Got International HTC 10 on Ebay, doesn't get LTE on T-Mobile HELP - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

I bought a new HTC 10 on ebay and it's the unlocked international version. I didn't realize there is a US unlocked and International variants, I assumed carrier unlocked was an international variant. I'm on Tmobile which aparently uses some band that I'm not able to pick up and therefore I've been relegated to hspa for my data. Quite disappointing.
Can I S-Off and change to either Super CID or the TMobile CID and flash the radio and firmware for T-Mobile and get the phone to pick up the LTE so i can get my high speed data?
I can't find anywhere that tells me if the hardware is the same and that the radio is software configurable and therefore can activate the AWS bands with the correct radio/firmware/ruu or something of the like..
Did I totally blow it buying the int'l version of the 10 unlocked, or can I hack it to run properly on Tmobile LTE?

punkboyinsf said:
I bought a new HTC 10 on ebay and it's the unlocked international version. I didn't realize there is a US unlocked and International variants, I assumed carrier unlocked was an international variant. I'm on Tmobile which aparently uses some band that I'm not able to pick up and therefore I've been relegated to hspa for my data. Quite disappointing.
Can I S-Off and change to either Super CID or the TMobile CID and flash the radio and firmware for T-Mobile and get the phone to pick up the LTE so i can get my high speed data?
I can't find anywhere that tells me if the hardware is the same and that the radio is software configurable and therefore can activate the AWS bands with the correct radio/firmware/ruu or something of the like..
Did I totally blow it buying the int'l version of the 10 unlocked, or can I hack it to run properly on Tmobile LTE?
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Yes you can do that. Get S-Off, change your CID and MID and flash US Unlocked.

xunholyx said:
Yes you can do that. Get S-Off, change your CID and MID and flash US Unlocked.
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Very good to know. Follow up. Is this easy enough to reverse if I need to use my warranty?

punkboyinsf said:
Very good to know. Follow up. Is this easy enough to reverse if I need to use my warranty?
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Yes, the same process but in reverse.

Tarima said:
Yes, the same process but in reverse.
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OK. so I did all that and am now running unlocked us firmware. I think I'm having the LTE reception issues I had read about. flashing the T-Mobile ruu should fix that right?
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Thanks a million for the prompt replies BTW. I've had this phone for a couple minutes and I feel good to finally get things working like they should be.

punkboyinsf said:
OK. so I did all that and am now running unlocked us firmware. I think I'm having the LTE reception issues I had read about. flashing the T-Mobile ruu should fix that right?
Ps
Thanks a million for the prompt replies BTW. I've had this phone for a couple minutes and I feel good to finally get things working like they should be.
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I can't vouch for the ruu fixing your lte issues. I've seen mixed reporting around for stuff like this. I would try it and see if it works.

punkboyinsf said:
OK. so I did all that and am now running unlocked us firmware. I think I'm having the LTE reception issues I had read about. flashing the T-Mobile ruu should fix that right?
Ps
Thanks a million for the prompt replies BTW. I've had this phone for a couple minutes and I feel good to finally get things working like they should be.
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Well, T-mobile has been doing upgrades on the network and there has been a lot of space weather causing power outages and hiccups in other electronic devices. My home WiFi has been connecting and dropping left and right! I too have the T-mobile version of the HTC 10 but I did unlock the SIM and did the full conversion to the North American unlocked developer version and it has been absolutely issue free!! You might want to double check to see if the radios in the International version are using band 12,and band 4 for LTE... I lost my LTE after a long run doing the same thing with the original HTC One M7

I feel your pain
punkboyinsf said:
I bought a new HTC 10 on ebay and it's the unlocked international version. I didn't realize there is a US unlocked and International variants, I assumed carrier unlocked was an international variant. I'm on Tmobile which aparently uses some band that I'm not able to pick up and therefore I've been relegated to hspa for my data. Quite disappointing.
Can I S-Off and change to either Super CID or the TMobile CID and flash the radio and firmware for T-Mobile and get the phone to pick up the LTE so i can get my high speed data?
I can't find anywhere that tells me if the hardware is the same and that the radio is software configurable and therefore can activate the AWS bands with the correct radio/firmware/ruu or something of the like..
Did I totally blow it buying the int'l version of the 10 unlocked, or can I hack it to run properly on Tmobile LTE?
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Unfortunately HTC enabled/disabled certain LTE bands in the modem firmware depending on the region. The unlocked international doesn't play nice with T-mobile AWS. Flashing the RUU doesn't change the NV values in the modem, so you'll still be stuck with HSPA for the most part. I'm in AZ, and I can get band 12 and sometimes the non-AWS band 4, but neither are super fast. The snapdragon 820 does support all the necessary bands, they just need to be unlocked. We have the issue that qualcomm has put protection on the LTE firmware, so the old way of using QXDM/QPST doesn't work like it did on the 810 and earlier chipsets. There's some other threads on here that thing a custom kernel might open up the possibility of using the QXDM to edit NV values to unlock the necessary bands.

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T-Mobile M8 patch 4 Verizon M8

Is there a patch to make my vzw M8 work like it was a native Tmo M8?
No. Hardware is different.
Verizon has CDMA chipset and the TMO verison is a GSM chipset.
IAmSixNine said:
No. Hardware is different.
Verizon has CDMA chipset and the TMO verison is a GSM chipset.
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That's not true...
My phone is Fully unlocked and gets everything from Edge to Legit LTE.
My phone works. I just need it to work a bit better.
And the reason you want it to work better is because its not the correct version for the carrier you want it to work on.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6233&idPhone2=6074
The bands are almost identical with the Verizon unit missing 1700mhz on the HSDPA side.
Either way if you want it to work like its supposed to get the branded one. Unlocking will work but in most cases something is always missing.
could be specific software, or the way the device works with the network, or an entire band or what ever.
Bottom line is ditch the unlocked verizon and go with a branded tmobile unit.
ericerk said:
That's not true...
My phone is Fully unlocked and gets everything from Edge to Legit LTE.
My phone works. I just need it to work a bit better.
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Since you seem to already know the answer then go ahead and flash a tmobile or any other gsm rom to your phone and see how fast you brick it.
IAmSixNine said:
And the reason you want it to work better is because its not the correct version for the carrier you want it to work on.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6233&idPhone2=6074
The bands are almost identical with the Verizon unit missing 1700mhz on the HSDPA side.
Either way if you want it to work like its supposed to get the branded one. Unlocking will work but in most cases something is always missing.
could be specific software, or the way the device works with the network, or an entire band or what ever.
Bottom line is ditch the unlocked verizon and go with a branded tmobile unit.
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Now that makes sense.
What a bummer.
Using CyanogenMod M9 with Verizon M8 on Tmobile
I have found that this works pretty well for me. CyanogenMod 11 M9 (I cant link to it, forum wont allow me to)
I have not had any issues with that build using a Verizon M8 on the Tmobile network.

WiFi calling on non-branded M8

I'm considering switching from ATT, but my understanding is that wifi calling is only available with TMO branded phones. Mine is the factory unlocked model (BS_US001/0P6B12000). I'm SuperCID, so was wondering if I could emulate a TMO phone by flashing their RUU. Would I have to change my MID (if that is even possible)?
bruce7373 said:
I'm considering switching from ATT, but my understanding is that wifi calling is only available with TMO branded phones. Mine is the factory unlocked model (BS_US001/0P6B12000). I'm SuperCID, so was wondering if I could emulate a TMO phone by flashing their RUU. Would I have to change my MID (if that is even possible)?
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yes change the mid then u can flash there ruu
[email protected] said:
yes change the mid then u can flash there ruu
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Did u try this yet ?
I have a vas m8 running on tmo and in the viperone threads in the general HTC one m8 section, j to the an, said if I tried something like that it would go for a hard brick easy. But my be cuz my phone is a cdma variant? Who knows. I just ask.
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There are a few custom ROMs that allow TMO WiFi calling. I know, and have tested, both Viper and Sky Dragon. While they are obviously not stock, they both work on my BS_US002.
Just flash T-MO RUU after SuperCid'ing. I have the same terminal and got around that issue following those steps!. Remember to do your backups.
rpimentel1 said:
Just flash T-MO RUU after SuperCid'ing. I have the same terminal and got around that issue following those steps!. Remember to do your backups.
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I was assuming you has a gsm varient when I said change the mid then flash their ruu. At&t and t-mobile are gsm, Verizon and Sprint varients are cdma . Never mix gsm and cdma anything,if your varient is cdma don't bother looking at gsm formums at all
[email protected] said:
I was assuming you has a gsm varient when I said change the mid then flash their ruu. At&t and t-mobile are gsm, Verizon and Sprint varients are cdma . Never mix gsm and cdma anything,if your varient is cdma don't bother looking at gsm formums at all
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op is AT&T (GSM) wants to emulate TMO (GSM) as well. what are you talking about?
rpimentel1 said:
op is AT&T (GSM) wants to emulate TMO (GSM) as well. what are you talking about?
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Taking about me. Cuz I'm vzw and AT&T is gsm. I forgot bout that, duh... But I am able to run gsm type Rom with little to no problem....I'm just looking to see how I can enable all gsm lte bands for use. I try to drive and between towers I lose signal and can't reconnect, so I either have to toggle airplane to get it back, or just use hspa. It runs ok... But I'd like to get full potential.
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rpalmerin said:
Taking about me. Cuz I'm vzw and AT&T is gsm. I forgot bout that, duh... But I am able to run gsm type Rom with little to no problem....I'm just looking to see how I can enable all gsm lte bands for use. I try to drive and between towers I lose signal and can't reconnect, so I either have to toggle airplane to get it back, or just use hspa. It runs ok... But I'd like to get full potential.
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Sounds like some sort of Kernel incompatibility, have you tried reinstalling everything from scratch?
rpalmerin said:
Taking about me. Cuz I'm vzw and AT&T is gsm. I forgot bout that, duh... But I am able to run gsm type Rom with little to no problem....I'm just looking to see how I can enable all gsm lte bands for use. I try to drive and between towers I lose signal and can't reconnect, so I either have to toggle airplane to get it back, or just use hspa. It runs ok... But I'd like to get full potential.
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A Cdma varient never can be full potential of the gsm varient. i use to have the sprint varient and i unlocked it to tmobile, yes it worked, but it wouldnt stay connected to tmobile, i would constantly have to manually search for tmobile network, so if i never looked at my phone it would just disconnect by itself, i received calls fine but text messages would come once i connected to tmobile again.
plus the hardware is just not capable of all the gsm bands, so to get full potential, sell it and get a gsm one

Can I use the H/K Sprint M8 on T-Mobile and get LTE?

Looked around and not sure if this is even possible. Could I get a H/K M8, unlock it and use on T-Mobile's network to receive LTE? Thanks!
Is there a reason why you are looking at the Sprint version?
Its been argued whether the CDMA versions of the M8 are any different in hardware, but I haven't seen anything definitive either way. I'd err on the side of caution, assume the CDMA version is different hardware, and stay away from it. Buy any GSM version and you can convert it to work on T-Mobile (after s-off, unlocking the bootloader, etc.), no question there.
quailallstar said:
Looked around and not sure if this is even possible. Could I get a H/K M8, unlock it and use on T-Mobile's network to receive LTE? Thanks!
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no, Sprint version got some weird **** to it...
redpoint73 said:
Is there a reason why you are looking at the Sprint version?
Its been argued whether the CDMA versions of the M8 are any different in hardware, but I haven't seen anything definitive either way. I'd err on the side of caution, assume the CDMA version is different hardware, and stay away from it. Buy any GSM version and you can convert it to work on T-Mobile (after s-off, unlocking the bootloader, etc.), no question there.
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The only reason I'm looking for the Sprint version is because of the look. I like the dark back metal and gold upfront a lot. Sucks its an exclusive look only to Sprint. I read that you can flash the other non H/K models to have the same software so that is confirmed and all good.
Now I need to find someone who is using this Sprint model and can confirm it has the needed GSM radio(s) for TMO LTE.
quailallstar said:
The only reason I'm looking for the Sprint version is because of the look. I like the dark back metal and gold upfront a lot. Sucks its an exclusive look only to Sprint. I read that you can flash the other non H/K models to have the same software so that is confirmed and all good.
Now I need to find someone who is using this Sprint model and can confirm it has the needed GSM radio(s) for TMO LTE.
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I'm pretty sure that Sprint models are CDMA only. You can't use their phones on GSM networks. I don't think what you are trying to do will work. I may be wrong here, but I really doubt I am.
xunholyx said:
I'm pretty sure that Sprint models are CDMA only. You can't use their phones on GSM networks. I don't think what you are trying to do will work. I may be wrong here, but I really doubt I am.
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This is incorrect (that the Sprint variant does not work on GSM). Both the Verizon and Sprint variants support GSM and CDMA. Folk on here (including myself) tend to refer to them as "CDMA" for simplicity; but they are in fact also compatible with GSM, as well as HSPA, LTE.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)_cdma-6233.php
Now the question is whether the difference between the GSM and "CDMA" variants are purely in software, or there is an actual hardware difference. Its been argued both way, and I haven't seen any proof either way (although my gut tells me the latter is the case). And the question relevant to the OP is whether the T-Mobile LTE bands can be "added" to the Sprint device by software.
I used a verizon LG g2 on T-mobile a few and the phone im writing on now is a verizon iPhone full lte but i dont know aboit the sprint versions

LTE?

My phone fully supports LTE,even the sim card i use is 4G compatible,but somehow i'm not able to use it.And yes,i'm in LTE covering area.Any ideas?
Was LTE working for you before?
What I recommend first is to try your sim on another lte capable phone and/or sim with working lte on your phone
RaZaR1998 said:
My phone fully supports LTE
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How do you know this? There is no M8 version that supports all LTE bands in all regions.Every M8 version supports different LTE bands, based on the region/version (carrier ID).
In particular, if you are using an M8 version intended for another region, it may be difficult of impossible to make it work on LTE on your local carrier's network.
redpoint73 said:
How do you know this? There is no M8 version that supports all LTE bands in all regions.Every M8 version supports different LTE bands, based on the region/version (carrier ID).
In particular, if you are using an M8 version intended for another region, it may be difficult of impossible to make it work on LTE on your local carrier's network.
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My M8 is T-MOB version.Maybe ,,transforming" to EU can fix that?
RaZaR1998 said:
My M8 is T-MOB version.Maybe ,,transforming" to EU can fix that?
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What bands or bands does your carrier use for LTE?
Which T-Mobile version? US or Europe?
redpoint73 said:
What bands or bands does your carrier use for LTE?
Which T-Mobile version? US or Europe?
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LTE B3 (1800 +).Not sure if it is EU or US
What OS number in bootloader? Does it say s-of or s-off in bootloader?
Assuming it is T-Mob US (which would be more common than T-Mob Europe): As I already said, making LTE work on a device that is intended for another region can be difficult, or even impossible. You would need s-off to "convert" it to EU. S-off (if it isn't already) can only be achieved with sunshine, which costs $25. And it may be money wasted, since a lot of times, we've seen when the M8 is converted to another version, LTE will still not connect to the local carrier's network.
redpoint73 said:
What OS number in bootloader? Does it say s-of or s-off in bootloader?
Assuming it is T-Mob US (which would be more common than T-Mob Europe): As I already said, making LTE work on a device that is intended for another region can be difficult, or even impossible. You would need s-off to "convert" it to EU. S-off (if it isn't already) can only be achieved with sunshine, which costs $25. And it may be money wasted, since a lot of times, we've seen when the M8 is converted to another version, LTE will still not connect to the local carrier's network.
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I'm S-Off(written the same way in bootloader).So at least it's worth a shot.

Verizon variant on AT&T, no LTE even with APN settings and LTE simcard?

The subject says it all, really. I bought a used HTC 10 on ebay. Like many of them, it is Verizon branded, but I had read that it should support all US LTE bands? The model # on it is HTC6545L, sku HTC6545LVW and FCC ID NM82PS6500.
No dice so far. I input the APN settings from here, and that got me from voice-only to HSPA+. No LTE, though.
The sim card came right out of my HTC M8, which is always on LTE at the same location, using the same card.
Could I get it working by flashing different firmware or an RUU?
Any help greatly appreciated.
Nathan2 said:
The subject says it all, really. I bought a used HTC 10 on ebay. Like many of them, it is Verizon branded, but I had read that it should support all US LTE bands? The model # on it is HTC6545L, sku HTC6545LVW and FCC ID NM82PS6500.
No dice so far. I input the APN settings from here, and that got me from voice-only to HSPA+. No LTE, though.
The sim card came right out of my HTC M8, which is always on LTE at the same location, using the same card.
Could I get it working by flashing different firmware or an RUU?
Any help greatly appreciated.
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If you are SOFF, Convert the phone to US Unlocked
aer0zer0 said:
If you are SOFF, Convert the phone to US Unlocked
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Whoops, I had assumed I could just use Sunshine but it looks like the only way to S-OFF is to physically mail the phone in to the devs!
Are you certain, that converting the phone is all I need to use the AT&T LTE bands? If so, I can do S-OFF by mail, whatever, but otherwise I might still be able to return it to the seller, dunno.
I guess there's no way to verify without S-OFF, that LTE works?
Thanks very much!
Nathan2 said:
Whoops, I had assumed I could just use Sunshine but it looks like the only way to S-OFF is to physically mail the phone in to the devs!
Are you certain, that converting the phone is all I need to use the AT&T LTE bands? If so, I can do S-OFF by mail, whatever, but otherwise I might still be able to return it to the seller, dunno.
I guess there's no way to verify without S-OFF, that LTE works?
Thanks very much!
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conversion 100% works, and is better served if your going to be using predominately GSM sims... I thought hspa+ was lte though
aer0zer0 said:
conversion 100% works, and is better served if your going to be using predominately GSM sims... I thought hspa+ was lte though
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Awesome, thanks, I hope @jcase is accepting more mail in orders right now.
Nah, HSPA and HSPA+ are kind of "3.5G." You can tell the difference when it displays an H or H+ in the status bar, instead of the usual 4G or LTE icon, and also because it's significantly slower. It does still work in some areas where LTE doesn't, though, and is still way better than 3G.
I was on Verizon when I got my HTC 10, so it's a Verizon branded phone. I unlocked it with Sunshine.
When I decided to switch to Metro PCS which is basically budget TMobile, I changed the CID to super CID, flashed the TMobile RUU and popped in the Metro PCS Sim and it's worked great, wifi calling, etc.
I'm still on Metro PCS but I am currently running the LeeDroid ROM.
Nathan2 said:
Whoops, I had assumed I could just use Sunshine but it looks like the only way to S-OFF is to physically mail the phone in to the devs!
Are you certain, that converting the phone is all I need to use the AT&T LTE bands? If so, I can do S-OFF by mail, whatever, but otherwise I might still be able to return it to the seller, dunno.
I guess there's no way to verify without S-OFF, that LTE works?
Thanks very much!
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I am certain it works because I have an unlocked htc 10 with s-off and I can use verizon if I flash the verizon radio on my phone. But right now I'm using at&t

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