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Noticing a lot of parallels with this phone and the LG G2/G3. Particularly in design. I've had a lot of different phones over the past year (One M8 GPE, OPO, MotoX, Nexus 5), and I keep going back to my G2. I really love this phone, the form factor, feel, and the volume on the back, it's just such an awesome phone. So when I saw this new offering by Asus it kind of peaked my interest.
A bit on the fence though. Immediately I saw one thing I'm not too thrilled about... fat bottom bezel. Would much rather had a shorter phone with onscreen navigation. That issue aside, few questions/concerns, and any input is appreciated....
- Does Android really dramatically benefit from 4GB of memory yet? or is this more of a future proof measure?
- Atom Z3580 vs Snapdragon 800. I honestly have little to no issue with my G2, for a phone that is 2 years old, the processor holds up rather nicely. I don't know a whole lot about Atom as a mobile platform, but is this comparable or better? Same concern with the GPU, PowerVR vs Adreno... I've always been under the impression PowerVR is pretty dodgy.
- Camera is somewhat important to me. I've read mixed reviews on the Toshiba sensor in it. The G2 isn't too shabby tbh, however, I noticed the Zenfone has a much wider aperture (f2.0 vs f2.4), and the FFC is also 5MP vs the 2.1MP on the G2. Can't seem to find any definitive answer on if the Zenfone has OIS, does anyone know for certain? Opinions on the camera??
Huge selling points for me is the SD card and dual SIM, two things the G2 doesn't have. Anyone else in the same boat, debating if it's worth upgrading from a G2?
I was actually with a similar dilemma, I could get a cheap g2 or the 550ML, decided for the zenfone at the end. since I have the 2 gig version I wouldn't know about the benefits. processor is snappy and the phone flies, tried a few games on it and no issues (dead trigger 2 and plants vrs zombies). little to no heat when playing ingress (gps and data enabled, screen on most of the time). got mixed feelings on the camera. no OIS as far as I know, night mode is impressive, but noise is really noticeable.
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the battery is actually the only issue I see. some people manage to get by, but there are some issues, asus is working on them though.
I'm happy with my purchase though.
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Noticing a lot of parallels with this phone and the LG G2/G3. Particularly in design. I've had a lot of different phones over the past year (One M8 GPE, OPO, MotoX, Nexus 5), and I keep going back to my G2. I really love this phone, the form factor, feel, and the volume on the back, it's just such an awesome phone. So when I saw this new offering by Asus it kind of peaked my interest.
A bit on the fence though. Immediately I saw one thing I'm not too thrilled about... fat bottom bezel. Would much rather had a shorter phone with onscreen navigation. That issue aside, few questions/concerns, and any input is appreciated....
- Does Android really dramatically benefit from 4GB of memory yet? or is this more of a future proof measure?
- Atom Z3580 vs Snapdragon 800. I honestly have little to no issue with my G2, for a phone that is 2 years old, the processor holds up rather nicely. I don't know a whole lot about Atom as a mobile platform, but is this comparable or better? Same concern with the GPU, PowerVR vs Adreno... I've always been under the impression PowerVR is pretty dodgy.
- Camera is somewhat important to me. I've read mixed reviews on the Toshiba sensor in it. The G2 isn't too shabby tbh, however, I noticed the Zenfone has a much wider aperture (f2.0 vs f2.4), and the FFC is also 5MP vs the 2.1MP on the G2. Can't seem to find any definitive answer on if the Zenfone has OIS, does anyone know for certain? Opinions on the camera??
Huge selling points for me is the SD card and dual SIM, two things the G2 doesn't have. Anyone else in the same boat, debating if it's worth upgrading from a G2?
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I upgraded from my G2 but only because it randomly shuts down and reboots, among other issues. Also the SGX from imagination is what Apple uses in their mobile devices so I wouldn't call it buggy at all. Perhaps the implementation of bad drivers has caused it to be poor with some devices.
So far I've used it for a few hours & while I miss custom ROMs on the G2 the stock ASUS ROM is usable. Can't comment on the camera because I don't take pics frequently.
Performance seems better, can't say whether games are better yet until I load a few.
If your G2 doesn't have the issues mine does then I wouldn't recommend upgrading. You would be better off saving your money for the next Zen or whatever.
"I'd Totally Hug You, If That Was Something I Did"
I actually have my ZF2 CN version up on eBay right now, and am pondering whether to go with the US version or the LG G2. Lack of LTE wasn't a deal killer but the HSPA+ signal wasn't always dependable and two of my more frequently used video streaming apps force closed immediately upon opening (watch TNT) or upon loading a video (Xfinity to go). Right now I found a new Verizon G2 that also works on GSM networks for $150 and I also found a way to hide tethering on the G2 so that the carriers can't track the volume so I'm leaning that way right now.
I think I'm gonna pull the trigger and buy one. I guess if I don't like it I can always throw it on Swappa.
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So far I've used it for a few hours & while I miss custom ROMs on the G2 the stock ASUS ROM is usable. Can't comment on the camera because I don't take pics frequently.
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When you have had a chance to use it for a bit if you would please comment on the brightness and readability of the display while in sunlight, I would appreciate. Some reviews and nit specifications indicate it leaves a bit to be desired.
Thanks.
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When you have had a chance to use it for a bit if you would please comment on the brightness and readability of the display while in sunlight, I would appreciate. Some reviews and nit specifications indicate it leaves a bit to be desired.
Thanks.
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At the lowest brightness the ZF2 is brighter than the G2's minimum...but the ZF2's max is visibly lower than a G2 at max. This will give you an idea of how it may work outside until I try it out tomorrow.
"I'd Totally Hug You, If That Was Something I Did"
If you care about camera, don't get this phone. I have it, and zooming into pictures shows just how horribly noisy the image is. But I knew this before buying the phone - check out the camera compare tools on gsmarena.com and you will see just how bad this sensor is. Ability to resolve detail and extreme dithering are present. Maybe the sensor is really only as good as a 5 MP. Is the camera still good enough for what I want? Yes. I bought it because it's really really cheap and overall an amazing phone for the price.
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I updated from a G3 and it was worth it all the way in my mind... Man that phone is fast... But as @psommerfeld said, only if the camera doesn't matter too much for you... Not that it's completely terrible, but it's not as good as the lg...
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I updated from a G3 and it was worth it all the way in my mind... Man that phone is fast... But as @psommerfeld said, only if the camera doesn't matter too much for you... Not that it's completely terrible, but it's not as good as the lg...
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I'd go back to the g3
dicecuber said:
I'd go back to the g3
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Already gave the g3 to the wife ... Seriously the stock rom on this one is faster than the fastest g3 rom with tens of optimization tricks applied, and I've tried them all.
dutch45612 said:
I updated from a G3 and it was worth it all the way in my mind... Man that phone is fast... But as @psommerfeld said, only if the camera doesn't matter too much for you... Not that it's completely terrible, but it's not as good as the lg...
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I've got the latest firmware update which seems to have reduced camera noise which is good news. I haven't looked to see how much better it is. I didn't expect they could or would improve it. Kinda happy with Asus upgrading the software 3 times since I got the phone. At least they care to fix what they can.
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Model : UMI Plus
Color : Grey/Gold
System Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Processor MediaTek Helio P10 (MT6755) Octa Core
Screen : 5.5 inch,1920x1080
Storage : 4 GB RAM 4 GB ROM
Extra memory card : Support TF card up to 256GB
Camera : Front 5.0MP Rear Camera 13.0MP
Network
Dual sim dual standby
Or 1 Micro SIM Card and 1 TF Card
Both SIM slots are compatible with 4G, respectively.
When they work at the same time, only one of them can receive
4G : 2100(B1)/1800(B3)/2600(B7)/800(B20)
3G/2G : GSM: 850(B5)/900(B8)/1800(B3)/1900(B2)
WCDMA : 850(B5)/900(B8)/1900(B2)/2100(B1)
GPS Built in GPS
Wi-Fi :802.11 a/b/g/n 2.4GHz/5GHz
Senor : G-Sensor, Glonass, P-Sensor, L-Sensor, Accelerometer,
Compass, Gyroscope, Hall switch
Bluetooth : Bluetooth 4.1
battery : 4000 mAh PE+ quick charger,USB Type-C connector
Dimensions : 155*75*8.8mm
Weight : 185g
UMi Plus Hands on Review
Android N running on UMI Plus
Yet Another Umi ...
It seems that P10 is really cheap and good for all line-up
I thinks that this new Umi Plus is not really needed at the moment.. with Max and Super there is no space for another abandoned device..
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Yet Another Umi ...
I thinks that this new Umi Plus is not really needed at the moment.. with Max and Super there is no space for another abandoned device..
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It more choice for consumers to choose a best one.
Android N running on UMI Plus
Umi will push on Andorid 7 update for their P10 chipset smartphone Series!!
http://www.umidigi.com/page-umi_Nplan.html
So according to roadmap we will see Nougat later this year on Plus, Super and Max
worth to buy?
do not own any Umi phone yet.
any major problem with other phone which you own?
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worth to buy?
do not own any Umi phone yet.
any major problem with other phone which you own?
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It's a good question sir...
I owned many Umi devices and latest Super and Max (that is a Super with very few modifications and lower specs) are very good if compared to the old devices.
Umi is really a strange company, they push on the price, advertisement and model change every few months... On the other hand, the abandoned Umi Touch, Iron and so on, need to be taken into account if you hope for a long term support.
Btw, Umi promises to have Android 7 on their new P10 devices, so at least one mayor update will arrive next year.
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megthebest said:
It's a good question sir...
I owned many Umi devices and latest Super and Max (that is a Super with very few modifications and lower specs) are very good if compared to the old devices.
Umi is really a strange company, they push on the price, advertisement and model change every few months... On the other hand, the abandoned Umi Touch, Iron and so on, need to be taken into account if you hope for a long term support.
Btw, Umi promises to have Android 7 on their new P10 devices, so at least one mayor update will arrive next year.
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Both devices uses same chipset. Plus is underclocked.
How is Super's camera quality?
Super has a bit more pixel then Plus.
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Both devices uses same chipset. Plus is underclocked.
How is Super's camera quality?
Super has a bit more pixel then Plus.
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Super camera is bad, Plus will be better because they change supplier from Panasonic to Samsung
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Super camera is bad, Plus will be better because they change supplier from Panasonic to Samsung
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Oh, so wat do u think?
Worth to get?
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Oh, so wat do u think?
Worth to get?
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for less than 200 € it worth .. but as always with the Chinese devices is a "wheel of fortune"!
For sure, the first devices will come out, are "prototypes" .. so it will be better to wait first reviews
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for less than 200 € it worth .. but as always with the Chinese devices is a "wheel of fortune"!
For sure, the first devices will come out, are "prototypes" .. so it will be better to wait first reviews
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Thank you for the advice.
I will wait then.
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Umi Plus last chance to have it with 70$ discount:
UMi Plus’ Home Button Hides one of the Best Fingerprint Scanners on the Market!
Recently, we have seen the resurfacing of the physical home button in many smartphones: while in some cases it’s just an aesthetical choice, in many others it’s because nowadays technology allows to introduce quite some useful features under it, and the one in UMi Plus falls in this category.
The physical home button just works like you are used to: a long press opens recent apps, while a slight touch brings you back to the home screen. But the real strong point of the physical key is the embedded fingerprint sensor, one of the fastest and more accurate in the sector.
The Fingerprint sensor used on UMi Plus is included into the home button for an easy and fast usage: it has an outstanding reliability, while being the fastest in its class. It's enough to press gently on the sensor for 0.1s and the smartphone will immediately unlock itself, more convenient and faster than using patterns or pass codes. A dedicated Chip encrypts and stores your fingerprints in a totally safe way, no one can access them, for maximum security.
Win one free at our second run giveaway here: http://bit.ly/UMiPlusPresales
UMi explains why the Plus has been called the "budget flagship" by showing a real-life usage comparison with OnePlus 3
We have seen how, in recent years, chinese smartphones managed to offer an unmatched price-performance ratio: this is what allowed many manufacturers to become international players in just a few years.
Until a few years ago, it was just unimaginable to have a premium product able to give a no compromise experience around the 200$ mark, but nowadays it’s possible to get some nicely crafted products like the brand new UMi Plus, able to satisfy even the most demanding users.
We have often read that UMi refers to its product as the “budget flagship”, because it brings a lot of flagship-grade specs into a product with a very affordable price tag: a full metal body, a Sharp display, a huge 4000mAh battery made with Sony cells and quick charge support, an Octa Core 4G Processor, 4GB RAM, 32GB ROM, a 13MP Samsung camera with manual controls and many other nice features and specifications.
But since specifications are only part of the picture, today UMi shows us a video of some real-life performance tests of the UMi Plus, to see how its product performs in the most common tasks people use the phone for and not only on the usual benchmarks.
UMi used one of the most appreciated Flagships of the moment, the Oneplus 3, as a reference to show how its smartphone performs in comparison to a top product.
In this test, the speed on opening the apps and connectivity speed are evaluated.
Very often, benchmarks are used to classify and choose our phone, but real usage, the most important thing, is overlooked most of the time, here we can see how the UMi Plus manages to go head to head with Oneplus 3 despite having 2 GB less of RAM, even outmatching it on the wifi test.
Do you like the UMi Plus? Would you like to win one for free? Join the second run giveaway on UMi website http://bit.ly/UMiPlusPresales
Anyone bought the phone from gearbest? I saw that it is out of stock after the pre-sales.
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UMi Plus - primary camera video test
Stock rom here:
http://community.umidigi.com/thread-4942-1-1.html
any feedback on this phone? looks like there's no subforum in here for UMI Plus?
A mix between Super and Touch models..
Only concerns about engraved type-c port
I don't know why they design in that way, only few adaptors and cables fits correctly, the others don't go inside and make stable connection for charge and data trasfer [emoji33] [emoji25]
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Hi guys, thinking of purchasing a brand new LG G3 since I'm not happy with the Zenfone Selfie (looks better on paper but lags).
Would like to know/get some feedback from long time users regarding this unit. How has it been for you?
I will not be regularly flashing roms (I no longer have the time for this), but I will flash the most stable rom around (doesn't matter even if its kitkat )
I need good GPS (i use google maps for work, daily)
I need dual sim. (id have gotten the nexus 5x.)
is the g3 still good for 2016?
I don't play games but I multi task a lot. Facebook messenger (unfortunately need it for work), Facebook pages manager, Maps, Calls, text messaging, viber. On my zefone selfie, I get lags. My nexus 7 actually runs smoother!
Thank you! id appreciate any reply.
* I am afraid to buy the G4 because of the bootloop issues.
* g5 is out of the budget
honestly that depends on the price you're paying for the g3... if you can root it and flash fulmics, then you'll get better performance than stock kitkat.
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For a two year phone the g3
is not a bad purchase fella. Lots of ROMs to flash here on XDA to. Rockin the RR rom 6.0.1 at the min. from my experience with it Its the shiit so go get one ,,,[emoji12]
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How much you get G3? If it is same as Redmi note 3, take the Xiaomi
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How much you get G3? If it is same as Redmi note 3, take the Xiaomi
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that depends.. if you want a better camera, removable battery, nfc, a 2k screen go with g3.
if you want excellent battery backup, fingerprint scanner, better gaming performance, then go with redmi note 3. but if you're not a fan of miui, then you might wanna root it and go with custom rom path...
redmi note 3 also has excellent developer support imo.
dont buy better go with one plus one ... 2k display in this device ruined the true potential of the chip ... it drains battery and gaming performance also gets down as GPU has to render on 2k display ,,, OPO has same spec with 1080p display .. which is better .. battery backup is awesome .. but camera is no better than G3 ...
Thanks guys for the suggestions.
I'm not much into camera or gaming. I almost never play games. looking for a unit that can handle mutli tasking well (sms/facebook/viber/maps).
Will look into the other
will definitely flash a custom rom, and get as close to google (no other stuff) as possible.
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How much you get G3? If it is same as Redmi note 3, take the Xiaomi
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G3 3gb 32gb dual sim = about $255
Redmi Note 3 3Gb 32gGb = about $$205
should I get the redmi?
Anne_Droid said:
G3 3gb 32gb dual sim = about $255
Redmi Note 3 3Gb 32gGb = about $$205
should I get the redmi?
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I was choosing between G3 and Redmi 3S and i went for G3 (because i had experience with Nexus 4 and G2).
I am happy with my G3, however the Xiaomi phones are excellent. You should try them out first before making the decision.
I have a G3 with 6.0 MM v30N stock firmware ( 3 GB ram) and I have to say that if you use a lot apps like Google Maps with gps always on and using 4G too you will have a big battery drain due to 2k display also considerig that you use also socials like Facebook and Messenger a lot, so I don't know if G3 is the best choose for you right now cause I think you wouldn't be able to cover all the day with your use of the phone. I hope I have helped you and sorry for my english
G3 is a great phone but it is really great for taking pictures !
At the time (2-3 years ago) it was considered as the best of its class ... with similar or better perfomances than Apple & Samsung for quality pictures and clips.
Speaking of camera, the only thing nicer in G4, the follower to G3, is that it supports camera2 api (useful for manual settings). But then, there were so many problems of "motherboard giving boot loop issues" that the G4 is really useless or rather a bet on money (except if your mother board has a serial starting with numbers 505 up to 508 ...., then you are sure you pulled the wrong number and will have bootloop issue and death.
Beware, every "new" phone, though really expensive, comes bundled with deadly issues ! G4, for sure, but Samsung as well ... like S5 (the equivalent of G3, or S6 = G5 or S7 ... A search for "common problems" is really creepy !
Back to G3, a nice thing also, it that the back is not "glued" as in Sony Z1-Z2- etc. or Samsung S5-S6-S7 or plenty new phones. So, ok, you cannot take a bath with it or take pictures underwater, but so the battery can be taken away and changed easily (a plain second battery .always charged ... is a nice thing).
For the rest, all 2-3 years old top phones ( handle quite well everything common such as calling, surfing, playing, etc ... (same thing as with PC). Except if you are a gamer, dont get fooled by power !
Development for G3 will decrease quite rapidly because it is already an end of life product and it will be only occasionally developped by developpers who really love new things and new possibilites (Think of Nougat coming out these days)
Launched with KK android system, fully supporting LP it handles quite well MM (=Marshmallow)!
There's plenty to say yet, but everything really depends on your needs and the money you have.
This is just as buying a second hand car .... AND DON'T FORGET TO GOOGLE for " xyz COMMON PROBLEMS" where xyz is replaced by G3, or ... G4, or Gç, or S5, S6, S7 (for Samsung)
Have a nice day !
i had galaxy j7 2016 and i switched it with LG G3 , really happy with it
There's some catch imo: Cracks shows up in sides, back cover is easily cracks.... But mostly great phone for office worker, nice display, loud speaker, easy to handle, double tap to wake is nice, like in meeting, having it on the table, double tap doesn't distract as much as having phone in hands, and double tap to sleep... As multitask use is decent, but more ram might be needed, I think. Switching from one to other apps is good too. Now some custom roms have dual-screen options (two apps in one screen), but I can't remember which one...
One plus 3.......
The best phone with 400 bucks
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cultofluna said:
One plus 3.......
The best phone with 400 bucks
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unfortunately out of my current budget.
cultofluna said:
One plus 3.......
The best phone with 400 bucks
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Kinda wish the G3 had Oneplus 3 stats.
It would easily be the best phone of 2014 again and 2015 and 2016!
Anne_Droid said:
G3 3gb 32gb dual sim = about $255
Redmi Note 3 3Gb 32gGb = about $$205
should I get the redmi?
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G3 for camera and 2K display
redmi note 3 for general performance and battery (and save 50$ :laugh
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There's some catch imo: Cracks shows up in sides, back cover is easily cracks.... But mostly great phone for office worker, nice display, loud speaker, easy to handle, double tap to wake is nice, like in meeting, having it on the table, double tap doesn't distract as much as having phone in hands, and double tap to sleep... As multitask use is decent, but more ram might be needed, I think. Switching from one to other apps is good too. Now some custom roms have dual-screen options (two apps in one screen), but I can't remember which one...
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" loud speaker " ... as you say. And the G3 got it !
And I even set all volumes to 64 with LG G3 Volume Booster mod !
with the amount of tweaks you can make the G3 depending on the version out perform a lot of the other flagships
It is still relevant in 2016, or even 2017. G3 is on the list that will get Nougat.
I'm lost between these two smartphones, both have almost the same price and the same specs except the main camera and the screen, which one to choose between the two?
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I'm lost between these two smartphones, both have almost the same price and the same specs except the main camera and the screen, which one to choose between the two?
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For me what will tilt the balance is size and weight, where mi 11 lite is lighter and smaller. Besides Mi 11 lite doesn't have a dedicated SD card slot.
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For me what will tilt the balance is size and weight, where mi 11 lite is lighter and smaller. Besides Mi 11 lite doesn't have a dedicated SD card slot.
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The Mi 11 Lite supports microSD expansion cards!
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Yes it has but, it uses same slot as SIM. So you cant use two SIMS at a time, if you use SD card.
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Mi 11 Lite supports microSD expansion cards!
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Yes it has but, it uses same slot as SIM. So you cant use two SIMS at a time, if you use SD card.
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Yes unfortunately
I use Mi 10T Pro as a daily driver. Bought a Redmi Note 10 Pro one month ago but sold it after one week. Great phone for the price but it still left me cold for some reason. I have now made an order of 11 Lite 4G. I dont't think the camera on 11 Lite is that much worse. Watched a camera comparison on youtube and they were more oss less on par. The great thing about 11 Lite is the smaller and nicer form factor. Will update when I get the phone later this week.
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Im am making a switch from IOS to android. I have ordered a Mi 11 lite (after some research). And I have joined this forum(looks really cool place to hangout). Main reason being the customization options and availability of open source apps. I plan to ungoogle (unChina perhaps) the phone to my liking. Really inspired by a wolfgang's video on the topic. Hopeful that a major custom rom (like lineage or omni) gets released for Mi 11 lite soon.
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Im am making a switch from IOS to android. I have ordered a Mi 11 lite (after some research). And I have joined this forum(looks really cool place to hangout). Main reason being the customization options and availability of open source apps. I plan to ungoogle (unChina perhaps) the phone to my liking. Really inspired by a wolfgang's video on the topic. Hopeful that a major custom rom (like lineage or omni) gets released for Mi 11 lite soon.
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Yeah... Hope will have twrp and many custom rom
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I use Mi 10T Pro as a daily driver. Bought a Redmi Note 10 Pro one month ago but sold it after one week. Great phone for the price but it still left me cold for some reason. I have now made an order of 11 Lite 4G. I dont't think the camera on 11 Lite is that much worse. Watched a camera comparison on youtube and they were more oss less on par. The great thing about 11 Lite is the smaller and nicer form factor. Will update when I get the phone later this week.
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I would like to revise my statement above. Got a Mi 11 Lite 4G two days ago. It was a bit disappointing. It feels a bit cheap to be honest. Further, the punchole is bigger and more intrusive compared to N10Pro. Not a big fan of Note 10 Pro but I still think that phone felt a bit better. Also got a Poco F3 and that phone feels great. Better build quality and haptics than both 11 Lite and Note 10 Pro and way faster and more fluid. Mi 11 Lite feels like a typical midrange phone whereas F3 almost feels like a full-fledged flagship. Did not expect such a large difference between F3 and Mi 11 Lite. I also thought that F3 would feel like a faster Note 10 Pro. However, F3 feels way better than Note 10 Pro (as I remember that phone).
What about photo comparison for you guys ? which one best ??
flipp0 said:
I would like to revise my statement above. Got a Mi 11 Lite 4G two days ago. It was a bit disappointing. It feels a bit cheap to be honest. Further, the punchole is bigger and more intrusive compared to N10Pro. Not a big fan of Note 10 Pro but I still think that phone felt a bit better. Also got a Poco F3 and that phone feels great. Better build quality and haptics than both 11 Lite and Note 10 Pro and way faster and more fluid. Mi 11 Lite feels like a typical midrange phone whereas F3 almost feels like a full-fledged flagship. Did not expect such a large difference between F3 and Mi 11 Lite. I also thought that F3 would feel like a faster Note 10 Pro. However, F3 feels way better than Note 10 Pro (as I remember that phone).
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I haven't used any other phones you mentioned, in fact, this (xiaomi 11 lite) is my first android phone that I have been using since a few hours today. Overall its been good so far. The biggest complain (or rather disappointment) is the camera. It...just... ...sucks haha. Not to say Its unusable but compared to iphone, for me its just functional and thats it. Of course there is no comparison between the two. Im just sharing my impression of it. Over all, not too bad for a first time android phone.
And speaking of android, I dont know if all android phones are like this but, Android in this phone felt like a Google heaven and a data sucking machine down to your every single heart beat. The DEFAULT CONTACT(by default I mean its a system app and I can't even delete it) app is GOOGLE. WHAT??? The default assistant is google. Basically every app is google and so many unnecessary permissions like calculator requiring microphone was there.
I really hope a custom rom come out soon because I would have to spend hours setting this thing up with just root access. And even that might not be enough. Thank you for the read.
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I haven't used any other phones you mentioned, in fact, this (xiaomi 11 lite) is my first android phone that I have been using since a few hours today. Overall its been good so far. The biggest complain (or rather disappointment) is the camera. It...just... ...sucks haha. Not to say Its unusable but compared to iphone, for me its just functional and thats it. Of course there is no comparison between the two. Im just sharing my impression of it. Over all, not too bad for a first time android phone.
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Xiaomi used a small main camera sensor in order to reduce the camera bump on this phone. This is the reason for mediocre camera performance. However, I still think the camera is pretty good taking the low price into consideration. However, I will sell this phone now. It is a good midranger but not close enough to a flagship. The difference between using this phone vs. F3 or Mi 10T Pro are too large for my taste. The form factor is super nice but everything else feels mediocre. I don't think I ever will buy a midranger again. If one get used to the haptics and speed/fluidity of Xiaomi flagships (or Poco F3) it is very hard to settle for a phone like this.
Hi,
Thanks a lot for the first hand experiences. I'm a light user myself and don't need/expect high (SoC) performance from a phone.
Except cost and form factor, the most important thing to me is the camera. I doubted the extra-tiny pixel on the new sensor at first, but then I saw the review at GSMArena:
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_11_lite-review-2255p5.php#image31
The details of the mosaic are very good. In fact, only a few phones can resolve the details to such level -- I found out by digging quite a few reviews in that site comparing the photo samples of the same scene.
I also saw some other reviews on Youtube with positive impressions. (And then, there will be GCam for help in the near future... )
In what aspects do you think the camera is not good?
Shutter lag? Low light?
BTW, OTOH, I'm worrying about the durability of this phone, especially after seeing the broken RN10 pro in the bending test
I don't do that to my phones for sure, but the thinness of this phone is so attractive yet so worrying at the same time.
Just found a teardown video of this phone, the 1st one I have encountered:
Looks like the middle frame is widened/thickened near the area of switches. Should be a good thing for the rigidity...
CLS_phone said:
BTW, OTOH, I'm worrying about the durability of this phone, especially after seeing the broken RN10 pro in the bending test
I don't do that to my phones for sure, but the thinness of this phone is so attractive yet so worrying at the same time.
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Yes. I'm going to sell my Mi 11 Lite 4G. It feels a bit fragile. Poco F3 feels much sturdier in comparison. With that said, I do not care that much about bend tests. I do not think it will break when using it in everyday life.
The problem for me is subjective experience of holding a phone that feels a bit fragile. IMO Mi 11 Lite lacks a premium in-hand feel. It feels a bit cheap.
I got your point.
To me, it's a dilemma. The sense of substantial feels good in hand, but it could also drag my pants down or skew in my pocket, LOL !
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I got your point.
To me, it's a dilemma. The sense of substantial feels good in hand, but it could also drag my pants down or skew in my pocket, LOL !
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i bought Poco X3 nfc first, very good for the price but really too heavy, it dragged my pants down
Then bought Mi 11 lite on a temporary sale (189€ in Italy), and sold the X3.
Weight it's not directly related to the real phone hardness, let's consider that the more weight the more risk of breaking when it falls on the ground, for obvious physical reasons.
For that price of course there is no match, Mi 11 lite is a best buy, it's real problem is the actual street price.
Actually, i definitely love it, and look forward for twrp and aosp roms, and a dedicated gcam mod, to get the most out of it
If anyone out there was using oneplus and then moved to the Poco F3
I ask mainly because i believe this phone will have really good dev support for a long time while OP7Pro is fine but not as active as before.
I don't usually like to run the stock version of the OS.
But im so used to this really good loking screen on the OP7Pro so i wanna know your opinions.
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Judging from your post in the green tint thread, I believe you have already bought the phone. Why are you asking for other people's opinions when you already have the phone? You should test it yourself and form your own opinion.
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View attachment 5315097Judging from your post in the green tint thread, I believe you have already bought the phone. Why are you asking for other people's opinions when you already have the phone? You should test it yourself and form your own opinion.
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yea saw this coming , but i ask because i still dont use the phone much , im wating for the 7 days to unlock otherwise theres no point for me to use it without my apps and the usual enviroment im used to.
I dont see whats worng with that or why you feel the need to point that out.
Its just that people usually ask these sort of questions before buying a phone, not after it. What if a lot of previous op7 pro owners appeared on this post and told you not to switch? Will you sell the phone? Wouldnt it be a waste of time and money? These few questions made me write the above post. My apologies if you found it offensive. Have a good day.
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Its just that people usually ask these sort of questions before buying a phone, not after it. What if a lot of previous op7 pro owners appeared on this post and told you not to switch? Will you sell the phone? Wouldnt it be a waste of time and money? These few questions made me write the above post. My apologies if you found it offensive. Have a good day.
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yea nop its ok im not mad.I forgot to mention i got some time to test the phone and send it back if i want to.
So well i can get my full money back if i do that.To be honest i wouldnt have asked if it werent because of those days i need to wait to unclock the bootloader.
Seems like a waste of money.
I only replace phones if the screen is damaged. or my phone is not working anymore.
No compare no despair.
"Worth" is subjective.
If you ask this kind of question, you are feeling hesitated.
Write your expectation in "priority order". Price, performance, battery backup, developmen, customer service, warrant, social surrounding, etc.
Don't put your expectation in parallel, you can't judge what you need in parallel.
It all depend on what you want the phone for.
Since you said you can refund, then refund it. You can buy it back later.
If you say you bought it on a limited discount price and aren't willing to refund it, then move "Price" to higher priority.
If you say more dev activity is better, then move "Custom development" to higher priority, but don't put it parallel with "Price". You have to decide which is your priority.
Other's opinion is not your opinion. You can't blame them if you follow their opinion and hate the phone later. You are the one "decide" to follow. No one force you.
My opinion is : smash your OP7Pro, then you'll find your Poco F3 worthwhile.
I recently moved from a OnePlus 7 Pro to a Poco F3. Reason being my OnePlus was full of scratches and battery life had degraded. The thing I miss about the OnePlus is its premium aluminium build and the display without any interruptions like a punch hole and notch. That being said, I really enjoyed the display on the Poco....the 120 hz panel is brighter, smoother and has better colors in my eyes compared to the OnePlus. Despite the punch hole which is the smallest I have used I am enjoying watching movies a lot for on this phone thanks to the smart tv Memc chip feature (which OnePlus 8 pro and 9 pro also has). It smoothens videos (though its a personal preference) but I love it. I also like the flat display, it's easier to apply a screen protector on it compared to the curved screen of the OnePlus 7 pro. Poco F3 is more comfortable to hold being flat, slimmer and lighter with the same screen size without a case. I had the OnePlus 7 pro in mirror grey so both my black Poco F3 and OnePlus were equal fingerprint magnets without a case but like I said OnePlus did feel more premium to hold because of its aluminium. I found the upgraded ram and processor to provide a superior experience compared to my OnePlus in various tasks (which was already pretty snappy). Back camera experience: Superior for me on the Poco when there is ample daylight though OnePlus 7 pro worked better in low light. I found selfie results to be superior on the Poco compared to OnePlus. It struggles though in low light situations but I hope this can be improved with updates and Gcams in future. I didn't like MIUI 12 with the Poco launcher much though the one ui like Oxygen OS 11 was buggy too on the OnePlus 7 pro and it took many months to arrive (had zero hopes to get Oxygen OS 12 whenever it comes seeing the fate of the OnePlus 6 series.... though custom ROM support is decent on the OnePlus 7 Pro). When I unlocked the bootloader and installed the custom MIUI 12.5 ROM on Poco F3 I loved it as it also solved a lot of bugs and animations became prettier and snappier. XDA development has been really impressive on the Poco F3 in recent times so I expect many good custom ROMs in the future. Overall I have been pretty satisfied with moving to the Poco F3 from OnePlus 7 Pro. I also moved to the 256 GB version from my 128 GB One Plus so that was another upgrade for me personally. Music experience was identical on both devices. The Poco is giving decent SOT with the battery being new.
P.S. I also noticed it charges at a uniform speed right up to 100 percent. OnePlus used to slow down when it was above 70 percent I think.
I suggest you switch to a better model.
pl1992aw said:
No compare no despair.
"Worth" is subjective.
If you ask this kind of question, you are feeling hesitated.
Write your expectation in "priority order". Price, performance, battery backup, developmen, customer service, warrant, social surrounding, etc.
Don't put your expectation in parallel, you can't judge what you need in parallel.
It all depend on what you want the phone for.
Since you said you can refund, then refund it. You can buy it back later.
If you say you bought it on a limited discount price and aren't willing to refund it, then move "Price" to higher priority.
If you say more dev activity is better, then move "Custom development" to higher priority, but don't put it parallel with "Price". You have to decide which is your priority.
Other's opinion is not your opinion. You can't blame them if you follow their opinion and hate the phone later. You are the one "decide" to follow. No one force you.
My opinion is : smash your OP7Pro, then you'll find your Poco F3 worthwhile.
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The reason i havent send it back is because i too wanna try the phone with a different system other than stock which i do in all phones i get ( gotta wait until tuesday).
From the little time i have been using the phone i can say i like it and the only thing i dislike so far is the screen at night which is not uniform at all.
I even stated that my main concern is having a phone with good dev support so yea im not looking for opinions to change of mind , i just wanna know what they felt going from one phone to another, im not gonna decide just becuase someone had issues or didn't like the phone; i know my priorities , in fact another reason i wanna keep the Poco is due to having Wifi 6 support which my router does and i can telll the difference.
Also the ability to just switch on VoLTE in my country rather than having to use ADB commands like with my oneplus is really refreshing and i like it.
And so on there are many thing i like about the phone and i will decide in a few days once i try it with the bootloader unlocked.
Maybe it was amy bad to use the word "worth" since everyone has different needs on what is worth it for them.
oh and lol at the last sentence, i aint gonna smash it xd hmm i could potentially sell it almost for the same price i bought the Poco!
Roxenrocker88 said:
I recently moved from a OnePlus 7 Pro to a Poco F3. Reason being my OnePlus was full of scratches and battery life had degraded. The thing I miss about the OnePlus is its premium aluminium build and the display without any interruptions like a punch hole and notch. That being said, I really enjoyed the display on the Poco....the 120 hz panel is brighter, smoother and has better colors in my eyes compared to the OnePlus. Despite the punch hole which is the smallest I have used I am enjoying watching movies a lot for on this phone thanks to the smart tv Memc chip feature (which OnePlus 8 pro and 9 pro also has). It smoothens videos (though its a personal preference) but I love it. I also like the flat display, it's easier to apply a screen protector on it compared to the curved screen of the OnePlus 7 pro. Poco F3 is more comfortable to hold being flat, slimmer and lighter with the same screen size without a case. I had the OnePlus 7 pro in mirror grey so both my black Poco F3 and OnePlus were equal fingerprint magnets without a case but like I said OnePlus did feel more premium to hold because of its aluminium. I found the upgraded ram and processor to provide a superior experience compared to my OnePlus in various tasks (which was already pretty snappy). Back camera experience: Superior for me on the Poco when there is ample daylight though OnePlus 7 pro worked better in low light. I found selfie results to be superior on the Poco compared to OnePlus. It struggles though in low light situations but I hope this can be improved with updates and Gcams in future. I didn't like MIUI 12 with the Poco launcher much though the one ui like Oxygen OS 11 was buggy too on the OnePlus 7 pro and it took many months to arrive (had zero hopes to get Oxygen OS 12 whenever it comes seeing the fate of the OnePlus 6 series.... though custom ROM support is decent on the OnePlus 7 Pro). When I unlocked the bootloader and installed the custom MIUI 12.5 ROM on Poco F3 I loved it as it also solved a lot of bugs and animations became prettier and snappier. XDA development has been really impressive on the Poco F3 in recent times so I expect many good custom ROMs in the future. Overall I have been pretty satisfied with moving to the Poco F3 from OnePlus 7 Pro. I also moved to the 256 GB version from my 128 GB One Plus so that was another upgrade for me personally. Music experience was identical on both devices. The Poco is giving decent SOT with the battery being new.
P.S. I also noticed it charges at a uniform speed right up to 100 percent. OnePlus used to slow down when it was above 70 percent I think.
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Nice , thank you for the comparision this is what i was looking for when i asked.
Now do you think charging at same speed from 0 to 100 is good? i believe Oneplus does reduce speed for a reason i guess.
PriPhaze said:
The reason i havent send it back is because i too wanna try the phone with a different system other than stock which i do in all phones i get ( gotta wait until tuesday).
From the little time i have been using the phone i can say i like it and the only thing i dislike so far is the screen at night which is not uniform at all.
I even stated that my main concern is having a phone with good dev support so yea im not looking for opinions to change of mind , i just wanna know what they felt going from one phone to another, im not gonna decide just becuase someone had issues or didn't like the phone; i know my priorities , in fact another reason i wanna keep the Poco is due to having Wifi 6 support which my router does and i can telll the difference.
Also the ability to just switch on VoLTE in my country rather than having to use ADB commands like with my oneplus is really refreshing and i like it.
And so on there are many thing i like about the phone and i will decide in a few days once i try it with the bootloader unlocked.
Maybe it was amy bad to use the word "worth" since everyone has different needs on what is worth it for them.
oh and lol at the last sentence, i aint gonna smash it xd hmm i could potentially sell it almost for the same price i bought the Poco!
Nice , thank you for the comparision this is what i was looking for when i asked.
Now do you think charging at same speed from 0 to 100 is good? i believe Oneplus does reduce speed for a reason i guess.
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Not sure about the impact this uniform charging has on the longevity of the battery but I do find it convenient for my personal needs. From what I know this is achieved by two batteries joined together, I may be wrong as I don't grasp the science behind this.
I sold my 7T Pro and bought the F3 for less. more than happy w my decision. Screen on time was horrible on the op7 series. never turning backkkkk
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I sold my 7T Pro and bought the F3 for less. more than happy w my decision. Screen on time was horrible on the op7 series. never turning backkkkk
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It is a bit dumb to ask since we all use different apps and signal coverage but..
What was your SOT with the 7T Pro and now with the F3?
I'm also thinking of moving from the OP7 non-pro to a new phone, have not made my mind yet whether it will be the Poco F3 for performance or the Redmi note 10 pro for camera. Reason to move away from OP7 is poor battery life and the 120hz display with the new phones.
Poco F3 has IMX582 camera sensor which quality wise is similar to IMX586 in the OP7 so at best case I'll get same quality photos and that is by biggest concern with the Poco.
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It is a bit dumb to ask since we all use different apps and signal coverage but..
What was your SOT with the 7T Pro and now with the F3?
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I had the 7 Pro, 7T Pro and 7T.
almost all these three had similar SoT's
for the 7 Pro and 7T Pro my Sot maxes to 4.5-5hrs
with the 7T it lasts for 6hrs
with the 8. 8T and 8 Pro I get 7-10hrs of SoT
I dont game just some emails, voip calls and some facebook and with forced doze on apps I dont need to be awake all the time. I just hate how power hungry the panels are with the 7 series
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I had the 7 Pro, 7T Pro and 7T.
almost all these three had similar SoT's
for the 7 Pro and 7T Pro my Sot maxes to 4.5-5hrs
with the 7T it lasts for 6hrs
with the 8. 8T and 8 Pro I get 7-10hrs of SoT
I dont game just some emails, voip calls and some facebook and with forced doze on apps I dont need to be awake all the time. I just hate how power hungry the panels are with the 7 series
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you meant.. you had all oneplus phones from 7 pro to 8T?
And then went with the Poco F3?
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you meant.. you had all oneplus phones from 7 pro to 8T?
And then went with the Poco F3?
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Yup I had every oneplus up to oneplus 8 pro. ditched em on the 9 series for the s21 ultra and the f3
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If anyone out there was using oneplus and then moved to the Poco F3
I ask mainly because i believe this phone will have really good dev support for a long time while OP7Pro is fine but not as active as before.
I don't usually like to run the stock version of the OS.
But im so used to this really good loking screen on the OP7Pro so i wanna know your opinions.
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I have both phones.
Ill say thatthe op7pros screen is 2k , but it just isnt as bright andlets not forget the battery life on the poco f3 which is better even while running an always on display . More importantly, the There are waaaay more roms and wil be for longer on the poco f3. If you really have the cash to spare, the poco f3 is worth it and a definite upgrade