Screen Brightness/Darkness not as low as before after Nougat Update - Lenovo P2 Questions & Answers

There was a display option in Marshmallow to set the brighness extra low. With Nougat Update this option seems to be replaced by an brightness protection option. This new option gives the screen an orange color and is not as dark as the option before. The autobrightness seems to be set higher at lowest brightness too. - Is there a way to get back the Marshmallow settings without xposed modules like gravity box? I bought the P2 for reading ebooks and this would save a lot battery time. I read in one review that this phone offers the option to set the lowest brightness which could be measured in no other phone test before.

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At what brightness auto level you keep your phone.

I used to have it at 100% now doing 50%. does it really affect battery?
Adjusting the brightness in general does affect battery life. Although I'm not sure how much adjusting the %, while still using the "Auto" feature will work out. My thought on adjusting the % (while still using Auto) is not so much about battery life, but rather to have some more customization on how bright you like the screen. Many folks will criticize that Auto brightness algorithms are often insufficient and too bright or too dark for the given situations.
If battery life is your concern, I would suggest ditching "Auto" altogether. Reason being, being on Auto constantly polls the light sensor which in itself uses some battery
I haven't experimented with this phone, in particular. But on a previous device, I found anecdotally that turning off Auto and manually having it set to 40% brightness increased the battery life by around 30-40%. Of course, you mileage will vary, and it will depend on how you use your phone and other factors; as well as what brightness level you prefer.
eduardmc said:
I used to have it at 100% now doing 50%. does it really affect battery?
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redpoint73 said:
Adjusting the brightness in general does affect battery life. Although I'm not sure how much adjusting the %, while still using the "Auto" feature will work out. My thought on adjusting the % (while still using Auto) is not so much about battery life, but rather to have some more customization on how bright you like the screen. Many folks will criticize that Auto brightness algorithms are often insufficient and too bright or too dark for the given situations.
If battery life is your concern, I would suggest ditching "Auto" altogether. Reason being, being on Auto constantly polls the light sensor which in itself uses some battery
I haven't experimented with this phone, in particular. But on a previous device, I found anecdotally that turning off Auto and manually having it set to 40% brightness increased the battery life by around 30-40%. Of course, you mileage will vary, and it will depend on how you use your phone and other factors; as well as what brightness level you prefer.
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I've always manually adjusted autobrightness and generally leave it set at around 40% and adjusting when I need to, which typically isnt a great deal each day. Very rarely go anywhere near 100% brightness. It may be worth experiementing and monitoring your battery life for auto and manual over say a week to see the results.
I was under the impression that the slider position was irrelevant if Auto was selected. So setting the slider on Auto sets the upper limit the algorithm uses?
bruce7373 said:
I was under the impression that the slider position was irrelevant if Auto was selected. So setting the slider on Auto sets the upper limit the algorithm uses?
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Your second point seems to be the case, yes.
You will notice even if "Auto" is selected, moving the slider back and forth will make the screen dimmer/brighter for the given ambient lighting condition.
On older devices, your first point was true. Selecting one would override the other. If I remember properly, manually selecting a brightness level would deselect the "Auto" feature.
My understanding has always been that the slider sets the MAX brightness the screen will go up to when set to auto. So if you put it on 50% and go outside in bright sunlight the screen will only go up to 50% which may not be enough. I set mine on 100% and that way if I am in direct sun the screen will go as high as it can and still go down as low as is needed when in a dark room. I will also say that of all the phones I have ever owned this one has the best auto brightness implementation of them all as a stock feature.
jaseman said:
My understanding has always been that the slider sets the MAX brightness the screen will go up to when set to auto. So if you put it on 50% and go outside in bright sunlight the screen will only go up to 50% which may not be enough. I set mine on 100% and that way if I am in direct sun the screen will go as high as it can and still go down as low as is needed when in a dark room. I will also say that of all the phones I have ever owned this one has the best auto brightness implementation of them all as a stock feature.
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That's what I thought but it's the opposite! From HTC website: "With the*Automatic brightness*option selected, drag the slider to set the maximum brightness level.*This sets a LIMIT on how bright the screen will be when*Automatic brightness*is selected"
Source: http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8/howto/465124.html
This means that it will only affect the lowest brightness level, not the highest, meaning you can have it a 0% and it will always go to maximum brightness when in direct sunlight. I've tested this and can confirm it's empirically true.

Setting Always On Display - How?

Clock... etc... on AOD I see wrong. There is little brightness. Both when. Sometimes small brightness, sometimes more brightness. Why? My Adaptive Brightness is Off ...
On YouTube video, I can see (Galaxy S9) settings (brightness) by tapping the clock. It doesn't work for me. I have a new "A50" and I don't like this.
Do you know an application that solves this (brightness, font size)?
Thanks a lot...
(Samsung Galaxy A50, SM-A505FN/DS, A505FNXXU1ASBG/A505FNOXM1ASBG/A505FXXU1ASBB)
I am not sure but you understand it in the wrong way.
AOD may be set in 2 modes:
-always on
-on upon screen tap ( so maybe this is what you saw on S9 video)
There is no setting how bright it is - just factory default
BTW if you could set the brightness up it will eat battery like hell
Yes-I have the "show always " mode turned on. On YT video I see "Brightness adjustment". I do not see this function on "A50"... Apparently I have a different version of "AOD ".
EDIT: + The clock color sometimes changes spontaneously. And the brightness is sometimes smaller, at other times the brightness is larger...
EDIT2: I Found that in daylight AOD shines a lot. There is little light In the darkness. This dependency cannot be manually set. Never mind. That's O.K.
I just got the A50 and have the same issues. The always on display - when set to "show always" is bright enough when in a well lit area, but when theres not enough light its too dim. It changes brightness level automatically. I have the adaptive brightness turned off. I have tried various setting and still the same result. I have the S10e and there is a setting to adjust the brightness level on the AOD, but it appears to be absent on my A50. I have also noted that the latest version on my A50 (AOD) is 4.2.51.3 and on my s10e it is 5.1.38.3. Should it be the same on both devices ? Any advice would be appreciated.
AOD uses adaptive brightness but its frequency is a lot less than normal usage.
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Yes-I have the "show always " mode turned on. On YT video I see "Brightness adjustment". I do not see this function on "A50"... Apparently I have a different version of "AOD ".
EDIT: + The clock color sometimes changes spontaneously. And the brightness is sometimes smaller, at other times the brightness is larger...
EDIT2: I Found that in daylight AOD shines a lot. There is little light In the darkness. This dependency cannot be manually set. Never mind. That's O.K.
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I'm quite sure that is the intended behaviour for the AOD (automatic color and brightness changes throughout the day) to avoid burning the AMOLED panel.
In fact, even though modern OLED displays have improved its durability a lot, it's still not recommended to keep the screen on at all times in the same spot, especially under the sun.
Can anyone tell me the latest version of their AOD on the A50 - it is under settings under AOD - About Always On Display - that will tell you the latest version installed.
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Can anyone tell me the latest version of their AOD on the A50 - it is under settings under AOD - About Always On Display - that will tell you the latest version installed.
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5.1.39.6 - Android 10 Indian version

auto brightness too low

hey guys,
im having trouble with adaptive brightness since some time and i am pretty sure sth has changed there.
my screen is just to dark for the most time.
some time ago i could just increase the brightness value and the adaptive brightness would work with that (higher) value, like an anchor value.
now, by doing that, i just change the overall brightness and it will jump back after some time.
is this the same for you guys? it gets obviously when being in a dark room and ramping up the brightness (with adaptive brightness enabled) to 100 percent. now when i disable adaptive brightness, exactly nothing changes in terms of brightness, however former times, there would be still an increase in brightness since 100 percent with adaptive brightness does not equal 100 percent on manual brightness (at least in a dark place). now it does.
is this the same for you? was this an update or sth?
latest stock pie, with caesium kernel.
Something in kernel settings?
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Something in kernel settings?
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nothing set in settings.
also just tried another one, kikasura or how it is callled. same thing.
just that we are on the same page here: you still can increase the anchor value in brightness settings. or will it, too, just increase your overall brightness for a short time and as soon as lights change or you lock the screen it will be back to previous values?
I stop using auto brightness because some times he is crazy.
I prefer manual mod, like this I have the hand on it and i consum lot less battery (It's my feeling)
Adaptive Brightness is still working fine for me. The way I like to "calibrate" it is when in pitch dark, I set it all the way down to 0. From there it'll always go maximum when in sunlight and indoors it's somewhere in between and does fine. If that's not enough, try resetting adaptive brightness:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...thout-clearing-all-battery-data-apk-download/
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It is happening the same to me on very low light scenarios, auto brightness will go to the lower value, setting the screen without almost no bright, besides I put it manually higher. Maybe this happened after a update I dont know.
FedericoUY said:
It is happening the same to me on very low light scenarios, auto brightness will go to the lower value, setting the screen without almost no bright, besides I put it manually higher. Maybe this happened after a update I dont know.
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https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/26/18516417/how-to-adjust-android-pie-adaptive-brightness-feature
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Redmi Note 5 AI auto brightness doesn't work after 9.0 PEI update

Hey guys, I wanted to ask you guys, what is the problem with my Redmi Note 5 AI/Pro after Android 9 update?
I have a rare problem with my Redmi Note 5 AI/Pro/Globle version. The problem is that, my device does not adjust it's screen brightness even it's set to auto brightness control. And the peculiarly is that it goes down automatically if i adjust it to higher level and auto brightness is active but it does not come up even if I go to eclipse.
Mine works but it's still way too dim and reduces automatically after a while even if I force it brighter manually. I thinks it's related to pie adaptive brightness which can't be turned off in miui currently.
There's a magisk module (miui auto brightness) that helps a bit - it limits how dark the phone gets but the behavior is the same.
I've seen more than a couple bug reports related to that on miui forums, maybe they'll fix it.
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Mine works but it's still way too dim and reduces automatically after a while even if I force it brighter manually. I thinks it's related to pie adaptive brightness which can't be turned off in miui currently.
There's a magisk module (miui auto brightness) that helps a bit - it limits how dark the phone gets but the behavior is the same.
I've seen more than a couple bug reports related to that on miui forums, maybe they'll fix it.
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Same here, have to do it manually.
Auto brightness works fine (brightness slider moving slowly but brightness adjustment is as expected in auto brightness mode)
talvigi said:
Hey guys, I wanted to ask you guys, what is the problem with my Redmi Note 5 AI/Pro after Android 9 update?
I have a rare problem with my Redmi Note 5 AI/Pro/Globle version. The problem is that, my device does not adjust it's screen brightness even it's set to auto brightness control. And the peculiarly is that it goes down automatically if i adjust it to higher level and auto brightness is active but it does not come up even if I go to eclipse.
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Android Pie use a different algorithm to adjust brightness, it now encourage you on manual adjust the brightness yourself and AI will try to learn it instead of the old traditional sensor brightness.
More info here: https://www.androidauthority.com/android-pie-adaptive-brightness-927080/
Well I don't know what Google did with adoptive brightness or ambiant display but my Redmi Note 5 is just not working with this new feature and I don't know how to go back on to my older settings. This only forces me to every time go and adjust my display brightness manually. The worst thing is that i have to adjust brightness in the bright day light, like when i come out from a dark place and i just want to check any update I can't see my screen at all until I adjust the brightness to up. And to my surprise, sometimes when I scroll down the brightness bar to adjust it to an upper level I can see the bar is on the highest level but screen brightness has been lower from somewhere else, which I can't understand.
Somebody give me any good reason for Xiaomi's new auto screen brightness control system on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 AI after PEI update, why should I have it on my mobile when I have to adjust the screen brightness manually every time I want to check my mobile for anything. Either it's on #Xiaomi's part or #Google's but I don't want it on my device.
I can confirm that, with the 10.3.1.0.PEIMIXM rom the auto brightness function not working properly, it's horrible!

Question Adaptive Brightness - Disable maximized "Sunlight Mode"?

Hello!
I bought a Base S22 a few weeks ago and so far, I'm loving this device. But one thing that bothers me is the adaptive brightness implementation from Samsung, because its not really "adaptive". Even on some cloudy days, the brightness gets maximized and I can not change it to a lower level, because I always get the "maximized for best viewing in bright light" notification. In all other scenarios the adaptive brightness algorithm works perfectly.
Is there a way to disable this kind of behavior?
My current solution for sunny days is a Bixby routine to quickly disable adaptive brightness when I'm longer outside to save some battery.
Use manual brightness control. Adaptive brightness never worked right... no surprise it still doesn't.
You can manually lower the brightness even in adaptive mode, and hopefully it will adapt to you too.
Another options are:
- Battery Saving mode has optional "10% lower brightness "
– Battery Guardian module of Good Lock (with dependencies!) may be configured to lower brightness when phone's temperature is high
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You can manually lower the brightness even in adaptive mode, and hopefully it will adapt to you too.
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That never works right either... The only draw back to full manual is finding the slider in bright light to jack it up. Auto is easier to temporarily use then. That said using the device in direct sunlight should be limited to seconds not minutes. Avoid whenever possible.
50% or less is best for battery and AMOLED conservation.
Using manual brightness control saves battery, display and your retinas
MakaanPL said:
You can manually lower the brightness even in adaptive mode, and hopefully it will adapt to you too.
Another options are:
- Battery Saving mode has optional "10% lower brightness "
– Battery Guardian module of Good Lock (with dependencies!) may be configured to lower brightness when phone's temperature is high
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The problem is that the phone puts the brightness to the maximum and locks it there in bright light. Even when I use battery saving to lower the brightness by about 10%, it doesn't let me change the brightness to a lower level.
I don't know if this is just a thing on Samsung phones, because I heard that they use the adaptive brightness algorithm with KI from Google.
Mayamos said:
The problem is that the phone puts the brightness to the maximum and locks it there in bright light. Even when I use battery saving to lower the brightness by about 10%, it doesn't let me change the brightness to a lower level.
I don't know if this is just a thing on Samsung phones, because I heard that they use the adaptive brightness algorithm with KI from Google.
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Which is why I use full manual control almost always. Invariably auto is many time too bright and has a tendency to "jump" around. Lol, human vision in much more adaptable and its nearly seamless.
The brightest stars burn the quickest... my plan is to have a display that's perfect for the life of my heavily used devices which likely will be in excess of 4+ years. Batteries are easy and cheap to replace, the displays aren't. Samsung's plan is to sell you a new phone every year.

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