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Is the HARDWARE of Galaxy Nexus bugless?

Own a Nexus S. Thinking about upgrade to GN.
In Hong Kong, we got a message that Samsung has stopped the production of GN. Shops are offering final sales at HK$3700 / US$474.
It is a good price to buy. But it is very strange to see that Samsung has stopped the production so early, 5 months after release. GN was just released in November.
Is it possible that GN's hardware is buggy and Google needs to issue a new version?
I tried to look for answers in forums. But no luck. Pls give me some hints. thank you!
Any software bugs don't worry me. I am using CM9. I believe in the power of open source community.

So far, I've been more than happy with my GNex.
I bought mine on release day.
Only issues so far have been software related so I flashed AOKP and have never looked back.

Mixmaster333 said:
So far, I've been more than happy with my GNex.
I bought mine on release day.
Only issues so far have been software related so I flashed AOKP and have never looked back.
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Do you see any screen "burn"?

There are no bugs, the global market version is just dropping everywhere. Its a steal I think. Its a low volume model and they're just trying to sell them.
There are price threads right in this forum talking about it.

Only issues I've had so far have been software-related and nothing related to hardware.

No hardware is perfect. And quality control is a lot worse than you'd like to know. That being said, I highly doubt that Google will quietly "refresh" the hardware. The phones been out too long, they're not doing that and there are no blatant defects.

martonikaj said:
No hardware is perfect. And quality control is a lot worse than you'd like to know. That being said, I highly doubt that Google will quietly "refresh" the hardware. The phones been out too long, they're not doing that and there are no blatant defects.
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Does the life cycle of a smart phone become much shorter now? released less than half a year, then stop production.

martonikaj said:
No hardware is perfect. And quality control is a lot worse than you'd like to know. That being said, I highly doubt that Google will quietly "refresh" the hardware. The phones been out too long, they're not doing that and there are no blatant defects.
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When the GN in stock all sold, there will be no Google developer phone available for sale. Is it strange?

colocynth said:
When the GN in stock all sold, there will be no Google developer phone available for sale. Is it strange?
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Carriers will not continue to sell devices if:
1. The contract they have with the OEM does not require it.
And
2. Sales are not doing well. They will not continue to buy devices if they are not selling.
Hardware does not have to be the reason.

adrynalyne said:
Carriers will not continue to sell devices if:
1. The contract they have with the OEM does not require it.
And
2. Sales are not doing well. They will not continue to buy devices if they are not selling.
Hardware does not have to be the reason.
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I think Google should keep at least one developer phone available in the market.
Anyway, after reading you guys' comments, I have decided to buy one. thx for the info!
Hope I can get one since it was out of stock for the last week. GN is so hot in HK.

colocynth said:
I think Google should keep at least one developer phone available in the market.
Anyway, after reading you guys' comments, I have decided to buy one. thx for the info!
Hope I can get one since it was out of stock for the last week. GN is so hot in HK.
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Google doesn't sell the device directly.
They're going to have another Nexus in 6 months anyways.

martonikaj said:
Google doesn't sell the device directly.
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What about the google shops?

This device is the best selling nexus yet.... period!
There is not a major hardware defect and 6 months has been the shelf life standard for the last year or so. Verizon has sold over a million nexuses and sprint just did this...
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...print-sells-out-pre-orders-after-only-3-days/
People in this forum are the most uneducated hard headed bunch I have ever met. Seriously you all need to learn how to read before guessing things ..... smh
#imbussels

If I may contribute:
A few weeks (maybe 6 or 7) after I got the GN, there was a problem with the microUSB connection. It would not charge if it was on, either from a USB port or the wall charger.
To charge it, I had to turn it off or pull the battery several times and connect it while it was still off. Even then, I had to try several times until it finally did charge.
After almost two weeks of that, everything went normal again. To this day, I have no idea whether it was hardware or software related.
Here's a thread with people having a similar issue.

mark manning said:
This device is the best selling nexus yet.... period!
There is not a major hardware defect and 6 months has been the shelf life standard for the last year or so. Verizon has sold over a million nexuses and sprint just did this...
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...print-sells-out-pre-orders-after-only-3-days/
People in this forum are the most uneducated hard headed bunch I have ever met. Seriously you all need to learn how to read before guessing things ..... smh
#imbussels
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You mean #imbeciles?
Anyway, Verizon and Sprint's sales does not reflect what is (or is not) happening in China.

The phone is still produced in Brazil as "Galaxy X" (as Nexus brand is already used by another company that did not allow Samsung / Google to use it to promote the phone), and recently has been introduced to Sprint users, so, my guess is that either it won't be produced/sold in your country or someone is misinformed...

adrynalyne said:
You mean #imbeciles?
Anyway, Verizon and Sprint's sales does not reflect what is (or is not) happening in China.
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Ha! Ya I was a lil drunk writing that lmao
Sent Telepathically

Phone fixed

Hi,
I sent my phone to HTC for repair as the screen was yellow and had poor battery life
they changed the screen and the battery and its amazing now
there are no yellow spots and it works like a charm
the battery lasts 1.50 days dispite heavy use
for those having issues please send it to HTC.
If u send it back to your retailer for an exchange u are not guaranteed to get a phone without an issue, screen especially whereas sending the phone to HTC they make sure there are no issues after a repair they have done a good job and Im really happy with the phone now

8 years I buy HTC phones and have very good experience with them.
Only once I had a issue with my phone, they picked up and returned the machine fixed in 3 days.

htc will fix/replace your device if it has yellow spots?

100% its called Mura. Tell them and they will replace the lcd and u wont face the issue ever again as it s a known issue
Mine had this issue mainly and the new screen rocks

they are easier to deal with then apple... i will never buy another apple product mainly because of their customer service...

DallasGT01 said:
they are easier to deal with then apple... i will never buy another apple product mainly because of their customer service...
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Thats odd, I had an ipod touch a few years back and my experience at the time was really positive. I had a problem and scheduled a visit online, went down to the local mall and gave it to them, they swapped it out for me. I've never had that good of an experience with anything else I own. Of course, that was the only new apple product I've ever had, so maybe regular apple users have a different experience, dunno.
I also have sent my HTC off for repairs (to some place in houston). It wasn't the screen, I had a problem with my mobile data that all but stopped working indoors and barely worked outdoors. I'll see how that goes. They did tell me that if they need any parts, it will cost me $20 because my One X is from france, whatever that means. Its really sad though, I don't really have any other usable android devices at the moment so I'm stuck using my work's blackberry while I wait. I hate that thing, I feel like i've gone back to the 90's.

That's very strange they ask $ 20 for it because HTC warrantee is worldwide.
The phone they fixed for me that time was a HTC Artemis P3300 from the US and I live in Holland. They didn't charge anything.
bveditz said:
I also have sent my HTC off for repairs (to some place in houston). It wasn't the screen, I had a problem with my mobile data that all but stopped working indoors and barely worked outdoors. I'll see how that goes. They did tell me that if they need any parts, it will cost me $20
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The battery lasts 1.50 days dispite heavy use
What sort of heavy use, can you post some stats, wondering if I need a repair ? bet a few other people are thinking the same

pickup9785 said:
The battery lasts 1.50 days dispite heavy use
What sort of heavy use, can you post some stats, wondering if I need a repair ? bet a few other people are thinking the same
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Hi,
Im a recruiter so i have to constantly make calls a lot of calls.
Also to achieve this i had to do the following
wifi sleep policy disabled when asleep
i also disabled apps like books, movies, watch, sound hound, google + fm radio stuffim never going to use to see the disable button u need to uninstall updates first.
these ate battery like hell cos they were running in the background.
Hope that helps

viniturb0 said:
Hi,
Im a recruiter so i have to constantly make calls a lot of calls.
Also to achieve this i had to do the following
wifi sleep policy disabled when asleep
i also disabled apps like books, movies, watch, sound hound, google + fm radio stuffim never going to use to see the disable button u need to uninstall updates first.
these ate battery like hell cos they were running in the background.
Hope that helps
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Screenshot of the usage and display time please. Otherwise I think you have the same battery everyone else has...
Also Stock unrooted phone I believe? If so can perfectly compare with my usage.

Laurentius26 said:
That's very strange they ask $ 20 for it because HTC warrantee is worldwide.
The phone they fixed for me that time was a HTC Artemis P3300 from the US and I live in Holland. They didn't charge anything.
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Yeah, they said because I live in the US and I purchased a phone from france and the repair place is in the US they would need to special order parts. Who knows. I'm actually a little concerned since they mistyped my email address (luckily I got the email anyway since I own the domain) on the rma info and even though they received the device on wednesday (according to the post office), there have been no updates to the website that they've received or are repairing it. So... I'll have to call them again and see what happened.
There is something to be said to buying devices directly from a local carrier.

bveditz said:
Yeah, they said because I live in the US and I purchased a phone from france and the repair place is in the US they would need to special order parts. Who knows. I'm actually a little concerned since they mistyped my email address (luckily I got the email anyway since I own the domain) on the rma info and even though they received the device on wednesday (according to the post office), there have been no updates to the website that they've received or are repairing it. So... I'll have to call them again and see what happened.
There is something to be said to buying devices directly from a local carrier.
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I sent mine off to HTC too in the UK. They picked it up on Wednesday, Thursday evening it was showing as device received on their repair tracking.
Today afternoon it is showing as in repair.... :\ hopefully i get it middle of this week as i have no phone to use whatsoever. hopefully they will fix my yellow spot, i think the gorilla glass was not sitting properly on the LCD. as when i pressed it slightly it was gone.

xl VipeR lx said:
I sent mine off to HTC too in the UK. They picked it up on Wednesday, Thursday evening it was showing as device received on their repair tracking.
Today afternoon it is showing as in repair.... :\ hopefully i get it middle of this week as i have no phone to use whatsoever. hopefully they will fix my yellow spot, i think the gorilla glass was not sitting properly on the LCD. as when i pressed it slightly it was gone.
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Better luck than me... My phone was delivered on the 13th but never made it to 'received'. I now have an escalation ticket into HTC to find it. It took a few calls to them for them to even care that my phone was missing, they just kept saying that the repair place was probably behind. I then had to call them for an escalation ticket, then had to call a few days later to re-do the escalation ticket because the last guy didn't do it properly, then a call a few days later to get someone assigned to the escalation ticket. I'm now at the few days mark again, so I'll have to call again on monday and can hardly wait to hear the response this time.
I couldn't use the blackberry any longer, so I spent the other night screwing with my old captivate to at least get it working again so I'm not living in the dark ages anymore.

So, after a bunch more calls back and forth, they finally found my phone. At which point it sat for a couple more weeks while they ordered parts. Then they called back with the bad news. Apparently they can't order the parts because it's an international phone and due to copyright laws (supposedly) they can't ship the parts it needs overseas. The only options are to 1) return the phone, 2) send the phone to HTC France or 3) Replace the phone with an AT&T One-X. Obviously #1 is out. #3 isn't a great choice either, because the AT&T isn't as good as the International version, and so I discussed #2 with them. #2 apparently is only an option if I have a French shipping address, which obviously I don't. So, I'm pretty much out of options.
I think I may just take them up on replacing it with the AT&T one, and since it's new, I'll just ebay it and take the money to -mostly- pay for the S3. I really liked the One-x, but I don't want the limitations it already has (SD & Battery) combined with the more severe limitations of the AT&T version (dual core, 16gb storage - I can't use LTE so that's not a benefit).
Luckily my captivate has been holding up during this whole fiasco, but It's really on it's last legs.

bveditz said:
Yeah, they said because I live in the US and I purchased a phone from france and the repair place is in the US they would need to special order parts. Who knows. I'm actually a little concerned since they mistyped my email address (luckily I got the email anyway since I own the domain) on the rma info and even though they received the device on wednesday (according to the post office), there have been no updates to the website that they've received or are repairing it. So... I'll have to call them again and see what happened.
There is something to be said to buying devices directly from a local carrier.
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It happened to someone else too. It's not parts, it's this...
BarryH_GEG said:
This makes sense but not for the reasons given. The U.S. One X's have the "app picker" disabled; users have to pre-set an event in settings for a single action to occur when clicking on a link in an app. Those sold outside the U.S. present a list of apps to choose from each time you click on a link just as every other Android device. Making sure the U.S. versions didn't have this feature enabled therefore violating Apple's patent is what held them up at customs. HTC U.S. restoring that feature, even on an international device, would be in violation of the patent. So if they had to replace the motherboard they couldn't load the international s/w on it and they have no alternative ROM with the feature disabled that runs on Teg3.
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BarryH_GEG said:
It happened to someone else too. It's not parts, it's this...
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Great, thanks for that explanation. I didn't really understand and I don't think the HTC guy knew or was able to explain it either.

Nexus 7 - Safe to Buy?

With all of the issues I'm reading about with the Nexus 7 and ghost touches, WiFi and GPS, I'm incredibly nervous about purchasing one of these tablets. I guess I'm just looking for assurances that Google/Asus have solved the ongoing problems with the latest batches, or that they aren't that prevalent.
Are these touchscreen problems really that common, or is it a small percentage of units affected?
Has the GPS signal issue been corrected by the Google OTA patch?
Has the WiFi connection issue been improved at all?
Thanks in advance!!

Kitkat coming to save all of us!

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Kitkat coming to save all of us!
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Eesh. This doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence. And I just got done reading a few pages in the "random reboot" thread. What the heck is going on with the Nexus 7?!?

I don't know if I am just one of the lucky people. But I have had no issues with any of the issues that I have read on these forums. I have had no touchscreen issues, no wifi issues, and I don't really use the GPS that much but the few times that I have used it the GPS has worked fine, and I use my tablet quite a bit. I think it is a good little tablet.

s2pdpyro said:
I don't know if I am just one of the lucky people. But I have had no issues with any of the issues that I have read on these forums. I have had no touchscreen issues, no wifi issues, and I don't really use the GPS that much but the few times that I have used it the GPS has worked fine, and I use my tablet quite a bit. I think it is a good little tablet.
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Same here. No problems with mine. FWIW I'm rooted and unlocked; don't use mine for games or movies (other than the occasional youtube).

Thanks for the input, fellas. Maybe I'll pick one up and give it a test run... does anyone know what the return policy is at Best Buy?

mgerbasio said:
Same here. No problems with mine. FWIW I'm rooted and unlocked; don't use mine for games or movies (other than the occasional youtube).
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The less you use it the less probabilities of you finding issues with it, however that doesn't mean every single Nexus 7 have issues, that's true. Some don't, some have small issues, others have really big issues like mine.
Sometimes the way people use their device allows them to never really know if they have issues, again, sometimes it simply doesn't have issues. My best advice, buy it, try it really hard(do everything you can) before the warrant goes off, if you don't have any issues then you'll have a really nice Nexus device.

I picked up mine from best buy and they give you a 15 day return policy for any reason. That's where I got mine and I love it. I had a 10 inch and finally tried the nexus 7 and now I'm happy I did.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

swisstourist said:
Kitkat coming to save all of us!
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Lol. My 2013 is running stable, fast and does everything I need as is on jelly bean. After root and sfhub's screen drivers it has no issues what so ever.
I think I'll pass on kit Kat.
If it ain't broke.......

Kitkat will be downloaded to your nexus regardless you want it or not.

swisstourist said:
Kitkat will be downloaded to your nexus regardless you want it or not.
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Nope, not mine.

gr8twhite said:
Nope, not mine.
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Kid: 'Eww i will never kiss a girl'
Adult: '*Shags like a Rabbit*'
@gr8twhite 'I won't download 4.4 kitkat'
 @gr8twhite when development of 4.3 stops 'I upgraded to 4.4'

Lipmonger said:
With all of the issues I'm reading about with the Nexus 7 and ghost touches, WiFi and GPS, I'm incredibly nervous about purchasing one of these tablets. I guess I'm just looking for assurances that Google/Asus have solved the ongoing problems with the latest batches, or that they aren't that prevalent.
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I've had one since the day it was released and I love it still. I don't know what the multitouch issues are, maybe I'm not affected but the GPS is fine on mine too. It finds my location in my house and car. I don't use GPS much on my tablet so thats not a big issue anyways. I've never had it random reboot and no WiFi issues either. I'm rooted with TWRP recovery, but stock OS.

penguin449 said:
Kid: 'Eww i will never kiss a girl'
Adult: '*Shags like a Rabbit*'
@gr8twhite 'I won't download 4.4 kitkat'
@gr8twhite when development of 4.3 stops 'I upgraded to 4.4'
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Sorry, None of that makes any sense to me....I don't get what you're at.

I personally have not been having any problems. I highly recommend it.

Buy it locally. Then if you do get a bad one, you can just take it back.

I received mine a few days ago from the $199 sale on eBay and mine has the touchscreen issue. I contacted the seller for an exchange but they said they can only offer a refund at this time. I'm not against flashing the zips that people say can fix the issue, but it's a matter of principle. If I'm going to spend money to buy a brand new product, why should I get a defective product and try to fix it myself? Make the manufacturer deal with the issue, send it back. Which is what I am going to have to do.

For those who does NOT have an issue, did you buy it recently or during the first 60 days of launch date?
I am trying to figure out if Google has at least recognized the issue AND fix it in the next batch of production..
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I went to Google Product forums and there are tons of people having this problem:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/zEqstgT2ZT8[1-25-false]
Although some reported they don't have the issue, it is a BIG GAMBLE for me and quite a hassle. If I have to keep returning it 2-3 times, it'll give me more headache....
Man.. I am on the fence now.. I don't want to plunk down $400 (N7 LTE) for soemthing that I have to keep returning..

lanwarrior said:
For those who does NOT have an issue, did you buy it recently or during the first 60 days of launch date?
I am trying to figure out if Google has at least recognized the issue AND fix it in the next batch of production..
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I went to Google Product forums and there are tons of people having this problem:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/zEqstgT2ZT8[1-25-false]
Although some reported they don't have the issue, it is a BIG GAMBLE for me and quite a hassle. If I have to keep returning it 2-3 times, it'll give me more headache....
Man.. I am on the fence now.. I don't want to plunk down $400 (N7 LTE) for soemthing that I have to keep returning..
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I've had 4. 1 for myself, for the rest of the family. They're all from early manufacturer dates and they work fine.
Honestly I'd go for it, typically the people who have problems will always be the loudest.

joshyc5 said:
I've had 4. 1 for myself, for the rest of the family. They're all from early manufacturer dates and they work fine.
Honestly I'd go for it, typically the people who have problems will always be the loudest.
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Are yours by any chance LTE version?
Yeah, the one that had the problem are the loudest. But when I bought my N7 2012, I had issue too and had to return it. Although I only have to exchange it one time, but it's hassle. Send it back, wait, Google received it, wait, Google send it, wait. I am an impatient Gadgeteer!

any dev want or need a boot mobile moto g6 play?

Well. After only having this phone for a couple months I've learned the screen is not to great at handling falls lol. I dropped it and the screen is broke. It still works and the touchscreen works but I'm gonna get a new one from Walmart ina couple days. Would any devs be interested in wanting this model when I get the new one?

ninjakira said:
Well. After only having this phone for a couple months I've learned the screen is not to great at handling falls lol. I dropped it and the screen is broke. It still works and the touchscreen works but I'm gonna get a new one from Walmart ina couple days. Would any devs be interested in wanting this model when I get the new one?
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Bump. Any devs claimed this yet! Be a great way to get. Headstart on this phone. Personally think it's an Excellent phone.

No devs have claimed this yet

I'll claim it! I'm not a dev, I don't want to mislead you...
But I'd pay for shipping and your time, if no one else wants it.
I really like these phones... I have one myself, and I'd like for my fiance' to try it out (gotta pry the iPhone away from her though!).
Just lemme know if you're interested in getting rid of it to a non-developer. Thanks and take care!

bubbyj said:
I'll claim it! I'm not a dev, I don't want to mislead you...
But I'd pay for shipping and your time, if no one else wants it.
I really like these phones... I have one myself, and I'd like for my fiance' to try it out (gotta pry the iPhone away from her though!).
Just lemme know if you're interested in getting rid of it to a non-developer. Thanks and take care!
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If no devs decide to take up on the offer withing the next week then we can talk. But I will say again the screen is pretty spiderwebbed. I'm using it as I type this so it is still functional. But tbh I'll screw myself on the money saying this lol just go up to Walmart and get it. They sell it here in Ohio for 83.44 after taxes. Not sure what state your in so the taxes might be slightly higher but yeah the moto g6 play is sold cheaper at Walmart than boost Mobile themselves sell it for. They sell it for I believe 129.99 at boost Mobile stores and online so Walmart is the place to go lol

I talked to squid2 to know if he wants the terminal, he is one of the great developers of xda and supports several devices in LOS, you just have to wait for his answer, here I leave your xda profile so you can verify it https: //forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6485916

EduardoDracko said:
I talked to squid2 to know if he wants the terminal, he is one of the great developers of xda and supports several devices in LOS, you just have to wait for his answer, here I leave your xda profile so you can verify it https: //forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6485916
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I'd consider it, but my current problem is that I don't even have enough time to properly maintain the device I currently support, let alone taking on yet another device. If nobody has claimed this device in a few months once my other devices (msm8916 family, msm8610 family, perry) are in good shape on LOS 15.1 or LOS 16, then I'd consider taking on this device. However, as of now, I just don't have time to take on yet another device. Sorry. Hopefully someone else will come along to take on this device - Motorola devices are popular with developers.

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I'd consider it, but my current problem is that I don't even have enough time to properly maintain the device I currently support, let alone taking on yet another device. If nobody has claimed this device in a few months once my other devices (msm8916 family, msm8610 family, perry) are in good shape on LOS 15.1 or LOS 16, then I'd consider taking on this device. However, as of now, I just don't have time to take on yet another device. Sorry. Hopefully someone else will come along to take on this device - Motorola devices are popular with developers.
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O I have the moto g4 play and you did a fantastic job with that so thank you for that lol take your time lol I've been around on xda longer than when I created my account and even I know it'll take a few months before we even get an official rom. BTW everyone reading this. I still have the phone and I Literally am willing to just give it away to a dev so they can work on it. I'll pay for the shipping and everything

General December update/feature drop

Been waiting patiently for a while now

Its getting to be a bit of a farce!
One of the main reasons I got my previous Pixels was that you received the updates first, like clockwork.
The P6P has some major issues, FPS!!, screen going blank, Reception etc. Yet we get it after all the other Pixels!?
And to top it off if you live in the "Google blind spot", ie not USA, you havent even got the FPS fix to make it usable!
So, we get to the delayed date and, SURPRISE! No update again.
Is something going on that we dont know about, feel like a Beta tester and I paid them nearly £1000 to do it!!!!

I don't have any issues with my pixel 6 pro but I'm hoping to get the update today and see if there are any improvements

Nothing yet, might be in around 2-3 hours from now

marmin said:
Its getting to be a bit of a farce!
One of the main reasons I got my previous Pixels was that you received the updates first, like clockwork.
The P6P has some major issues, FPS!!, screen going blank, Reception etc. Yet we get it after all the other Pixels!?
And to top it off if you live in the "Google blind spot", ie not USA, you havent even got the FPS fix to make it usable!
So, we get to the delayed date and, SURPRISE! No update again.
Is something going on that we dont know about, feel like a Beta tester and I paid them nearly £1000 to do it!!!!
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World first problem... Chill out.
Update is coming today December 13th as per every articles.
If you can't stand the phone, sell it and move on to Samsung or Isheep bangwagon. But be advise they have there share of problems too...

therock3181 said:
World first problem... Chill out.
Update is coming today December 13th as per every articles.
If you can't stand the phone, sell it and move on to Samsung or Isheep bangwagon. But be advise they have there share of problems too...
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Please don't tell me to chill out.
If I want to comment on my frustrations about having a "premium" device which is sold with faults and has a promise of updates which are not upheld, then I shall.
If you wish to spend your money and follow what Google says like a "sheep" without voicing your dissatisfaction, then that too is your right.
To paraphrase a brilliant quote "All that is needed for poor service to continue to happen is for good customers to do nothing", I have raised my concerns with Google and would encourage others to raise your voice too.

marmin said:
Please don't tell me to chill out.
If I want to comment on my frustrations about having a "premium" device which is sold with faults and has a promise of updates which are not upheld, then I shall.
If you wish to spend your money and follow what Google says like a "sheep" without voicing your dissatisfaction, then that too is your right.
To paraphrase a brilliant quote "All that is needed for poor service to continue to happen is for good customers to do nothing", I have raised my concerns with Google and would encourage others to raise your voice too.
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Well said. People coming on here trying to tell others what they can or cannot say p's me off.
Returned mine cause the return window expired before today, the 13th. I don't think one update can magically fix the phone. I hope it does though. I think it'll take time though, months.
In the meantime I'm looking forward to the next gen phones that are only a couple months away. This next gen will be a true leap in next gen terms. Pixel left me cold

Probably not until 1pm EST. Relax.

It will probably come 1000 pacific time (Googles HQ time, it the morning) - that equals 1900 Berlin time (Europe).

marmin said:
Please don't tell me to chill out.
If I want to comment on my frustrations about having a "premium" device which is sold with faults and has a promise of updates which are not upheld, then I shall.
If you wish to spend your money and follow what Google says like a "sheep" without voicing your dissatisfaction, then that too is your right.
To paraphrase a brilliant quote "All that is needed for poor service to continue to happen is for good customers to do nothing", I have raised my concerns with Google and would encourage others to raise your voice too.
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You are right to voice criticism. Googles behaviour is unacceptable, since they let their new flagship users wait beyond the usual update time without any explanation given. We should have a clear window to expect - not "in a week" - that's a joke. Google is the biggest company in the world, anyone here seriously believe they don't have fixed, internal deadlines? They should simply make a counter: Here, that's when we will start pushing the update.

Should be out around 1pm est.

Morgrain said:
You are right to voice criticism. Googles behaviour is unacceptable, since they let their new flagship users wait beyond the usual update time without any explanation given. We should have a clear window to expect - not "in a week" - that's a joke. Google is the biggest company in the world, anyone here seriously believe they don't have fixed, internal deadlines? They should simply make a counter: Here, that's when we will start pushing the update.
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They did exactly that, they said it would be released today (13th). As today is not over (and they don't usually release updates until in the PST time zone ) and was never likely to be AM for the CET time zone.
There will be a lot more fixes in the release for the Pixel 6 than applied to the older models, they most likely wanted to test out the fixes that applied to them in the real world and also have some more time to test the Pixel 6 specific fixes. Better to get it right than rush out bad updates which make things worse in the eyes of those who have issues.
I can understand frustration if you are being seriously hampered by an issue (most people aren't, with minor irritations), but at least give it until the window they said has closed.

lawtq said:
Well said. People coming on here trying to tell others what they can or cannot say p's me off.
Returned mine cause the return window expired before today, the 13th. I don't think one update can magically fix the phone. I hope it does though. I think it'll take time though, months.
In the meantime I'm looking forward to the next gen phones that are only a couple months away. This next gen will be a true leap in next gen terms. Pixel left me cold
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Where did I wrote he can or cannot say ? Please tell me
Actually don't, because I found nothing.....

marmin said:
Its getting to be a bit of a farce!
One of the main reasons I got my previous Pixels was that you received the updates first, like clockwork.
The P6P has some major issues, FPS!!, screen going blank, Reception etc. Yet we get it after all the other Pixels!?
And to top it off if you live in the "Google blind spot", ie not USA, you havent even got the FPS fix to make it usable!
So, we get to the delayed date and, SURPRISE! No update again.
Is something going on that we dont know about, feel like a Beta tester and I paid them nearly £1000 to do it!!
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Haven't had a single issue with my P6P. You you actually think you're a beta tester you should have had the first android phone the T-Mobile G1, we were actual beta testers. If you don't like the phone simply return it!

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Haven't had a single issue with my P6P. You you actually think you're a beta tester you should have had the first android phone the T-Mobile G1, we were actual beta testers.
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I'm very pleased for you. Pointing out that you are one of the lucky ones hardly helps those of us with issues, just kind of rubs peoples noses in it. Nope, I said I "feel" like a beta tester, big difference. With the G1 it was a first of a kind, early adopters of new tech/OS often end up with fixes after launch.

OTAs/Factory images usually drop around 10 am PST. You still have 2 hours to go!

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Haven't had a single issue with my P6P. You you actually think you're a beta tester you should have had the first android phone the T-Mobile G1, we were actual beta testers. If you don't like the phone simply return it!
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Same, ironically. I've realized with every release there's those who have issues and those who don't. Luckily we know Google's gonna take care of it

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For clarification, what do you mean by "smells like curry"?
I agree at least with the stance that we should all just patiently await the update. It's coming and should bring good things to our toys. There's people in this world who would love to have this phone so those feeling impatient, just crack on with your day and no dount in an hour or two we'll all be flashing away (cue to the next lot of complaints?!)

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that everyone has a right to complain if something they paid for isn't functioning correctly!
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This is all that matters. Back in the days - before patches - products had to function at launch, since there was no way to fix anything. Once it was in the hands of your customer, there was no choice - either the product worked without issue and you got good press and recommendation, or your product was buggy and people stopped buying it.
Nowadays, companies just don't give a s*it - they release buggy products and there are customers that have the audacity to even support that kind of behavior. Instead of working together in order to get companies to fix their sh*t BEFORE launch, people divide themselves amongst "patience" or "you can't expect them to fix stuff in time" - aha. Well, we can. The nanosecond we buy a thousanddollar product. We are not talking about a 2 dollar china toy, we are talking about a state of the art, high-end flagship - that's simply supposed to work without issue. And if major issues arise, criticism is of paramount importance.
Many bugs we face today have been known since Android 12 has launched it's first beta - 18 May 2021 - that's roughly 7 months time for Google to fix stuff. They didn't.
And here we are not even talking about Pixel 6 specific bugs, simply Android ones.

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Same, ironically. I've realized with every release there's those who have issues and those who don't. Luckily we know Google's gonna take care of it
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I actually wonder how many problems there really are that are really bugs or just user error. When the Note 20 Ultra first came out there were quite a few people having issues with it here on XDA but what it boiled down to in the end was that they were transferring data from another phone and most weren't even a Samsung phone. Also if it were an Android 12 issue we would all have it not just a select few!