Possible to root the Pixel on 7.1.2? - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

Hi All,
I got a bestbuy/verizon pixel xl and am unable to unlock my bootloader to install TWRP and Root my pixel
So, while i was searching for methods to root without unlocking bootloader, i found articles on rooting without TWRP. Is this method still supported on 7.1.2 and Verizon set pixel?

tornado6 said:
Hi All,
I got a bestbuy/verizon pixel xl and am unable to unlock my bootloader to install TWRP and Root my pixel
So, while i was searching for methods to root without unlocking bootloader, i found articles on rooting without TWRP. Is this method still supported on 7.1.2 and Verizon set pixel?
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You can not root it unless you unlock the bootloader. It has always been that way.

tornado6 said:
Hi All,
I got a bestbuy/verizon pixel xl and am unable to unlock my bootloader to install TWRP and Root my pixel
So, while i was searching for methods to root without unlocking bootloader, i found articles on rooting without TWRP. Is this method still supported on 7.1.2 and Verizon set pixel?
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I got a new one from Google but mine came from Google warehouse in Carol Illinois it's on October update tho so I can unlock mine if you ever get replacement device that's where it's coming from

Badazzmenc said:
I got a new one from Google but mine came from Google warehouse in Carol Illinois it's on October update tho so I can unlock mine if you ever get replacement device that's where it's coming from
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If yours is a Google version then it doesn't matter what update you are on, it will still be unlockable.

How do you know what version you have? I got my phone from Verizon but there is no bloat or Verizon anything on it. Could I possibly have a variant that can be unlocked?
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lowvolt1 said:
How do you know what version you have? I got my phone from Verizon but there is no bloat or Verizon anything on it. Could I possibly have a variant that can be unlocked?
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Simple, go to Setting/About phone, and tab the Build number text 5 times. Go back to Setting and select Developer options. If the OEM unlocking option is grayed out, it's a Verizon Pixel/XL, if you can toggle the slidder on and off, it's a Google Pixel/XL and can be bootloader unlocked anytime you want, regardless of update.
Seeing as how you purchased it directly from Verizon, I'm fairly certain it's a Verizon Pixel/XL. Any phone purchased directly from Google's Online Store, will always have the option to unlock their bootloader whenever they want.

Thank you. Unfortunately it is gray.
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lowvolt1 said:
Thank you. Unfortunately it is gray.
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What version of Android are you on. If it's on 7.1 still then you can still unlock.

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Root and install twrp

I'm stock 7.1.1 Verizon xl is there a way to root now or are we waiting
revolt1 said:
I'm stock 7.1.1 Verizon xl is there a way to root now or are we waiting
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Did you look in the development forum..
aholeinthewor1d said:
Did you look in the development forum..
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There's nothing there about root after update
revolt1 said:
There's nothing there about root after update
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There's no difference with root. You just can't unlock bootloader after the update. There are tons of threads about root already
aholeinthewor1d said:
There's no difference with root. You just can't unlock bootloader after the update. There are tons of threads about root already
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He can't use those root files with an unlocked bootloader
I wish VZW users would preface their thread titles with [VERIZON] so the rest of us could save a few clicks and just ignore them.
@revolt1,
Don't hold your breath waiting. I doubt there'll be a method to unlock VZW Pixel XL bootloader running 7.1.1.
7.1.1 locked up the bootloader again. Need to wait for an exploit. I'm finding .ore and more these days that stock Android is my fav without root now that I have a non-root AdBlock method.
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He asked about root and you guys are talking about unlocking, I'm confused.
jjayzx said:
He asked about root and you guys are talking about unlocking, I'm confused.
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Cuz you have to be unlocked to root. Unlocking is step one before you can do anything.
An update locked the bootloader? Thanks for this, I'll not be going to vz to get this phone. Now I'm wondering if the update that the Google bought phone gets when a vz sim is inserted (what I've read) will do the same?
Larzzzz82 said:
An update locked the bootloader? Thanks for this, I'll not be going to vz to get this phone. Now I'm wondering if the update that the Google bought phone gets when a vz sim is inserted (what I've read) will do the same?
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If you find one in stock it shouldn't have the update since it just came out last week. You can't remove sim and skip setup and don't connect to wifi. Then you can unlock before taking the OTA. That's what I did on my replacement pixel from best buy
Just to clarify, if you are already unlocked before taking the 7.1.1 update you will still be unlocked after update.
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Downgrade from 7.1.1

Anyone know if it's possible to downgrade from 7.1.1 so I can run depixel8 and unlock the bootloader?
ashish8 said:
Anyone know if it's possible to downgrade from 7.1.1 so I can run depixel8 and unlock the bootloader?
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I'm not Verizon but I have some experience and can tell you 100% no doubt that you're stuck if you're on the latest update from Verizon and do not have an unlocked bootloader.
There is no way to go back just to unlock the bootloader.
Sorry.
@CZ Eddie is right. No way to go back with a locked bootloader on a VZW phone running 7.1.1.
CZ Eddie said:
I'm not Verizon but I have some experience and can tell you 100% no doubt that you're stuck if you're on the latest update from Verizon and do not have an unlocked bootloader.
There is no way to go back just to unlock the bootloader.
Sorry.
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Question for you sir, I have a Verizon Pixel XL with 7.1 build NDE63X.
My bootloader is UNLOCKED. My phone is notifying me that 7.1.1 update is available.
I just wanted confirmation that I can take this update without the risk of my bootloader re-locking?
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Nexus 6 that thinks it's a Pixel XL
grinchyyy said:
Question for you sir, I have a Verizon Pixel XL with 7.1 build NDE63X.
My bootloader is UNLOCKED. My phone is notifying me that 7.1.1 update is available.
I just wanted confirmation that I can take this update without the risk of my bootloader re-locking?
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I'll defer this question to the more Verizon knowledgeable.
My suspicion is you're good to go but I'm only 70% sure about that.
CZ Eddie said:
I'll defer this question to the more Verizon knowledgeable.
My suspicion is you're good to go but I'm only 70% sure about that.
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grinchyyy said:
Question for you sir, I have a Verizon Pixel XL with 7.1 build NDE63X.
My bootloader is UNLOCKED. My phone is notifying me that 7.1.1 update is available.
I just wanted confirmation that I can take this update without the risk of my bootloader re-locking?
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Nexus 6 that thinks it's a Pixel XL
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It will not re-lock your bootloader. I'm on Verizon with the Verizon variant of the Pixel XL. I took the 7.1.1 update and my bootloader stayed unlocked.
grinchyyy said:
Question for you sir, I have a Verizon Pixel XL with 7.1 build NDE63X.
My bootloader is UNLOCKED. My phone is notifying me that 7.1.1 update is available.
I just wanted confirmation that I can take this update without the risk of my bootloader re-locking?
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Nexus 6 that thinks it's a Pixel XL
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Updates can't lock your bootloader.
thecarp1975 said:
It will not re-lock your bootloader. I'm on Verizon with the Verizon variant of the Pixel XL. I took the 7.1.1 update and my bootloader stayed unlocked.
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airmaxx23 said:
Updates can't lock your bootloader.
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Thanks guys! Just wanted to be absolutely sure.
Sent from my Nexus 6 that thinks it's a Pixel XL
is it possible to for someone to dump 7.1.2 unlocked bootloader rom to install as a OTA update via ADB?
raybonz420 said:
is it possible to for someone to dump 7.1.2 unlocked bootloader rom to install as a OTA update via ADB?
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It's not necessarily impossible --nobody seems to have a 100% understanding of what the dual slots are doing on this phone. People who were on custom Roms and rooted have reported successfully taking a stock OTA update without boot looping their phones, although it did wipe out root and the custom recovery. But it's not a great idea to do it the way you suggest and basically hope you get lucky. You would be much better off unlocking the bootloader at least temporarily and flashing a full stock image from Google.
raybonz420 said:
is it possible to for someone to dump 7.1.2 unlocked bootloader rom to install as a OTA update via ADB?
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No, because you would not be able to properly sign the file you created so your phone would reject it. The whole Certificate signing thing is what I speak of, if the file isn't signed with a google cert the ota would fail.
TonikJDK said:
No, because you would not be able to properly sign the file you created so your phone would reject it. The whole Certificate signing thing is what I speak of, if the file isn't signed with a google cert the ota would fail.
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could it be signed using chainfires AVB?
raybonz420 said:
could it be signed using chainfires AVB?
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No, an ota has to be signed by google.

Unlock Verizon Pixel XL bootloader?

Alright, let's get right to it.
I am receiving a replacement Pixel XL after sending my original one back to Google. I purchased my original Pixel from Verizon and sent back to Google a Verizon Pixel with a locked bootloader (from 7.1.1 patch). Few questions....
1. Am I receiving a Google pixel XL with an unlocked bootloader?
I have read that I can unlock the bootloader and successfully root BEFORE I set up wifi and put the SIM card in... So
2. Will the device ship with 7.1.1 (Verizon), ending any chance of me unlocking the bootloader?
3. If the device ships with 7.1, can I prevent the update being installed in the background?
I put a screenshot with the email from google about the replacement device below.
Splatlame said:
Alright, let's get right to it.
I am receiving a replacement Pixel XL after sending my original one back to Google. I purchased my original Pixel from Verizon and sent back to Google a Verizon Pixel with a locked bootloader (from 7.1.1 patch). Few questions....
1. Am I receiving a Google pixel XL with an unlocked bootloader?
I have read that I can unlock the bootloader and successfully root BEFORE I set up wifi and put the SIM card in... So
2. Will the device ship with 7.1.1 (Verizon), ending any chance of me unlocking the bootloader?
3. If the device ships with 7.1, can I prevent the update being installed in the background?
I put a screenshot with the email from google about the replacement device below.
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1a. It says Verizon but you won't really know til you get it.
1b. You can only do that if the phone comes with 7.1 to avoid it updating to 7.1.1
2. Verizon does seem to be updating some of the phones now and I would assume the refurbished will have a higher chance of it.
3. You can shut off automatic updates but it seems to ignore it at times, so you should unlock right away if you want to do anything in the future.
jjayzx said:
1a. It says Verizon but you won't really know til you get it.
1b. You can only do that if the phone comes with 7.1 to avoid it updating to 7.1.1
2. Verizon does seem to be updating some of the phones now and I would assume the refurbished will have a higher chance of it.
3. You can shut off automatic updates but it seems to ignore it at times, so you should unlock right away if you want to do anything in the future.
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Excellent answers.
One more question though, I read that when you put in a Verizon sim card, that's what triggers the locking of the bootloader. So let's say I'm able to lock the bootloader, install TWRP, and SuperSU, and then I put in my sim card so I can actually use the phone, will putting in sim card have any affect on anything?
Splatlame said:
Excellent answers.
One more question though, I read that when you put in a Verizon sim card, that's what triggers the locking of the bootloader. So let's say I'm able to lock the bootloader, install TWRP, and SuperSU, and then I put in my sim card so I can actually use the phone, will putting in sim card have any affect on anything?
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I have a Pixel XL that I purchased directly from Google and I use it on Verizon. Powering up the phone the first time with the Verizon SIM gave me a message that the phone was activated but it did not re-lock my bootloader. That was my experience. Originally it would only connect to 3G and not LTE. I had previously used it on Fi. I had to delete the data(NOT Factory Reset) from the Fi app(with the Fi SIM still installed) and then power down, switch SIM's, then power up to get full 4G LTE connection on Verizon. After I deleted that Fi app data and powered up with the Verizon SIM it selected the normal VZWINTERNET APN and worked fine. Hope this helps. Again though the Verizon SIM did not re-lock my bootloader. This isn't to say they won't try to re-lock it in the future with an update.
Splatlame said:
I read that when you put in a Verizon sim card, that's what triggers the locking of the bootloader.
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Not true. I have a VZW Pixel on Project Fi. My bootloader can not be unlocked.
Now does unlocking the bootloader with 7.1 before the update kicks in a confirmed solution? Has this been tested? Or this is a theory?
And if this is a real way of doing it can someone link me to a thread with a verified procedure or help me out here.
I want to be 100% sure by the time the device comes in.
Splatlame said:
Now does unlocking the bootloader with 7.1 before the update kicks in a confirmed solution? Has this been tested? Or this is a theory?
And if this is a real way of doing it can someone link me to a thread with a verified procedure or help me out here.
I want to be 100% sure by the time the device comes in.
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Here is what you need if it is on 7.1
http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
TonikJDK said:
Here is what you need if it is on 7.1
http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
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That method does not work anymore.
bradhoschar said:
That method does not work anymore.
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He said if it's on 7.1
jjayzx said:
He said if it's on 7.1
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You're right.
On a side note, if anybody has a TRULY defective device on Verizon and want a Google replacement, see my post here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...-buying-verizon-edition-t3581406/post71866381

replacement device unlocking question

So, i broke my direct from google pixel xl, that was unlocked. I had insurance through verizon and they sent me a new one. Now, i know the verizon versions are locked, which is what i didn;t want, but i had no choice through asurion. The phone i received is on NHG47L which isn't the verizon version, but the OEM unlock is still grayed out. can anyone tell me why i can't unlock even though this seems to be a google fi/tmobile build?
i have no put a sim in it yet, i've only connected it to wifi. i'm waiting till i have a firm answer one way or the other.
@Legacystar,
See post #25 > https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/oem-unlocking-disabled-google-store-t3507209/page3
cam30era said:
@Legacystar,
See post #25 > https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/oem-unlocking-disabled-google-store-t3507209/page3
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i did connect it to wifi, it did not change the OEM unlock option.
@Legacystar,
One can sideload any version of security update via ADB. If you've connected to internet and bootloader unlock is still grayed out, then it sounds like you do indeed have a VZW version.
cam30era said:
@Legacystar,
One can sideload any version of security update via ADB. If you've connected to internet and bootloader unlock is still grayed out, then it sounds like you do indeed have a VZW version.
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Would flashing a factory image do anything, maybe a previous version?
Legacystar said:
Would flashing a factory image do anything, maybe a previous version?
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If you can't unlock your bootloader, then you can't flash a factory image. If this is a VZW version, there's nothing you can do.
cam30era said:
If you can't unlock your bootloader, then you can't flash a factory image. If this is a VZW version, there's nothing you can do.
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so, if the bootloader was never unlockable, how would one change the software version?
Legacystar said:
so, if the bootloader was never unlockable, how would one change the software version?
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ADB sideload. Or wait for OTA to be pushed.
cam30era said:
ADB sideload. Or wait for OTA to be pushed.
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i meant, how did this phone's software get changed?
Legacystar said:
i meant, how did this phone's software get changed?
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The firmware is downloaded based on the sim in the device. Not where it was purchased
pcriz said:
The firmware is downloaded based on the sim in the device. Not where it was purchased
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So theoretically, I could purchase a VZW pixel XL never connect to WiFi or data, and get home insert a T-Mobile sim and check the "OEM unlocking" then unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then once I've flashed recovery and pure Nexus or any other rom install my VZW sim and profit?
mattwheat said:
So theoretically, I could purchase a VZW pixel XL never connect to WiFi or data, and get home insert a T-Mobile sim and check the "OEM unlocking" then unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then once I've flashed recovery and pure Nexus or any other rom install my VZW sim and profit?
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You still need to use the bootloader exploit before the firmware updates to 7.1.1, can't just unlock via fastboot like a play store model.
pcriz said:
You still need to use the bootloader exploit before the firmware updates to 7.1.1, can't just unlock via fastboot like a play store model.
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Well I bought the 128gig pixel XL. Didn't let the sales person activate it for me or turn it on. I got it home and pulled the Sim and started it up with no Sim or wifi. My luck the freaking lcd doesn't work. It responds to touch and the phone boots but the screen would not light up a bit. So I took it back and exchanged for another. ....did the same with the Sim and no wifi.... Booted and straight to "About Phone" and of course it's on 7.1.1 already. This is the first phone I've had in 5-6 years that wasn't rooted and bootloader unlocked. What makes it even worse is it's a Google branded phone. I can't believe Google allows VZW to lock it down like this.
mattwheat said:
Well I bought the 128gig pixel XL. Didn't let the sales person activate it for me or turn it on. I got it home and pulled the Sim and started it up with no Sim or wifi. My luck the freaking lcd doesn't work. It responds to touch and the phone boots but the screen would not light up a bit. So I took it back and exchanged for another. ....did the same with the Sim and no wifi.... Booted and straight to "About Phone" and of course it's on 7.1.1 already. This is the first phone I've had in 5-6 years that wasn't rooted and bootloader unlocked. What makes it even worse is it's a Google branded phone. I can't believe Google allows VZW to lock it down like this.
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Verizon isn't the only carrier to lock it down. Google has never been implicitly root friendly, also I'm sure a partner ship with verizon is to their benefit. Like getting their foot in the door to a wider market. The trade off is the bootloader.

Verzion Google Pixel 2 XL Bootloader/Oem Unlocking?

Hi all, I recently bought an "unlocked" google pixel 2 XL on ebay from a generally trusted seller but I have been super frustrated with issues I'm having with trying to unlock my bootloader and enabling OEM unlocking. The button literally remains grey and I have tried many things to get it to toggle but it won't (sim card, terminal commands, resetting multiple times). I'm also doing this on a mac since I don't have a pc. The command tells me it is not allowed.
It is Android 9. I found out from another user that it is because it was originally Verizon. I have looked through a lot of the helpful xda forums and threads but I haven't found one that lays out a method for unlocking Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL.
Is there a simpler way to unlock it, does anyone know? Could I go straight to Verizon and ask them to unlock it for me? I'm super frustrated or am I SOL and should return the phone? This is my first time using an android so I would appreciate any help.
Thank you very much in advance.
Since nobody else is replying. I think your sol if it is indeed a Verizon phone. There's a discussion on xda about it.
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Nothing you can do. Just install the 11 beta and enjoy life.
Think of it this way. Since root isn't possible for you passing Safetynet will never be a problem.
I have the same issue. What I've found is OEM unlock isn't available because your pixel was originally on Verizon
Mine is verizon i just received the QQA3 update oem unlocked was available in a hurry i unlocked it without hesitation
nobreak1970 said:
Nothing you can do. Just install the 11 beta and enjoy life.
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Hm, if you load dsu, from there it's still locked right? if it's possible... i've seen in dev options, but never tried tho... previously it required unlocked boot, but since it's in dev options.....
tfat1000 said:
Mine is verizon i just received the QQA3 update oem unlocked was available in a hurry i unlocked it without hesitation
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You got lucky. Most people on here were disappointed.
Hexlay said:
Hm, if you load dsu, from there it's still locked right? if it's possible... i've seen in dev options, but never tried tho... previously it required unlocked boot, but since it's in dev options.....
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It's not possible as the bootloader will still be locked. Its presence in developer options doesn't change that.
The only way to get past the bootloader lock, if you're not one of the lucky ones like @tfat, is to install a ROM using the device's emergency mode. The problem is getting a firmware package that uses that mode. A regular ROM download won't cut it.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You got lucky. Most people on here were disappointed.
It's not possible as the bootloader will still be locked. Its presence in developer options doesn't change that.
The only way to get past the bootloader lock, if you're not one of the lucky ones like @tfat, is to install a ROM using the device's emergency mode. The problem is getting a firmware package that uses that mode. A regular ROM download won't cut it.
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Yes, boot will still be locked, but since GSI image is basically a stock version of OS, it would not come with Verizon services and maybe toggle will be unlocked?
Hexlay said:
Yes, boot will still be locked, but since GSI image is basically a stock version of OS, it would not come with Verizon services and maybe toggle will be unlocked?
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It won't work as you must have an unlocked bootloader to even install the GSI image. There is a 50+ page thread detailing attempts to unlock the Verizon device. No one on that thread succeeded. If what you proposed did work that thread wouldn't exist as yours is one of the easiest solutions.
Unless you can unlock the bootloader or somehow get a tech center restore image using emergency mode you're dead in the water. And don't think you can simply guess the decryption key either. To find the key would currently require spending an amount of time greater than the current age of the universe.
EDIT: Finally, check out the factory images page for our device. Notice how for the most part there are no images specifically for Verizon? That's because the device uses a different method to identify itself as a Verizon device. It's almost a certainty that the IMEI is part of it.
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-verizon-google-pixel-xl-running-android-10/
我從使用 Tapatalk 的 Pixel 2 XL 發送
hsiehboss said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-verizon-google-pixel-xl-running-android-10/
我從使用 Tapatalk 的 Pixel 2 XL 發送
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Ok...well that link is for the OG Pixel/XL. NOT our 2xl.
nobreak1970 said:
Ok...well that link is for the OG Pixel/XL. NOT our 2xl.
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Clearly English isn't his first language, but how difficult can it be to distinguish between the OG Pixel and the Pixel 2 XL?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-verizon-google-pixel-xl-running-android-10/
我從使用 Tapatalk 的 Pixel 2 XL 發送
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This method only works on the Pixel 1. You can get to the point where you can toggle the "OEM Unlocking" switch (in my testing its always defaulted to on once togglable), but running "fastboot flashing unlock" fails.
According to the person who found this method out, it's because the Pixel 2 has an on-board security chip that deals with OEM unlocking, with the 1st gen Pixel doesn't have :/
It's probably a very safe bet, and sad to say, that since no one found a way to unlock the Verizon Pixel 2 XLs in it's 2.5 years of existence, there will be little if any work put into finding a way at the 3 year mark with 2 (maybe 3) newer models on the market since the 2 XL became available.

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