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Force GPU Rendering?

Exactly what is it and how can it benefit my experience with the S3? Will it save me battery life or something?

mstrmscn said:
Exactly what is it and how can it benefit my experience with the S3? Will it save me battery life or something?
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It's for old apps from like the eclair/froyo era. It forces them to run accelerated.

I cancelled my Netflix account like 3 months ago so I haven't used it since, but this was an App that I personally felt ran like crap on Android compared to iOS. However, enabling GPU rendering made the Netflix App A LOT smoother. Again, this was about 3 months ago. Not sure if there's since been updates to the Netflix App that improves performance without the need to enable Force GPU Rendering. I know Force GPU Rendering didn't play well with some of my Apps. The main one that comes to mind is one of my personal favorites PicSay Pro picture editor.

Tab S 10.5 YouTube Video Stuttering

Hi guys, I recently bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and I'm having issues with video playback in the native YouTube app. Basically every 5-10 seconds, I would get a micro stutter, as if the video is slightly jittery. It's definetely not buffering as the video has loaded well ahead already too.
I am using the samsung stock OS so 4.4.2 and I have installed all the latest official updates for both the OS and the Youtube app.
I have also tried a factory reset of the machine, clearing the cache and updates for the Youtube app and reinstalling. I've also tried forced GPU rendering and turning off hardware overlays in developer mode
Does this indicate there's an issue with my hardware ? It does not happen when i stream videos from my PC over wifi or any locally downloaded videos. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Hmmm, never had this problem with mine when it was on stock. I usually had this problem when I underclocked my cpus and all that or when I am using to many appps.
The only thing I can suggest is use another app (viral popup https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Mata.YTplayer ) or take it back to be safe.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Hmmm, never had this problem with mine when it was on stock. I usually had this problem when I underclocked my cpus and all that or when I am using to many appps.
The only thing I can suggest is use another app (viral popup ] ) or take it back to be safe.
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Thanks, yep the youtube videos would stutter even when i freshly restarted the tablet so nothing else really is running in the background. I have tried the viral popup app except it seems to play at a really low quality setting, ,ie 1080p is not available ?
Is there anything I can test to see if its a possible hardware issue ? I ran the Antutu benchmark and got 37k which seems in line for what's expect from this tablet. Does this help rule anything out ? Thanks.

Check processes, there's probably something in the background.

lagstream said:
Thanks, yep the youtube videos would stutter even when i freshly restarted the tablet so nothing else really is running in the background. I have tried the viral popup app except it seems to play at a really low quality setting, ,ie 1080p is not available ?
Is there anything I can test to see if its a possible hardware issue ? I ran the Antutu benchmark and got 37k which seems in line for what's expect from this tablet. Does this help rule anything out ? Thanks.
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I dont think so. When you play games does it lag too? Ex real racing 3 etc? Because if it cant play youtube without the micro lag, that may affect other apps. I dont get any lag while I was on stock.
If any other apps lag while playing (not on loading screens) then it may be an issue. I never had any micro lag on mine so it may vary on how you see it. Of course we have custom roms that are way smoother (CM12) but I am unsure if your issue is hardware related or the way you see it. Hope this helps!

I got youtube stuttering too for months on my TabS ST800, I tried every tricks in dev options, nothing ever changed .
But one day i tried the CARDBOARD view in the YouTube app options and then return to normal 2D view.... motion became butter smooth up to 1440p60, for any video! If closing youtube app and restarting it, it is stuttering again, until opening again the cardboard view.
Here is a test video I used to validate stutter-free playback :
youtu.be/0BS5V2mSxDs
Good luck.

Marco.hd said:
I got youtube stuttering too for months on my TabS ST800, I tried every tricks in dev options, nothing ever changed .
But one day i tried the CARDBOARD view in the YouTube app options and then return to normal 2D view.... motion became butter smooth up to 1440p60, for any video! If closing youtube app and restarting it, it is stuttering again, until opening again the cardboard view.
Here is a test video I used to validate stutter-free playback :
youtu.be/0BS5V2mSxDs
Good luck.
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You, sir, are awesome!!! I had this problem for the last couple of months on my Tab Pro 10.1, tried everything to eliminate it. Going back to Stock or GraveD rom was slightly better but not really smooth either. I was beginning to lose my sanity switching back and forth between CM11, CM12.1 and stock-rom, trying different developer-options but was not completely satisfied in the end. This cardboard-step is a temporary fix i can definitely live with. But I'm surprised that not many people seem to be effected by this stuttering or they simply don't mind at all. Hope that google is going to fix this shortcoming in the near future but meanwhile...Thanks a ton mister :good:!

.... This cardboard-step is a temporary fix i can definitely live with. But I'm surprised that not many people seem to be effected by this stuttering or they simply don't mind at all. Hope that google is going to fix this shortcoming in the near future but meanwhile...Thanks a ton mister :good:![/QUOTE said:
I was so happy too I spent a night watching again many videos I love ! I'm glad I could share that little joy !
To answer your question, it is a shame that people are suffering from the belief that "online" videos on computer, tablets or phone *must* somewhat stutter. Well ... even trans-galactic communications in Star Wars/Trek and other sci-fi movies are depicted with stutter and even analog (!) video sync and lines issues (in 2150!!). Stutter and other digital disorders have been imprinted in the modern culture because not much effort was given to understand (and implement) that we human are analog creatures requiring a natural constant flow of sound and light, not a "best effort" variable low frame sample rate due to "unavoidable" system interrupts between storage, cpu, gpu and screen. Remarkably, Apple hardware/software was always close to perfection due to their close collaboration with the computer graphics industry for tv and movies..
It is indeed so much enjoyable when colors, contrast, motion of a clean picture hit the brain which then do not have to interpolate, filter dynamically and overcome an unpleasant stressfull and therefore tiring "motion picture"
So far only Sony with its X1 graphical processor in TVs is IMO able to achieve a minimum of digital artefacts while interpolating and displaying moving pictures. HD was a attempt to increase resolution (but we lost many qualities that the oldest of us enjoyed with CRT tubes). UHD must bring "better pixels" back with constant higher frame rate, higher pixel resolution and higher color resolution and dynamic range.
I hope to say bye bye soon to "flicks" = flickering judderish stuttering color-ish moving pictures.
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Nexus 5X Lag

Using snapchat and even just the regular camera, I am experiencing a lot of lag when the camera is first loading up.
snapchat is really slow.
instagram is slow as well/
anyone else seeing the same problem?

The camera and instagram apps don't lag for me. But Snapchat definitely does -- it's pretty bad. But that is absolutely the only app that I have experience any kind of lag with.

Snapchat lags pretty bad and gsm battery stats. IG is not laggy at all for me

I'm also experiencing lag after launching regular camera app. It takes a few seconds for the app to settle down and be able to focus/take pictures.
I'm also experiencing lag if you take multiple HDR+ photos in a roll....
I hope Google could optimize the app more.

The Google Play Newsstand app gets very laggy for me if I view a few feeds in a row.

I get most of my lag in Chrome when viewing a page with lots of images. Sometimes the phone lags when I unlock it and tries to switch apps. Memory leak issue like Lollipop?

Try signing up for snapchat beta, when I first got my 5X the lag in snapchat was unbearable, each of the 3 snapchat updates since first using the 5X have greatly improved the usability of the app. Still lags on camera startup and while taking pictures, but the rest of the app has gotten a lot better of the past few days.

Make sure you are running the latest software build, MDB08I. I don't use Snapchat but it definitely helped smooth out the camera app
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Snapchat is an incompatibility with marshmallow. I had it with my nexus 6 as well

I have not noticed egregious lags, but frame drops are aplenty. Google's animation team did a wonderful job to hide the most irritating aspects of animations, but anyone who is semi-sensitive to dropped frames can see frames dropping left and right.

Stock camera definitely lags more often than not for me. I do have Camera FV-5 so I might give that a try more and see if it's more reliable.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Snapchat lag is horrible, basically can't use it
I'll have to try out Snapchat Beta and see if it fixes it otherwise, this really blows.

If you use Casper instead of the official Snapchat app, you'll see significantly less lag. I still get some bad freezes even with SC uninstalled, though

I've noticed some lag here and there, but nothing worse than I was seeing on my Nexus 5 previously. I'd like to see if disabling the encryption has any positive impact on these kinds of behaviors. Presently I don't have a reliable way to make the N5X start lagging but if anyone else does, maybe we can begin working around it.

kamzarro said:
If you use Casper instead of the official Snapchat app, you'll see significantly less lag. I still get some bad freezes even with SC uninstalled, though
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I didn't know about Casper, thanks!!!

I didn't noticed any lag on mine..

The Lag is real
This phone acts so slow compared to the rooted and flashed Nexus 5 I had, its laggy between switching apps, browsing, FB and even when simply going to the home screen from whatever I was doing. I've tried downgrading the animation scales in Dev Settings and still. Not sure ifi will need to return phone or root and flash.....

Been seeing quite snappy performance all around, quite similar to my old z2. The camera definitely has a little stutter as it is first opened though. I'd like to blame some of the stutters and weirdness I am currently experiencing to the state of apps on marshmallow. By weirdness, I mainly just get some bizarre behavior from the hangouts app.

Performance is quick and snappy just like my N5.

Mine is laggy like a dog in the stock camera app while loading/changing from portrait to landscape/taking the photo.
I've had years old androids run faster than that. I hope there is a fix soon.

Laggy homescreen and gaming

The homescreen is quite noticeably not a smooth 60fps, it stutters and with the overlay enabled in developer settings, can see the framerate drops alot. Especially in freestyle layout mode. Also a lot of games stutter and don't run at a smooth framerate - for example monument valley. Does anyone else get this? Im on stock rom latest update

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The homescreen is quite noticeably not a smooth 60fps, it stutters and with the overlay enabled in developer settings, can see the framerate drops alot. Especially in freestyle layout mode. Also a lot of games stutter and don't run at a smooth framerate - for example monument valley. Does anyone else get this? Im on stock rom latest update
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This is completely dependent on your OS, applications, widgets on screen, running apps, cpu state and the speed you're using your device.. If its really congested and you're running a tonne of apps then you'll perhaps have some slow downs, if you're using a custom kernel and you've lowered the up cpu threshold then that will too have an impact, honestly I'd leave it on stock and minimise the amount of widgets (especially lives ones) you have on your desktops, anything with transparency will have an impact too.
Gaming wise, I have to say this phone is rock solid.
The only game that it couldn't run is dolphin which is a gamecube emulator, running zelda the windwaker.
But I think that's down to optimization rather that anything else.
What set up do you have? Custom rom? Stock? Kernel? Lots or not a lot of apps?

my runs smooth on games, emulators, home screens, videos, taking and recording pictures and video, everything. ive been very happy with its performance, completely stock and running custom roms on my Verizon Variant, viper is my favorite now after last few updates.

I'm also satisfied with my HTC 10 performance, runs smooth (everything stock), but I notice that some games are a bit laggy (like Realracing 3, even if I lower the resolution to FullHD in the Boost+ app).
I wonder if I would get better framerates with the CleanSlate kernel that has Adrenoboost feature, but I'm not to keen on rooting my device because then you can't install OTA updates anymore.

Im running on the stock rom straight from the box, no custom rom or everything
, every game I have tried so far runs awful, massive framerate drops with or without boost. I have compared my framerate in asphalt 8 to this video, with an fps counter, and I get much worse framerates, usually around low 20s, dropping to teens. I don't have powersaving enabled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nks2pE_U_PY

andy010101 said:
Im running on the stock rom straight from the box, no custom rom or everything
, every game I have tried so far runs awful, massive framerate drops with or without boost. I have compared my framerate in asphalt 8 to this video, with an fps counter, and I get much worse framerates, usually around low 20s, dropping to teens. I don't have powersaving enabled
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Anything in HTC's ROM seems to cripple Adrenoboost of the GPU. While on other devices it works perfectly and is reaching up to 60 fps, it doesn't on the HTC 10. It doesn't bother me, as I'm not a heavy gamer, but if you're in need to change it, you could use a custom kernel, as e.g. CleanSlate by @tbalden.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Anything in HTC's ROM seems to cripple Adrenoboost of the GPU. While on other devices it works perfectly and is reaching up to 60 fps, it doesn't on the HTC 10. It doesn't bother me, as I'm not a heavy gamer, but if you're in need to change it, you could use a custom kernel, as e.g. CleanSlate by @tbalden.
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I hope HTC fixes that with some OTA.
Anyway, would the High performance mode in the developer options help the framerate?

CroCop18 said:
I hope HTC fixes that with some OTA.
Anyway, would the High performance mode in the developer options help the framerate?
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As I'm on Viper10, Stock, pnp thermal tweak, or Viper 10 and CleanSlate Kernel. So I can't tell if it would work. The CleanSlate kernel fixes the problem quite well, so I'll use it until HTC maybe fixed the issue as long as I'm gaming and the other config I'll use as my daily driver.
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA Labs

Can anyone that has no custom rom test the framerate on the first map of asphalt 8 and report back?

afuller42 said:
my runs smooth on games, emulators, home screens, videos, taking and recording pictures and video, everything. ive been very happy with its performance, completely stock and running custom roms on my Verizon Variant, viper is my favorite now after last few updates.
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Try to running windwaker on dolphin. Would love to play thar

dladz said:
Try to running windwaker on dolphin. Would love to play thar
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I use mupenfs haven't tried it on 10 yet

andy010101 said:
The homescreen is quite noticeably not a smooth 60fps, it stutters and with the overlay enabled in developer settings, can see the framerate drops alot. Especially in freestyle layout mode. Also a lot of games stutter and don't run at a smooth framerate - for example monument valley. Does anyone else get this? Im on stock rom latest update
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Do u use sd card
If yes which class, coz i noticed that it can slow the device

I hope htc support team improve the performance and fix the lag issues by updates.
This is an awful bug .May htc solve this in the android 7 update .

Slow SD card like someone else said.
Try it without one.
Maybe your hardware is faulty in some way.
Also try to set all clocks to a constant maximum. So you see if you have the power or not.
Maybe a fake device?

H o r r e n d o u s Multitasking

Anybody experiencing horrendous multitasking since upgrading to 10? I mean 9 was bad but man this one takes the cake. Reopening an app from recents is like launching it fresh from the app drawer. This is so goddamn bad.
YouTube videos routinely close in the background, Android auto obviously gets shut down by the absolute **** memory management and relaunches itself constantly, and my gesture navigation gets killed in the background leaving me no way to switch apps.
This phone functions like it has 1gb of ram. My old nexus 6 running 6.0 with 3gb of ram rips through multitasking so I'm suspecting it's just the software that's absolute ****.
For reference I've tested this on a completely bone stock image and now using all these placebo magisk add-ons and none seem to help.
Goddamn.

That's what I don't miss about the pixel 3xl. I still have the phone but after using the OnePlus 7pro it's hard to go back because the extra ram and ram management is just killing the pixel. I've had apps stay open for days with no effect on battery. Took me awhile to in unlearn my habit of closing all my apps in recents to play games and YouTube without one or both apps getting killed in the background. Memory management on all pixels is pure arse and from experience there's nothing you can do about it.

Not very severe in my opinion, I mean youtube, maps nav plus one or two games in background survives half a day. Also no difference since first ram problems(leaks in 9 vs vs )
But, yes ram is 4 gigs plus apps getting heavier and heavier plus android 10 and apps is not good ramwise(optimization required but who should do it ? IOS maybe ?).
Lets face it, 4 gigs is low for today standards and most develeopers do not care about ram requirements when most cost companies increasing their ram every day like no tommorow.
Example; I opened youtube, silent age, Hill climbing racing, whatsapp, chrome with 6 tabs and maps. All I got left 300 mb of Ram which means if I contine some will start shutting down.
And if I force close all of them only 800 mb of Ram will be available, And I am not using those facebook, twitter or instagram apps