battery, expandable memory, larger sccreen, etc.
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The G3 is definitely quicker than the S3 (i had one for 3-4 months back in the day).
As for "debloating", don't take any guide word for word, tastes differ, and there are things you probably wouldn't want to move/delete. I used to "debloat" my nexuses by deleting all Google crap that is found in the playstore, so removing from /system and installing on /data, and then greenify what i want to greenify, and even on a nexus you would see a lil boost in battery and lower RAM usage. So, yeah, removing anything form /system on a G3 should help a bit performance wise, to what extent? i'm not sure. My G3 is full stock and unrooted for the moment, and as i said, i'm not bothered by the occasional lil hickups here and there.
Side note - even though the Moto X does not have a removable back, I would assume there is still a way to exchange the sim easily for when traveling abroad, etc?
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not sure, you should check with your carrier, but if you buy it from Moto directly you do get the lil pin to eject the sim (like the one iphones and many unibody android phones use)

Just saw this, apparently I can get the lg g3 for $0.01 from amazon and they will give me $100 gift card! Hmm, probably will go with being paid $99.99 to take lg g3 over moto x!
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/05/deal-buy-an-att-lg-g3-from-amazon-for-cheap-get-100-gift-card/

Best Mid-ranger at this moment

Im looking to change my moto X 2013. Im on a mental fight beetwen the Moto X play, Zenfone 2 and Mi4C. I have some questions, how is the problem on the battery? How do you feel you device? Last you all day? And the camera I Know os good but not as moto X. On performance the intele is much different to the 615 or 808? Thanks

Waycloud said:
Im looking to change my moto X 2013. Im on a mental fight beetwen the Moto X play, Zenfone 2 and Mi4C. I have some questions, how is the problem on the battery? How do you feel you device? Last you all day? And the camera I Know os good but not as moto X. On performance the intele is much different to the 615 or 808? Thanks
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Hey there!
I've been using ZenFone 2 since 4th August and I have had a great experience with it.
1) Battery: People say that the phone has a bad battery backup but I fail to see why they say so. The phone lasts me a full 16 hour day with data/Wi-Fi and maybe a total of 2 hours of gaming (Minecraft, Bombsquad)
2) Charging: The quickcharge feature is very useful. It charges at approx 1.5%/min, which is pretty good for me. I have a habit of carrying my charger with me, and a couple of short 10 mins charges prove to be very useful. Although it must be noted that the phone heats up pretty much (not un-holdable) while quickcharging.
3) Performance: Almost 2 months. No lag. Not even once. I have tested games like GTA San Andreas at highest possible graphics and it runs smoothly. (After one update you need to switch the battery mode to "Performace" to enjoy few games without lag). And the 4GB of RAM make multitasking feel like a breeze. (There's a con too, read on).
4) Camera: I rarely click photos, so it wasn't a consideration for me while buying the phone. The camera is par, nothing great, nothing pathetic. The front camera follows pretty much the same suit.
5) UI/OS: The biggest con. ZenUI is bloated with so many apps, some useful, some not so much. The useful ones include an in-built Greenify (called Auto-start manager), and an app which lets you change the colour temperature of the screen (called Splendid). But the whole UI is far from stock Android. The system takes up 1.3GB of RAM on an average (started with only 700-800MB, but as the updates kept coming, the system became even more of a RAM hog), leaving you with a usable of around 2.5GB RAM. On the bright side, updates are pretty frequent, but it will never be as up-to-date as Moto X Play will, since Moto is literally stock android. Android Marshmallow (6.0) has released and we haven't even gotten 5.1.
There you go, I hope it helped!

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Hey there!
I've been using ZenFone 2 since 4th August and I have had a great experience with it.
1) Battery: People say that the phone has a bad battery backup but I fail to see why they say so. The phone lasts me a full 16 hour day with data/Wi-Fi and maybe a total of 2 hours of gaming (Minecraft, Bombsquad)
2) Charging: The quickcharge feature is very useful. It charges at approx 1.5%/min, which is pretty good for me. I have a habit of carrying my charger with me, and a couple of short 10 mins charges prove to be very useful. Although it must be noted that the phone heats up pretty much (not un-holdable) while quickcharging.
3) Performance: Almost 2 months. No lag. Not even once. I have tested games like GTA San Andreas at highest possible graphics and it runs smoothly. (After one update you need to switch the battery mode to "Performace" to enjoy few games without lag). And the 4GB of RAM make multitasking feel like a breeze. (There's a con too, read on).
4) Camera: I rarely click photos, so it wasn't a consideration for me while buying the phone. The camera is par, nothing great, nothing pathetic. The front camera follows pretty much the same suit.
5) UI/OS: The biggest con. ZenUI is bloated with so many apps, some useful, some not so much. The useful ones include an in-built Greenify (called Auto-start manager), and an app which lets you change the colour temperature of the screen (called Splendid). But the whole UI is far from stock Android. The system takes up 1.3GB of RAM on an average (started with only 700-800MB, but as the updates kept coming, the system became even more of a RAM hog), leaving you with a usable of around 2.5GB RAM. On the bright side, updates are pretty frequent, but it will never be as up-to-date as Moto X Play will, since Moto is literally stock android. Android Marshmallow (6.0) has released and we haven't even gotten 5.1.
There you go, I hope it helped!
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Thank you that help me a lot, on the camera I feel that the X play win and battery too. But Im more sure to buy the Zenfone because the performance.

I own the Zenfone 2 (WWW, 4GB) for 3 weeks, now.
It's an very good phone. Battery life is ok for me. Root & Xposed works (important for me),
Because I'm not a gamer and the other "normal life" performance is great I wouldn't call it a Mid-ranger. For me it in the lower part of High-range.

What to buy?

Hey guys,
I just wanted to ask if you could help me decide which phone to get for Christmas.
I am currently owning a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 (Mtk) but the lack of development is driving me crazy. It's not a bad phone at all but still sticking to Android 5.0 or 5.1 in times of Android 7.0 is a nightmare for me who loves to have the newest OS for testing.
So my question would be: what phone should I buy with a Budget of maybe 400-450€. Is the oneplus 3 the phone to go with in terms of futureproof Updates or should I go for the Nexus 6p which apparently has a better Screen but only has the SD810 ? What would you buy? Reasons?
Thanks in advance

I was torn between the two a few weeks ago but went for the OP3 due to its size. :angel:
The 6P is just too big at the end of the day. :crying:
Its a really difficult future to predict. On one hand, you should defiantly go for the 6P due to its instant updates. On the other hand, Google may lessen there support for Nexus devices as there focus has changed with the Pixel. The 3GB of RAM and SD810 is also concerning.
The OP3 is a fantastic phone with blistering performance. If you buy this, you do so accepting that you will always be at least 6 months behind what is happening on the 6P. 2 years down the line however, the tables may turn due to the superior hardware of the OP3.
If you change your phone often, maybe the 6P is the way to go. If you don't, the OP3 is probably a better bet.

Thanks for your answer.
Maybe if the rumors are true Oneplus will present the 3+ till the end of the Year and this will lower the price of the 3, but I guess I will go for this phone as its Hardware in comparison to its price is unbeatable and I think the big Community is making the lack of instant Updates good.
Hope to see a fully working CM14 here soon

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Thanks for your answer.
Maybe if the rumors are true Oneplus will present the 3+ till the end of the Year and this will lower the price of the 3, but I guess I will go for this phone as its Hardware in comparison to its price is unbeatable and I think the big Community is making the lack of instant Updates good.
Hope to see a fully working CM14 here soon
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Good call Olli,
I'd go for the current OP3 as the OLED screen is really nice and would be better than an LCD especially if they don't upgrade the battery.

Masteryates said:
Good call Olli,
I'd go for the current OP3 as the OLED screen is really nice and would be better than an LCD especially if they don't upgrade the battery.
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That's true even when they would Upgrade to SD821 and 2k Display. Because HD looks just as good.

Those rumors are already confirmed by Carl Pei to be false.
There won't be "refresh" version of OP3, next OP phone will be OP4.
Also OP will stick with AMOLED, they're done with LCD.
About your dilemma: I'd say OP3 is the best option in this price range. Community support is as good as for Nexuses and soon this will matter a lot more than official support.
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OnePlus 3 has better performance in all areas, Nexus 6P takes better pictures (particularly in low light)

If you must have Nougat now, go with the nexus. I very much doubt there's a new OnePlus device due any time soon, and even if there was I don't think a significant price cut is on the cards (margins where thin enough to require a £20 rise at the beginning of sterlings collapse).

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OnePlus 3 has better performance in all areas, Nexus 6P takes better pictures (particularly in low light)
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Is the OP3 performance better than the 6P or is it better than the 6P just because you can leave loads of apps in RAM and therefore have 0 launch time on the OP3?
It does beg the question.......What would a device be like with a SD410 and 16GB RAM? The slow SD410 may not seem slow as all apps could be left in RAM. The SD410 is also excellent when it comes to battery life.

Masteryates said:
Is the OP3 performance better than the 6P or is it better than the 6P just because you can leave loads of apps in RAM and therefore have 0 launch time on the OP3?
It does beg the question.......What would a device be like with a SD410 and 16GB RAM? The slow SD410 may not seem slow as all apps could be left in RAM. The SD410 is also excellent when it comes to battery life.
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I'm not even taking RAM and app re drawing into account. The OnePlus 3 is noticeably faster (especially the camera app)

I think i'll go with the OP3 as its more futureproof in my Eyes thank you all

Masteryates said:
Is the OP3 performance better than the 6P or is it better than the 6P just because you can leave loads of apps in RAM and therefore have 0 launch time on the OP3?
It does beg the question.......What would a device be like with a SD410 and 16GB RAM? The slow SD410 may not seem slow as all apps could be left in RAM. The SD410 is also excellent when it comes to battery life.
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I have seen speed test OP3 VS 6P and the OP3 smokes the 6P. This is when you are loading apps initially.

Changing from a LG G3, worth it ?

Hi all
I still have, after almost 2,5 years my LG G3 (D855) which now failsto recognize any SIM card.
I guess a repair probably isn't worth it.
I know the P2 will not be an upgrade (or much of it) from a CPU/GPU point of view but I admit I play rarely and I'm much more annoyed by battery being depleted at tre end of the day.
In that sense the P2 would be a huge upgrade to me.
But otherwise, is it worth it? a is Samsung A5 2016 a better option all around ?
Thanks !

If you want a phone with a battery life of 2-3days in normal use , yes go for it.
The added bonus is its a damn good phone for the money as well.

I had a G3 too, and you're right. Not an upgrade from the 801 flagship of 2014. But you do get is great processor, no heating (which plagued G3), and fantastic power efficiency. Top it up with super amoled and massive battery, you can't go wrong with the p2.
As for the A5, though it's a Samsung, don't think the 615 processor has good history in heat management.
Believe me you won't regret the P2. 'Almost' an upgrade from G3, that too now with nougat to boot. Ya, barring camera

Everything in P2 is better compared to G3, even the cpu.
Did you said A5 (2016)?? It's only 2gb ram, 2900mah and 5.2".. Better look at the a9 pro 5000mah,4gb RAM and 6" but $100 more. Lenovo P2 is a unique combination of battery, specs, design and support community.

I "upgraded" from a G4 that wouldn't even last me through a day of medium usage anymore. Now I get around 2 days. Definitely worth it
I don't even really miss root or custom roms at this point.

There are thousands of custom roms for P2 too. Also it can play even the high end games just fine, it's just that the graphics are reduced and an occasional stuttering may appear.

Thanks to all.
I was looking at the A5 'cos no A9/A7 here in Belgium or around and it has good battery.
I'll get the P2, I'm just looking at screen protectors and cases I can get from Amazon.
Thanks again...

Hey just want to know if you made the switch to the P2? Looking to upgrade my lg g3 to something that can play games better under £200 and P2 is what im looking at. Also the Battery on the G3 is super bad.

Had the G3 for a year hated every minute of it, recently purchased p2 best thing I did and didn't cost me a great deal.

3 year old G3 still going strong but my p2 is a better phone.