Flashing LG H815(International Version) rom onto LG H812 (Bell Canada) hardware - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I am going on a long trip to the UK and Middle East, and want to take my LG G4 with me and use foreign service providers. I am planning on flashing the H815T (Similar to H815 International Version but supports more bands) KDZ file onto my existing LG H812 (Bell Canada) hardware, so I can have support for those frequency bands in the UK and Middle East.
According to my understanding, the H815T rom is compatible with the H812 hardware, as both the Bell Canada and International Versions have the same underlying hardware, but I would gladly appreciate if someone can confirm this. I have attached the phone details below.
Thanks and all the best!

The risk is not worth it ...
BIG_BADASS said:
Hi all,
I am going on a long trip to the UK and Middle East, and want to take my LG G4 with me and use foreign service providers. I am planning on flashing the H815T (Similar to H815 International Version but supports more bands) KDZ file onto my existing LG H812 (Bell Canada) hardware, so I can have support for those frequency bands in the UK and Middle East.
According to my understanding, the H815T rom is compatible with the H812 hardware, as both the Bell Canada and International Versions have the same underlying hardware, but I would gladly appreciate if someone can confirm this. I have attached the phone details below.
Thanks and all the best!
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The risk is not worth it ... It is a lot cheaper to carrier unlock your phone so that you can put any foreign service provider's SIM card in rather than having to buy a new phone when you (hard?) brick it, i.e. ~ $20.00 vs $700.00 (or ~$150.00 on ebay for a used one).
But if you insist ... carry on.
S.

sdembiske said:
The risk is not worth it ... It is a lot cheaper to carrier unlock your phone so that you can put any foreign service provider's SIM card in rather than having to buy a new phone when you (hard?) brick it, i.e. ~ $20.00 vs $700.00 (or ~$150.00 on ebay for a used one).
But if you insist ... carry on.
S.
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I have done so previously with Samsung Galaxy S4 (all had different model numbers), I used to flash different carriers firmware regularly, as I travel quite often. Just wondering whether the same is true for LG.
Thanks!

Unfortunately ...
BIG_BADASS said:
I have done so previously with Samsung Galaxy S4 (all had different model numbers), I used to flash different carriers firmware regularly, as I travel quite often. Just wondering whether the same is true for LG.
Thanks!
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Unfortunately ... because you cannot unlock the H812's bootloader (at this point in time, any way), you cannot safely flash different firmware in the same way you did with your Samsung. Unlocking your carrier so you can replace your SIM card with foreign providers and if you wish, installing steadfasterX's TWRP-in-FisH to have a custom recovery is about it for now. If and when steadfasterX completes his efidroid port to LG G4 locked devices (he's working on it now for unlocked devices), then you may be able to install different firmwares.
All of us H812 owners as well as many others are in the same boat.
Safe travels,
S.

BIG_BADASS said:
Hi all,
I am going on a long trip to the UK and Middle East, and want to take my LG G4 with me and use foreign service providers. I am planning on flashing the H815T (Similar to H815 International Version but supports more bands) KDZ file onto my existing LG H812 (Bell Canada) hardware, so I can have support for those frequency bands in the UK and Middle East.
According to my understanding, the H815T rom is compatible with the H812 hardware, as both the Bell Canada and International Versions have the same underlying hardware, but I would gladly appreciate if someone can confirm this. I have attached the phone details below.
Thanks and all the best!
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I read so much of bands because of Xiaomi phones. I don't think it would work. You need hardware for bands

yener90 said:
I read so much of bands because of Xiaomi phones. I don't think it would work. You need hardware for bands
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Can you confirm that frequency bands are hardware based?

BIG_BADASS said:
Can you confirm that frequency bands are hardware based?
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For Xiaomi yes: they unlocked the bands, still couldn't get running. I can't tell for LG, maybe every LG uses same antenna or they using different antennas. Check out, if your phone requires special antenna, then you now for sure. Just check that out, before you spend your time on this.

yener90 said:
For Xiaomi yes: they unlocked the bands, still couldn't get running. I can't tell for LG, maybe every LG uses same antenna or they using different antennas. Check out, if your phone requires special antenna, then you now for sure. Just check that out, before you spend your time on this.
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So if they are hardware based, then howcome when you unlock the phone, it suddenly supports all the bands? Also by antenna, do you mean the GSM transmitter and receiver?

BIG_BADASS said:
Hi all,
I am going on a long trip to the UK and Middle East, and want to take my LG G4 with me and use foreign service providers. I am planning on flashing the H815T (Similar to H815 International Version but supports more bands) KDZ file onto my existing LG H812 (Bell Canada) hardware, so I can have support for those frequency bands in the UK and Middle East.
According to my understanding, the H815T rom is compatible with the H812 hardware, as both the Bell Canada and International Versions have the same underlying hardware, but I would gladly appreciate if someone can confirm this. I have attached the phone details below.
Thanks and all the best!
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[Q] Korean F160s

hi, merry christmas and a happy new year, i received from a friend today an lg korean version f160s, acording to some post, over the internet the specs are
lte and network CDMA800, CDMA1900, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, Bluetooth 4.0, NFC,
but if you check on lgetool site
http://www.lgtool.net/phones/F160S.html
LG F160S
LG F160S is a GSM phone supported by LGtool.
Instant unlock by IMEI is supported by LGtool for this phone.
And since i have worked with some samsung and motorolas from sk korea, if you flash a compatible version form another model acording to the one that your trying to unlock, if succeded it works on a gsm network.
i believe that sk telecom uses gsm phones but with the imei and unlocking options removed or hidden.
this phone has an imei, so i believe it could work on a gsm system, and if posible can someone please, guide me, on how to remove sk bloatware to be able to input a network unlocking code? or how to change the rom to a compatible one for sim unlocking purposes.
examples
motorola xt910, xt720
samsung shv- e120s, m110s, e210s, e210l. shw- m110s m130k m130l, m190s, m240k, m240s, m440s.
that are from korea, and can be unlocked and used in gsm systems.
thank you very much indeed for your help
I am no expert, but I would be REALLY surprised if that is possible... According to specs, this is not a GSM device, and it makes no sense (to me, at least), that the GSM functionality would exist in hardware, but somehow be "hidden" or disabled in software. As regards to your examples, those are in fact GSM phones - both Motorolas, Samsung E120S, M110S, didn't check further...
kt-Froggy said:
I am no expert, but I would be REALLY surprised if that is possible... According to specs, this is not a GSM device, and it makes no sense (to me, at least), that the GSM functionality would exist in hardware, but somehow be "hidden" or disabled in software. As regards to your examples, those are in fact GSM phones - both Motorolas, Samsung E120S, M110S, didn't check further...
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posting this to just answer and because there is no forum for lte2 here...
f160 / lte2 is a cdma phone just like any other Korean LG phone like F180.
so just pop in the sim and it will work, but you wont get edge.
3g / lte are also dependent on the frequencies of your country and providers.
i had f160 and there is no english counterpart for tghis phone like f180 which has e975. its a decent enough phone, just root and remove the korean apps.
atifsh said:
f160 / lte2 is a cdma phone just like any other Korean LG phone like F180.
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The first part is correct, the second part is not quite so... F160 is indeed a CDMA phone, but very different from F180, which is a GSM device (with WCDMA and LTE as well). The OP's question was about using F160 on GSM networks.
kt-Froggy said:
The first part is correct, the second part is not quite so... F160 is indeed a CDMA phone, but very different from F180, which is a GSM device (with WCDMA and LTE as well). The OP's question was about using F160 on GSM networks.
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which part you didn't get, i had this phone, this is same as f180, you will not get edge, but rest its ok. gsm network works.
atifsh said:
which part you didn't get, i had this phone, this is same as f180, you will not get edge, but rest its ok. gsm network works.
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Calm down, will ya? The part I dont get is that you said youself it's a CDMA phone. F180x models are all listed as GSM devices, but F160x are spec'd as CDMA only. I don't have an F160, and I don't have a reason not to believe you - if you are saying it works on GSM networks, it means the published specs are incorrect, that's it.
kt-Froggy said:
Calm down, will ya? The part I dont get is that you said youself it's a CDMA phone. F180x models are all listed as GSM devices, but F160x are spec'd as CDMA only. I don't have an F160, and I don't have a reason not to believe you - if you are saying it works on GSM networks, it means the published specs are incorrect, that's it.
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lol sometimes its like chating you have no idea what other person is thinking or whats his mood.!
i was pretty normal, perhaps my reply seemed im not.
yes F180 is speced wrong because its similar to E975 so they just put like e975, F180 ... blaa blaa. but it is exact to what gsmarena says for lte2.
atifsh said:
i was pretty normal, perhaps my reply seemed im not.
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Nah, it's all good... Your response did sound a little bit... overexcited, but I sometimes get that, too.
On the topic, though, it's interesting that the phone which is very specifically listed as CDMA only (GSM Arena is one example, but other places have the same apecs) actually works on GSM networks... It does sound like it's similar to the F180 family then.
thanks
hi thank you very much for the guide anad help,
as for the example of the motorola xt720 motoroi from korea (just to confirm about the options removed),
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589076
unlock korean XT720
Go online and get you unlock code , update you phone to a custom rom you will find plenty of these on this site CM7 i used from J.Y daddy, then place in you sim and you will get request for a unlock code.
"Korean phones have this functionality removed so updating is the only way".
as for the use of the phone just like it is now, i just poped a 900 and 1900mhz claro sim card and, no network code request, but emergency calls only,
in the mobile network menu settings
Network mode
select a LTE/3g network
so unless it has a hidden menu to change bands, i will believe that it's imei in this case is only for LTE non gsm calling at all, or i do need a custom rom to habilitate other options.
i always believe that gsm arena listed 100% accurate specs.
but no, sometimes it says that it is not a gsm device specially, in asian devices, and at the end they turn to be gsm capable.
thanks, any other advice?
atv said:
hi thank you very much for the guide anad help,
as for the example of the motorola xt720 motoroi from korea (just to confirm about the options removed),
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589076
unlock korean XT720
Go online and get you unlock code , update you phone to a custom rom you will find plenty of these on this site CM7 i used from J.Y daddy, then place in you sim and you will get request for a unlock code.
"Korean phones have this functionality removed so updating is the only way".
as for the use of the phone just like it is now, i just poped a 900 and 1900mhz claro sim card and, no network code request, but emergency calls only,
in the mobile network menu settings
Network mode
select a LTE/3g network
so unless it has a hidden menu to change bands, i will believe that it's imei in this case is only for LTE non gsm calling at all, or i do need a custom rom to habilitate other options.
i always believe that gsm arena listed 100% accurate specs.
but no, sometimes it says that it is not a gsm device specially, in asian devices, and at the end they turn to be gsm capable.
thanks, any other advice?
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inshort
F160 will work on gsm sim if its not carrier locked for some reason. (mine was not, no code request or anything)
F160 will work with GPRS but not EDGE on gsm sim.
F160 will work on 3G if the frequencies match with the carrier in use.
custom ROM or Stock, doesn't matter. hidden menu is same as for e975, search for it.
dont want to be rude, but we have enough talk about the phone here, you can find info elsewhere.
you can always talk in General section but not in device specific forum.
hi
atifsh said:
inshort
F160 will work on gsm sim if its not carrier locked for some reason. (mine was not, no code request or anything)
F160 will work with GPRS but not EDGE on gsm sim.
F160 will work on 3G if the frequencies match with the carrier in use.
custom ROM or Stock, doesn't matter. hidden menu is same as for e975, search for it.
dont want to be rude, but we have enough talk about the phone here, you can find info elsewhere.
you can always talk in General section but not in device specific forum.
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hi thank you very much indeed for your time and help
dont want to be rude, i asked for help and guide, for me and others in my case.
this is the best forum for my belief, and wish, to ask to the world's best, not elsewhere
my mistake, i assume that the title, was indeed the appropriate, but seems i was wrong.
so maybe i can find info elsewhere, or talk in another general section, not in a device specific forum,
as you kindly suggest.
LG Optimus G (International) > Optimus G General > [Q] Korean F160s
For South Korea Also known as LG Optimus LTE II, LG F160S, LG F160K, LG F160L
take care, sorry to bother, and as the first post, merry Christmas and happy new year.
atv
Please tell me about F160
atifsh said:
posting this to just answer and because there is no forum for lte2 here...
f160 / lte2 is a cdma phone just like any other Korean LG phone like F180.
so just pop in the sim and it will work, but you wont get edge.
3g / lte are also dependent on the frequencies of your country and providers.
i had f160 and there is no english counterpart for tghis phone like f180 which has e975. its a decent enough phone, just root and remove the korean apps.
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I am buying F160 but saw that it is CDMA. Please tell me can it support GSM sim of India. Its urgent
noni shoni said:
I am buying F160 but saw that it is CDMA. Please tell me can it support GSM sim of India. Its urgent
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Yes it will support gsm, data (3g / edge )you have to see for yourself, GPRS should work with correct APN.
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LG G3 variants need quick answer please...

Hi. I am thinking of getting an LG G3. Unfortunately, all the local variants for sale are the D852. What I need is either the D851 (tmobile) or D852G (Videotron). I need Aws band 4 (1700/2100).
I've been searching around and found this interesting thread:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/can-lg-g3-d852-work-wind-mobilicity-1720993/
Which says it's possible and somebody has actually done it. But I have my doubts.
So my question is: Is the North American LG G3 physically the same phone for all variants, but is just firmware locked to work on certain frequencies. Or are they physically different (ie. different antennas tuned to certain frequencies)?
If it's the latter and it has specially tuned antennas, it may work on aws band 4 but signal strength would be weaker? I'm not an engineer so I'm just guessing.
Thanks.

LG G3 D850 works On LTE In India & Middle East

Dear Sir,
I am going to Purchase LG G3 D850 US Version , Please Guide me Whether It works on 4G LTE and other networks in India or Middle east, Because i am an Indian while i am residing in Qatar.
Please help me i could purchase the Specified Model.
Awaiting your valued Reply....
Well, the D850 is a manufacturer _locked_ device that will work on that AT&T network only, in USA, unless you unlock it. Moreover, by design, the device supports out of factory only the radio bands that are necessary to operate on the AT&T network. Even if you manage to unlock the device to operate on non-ATT network, you still will run into issues with some bands missing. So personally, I wouldn't bother with the buying the D850 to use outside of USA or ATT network.. unless you have some solid proof that the D850 can be easily adapted to some other environment. I don't know abour Qatar, but I heard that the new Oneplus X smartphone is fairly optimal for using in India, and perhaps other countries. It has the same hardware specs as the G3.

Octopus Box/Dev Patched LGUP Thoughts

ChazzMatt said:
You mean like an Octopus box?
I mentioned it in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76325684&postcount=42
Just remember that post was written back in April 2018, when we were still figuring out the Frankenstein method. But these "boxes" were allowing online sellers and online unlockers to convert V30 phones to OTHER variants seemingly willy nilly. We found LS998 V30+ which had been converted to Canadian H933 V30+. Canada H933 doesn't officially have a V30+! Just like there's no VS996 V30+! But you can make one.
Once we figured out the PC based Frankenstein system with dev patched LGUP, then we could do almost the same thing ourselves. Since then, I even bought two mint LS998 V30+ myself and converted them to US998 V30+.
But when I made that post I expressed severe reservations about buying LS998 in the first place -- since they were SIM card locked to Sprint. Like I said, we didn't know everything we know now, and I've changed my mind on the topic.
Whether one of these boxes could help you or not. My understanding is it basically does what dev patched LGUP does. Maybe it does it more automatically and there's less chance for error? I don't know.
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So, ChazzMatt, you started something... I just thought I'd share these details with you guys in hopes that it gets the ball rolling on something big.
But these "boxes" were allowing online sellers and online unlockers to convert V30 phones to OTHER variants seemingly willy nilly.
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I remember these boxes... My first experience with them was back in the days when Nokia was a huge name in phones. I had a Bell locked Nokia RM-579, which was the NA market 2730. Used BB5 SL3 security. Made it almost impossible to remove the USIM lock too... But from playing around with some of the software, uncovering factory service manuals, and playing with Nokia Diego, I found out that (at least, the Nokia factory boxes) those boxes interface with the phone in ways i only dream of. For all of Nokia's phones, they make special jig's that connect with contacts found on the PCB, typically under the SIM/USIM tray. To use them, you also need the special power adapter tool as well since the battery typically needs to be removed. I would guess that these boxes converted a standard serial port or USB port from serial signaling, to something similar (I think) to TTL or Transisitor-Transistor logic. Those boxes would allow you to make that phone your... you know what. You could repair any issues that had anything to do with software... Somehow obliterated the firmware? Fixed! Accidently flashed the wrong baseband and bricked your modem? No Problem! Need to reprogram baseband parameters? Piece of cake!
With the ushering in of the non removable battery, I assumed they'd go by the wayside... But apparently not... How they interface with the phone, I can only imagine... For TTL to work, you only need three pins... Your Tx, Rx and Ground. You could have the phone wired so that pin 4 of your micro USB port is hooked up to the Rx on the serial port of the CPU, then use pin 3 as your Tx and 5 is already your ground... Just saying. With USB-C there are a multitude of pins to choose from, and you only need three. Apparently they're doing something like this with those boxes because of the Franken-phones that have been reported... Which makes me wonder how those boxes worked...
I personally assume that those boxes also rewrite the security keys that tell the phone the software is valid. And at least in my mind, so long as the V30 you're flashing has the same hardware as another in terms of baseband and radio frequency support, then theoretically speaking you can reflash any portion, such as the modem firmware and paramaters as well as the system partition, you could theoretically speaking make a Canadian V30+ variant, or any other variant out there.
Now, the other thought I had comes from my days with HTC.... Ingenious people really... My last phone prior to the V30 was an HTC 10. Quick rundown on how it worked... HTC allowed unlocking the bootloader on all their phones except Verizon ones (for the 10 at least). Using their unlock would allow you to flash unsigned images to the System, User, and Recovery partitions for a custom firmware... This however left S-On, or Security On. The Sunshine team figured out how to set S-Off. This allowed you to flash whatever to wherever and change whatever you wanted. This meant you could change your general North American variant to a European or Asian variant and then back again if you so desired. You would change the model ID, then run the HTC firmware recovery executible on your PC, or boot into download mode on your phone with the firmware on your SD card, and presto, your phone would become that model as though it was that from day one. No signal issues, no battery drain issues, perfect software operation. I can vouch for this, as I converted my 2PS6500 (the NA variant), to a 2PS6200 (the EU variant) which worked flawlessly. I then realized I made it a European model and converted back to a North American one but needless to say, there were no problems at all... I don't know why the HTC 10 can be converted between variants with no baseband issues at all... I personally would think that when flashing a North American phone with European firmware it would cause the baseband to crash and cease working at all. That's what it does with all other phones I've accidently done it to...
I hope this helps to spur some of the brilliant minds on this forum to figure out if this is possible with the LG V30, or to help figure out the deeper darker secrets of this phone.
For.anyone wanting to dig further, I'm not familiar with the octobox but this sounds like a JTAG interface.
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atirox said:
HTC allowed unlocking the bootloader on all their phones except Verizon ones (for the 10 at least). Using their unlock would allow you to flash unsigned images to the System, User, and Recovery partitions for a custom firmware... This however left S-On, or Security On. The Sunshine team figured out how to set S-Off. This allowed you to flash whatever to wherever and change whatever you wanted. This meant you could change your general North American variant to a European or Asian variant and then back again if you so desired. You would change the model ID, then run the HTC firmware recovery executable on your PC, or boot into download mode on your phone with the firmware on your SD card, and presto, your phone would become that model as though it was that from day one. No signal issues, no battery drain issues, perfect software operation. I can vouch for this, as I converted my 2PS6500 (the NA variant), to a 2PS6200 (the EU variant) which worked flawlessly. I then realized I made it a European model and converted back to a North American one but needless to say, there were no problems at all... I don't know why the HTC 10 can be converted between variants with no baseband issues at all... I personally would think that when flashing a North American phone with European firmware it would cause the baseband to crash and cease working at all. That's what it does with all other phones I've accidently done it to...
I hope this helps to spur some of the brilliant minds on this forum to figure out if this is possible with the LG V30, or to help figure out the deeper darker secrets of this phone.
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Some manufacturers basically create one "global" phone with all bands activated, then lock down bands via firmware to create their "regional" or "carrier" models. This is their business model. If they created and sold a "global" model, then you would import the cheapest phone you could find from some developing country and Verizon/AT&T wouldn't make any money on hardware sales.
IF you Google: "unlock Qualcomm LTE bands", you will see a few years ago people figured this out, and started unlocking extra LTE bands which were present originally on their phone but firmware locked down to become a carrier model. You could turn your phone into a "global" phone. Caveat: Using this method, you could not activate bands out of thin air, they had to be there already, and the hardware (like antenna) had to support them. But similar to the the "hidden menu" stuff, you use this method to activate ALL the bands listed and they would work.
Most times you also needed root to do this. Also more recently this doesn't work much any more as OEMs have taken steps to thwart this freedom.
But in the same way, the North American V30/V30+ (except the T-mobile H932, due to different RSA encryption) seem to all be the same phone except for firmware. The carrier unlocked US998 is the closest to a "universal" North American V30 -- but it's missing some Sprint bands (found on the LS998), some minor AT&T bands (found on the H931), and the new T-mobile band 71 (while the H932 has that). I'm sure somewhere in an LG vault, there's a "super" US998 that has ALL those bands. Maybe even a "Master" V30 with every GSM/CDMA/HSPA/LTE band -- but LG won't sell that because it would make the carriers mad.
This is why they put different RSA encryption on different models.
ChazzMatt said:
Some manufacturers basically create one "global" phone with all bands activated, then lock down bands via firmware to create their "regional" or "carrier" models. This is their business model. If they created and sold a "global" model, then you would import the cheapest phone you could find from some developing country and Verizon/AT&T wouldn't make any money on hardware sales.
IF you Google: "unlock Qualcomm LTE bands", you will see a few years ago people figured this out, and started unlocking extra LTE bands which were present originally on their phone but firmware locked down to become a carrier model. You could turn your phone into a "global" phone. Caveat: Using this method, you could not activate bands out of thin air, they had to be there already, and the hardware (like antenna) had to support them. But similar to the the "hidden menu" stuff, you use this method to activate ALL the bands listed and they would work.
Most times you also needed root to do this. Also more recently this doesn't work much any more as OEMs have taken steps to thwart this freedom.
But in the same way, the North American V30/V30+ (except the T-mobile H932, due to different RSA encryption) seem to all be the same phone except for firmware. The carrier unlocked US998 is the closest to a "universal" North American V30 -- but it's missing some Sprint bands (found on the LS998), some minor AT&T bands (found on the H931), and the new T-mobile band 71 (while the H932 has that). I'm sure somewhere in an LG vault, there's a "super" US998 that has ALL those bands. Maybe even a "Master" V30 with every GSM/CDMA/HSPA/LTE band -- but LG won't sell that because it would make the carriers mad.
This is why they put different RSA encryption on different models.
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Everyone is talking about the band , I did not understand if there is any benefit to add more band ,Is it an improvement to lte. and Does Korea model v300s need more lte band or this is unnecessary?
Please I just want to know. I am from Algeria and my networks are "Djezzy" and "Mobilis".
the signal is good and lte work great no problem.
seloka180 said:
I am from Algeria and my networks are "Djezzy" and "Mobilis".
the signal is good and lte work great no problem.
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Then you probably don't need any additional LTE bands.
Korea variants are hard to mess with. You risk losing the mobile signal, if you convert to another variant.

Which G7 ThinQ Variant Should I Buy?

I *will* root it (lots of experience with other manufacturers devices), and flash whatever (firmware, etc.) in order to get it to work on an MVNO (currently using USMobile for old phone).
* Would like it to work on a Verizon-capable MVNO.
* T-Mobile is a distant second choice, but still acceptable in my location.
I see that these are available, but with flashing I know that many limitations can be avoided (of course the hardware/radio/frequency bands dictate).
A nice comparison (brief below) from gsmarena.com with the EM, ULM, and VLM variants selected https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.ph...ne2=9115&idPhone3=9115#g710em,g710ulm,g710vmp
G710EM - Global market
G710EMW - China, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong
G710EAW - Europe, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore
G710ULM - USA, unlocked model
G710VMP - Verizon
G710PM - Sprint
G710AWM - Canada
The ULM and the VMP variants show no differences in frequency bands, and the EM one shows more frequency bands.
I've spent a *lot* of time trying to figure this out (hours and hours, maybe I'm too thick? or can't see the forest for the trees), but am still confused.
Any help is much appreciated.
TiTiB said:
I *will* root it (lots of experience with other manufacturers devices), and flash whatever (firmware, etc.) in order to get it to work on an MVNO (currently using USMobile for old phone).
* Would like it to work on a Verizon-capable MVNO.
* T-Mobile is a distant second choice, but still acceptable in my location.
I see that these are available, but with flashing I know that many limitations can be avoided (of course the hardware/radio/frequency bands dictate).
A nice comparison (brief below) from gsmarena.com with the EM, ULM, and VLM variants selected https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.ph...ne2=9115&idPhone3=9115#g710em,g710ulm,g710vmp
G710EM - Global market
G710EMW - China, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong
G710EAW - Europe, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore
G710ULM - USA, unlocked model
G710VMP - Verizon
G710PM - Sprint
G710AWM - Canada
The ULM and the VMP variants show no differences in frequency bands, and the EM one shows more frequency bands.
I've spent a *lot* of time trying to figure this out (hours and hours, maybe I'm too thick? or can't see the forest for the trees), but am still confused.
Any help is much appreciated.
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If you want to root your phone, then you should steer clear of the T-Mobile variant. Till this day they still haven't unlocked the phones bootloader. You can buy any variant you want, just not the T-Mobile version.
billclintonwong said:
If you want to root your phone, then you should steer clear of the T-Mobile variant. Till this day they still haven't unlocked the phones bootloader. You can buy any variant you want, just not the T-Mobile version.
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Great info, thanks! For clarity, do you mean the ULM model? iirc it's the one with the T-Mobile bands; not sure of the ones for the Asian markets, but I'm pretty sure they don't have compatible radios for the U.S.
I'm actually going with the Samsung A70; mostly for screen size, partly because of my familiarity with Samsung devices—both good and bad. Unfortunately, it seems I'm passing on a great phone in the G7 ThinQ, but will be back if the A70 thing doesn't work out.
Thanks again
billclintonwong said:
If you want to root your phone, then you should steer clear of the T-Mobile variant. Till this day they still haven't unlocked the phones bootloader. You can buy any variant you want, just not the T-Mobile version.
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How do you unlock the Canadian one? I see no info on that one anywhere. All guides refer to the European one.
Noboty said:
How do you unlock the Canadian one? I see no info on that one anywhere. All guides refer to the European one.
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You can't, LG only allows limited number of specific models to be bootloader unlocked, see list here:
https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
Hi,
im on the same boat as to which version to buy and whats suitable for the UK carriers.
What is the difference between the ULM/TM versions as it seems these are the only ones on fleabay that i have an option to buy! Do we stay away from the both versions or can we buy the ULM?
cheers
LG G7 ThinQ G710ULM or LG G7 ThinQ Verizon G710VMP or LG G7 ThinQ G710PM...the latter being the cheapest out of the 3 options.
Which one is best to buy for Virgin UK carrier?
Also, which phone would you choose between the LG G7 and the LG v30+???
Cheers
Anyone?
no one?
do i need to create my own thread?
Nenhuma.
billclintonwong said:
If you want to root your phone, then you should steer clear of the T-Mobile variant. Till this day they still haven't unlocked the phones bootloader. You can buy any variant you want, just not the T-Mobile version.
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That stinks, I'm on T-mobile and want VoLTE and VoWifi as options, and as I understand it these will only work on LGs with carrier branded firmware that supports it. I've heard some variants can be flashed to others. Can, say, a VZ or AT&T variant be flashed with T-mobile's firmware and work properly?
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That stinks, I'm on T-mobile and want VoLTE and VoWifi as options, and as I understand it these will only work on LGs with carrier branded firmware that supports it. I've heard some variants can be flashed to others. Can, say, a VZ or AT&T variant be flashed with T-mobile's firmware and work properly?
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No not with t mobile firmware you would never want to do that. There is almost 100% some way to do it with root
antintin said:
No not with t mobile firmware you would never want to do that. There is almost 100% some way to do it with root
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What do you mean? Make volte and vowifi work with a different carrier firmware using root? I'm under the impression that's not possible, or at least it hasn't been with other phones.

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