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Not sure if this is just how the phone is or if mine's defective. If anyone isn't having the following issues PLEASE reply so I can call up Sony and hopefully get a new one if this isn't the norm.
-Phone gets pretty hot, I know the phone's back is metal but it's hot enough to worry about imo. Happens when I've got a large file downloading or playing games like Modern Combat 3. Just to note I kill all background tasks quite often and especially before playing a game.
-Touch screen is buggy and requires a hard reset to fix. After MC3 crashing twice on me my screen became nearly unresponsive and if it did register anything it'd bug out.
-When listening to music it sorta drops out every once in a while, equivalent to a CD skipping? Idk how else to really put it.
Thanks in advance!
Well over heating is common in android phones. Mines reach 49 degrees Celsius while playing minecraft. But for the other issues, they seem like memory issues
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ninja08 said:
Well over heating is common in android phones. Mines reach 49 degrees Celsius while playing minecraft. But for the other issues, they seem like memory issues
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Memory as in CPU usage than this phone needs to be rooted badly, memory as in free space shouldn't be an issue, I've got gigs of space on both the internal and external SD cards.
SU1CiDE said:
Memory as in CPU usage than this phone needs to be rooted badly, memory as in free space shouldn't be an issue, I've got gigs of space on both the internal and external SD cards.
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CPU. I agree this phone does need it.
ninja08 said:
CPU. I agree this phone does need it.
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Is 200 M really that bad? I've never seen it go below that. And I had an Aria that ran down to like 75 M sometimes and it didn't affect it that badly
SU1CiDE said:
Is 200 M really that bad? I've never seen it go below that. And I had an Aria that ran down to like 75 M sometimes and it didn't affect it that badly
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shouldn't be the cpu. my x10 is always below 30mb XD
btw, don't use any task killers. they won't help but only mess up the way your phone works.
however, you can try using an app called "system panel." set up the monitor function and see which app is doing the wrong thing
0000alex0000 said:
shouldn't be the cpu. my x10 is always below 30mb XD
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I definitely have a defective Ion then. I just repaired the phone through the SUS so I'll have to see how that works out.
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btw, don't use any task killers. they won't help but only mess up the way your phone works.
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What makes you say that? Just curious 'cause the task killer I have always used has helped all my phones so far. My (extremely low spec btw) HTC Aria only worked so well because of it.
SU1CiDE said:
What makes you say that? Just curious 'cause the task killer I have always used has helped all my phones so far. My (extremely low spec btw) HTC Aria only worked so well because of it.
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http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
I guess the Ion is one of the phones they have a negative effect on, thanks for that.
I haven't picked one of these up yet, so I'm curious. Could someone check the available RAM after a fresh boot and tell me what it is?
I'm interested to see how much of the 3GB Touchwiz (and associated apps) takes and how much we actually have available to us.
7when I clear the ram it's roughly 2.5GB. tthat's after it closes 23 or so active apps.
Thanks. I'm sure a lot of those apps start right back up. I'm more interested in the available ram after a fresh boot because that will be a more accurate picture of what we have to work with.
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fresh boot 1.4GB for my set up.
madsquabbles said:
fresh boot 1.4GB for my set up.
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Thanks! Wow, that tablet uses over half the ram for the system? I was thinking maybe a gig, but that's crazy.
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I doubt it's all for the system. a lot of that bloatware is probably sucking up a bit too. as well as a few apps that I have running at staert up. 1.4GB is still quite a bit for an android tablet.
madsquabbles said:
I doubt it's all for the system. a lot of that bloatware is probably sucking up a bit too. as well as a few apps that I have running at staert up. 1.4GB is still quite a bit for an android tablet.
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It is, I guess. My Nexus 10 sits around 500 free and it tends to refresh a lot, so I guess we still get a lot more overhead on this tablet.
Thanks again for checking.
Hi. I bought the 551 version with 2gb ram and 16gb memory a few days ago. So far the experience has been good. I'm just having problems running the game I regularly play, Crusaders Quest. It slows down to a crawl at times specially if I don't reboot my phone. I'm thinking it's a ram problem. Maybe I should get the 4gb ram one? Or it won't make a difference? Or is it the limitations of the GPU? Should I just switch to the nexus 5 instead?
Appreciate if you guys would chime in before I decide to sell the phone over the weekend. Thanks.
prinzhernan said:
Hi. I bought the 551 version with 2gb ram and 16gb memory a few days ago. So far the experience has been good. I'm just having problems running the game I regularly play, Crusaders Quest. It slows down to a crawl at times specially if I don't reboot my phone. I'm thinking it's a ram problem. Maybe I should get the 4gb ram one? Or it won't make a difference? Or is it the limitations of the GPU? Should I just switch to the nexus 5 instead?
Appreciate if you guys would chime in before I decide to sell the phone over the weekend. Thanks.
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I bought the 551 with 4 gig RAM, and 64 gig HDD. I came from the note 4 edge and haven't looked back. If you let me know what games specifically you are playing I can test them out, but this phone hasn't even broken a sweat for anything I need it to do.
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Hi. I bought the 551 version with 2gb ram and 16gb memory a few days ago. So far the experience has been good. I'm just having problems running the game I regularly play, Crusaders Quest. It slows down to a crawl at times specially if I don't reboot my phone. I'm thinking it's a ram problem. Maybe I should get the 4gb ram one? Or it won't make a difference? Or is it the limitations of the GPU? Should I just switch to the nexus 5 instead?
Appreciate if you guys would chime in before I decide to sell the phone over the weekend. Thanks.
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should be related to memory leak in android 5.0.1.. 2gb ram was never enough if memory leak is not fixed..4gb version still can manage and handle the leak, no solution so far unless you root it and install xposed fix memory leak module which also helped me in my case..other than that, just wait till asus push higher version of android such as 5.1 that was said to have better memory management..
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I bought the 551 with 4 gig RAM, and 64 gig HDD. I came from the note 4 edge and haven't looked back. If you let me know what games specifically you are playing I can test them out, but this phone hasn't even broken a sweat for anything I need it to do.
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Could you try playing crusaders quest please. I'd like to know the performance before I get the 4gb one one later.
cangcan said:
should be related to memory leak in android 5.0.1.. 2gb ram was never enough if memory leak is not fixed..4gb version still can manage and handle the leak, no solution so far unless you root it and install xposed fix memory leak module which also helped me in my case..other than that, just wait till asus push higher version of android such as 5.1 that was said to have better memory management..
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Thanks for the explanation. Didn't know a about that since my last android device was kitkat and it was a tablet.
just tried it on my 4gb 1.83ghz zenfone 2. zero lag with the game, but boy that in game graphic is terrible.
jdaclutch said:
just tried it on my 4gb 1.83ghz zenfone 2. zero lag with the game, but boy that in game graphic is terrible.
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Thanks a lot man. Haha. You mean by terrible, the graphics look like 8bit Gameboy or whatnot? It's really like that and I like games like that. Did you go to the actual battle?
Could be throttling due to temps. Its highly unlikely this game is slowing down due to RAM/GPU/CPU unless the device is throttling. What's your ambient temperature there?
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Could be throttling due to temps. Its highly unlikely this game is slowing down due to RAM/GPU/CPU unless the device is throttling. What's your ambient temperature there?
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It's around 40 degrees Celsius here. So you really think it's not a ram problem? When I run the game I can't even multi task. If I leave the app when I go back to it, it relaunches.
prinzhernan said:
It's around 40 degrees Celsius here. So you really think it's not a ram problem? When I run the game I can't even multi task. If I leave the app when I go back to it, it relaunches.
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Yea. That's hot, man. Your phone is likely throttling.
The issue with it closing when multitasking is a Asus kernel setting issue. Check your free RAM. I don't believe its a 5.0 leak issue. The leak manifests itself differently than this.
The 4gb version will help with apps closing, but not with the throttling. The Zenfone 2 is beyond powerful enough to run this game.
40°C is still cool enough..i think i remember that i read somewhere before, zenfone kernel started to throttle cpu when it reach 55°c, correct me if im wrong..but unlike my samsung S3, when using lollipop custom rom the temperature usually stays on 40-47°C while using the phone, so phone like this powerful zf2 should not have any problem even on 40°C..but just my two cent yet, anything can be a problem on this phone, unless they update in to newer lollipop and unlock BL so developer may help to improve the kernel and rom level of zf2..
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It's around 40 degrees Celsius here. So you really think it's not a ram problem? When I run the game I can't even multi task. If I leave the app when I go back to it, it relaunches.
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its the problem of low free ram only,dont worry.I guess after updating to latest 5.1 x64bit lollipop...it wont have ram issues hopefully,and this prob only in 2gb,4gb can easily kill anyother phone interms of multitasking
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40°C is still cool enough..i think i remember that i read somewhere before, zenfone kernel started to throttle cpu when it reach 55°c, correct me if im wrong..but unlike my samsung S3, when using lollipop custom rom the temperature usually stays on 40-47°C while using the phone, so phone like this powerful zf2 should not have any problem even on 40°C..but just my two cent yet, anything can be a problem on this phone, unless they update in to newer lollipop and unlock BL so developer may help to improve the kernel and rom level of zf2..
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40c is his ambient temperature, man... Not the temp of the phone.
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ansebovi said:
its the problem of low free ram only,dont worry.I guess after updating to latest 5.1 x64bit lollipop...it wont have ram issues hopefully,and this prob only in 2gb,4gb can easily kill anyother phone interms of multitasking
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Yes, you'll have far fewer RAM issues with 4gb. I thought you were having other issues, according to your OP.
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Thanks a lot man. Haha. You mean by terrible, the graphics look like 8bit Gameboy or whatnot? It's really like that and I like games like that. Did you go to the actual battle?
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yes, can't stand that 8bit graphic, didn't even want to get into the actual battle because of the graphic...the phone itself is fine.
I do find this phone heats up more than others I've used....would like to find a custom back, something that would allow greater airflow for gaming. If you play a heavy game, just pop the case off and let the extra airflow through.
Hi All, I was playing contest of champion from kabam, my problem is that when I just launch the game it look really nice in full HD graphic, and after 2 games when the heat goes up, no more HD , and when play after about 1/2 hour the graphic start choppy or even stuck in some point. anyone having the same problem ? Thanks
This might be because zf2 has 64-bit processor running with 32-bit lollipop......32-bit won't handle 64-bit efficiently
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According to anandtech's review, the Zenfone 2 is not affected by throttling issues. Maybe the game you want to play is not x86 friendly and the slowdowns are because of binary translation (ARM emulation).
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This might be because zf2 has 64-bit processor running with 32-bit lollipop......32-bit won't handle 64-bit efficiently
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it's not 32bit lollipop, CPU Z clearly says the kernel is 64 bit. plus, how can a 32bit OS manage 4 gb of RAM?
Buk-Lau said:
it's not 32bit lollipop, CPU Z clearly says the kernel is 64 bit. plus, how can a 32bit OS manage 4 gb of RAM?
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It could.
That said yes, it's a 64b version. Even about phone will show x86_64.
40C Yep, ambient temp and that's HOT -> phone starts OUT AT 40C, so pretty much ANY stress on it's going to hit thermal throttling PDQ.
I just noticed that in the Running Services, System takes more than 800 MB of RAM and if I open the camera app, it could take up to 1GB of RAM. I tried to boot into safe mode, unfortunately it doesn't make things any better. System still takes more than 600 MB of RAM. And after 1-2 days on without a reboot, it takes more than 700 MB of RAM again.
However, everything's fine on my Nexus 5(6.0) and Z3C(5.1), system always uses at most 600 MB of RAM. I don't need to reboot these phones every 2 days which I have to do with my 5X otherwise it will become intolerable slow. People always say the reason your phone is lagging and stuttering must be related to those 3rd-party apps you've installed, but those apps I installed are exactly the same with my other phones.
I also found some people don't have any performance issue at all... But I don't think it's something with the hardware. Maybe system on nexus 5x need to use that much RAM because of the camera and fingerprint scanner? But one thing I'm pretty sure is that my phone gets very laggy after 2 or 3 days... App redraws are killing me...
I noticed the same thing. When I reboot my phone after 2-3 days I notice the speed different a LOT.
Even though the same usage is the same.
Is your phone encrypted / encrypted?
im running uber rom unencrypted and have similar system usage (790-810 MB).
Checked system usage an hour later and was back down to 600 MB.
5X is a 64bit phone, so the system and apps may use more memory.
Looks like 5x buyers run into the same **** like Nexus 9...? There is something going wrong in the OS and Google not able to fix it, or they have been fatally wrong when they decided that 2 GB is enough ram.
zurih said:
I noticed the same thing. When I reboot my phone after 2-3 days I notice the speed different a LOT.
Even though the same usage is the same.
Is your phone encrypted / encrypted?
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Encrypted. Will unencrypt my phone improve the performance?
shallowscar said:
Encrypted. Will unencrypt my phone improve the performance?
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I'm not sure but I'm testing it now. I decrypted my phone yesterday and waiting to see if there any performance/memory advantages.
If not I might as-well encrypt it again for more security.
The NEXUS 9 was 64 bit and had 2 gb ram, likewise for the NEXUS 5x, however I found the memory management is much better, 3gb should have been used for 5x and 9 and 4gb for 6p.
I'm coming from a nexus 6p, planning to move to a 5x due to the size of 6p. My main concern is the battery life and Ram. Does the phone run out of ram? My nexus 6p averages at 1.9gb. Please post your experience.
Unfortunately yes. Battery life for me is about 30 min less than 6p. Nexus 6p for my usage seems not to run out of RAM, where on the 5x every 5th or 6th App has to reload.
The good point is, as long as you can life with these tradeofs, you can enjoy the better handling of the 5x
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Unfortunately yes. Battery life for me is about 30 min less than 6p. Nexus 6p for my usage seems not to run out of RAM, where on the 5x every 5th or 6th App has to reload.
The good point is, as long as you can life with these tradeofs, you can enjoy the better handling of the 5x
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Does it hiccup or stutter due to insufficient ram? I've heard that Snapchat lags on nexus 5x due to low ram. I don't mind if it didn't keep more than 3 or 4 apps in memory. All i am worried about is thw stutter.
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Does it hiccup or stutter due to insufficient ram? I've heard that Snapchat lags on nexus 5x due to low ram. I don't mind if it didn't keep more than 3 or 4 apps in memory. All i am worried about is thw stutter.
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Don't have Snapchat, so can't Test it. But overall never realized stutter.
Kookaburra88 said:
Don't have Snapchat, so can't Test it. But overall never realized stutter.
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Thanks for your help
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Thanks for your help
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You're welcome Bro!
Make sure to get a reatively fresh build Nexus 5x. These seem to have a way better Screen, at least for me.
My first 5X had a lot more stutter and lag than my current replacement. 3-4 apps does sound about right. Maybe 5-6 if they're lighter apps. But after that you will get refreshing, just not stuttering.
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