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Hi folks,
I just dropped my Samsung S4 and cracked the screen. :crying: It still works, but it's time to move on. I never buy new / latest devices; instead I wait and buy last year's model from Swappa or the like, selling my old phone to partially subsidize the purchase. Looks like my S4 is going to the Boneyard.
What I've been looking for is a 2014 model, 5.5" screen, rootable/unlocked bootloader (I like custom ROMs :good: ), phone with a multicolor notification light and good battery. Was thinking to go up to Nexus 6 but it's just too big for me.
The LG G3 looks just about perfect. I've spent the last hour reading up on it. The T-Mo version should work fine for my AT&T service, and it comes unlocked, both SIM and Bootloader. Can any ATT users attest to the phone working well on that network? (EDIT: I googled a bit and found it works fine)
There seems to be plenty of development, though surprisingly I don't see a plain vanilla GPE 5.1.1 ROM out there. Most of the development I see seems to be around AOSP (I'm a fan of SlimROMs and have had good experiences with Dirty Unicorns too, been considering Bliss on other devices). Have I missed a very plain GPE (at least 5.1) compiled for the G3? Doing my research it looks like the latest OTA is still 20G (5.0.1), and it sounds like Marshmallow will eventually come out (I'm not sure I want it...). Would love to hear what the most plain GPE like 5.1 ROM is.
I'd love to hear any experience or recommendations... anybody get a G3 recently and wish they got something else, instead? Or is this a device we can all love for another year or so?
Thanks. I'm itching to pull the trigger and just need some encouragement, or possibly a conk on the head to look into some other phone.
One last question: how intense is the vibrate function on the G3? My S4 isn't strong enough vibrating, and I often miss calls and stuff when I'm in silent/vibrate mode. Looking for something a bit more attention getting if possible!
Marc
I dropped my note 3 for thus phone. Although it's rootable the g3 seems to be fragile when it comes to flashing roms if you don't know what you are doing. Not worse than the note 3 though ( ATT murdered that phone).
Thanks for the reply!
I've gone ahead and purchased the D851. It should arrive today, and I should have it set up later this week. Looking forward to it. I've bought an iCarez 0.2mm screen protector for it and am looking into bumpers/wraps to keep it minty.
I'm a bit concerned since there's no 5.1(.1) GPE ROM available, but many of the Dev'ed ROM options look attractive. I'm going to start by rooting the thing and subtracting bloatware. After that, we'll see... On the S4, the T-Mo boot animation was reason enough to flash a ROM. Loud and annoying.
I'm curious, are you stock, or have you flashed something (if so, which ROM)?
Again, thank you. I appreciate your reply.
I was practically in the same boat. I had a GS4 , but cracked the display, the actual display not the glass, and bought a G3. I replaced the front glass twice before that, its a very fragile phone. But otherwise I loved the S4 for the screen, the plain design, ROMs, expandable storage, and removable battery.
The G3 is very comparable to the S4, the screen I'd say is slight upgrade. You can barely notice 1440p vs 1080p, and I'd say its viewing angles aren't as good, but I still like it over my S4. I'm running paranoid android 5.1.1 on it now. Its similar to AOSP. If you liked the GS4 you'd probably like the G3 but it wasn't that great an upgrade. Still though, its logical to get the G3 if your S4 is broken as its pretty much an S4 with more up to date components and an LG logo on it.
Thanks for the input ! I did buy a G3 and will set it up this weekend. I will look into the ROM you mentioned too.
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I wish I'd seen this sooner. I'd have steered you clear of the G3. Biggest piece of garbage unless you're running boring stock. Even the CM team can't figure out how to make a stable ROM for it... And they've been at it for over a year! Bluetooth audio will never be right, Bluetooth LE will stop working altogether and you'll experience major network connectivity issues... All on day one and with any of the custom ROMs out there. It seems that the LG is so proprietary that nothing can control it aside from the boring, bloated, ugly and battery eating stock.
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I wish I'd seen this sooner. I'd have steered you clear of the G3. Biggest piece of garbage unless you're running boring stock. Even the CM team can't figure out how to make a stable ROM for it... And they've been at it for over a year! Bluetooth audio will never be right, Bluetooth LE will stop working altogether and you'll experience major network connectivity issues... All on day one and with any of the custom ROMs out there. It seems that the LG is so proprietary that nothing can control it aside from the boring, bloated, ugly and battery eating stock.
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Thanks for the opinion, but I have to say I'm loving my D851.
I rooted it and installed TWRP straight out of the gate, so that I could make some changes I wanted to (such as uninstalling T-Mobile specific system apps, not needed for me on ATT), but I never even needed to change out the ROM. The phone works great on the stock ROM (minus a few things I manually debloated), and doesn't feel bloated or laggy. I didn't even bother to install the Cloudy ROM (debloated stock).
I did install the Google Now launcher, because I wasn't a fan of the stock UI. I like the things Google Now brings to the table and it cleaned up the UI.
After the first few days I stopped playing around with the phone because everything works great. Bluetooth to my car, no problem, great WIFI antenna and Cell receptivity as compared to my Galaxy S4. Nice screen, battery life is outstanding...
Loving the phone.
Can't disagree with Aalendi more. I've had the 851 for almost 18 months and running SR Lolly V6 - Final on it for the past 6 months. Works perfectly and even though I'm tempted from time to time to "upgrade" to another phone, I cannot find enough differences out there to warrant it. Android 6 is already emerging and I'm waiting to upgrade the ROM when I feel its almost glitch-free (which it's not at the moment. I think you made a fine decision. JM2C
Manual debloat?
I am sorta/kinda new to the ROM party and am able to install TWRP and flash/root my D851. However, I went back to the stock ROM because of Wi-Fi calling and more stable network connectivity than 3rd-party ROMS. My question to you is what do you mean by 'manual debloat'? Is that a function of TWRP or simply removing/disabling apps? Thanks.
Manual de-bloat refers to you being able to remove programs that carriers or manufacturers install on your phone when you first purchase it. Rooting your phone allows you to do this yourself.
EDIT: Thanks for the feedback I have made my final choice!
Hello G3 community!
After a recent decision to order the G3, I am heading to the lovely XDA forums of the G3 for some of my concerns. First off, I am looking to purchase not the unlocked version but a carrier version (like the D851) that is still unlocked. However, apart from the different bands used, what else should I look out for? Things are often different and may have some bugs the D855 won't have. For example, the G2 AT&T has a weird modem. Any of that stuff or other issues going on here? Also, how's AOSP and CM development? Anything that is vastly different and/or worse on the unofficial ROMs, like battery life and camera quality? What about laaaggg, a lot of people are complaining about it. Anything else that is worth mentioning?
I'm heading to all of you guys as all the reviews are just not going to be enough. You are the best reviewers of the phone!
Thank in advance,
Chris (AKA A recovering G2 user)
Camera on cm isnt as good i run a stocm based ro. Att d850 and had mine unlocked battery life is decent on cm and stck if u set it up right some people complain about cracks aroundthe bezel on heaphone jack usb port an ir blaster. Ive had mine a year almost and no cracks despite multiple drops one at 55 of my car. I recomend a high end protective case. And dont use the tempered glass screen protectors the reduce screen accuracy a lot also in my opinion development has slown down til i think the pending marshmallow update is release
Even though I used to be Nexus owner and prefer vanilla android experience, I still use LG's stock rom instead because it has got waaaay better camera, speaker is much louder and battery life is same as CM.
AOSP/CM isn't well developed for the G3 IMO because it has few bugs, bad camera and audio performance. I feel there is no difference in speed and smoothness when comparing stock rom to CM.
I can't help you about modems since I use international model.
If you are coming from a phone with an AMOLED screen, I would rather recommend you to search for an other phone or at least add few bucks for the G4 because G3's blacks are so terrible (black is literally grey). That is my only concern about the phone.
He is correct about the screen i done a red green blue adjustment and contrast adjust and i got.pretty decent blacks but its took me a while outa the box its way diffrent
Hello world,
I currently have a galaxy s2, running lollipop. I've stretched out the use of this puppy pretty far, but I've decided it's time to upgrade. At first I figured I'd go with something like an s5, but then I discovered the g3. It looks great, but of course the biggest design difference is the rear buttons. I can tell from reading that g3 owners really love it, but I don't have access to get my hands on one, and I'm hesitant to make the jump.
If I get one, I'll definitely root it, and I may install a custom ROM. Do custom ROMs still support the "knock on" feature? Would it work natively for most ROMs, or would I have to be careful about finding a ROM that supports it? Having that feature definitely makes the rear buttons less daunting. Does the knock-on feature eat up battery life?
I also like using my side volume keys to take pictures instead of the screen; does the rear button help with taking pictures, or is it easier to use the touchscreen?
I've never even used a navbar before, so jumping from all hard buttons to the g3 bezel is a big change for me.
Anything else I should know to help me decide?
Thanks for the advice!
I had a S2(plus) before i got the G3, you will get used to the back buttons pretty quick.
The rear buttons are good for non-landscape photos like selfies.
Some custom roms have the knock on feature, but they are based on the lg stock rom.
Also, you can find the G3 pretty cheap nowadays so if you are looking for great performance and good battery life(on MM) get the G3.
(Also, if you can, try to get the 32gb model as it comes with 3gb of ram)
E: the navbar will feel wierd at first as the back button is on the left side, this can be changed in the settings.
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Knock on has worked on every Rom I have tried, and I've tried a bunch. It does not noticeably reduce battery life.
Because there are no side buttons you need to use the screen to take photos, its never been a problem for me and the G3 takes some pretty good pictures if you are on an LG based Rom. Aosp or CM roms have no access to the cameras potential and end up taking pretty bad pictures compared to stock... Passable but stock is just that good.
My best selling points would be that this phone is still getting updates, is rooted, extensive development, performance on par with current flagships (for everyday use, not so much for gaming), has a very high screen to body ratio, has an or blaster, great battery life, SD card, removable battery, and great screen... It's hard to find a better phone and I have been looking.
I upgraded to the G4 when it came out and couldn't deal without root but it might be worth checking out now.
Every other phone either doesn't have root or doesn't have enough to beat the g3... My current work phone is a note 5 and I love/hate it... So much potential but no root and no sd
So it sounds like I would have to be careful about choosing just any ROMs. But are there a good amount of options that are stock-based, with room for customization? I tend to like the feature set of slim-based ROMs.
Thanks for the tip about the 32gb. I'm planning to spend about $200 on swappa, so it's right up my alley.
Thanks again!
arttuh said:
I had a S2(plus) before i got the G3, you will get used to the back buttons pretty quick.
The rear buttons are good for non-landscape photos like selfies.
Some custom roms have the knock on feature, but they are based on the lg stock rom.
Also, you can find the G3 pretty cheap nowadays so if you are looking for great performance and good battery life(on MM) get the G3.
(Also, if you can, try to get the 32gb model as it comes with 3gb of ram)
E: the navbar will feel wierd at first as the back button is on the left side, this can be changed in the settings.
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So it sounds like I would have to be careful about choosing just any ROMs. But are there a good amount of options that are stock-based, with room for customization? I tend to like the feature set of slim-based ROMs.
Thanks for the tip about the 32gb. I'm planning to spend about $200 on swappa, so it's right up my alley.
Thanks again!
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I've had my G3 for half a year now, loved it.
Regarding your questions,
- Almost every single rom is equipped with knock on feature (double-tap to wake), while knock code (tapping a preset sequence on your screen-off) is only available on stock roms. Yes it's integrated natively, and no it doesn't eat up battery life.
- Yes you can use volume buttons to take pictures on G3, just that they are on the rear now. I actually prefer this because it's more natural to use my index finger on the read to take a picture, as compared to pressing side volume buttons on my old Optimus G. You'll get used to the rear buttons and find that they are much more comfortable to use than side buttons.
- You will probably get used to the navbar really quickly, given that it works the same way as physical buttons
- There are a variety of roms to choose from, and the best stock-based I've used so far is the Ti-X rom which is a continuation of CloudyG3 2.5. Some of them may not be on xda but on Google+ you can find more (NovaStock, Lion rom, etc.)
A few pointers you should note:
- Marshmallow, as of now, is only out for Poland and Korea G3, though it will roll out to other countries soon enough.
- There have been reports of overheating but recent updates solved that issue for me so yay!
- AOSP roms like cyanogenmod, candysix, etc, will not be able to make use of the full potential of the camera. You can flash camera mods like m9 camera mod but it will still not be as good as on stock.
So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
Unless you're looking to get the T-Mobile (811) or the International EU (815) version, there is no way to install custom roms. Those are the only two unlockable variants.
The other versions are rootable if you stay on 5.1.1 LP, but if you want 6.0 MM, you'll be stuck with the T-Mobile or EU Int version. There is no way to root all the other variants on 6.0
Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
As far as I can tell the ROMs based on stock are very stable. You won't even notice the difference. CM and CM based ROMs are the usual. Stable but have a few annoying bugs. I haven't really tried any AOSP so I won't speak for those
Heres my opinion.i have a tmobile version and if i flasha custom rom it seems to drop the bands as i cannot get signal in places where i can on stock based custom roms or pure stock rom.it does not switch between towers properly and i lose the ability to make or recieve calls.when i check phone info on aosp or cm based roms it shows it uses only 4 of the 12 bands i have.
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So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
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I made the same transition; from Galaxy S4 to Lg G4.
I'm running stock with Xposed. The G4 Tweaksbox app has a themes option and I've got a stock android one applied. It's really stable (I always expect themes to go crazy). The only other thing is the settings. You can get a stock settings mod but I don't really see the point. It works well enough for me and settings isn't really something you'd aim to be going on everyday anyway.
The clip tray is annoying but can be disabled. Add nova launcher and Google keyboard and it's all good. This is a much better solution than a custom ROM. You'll never get this kind of stability. Not forgetting that your camera app and fm radio and others will also be gone.
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When buying, make sure the serial number starts with 601 or 602 603... These phones were manufactured this year so hopefully won't have the bootloop bug. If buying 2nd hand, ask the seller for the serial. If they can't provide it, ask for the IMEI and look up the serial number using https://imeidata.net/warranty/lg
There are too many references for 6XX bootloop issues, so I wouldn't recommend LG G4 at all , for custom theming,roms etc. Even after replacing motherboards of 5xx to 6xx, the bootloops are something more common than I used to believe...
personally am very happy with g4(601). best combo for me is Genisys Rom 4.2 + SimpleGX KERNEL (then Tweaksbox, xposed & nova launcher). very stable, no lags, speedy, good battery, amazing camera/lg app. downsides are unlocking bootloader voids warranty & the body corner feels painfully sharp after a while in the hand.
I am happy with the G4 too, 601 as well , but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that there are many issues with the phone! I hope the OP can enjoy and proceed at his own risk of course!
Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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I'll be honest with you.....my mom has this phone and has massive battery drain issues, where as I have none. If your going for good battery and fast updates than Motorola will be your best bud, but if you don't mind mediocre battery but a kick ass camera then the G4 will be your best bud. PS it's as good as point and shoot this is coming from someone that does photography for a living.
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I also have little to no faith in LG anymore. Moving on to bigger better things but will ride it out until my upgrade is eligible.
Going back to Samsung, Motorola, Huawei or HTC.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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I used to be one of those who buys a flagship device, then immediately look for bootloader unlock, root and flash. But after having LG G4 for 3 weeks now, stock MM latest, installed with my needed apps and games, I lost the feel of flashing custom ROMs.
G4 is great as it is, although optimizations can be done, a little upgrade here and there. As long as LG supports G4 with updates and with their accessories, then I'll stay with LG as manufacturer. Of they abandon us (like what they did with G PRO), then I'll switch devices.
LG has been my favorite since 2013.
Overlord Yuri said:
Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
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Be extremely cautious where you get your 815 from. I bought one from Value basket that was advertised as a European Variant for the express purpose of developing a CFW- When it came it wasn't and they refused to exchange it. I've got an email trail as long as your arm trying to get the thing exchanged but they're just con-merchants.
But it's still an awesome phone....
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if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look?
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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Smartest move you could have ever made. LG has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Ever since I got my phone back with a new circuit board it feels like a ticking time bomb and I don't use it for anything other than texting, phone use and browsing. How pathetic is that.
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Hey guys,
Having been here for sometime, I find development of our device is very slow. But there is progress. I mean the fingerprint was resolved, root was resolved. Almost all critical requirements are stable or near to stable.
Keeping that aside, may I ask why VoLTE is not available in any custom ROM? While it works perfectly with stock considering the fact that stock is actually near to stock Android.
With my previous device(Redmi note 3), a wonderful device, VoLTE bug was solved by restoring the correct Radio, Firmware and the EFS partition (mentioning so that it might become useful).
Will that method work for our device? I mean has anyone tried that? Or should we wait for official source release from Lenovo or is it that we've live without VoLTE ?
Sorry for the long post, Thanks for your patience.
Hi, we have Volte code in Lineage 14.1 intial builds.. but later its Gone..!
dont know why.. hope someone answers your question.. !
Not sure if developers are aware of it since majority won't use VoLTE. In the case of Redmi note 3, it's popularity in the Indian market (demanding Reliance Jio) forced devs to find a fix.
Well clearly that's not the case for P2. As we lack popularity and most ROMs are ported rather than built from scratch (I assume. pl correct me if I'm wrong). As a result no one has actually gone into it. If Lenovo has not released the source code then restoring some partition related the radio bands from stock ROM should solve the issue right? Atleast that was the case in RN3.
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Not sure if developers are aware of it since majority won't use VoLTE. In the case of Redmi note 3, it's popularity in the Indian market (demanding Reliance Jio) forced devs to find a fix.
Well clearly that's not the case for P2. As we lack popularity and most ROMs are ported rather than built from scratch (I assume. pl correct me if I'm wrong). As a result no one has actually gone into it. If Lenovo has not released the source code then restoring some partition related the radio bands from stock ROM should solve the issue right? Atleast that was the case in RN3.
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I am also skeptical to buy p2.The development is not great while RN3 has the best development I guess.Thats why I am stuck in between rn 4 and p2.
If you're crazy for developing then P2 is not for you. I prefer not to do any mods as of now cuz I'm doing all my experiments on RN3
So I bought this having no plans for development... Root yes... But custom ROMs... Nah... RN3 keeps me busy with that.. having said that, I wouldn't prefer RN4 just for the fact that it has better development. Look for other features too.. like the battery and display for instance... And camera too... Honestly I completely disagree with the fact that many complain the camera sucks... I don't really see a reason why as in its a Sony exmor sensor with an f2.2 aperture. Yes it's an f2.2 aperture so low light will be bad it's obvious. But under normal lighting, or sun it's perfect top notch.
Only feature they missed out was an image stabilizer. They could have added any image stabilization tool but then.. for the price it's pretty much over featured I'd say.
Goodluck
This is actually my first phone in a long time that I have no desire to root.
No bloatware to get rid of and have a nice non-root as blocker.
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If you're crazy for developing then P2 is not for you. I prefer not to do any mods as of now cuz I'm doing all my experiments on RN3
So I bought this having no plans for development... Root yes... But custom ROMs... Nah... RN3 keeps me busy with that.. having said that, I wouldn't prefer RN4 just for the fact that it has better development. Look for other features too.. like the battery and display for instance... And camera too... Honestly I completely disagree with the fact that many complain the camera sucks... I don't really see a reason why as in its a Sony exmor sensor with an f2.2 aperture. Yes it's an f2.2 aperture so low light will be bad it's obvious. But under normal lighting, or sun it's perfect top notch.
Only feature they missed out was an image stabilizer. They could have added any image stabilization tool but then.. for the price it's pretty much over featured I'd say.
Goodluck
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reality1234 said:
*F2.0
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Yehp f2.0 my bad... 2.2 is for the front one
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Yehp f2.0 my bad... 2.2 is for the front one
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I am actually deciding which to buy.This is for 13k at Flipkart but development is worrying me so I May go for note 4.What do you suggest?
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I am actually deciding which to buy.This is for 13k at Flipkart but development is worrying me so I May go for note 4.What do you suggest?
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Like I said, I wouldn't normally put features above development, but considering this phone specs features and having used it, I'd definitely suggest P2.
But then there are other factors..
1. Bored to bones with MiUI
2. Redmi feels cheaper and delicate (not sure if I'm alone on this). Holding my RN3 and P2 I could easily pick P2.
3. Camera.. MiUI camera app is ugh.. there's no need for explaining I literally hate it.
4. I'm enjoying P2 without any mods.. not evenroot. Clearly not my type.. but i was able to blend in..
That pretty much sums it up. Posts are bit lengthy because I've been through and did a lot of thinking... Hope I was able to help..
Bottom line, you want development go for RN4 else P2 however you can pretty much stay without rooting.
Another option is recommend is the zuk z2
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Like I said, I wouldn't normally put features above development, but considering this phone specs features and having used it, I'd definitely suggest P2.
But then there are other factors..
1. Bored to bones with MiUI
2. Redmi feels cheaper and delicate (not sure if I'm alone on this). Holding my RN3 and P2 I could easily pick P2.
3. Camera.. MiUI camera app is ugh.. there's no need for explaining I literally hate it.
4. I'm enjoying P2 without any mods.. not evenroot. Clearly not my type.. but i was able to blend in..
That pretty much sums it up. Posts are bit lengthy because I've been through and did a lot of thinking... Hope I was able to help..
Bottom line, you want development go for RN4 else P2 however you can pretty much stay without rooting.
Another option is recommend is the zuk z2
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I an getting more battery, amoled display,fast charging with fast charger and almost stock rom.Thats why I am leaning towards p2.AND i personally like p2'a design.Hope development catches up because 2 devs are here doing all the work for this device.I actually kinda feel sad that p2 didn't sell much.Lenovo should have advertised it.RN4 isn't that great in front of this device.And Xiaomi hasn't even released the sources for RN4 still it's so well developed.I really want this device,but I am a guy that flashes roms like every week.Trying out different roms is my passion:silly:.Had it been Moto P2 instead of Lenovo p2,You could have seen a lot more sales
Hello.
I have my P2 for a month, it is the first phone I do not try to root !!
I would like that LENOVO is a true follow-up on this P2. Better than they did to finalize Nougat 7.0.
As said above, if it to a default is the lack of photo stabilizer.
Can I expect a pass on Android 8.0 :fingers-crossed: ... A dream ?
Is there anybody working on "VOLTE Patch" ???