G5 signal - Moto G5 Questions & Answers

Has anyone else had problems with signal on the G5 ?
I live out in the country and the signal has always been a bit hit and miss but I could always use my G3 inside and out, just had a new G5 and the signal is much worse.
Could it be a faulty phone (fine in town though) or is it just how they are, don't really want to go back to old phone but thinking about it.

Check if is so with both 3G, 4G

bookworth said:
Check if is so with both 3G, 4G
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It's the same with both
Also takes much longer to find signal again once lost.

Wish i could help you. I use my phone in country side with 2g and to me the phone seems to act like all others i've had. You could try to change it but it can also be that for lower sars numbers the signal strength is lower.

It's been a while but finally got to exchange it and I've still got the same problem, annoying thing is I can get a reasonable signal on an old phone but not the g5.
Is there a decent alternative to the g5 for the £200 mark ?

bill1000 said:
It's been a while but finally got to exchange it and I've still got the same problem, annoying thing is I can get a reasonable signal on an old phone but not the g5.
Is there a decent alternative to the g5 for the £200 mark ?
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An old phone might be using a 2g network which will be alot stronger in the country
Moto g5 is set to use 4g by default which is non existent in the country in some places
You can change it to force it to only use 3g though
Goto settings
More
Mobile networks
Preferred network type
Change to 3g
Some networks like Three in the UK don't even have a 2g network - their minimum is 3g
My advice is to do a Google search for what mobile phone masts you have in your area and what network owns them and get a payg sim for that network (or company that uses that network eg giffgaff use O2 network)

I've tried the 3g setting but it makes no difference
From past experience it's only really the o2 network that works around here, rest of the family have iphones and samsung all on the same network and it's only the g5 that is unusable.

bill1000 said:
I've tried the 3g setting but it makes no difference
From past experience it's only really the o2 network that works around here, rest of the family have iphones and samsung all on the same network and it's only the g5 that is unusable.
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you can always try adding/editing these entries in the build prop if you are rooted - no idea if it will make any difference though
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persist.cust.tel.eons=1
ro.config.hw_fast_dormancy=1

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Three network - 2G/3G

I went into Three shop on Oxford street today and aksed about returned defective handsets, but she didn`t know what I`m talking about. After I explained, she said they don`t use 2G for voice any more, its all 3G now, hence no returned phones with volume bug. "All 2G masts have been replaced with 3G ones, very very few 2G left".
I thought 3G was only for data? Or it can also transmit voice? Some time ago I remember they used o2 for their voice calls?
I`m currently on Vodafone and their coverage is so crap. Try getting signal(iPhone 4) indoors with thick walls or with steel constructions - good luck. Not even talking getting 3G for data. But my Three USB broadband dongle just flies, no difference indoors/outdoors whatsoever. Very impressive.
So, would this mean that if I switch to Three, my voice coverage would also be much better not just 3G?
I'm with 3 uk, good coverage and signal most places. I was told that 3 doesn't use the 900Mhz band so I can only assume it uses 3g for voice as well.
I've also had the GNexus for a week and not noticed the volume bug at all.
2G can be either voice or Data. You get crappy speeds compared to 3G, and the trade off is you can only have one running at the given time, meaning you can't browse the web while in a call.
3G is the next step after 2G, and allows for both voice and data(at least on a GSM carrier), and offers a lot better speeds than 2G.
To answer your last question, it really depends on the coverage you have in the area, so I cannot answer it; you just have to try it out yourself.
I am on three network, I am pretty sure they using "3g" (probably why its called three?), and don't actually has any 2g network/mast anymore. In fact, when you request for a sim card from three, it says you must have a 3g type of phone.
Where you get areas that doesn't have 3g, it will fall back to 2g but will be using someone elses network to provide (last I had heard was orange network). Not sure if that is true anymore as that news I had heard is a few years old.
They used to have a deal with orange to carry 2G, and it still works in a few places, although officially they'll tell you that's all done with. Three have been aggressively rolling out their network to replace all that (which is why you can get 3g signal in fields in the middle of nowhere).
Three only has 3g masts which means you get 3g signal pretty much everywhere. If you go somewhere with a poor or non existent 3g signal the phone will roam on to Orange 2g. Three used to have a roaming agreement with Orange for the entire uk however, recently they have started to end this agreement with Orange in areas where they know the 3g network is strong enough.
I'm with three and if you're on the three 3g network it will show 3 as the operator when you pull down the notification bar. If you roam on to Orange 2g it shows 3 with another 3 directly underneath it. On a side note I actually left orange for three due to signal issues, oh how the tides have changed since three first started out with 3g .
Oh and Three use 2100mhz for their 3g network and Orange use 1800mhz for their 2g which is why customers on Three or Orange never have the volume issue which affects people on o2 and Vodafone(both mainly use the 900mhz frequencies).
Rik.
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DDRFAN said:
2G can be either voice or Data. You get crappy speeds compared to 3G, and the trade off is you can only have one running at the given time, meaning you can't browse the web while in a call.
3G is the next step after 2G, and allows for both voice and data(at least on a GSM carrier), and offers a lot better speeds than 2G.
To answer your last question, it really depends on the coverage you have in the area, so I cannot answer it; you just have to try it out yourself.
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Simultaneously? Can I surf web and at least receive phone call & sms? Or if somebody calls me it will go to voicemail?
aindow said:
Three only has 3g masts which means you get 3g signal pretty much everywhere. If you go somewhere with a poor or non existent 3g signal the phone will roam on to Orange 2g. Three used to have a roaming agreement with Orange for the entire uk however, recently they have started to end this agreement with Orange in areas where they know the 3g network is strong enough.
I'm with three and if you're on the three 3g network it will show 3 as the operator when you pull down the notification bar. If you roam on to Orange 2g it shows 3 with another 3 directly underneath it. On a side note I actually left orange for three due to signal issues, oh how the tides have changed since three first started out with 3g .
Oh and Three use 2100mhz for their 3g network and Orange use 1800mhz for their 2g which is why customers on Three or Orange never have the volume issue which affects people on o2 and Vodafone(both mainly use the 900mhz frequencies).
Rik.
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i'm confused.. does this mean three does not also get hsdpa? or hspa+? i get that signal on my orange desire hd - as the galaxy nexus is hspa+ device its now got me puzzled.. hmmm..
Three will not let you use 2g signal. They lock all their phones up so it's not possible. That's how they claim to have the fastest network in the uk. If your our of a 3G signal area, you have no signal.
GR36 said:
Three will not let you use 2g signal. They lock all their phones up so it's not possible. That's how they claim to have the fastest network in the uk. If your our of a 3G signal area, you have no signal.
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Are you sure?! That sounds very unrealistic.
MrYuzhai said:
i'm confused.. does this mean three does not also get hsdpa? or hspa+? i get that signal on my orange desire hd - as the galaxy nexus is hspa+ device its now got me puzzled.. hmmm..
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Three has HSDPA/+ because I have their mobile broadband USB dongle.
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Three will not let you use 2g signal. They lock all their phones up so it's not possible. That's how they claim to have the fastest network in the uk. If your our of a 3G signal area, you have no signal.
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That is rubbish IMO. Three use orange 2g as already said if there isn't 3g network. I work in the middle of nowhere and get excellent 3g signal from three. I have tried all operators before three and it has the best coverage and speed that I have found. Its like having 3 meg broadband.
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I've used a 2G signal recently on 3 so can't agree with that either.
What I heard though is the 2G will be restricted to voice only? Not sure how true that is.
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rbs_uk said:
Simultaneously? Can I surf web and at least receive phone call & sms? Or if somebody calls me it will go to voicemail?
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yes, on 3G or HSPA you can be online and receive calls and texts simultaneously.
with 2G you can only receive texts whilst in a call.
rbs_uk said:
GR36 said:
Three will not let you use 2g signal. They lock all their phones up so it's not possible. That's how they claim to have the fastest network in the uk. If your our of a 3G signal area, you have no signal.
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Are you sure?! That sounds very unrealistic.
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it's not unrealistic, it's true
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That is rubbish IMO. Three use orange 2g as already said if there isn't 3g network.
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According to this article dated more than a year ago, you are wrong.
oscillik, once again you're the one that's wrong. Three do still allow you to roam onto oranges 2g network in areas with no 3g signal. I know this is true as I still occasionally do it.
Did you even bother reading the Reg article you posted. Try reading the very first paragraph "3 has started to switch off roaming onto Orange's 2G network in locations where it reckons its own coverage makes the 2G partner redundant."
If that looks familiar, it should as it's almost exactly what chrishiggins said.
You must be getting used to being wrong by now...
erbain said:
oscillik, once again you're the one that's wrong. Three do still allow you to roam onto oranges 2g network in areas with no 3g signal. I know this is true as I still occasionally do it.
Did you even bother reading the Reg article you posted. Try reading the very first paragraph "3 has started to switch off roaming onto Orange's 2G network in locations where it reckons its own coverage makes the 2G partner redundant."
If that looks familiar, it should as it's almost exactly what chrishiggins said.
You must be getting used to being wrong by now...
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Actually you are wrong. Here is what chrishiggins said, with the pertinent details bolded for you
chrishiggins said:
That is rubbish IMO. Three use orange 2g as already said if there isn't 3g network. I work in the middle of nowhere and get excellent 3g signal from three. I have tried all operators before three and it has the best coverage and speed that I have found. Its like having 3 meg broadband.
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Now, as you can see, he quite clearly states that even in the middle of nowhere, he gets excellent 3G signal. Nowhere in his post does he make any allusions to anything that the Register article mentions.
Also, yes I did read the article, particularly the part that states that the article is a year old.
Since you seem to be so keen on facts, please, find every single instance of where I have been wrong and haven't admitted to being so, and post the evidence for all to see, collated into one area.
Take your time.
Wow, what have you been smoking? I know what he said, you have quoted it several times.
Let's try this one more time :
"Three use orange 2g as already said if there isn't 3g network" This is what you originally quoted and stated was wrong, it is in fact true and is exactly what the Reg article says. You used to be able to use orange 2g anywhere in the UK but now you can only use it where there no good 3g signal.
"I work in the middle of nowhere and get excellent 3g signal from three" So he has a good 3g signal at his work, what's this got to do with being able to roam onto 2g in bad 3g areas?
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Since you seem to be so keen on facts, please, find every single instance of where I have been wrong and haven't admitted to being so, and post the evidence for all to see, collated into one area.
Take your time.
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I think I'll pass, but If I'm reading a thread where you're spewing ****e and generally being rude I'll make a point of replying.
erbain said:
Wow, what have you been smoking? I know what he said, you have quoted it several times.
Let's try this one more time :
"Three use orange 2g as already said if there isn't 3g network" This is what you originally quoted and stated was wrong, it is in fact true and is exactly what the Reg article says. You used to be able to use orange 2g anywhere in the UK but now you can only use it where there no good 3g signal.
"I work in the middle of nowhere and get excellent 3g signal from three" So he has a good 3g signal at his work, what's this got to do with being able to roam onto 2g in bad 3g areas?
I think I'll pass, but If I'm reading a thread where you're spewing ****e and generally being rude I'll make a point of replying.
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I apologise for being wrong with regard to your first point. As you have correctly made me out to be a fool here, chrishiggins does say that. Although it is still yet to be ascertained whether 3-UK still have any existing 2G roaming agreement with Orange, and if so, what areas this covers. I'm sure you can agree with me that 3-UK should really be a bit more transparent about which areas are able to receive 2G roaming. This would be beneficial for all existing and prospective customers.
The second point has a lot to do with being able to roam onto 2G in bad 3G areas, since in the majority of cases, 'middle-of-nowhere' places tend to not have 3G coverage. Now I know that is a very vague definition, but it is one that I'm sure you have experienced yourself. I would be very surprised if you had kept 3G reception whilst being in a place that most would regard as being in the middle of nowhere.
As for your closing point, I respect your tenacity. After the conversation we've had, you've successfully proven me wrong regarding something I have said, made me out to be a fool, and furthered the exploration of fact. You weren't trolling, you actually had a beef with what I had said. All in all, you've come out on top here, I've been given a swift clip round the ear, and other readers should hopefully be more informed. Can we at least agree that this is a positive outcome?
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I apologise for being wrong with regard to your first point. As you have correctly made me out to be a fool here, chrishiggins does say that. Although it is still yet to be ascertained whether 3-UK still have any existing 2G roaming agreement with Orange, and if so, what areas this covers. I'm sure you can agree with me that 3-UK should really be a bit more transparent about which areas are able to receive 2G roaming. This would be beneficial for all existing and prospective customers.
The second point has a lot to do with being able to roam onto 2G in bad 3G areas, since in the majority of cases, 'middle-of-nowhere' places tend to not have 3G coverage. Now I know that is a very vague definition, but it is one that I'm sure you have experienced yourself. I would be very surprised if you had kept 3G reception whilst being in a place that most would regard as being in the middle of nowhere.
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It would be nice if 3 were a bit more transparent about where 2g was still available, unfortunately I don't see that ever happening.
Personally I've had a fairly good experience with 3 over the last 5 months, I get a good 3g signal at home and at work and find it generally OK. I was down in Cornwall a couple months ago staying in a hotel that could have been described as the middle of nowhere, I had no 3g signal but I was still able to roam onto 2g, so I know it still works in some places.
3 do seem to have improved there network since I last used them a few years ago. As a bonus, I think my GN is able to pick up a weaker 3g signal than my N1 was, maybe the hspa+ radio helps.
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As for your closing point, I respect your tenacity. After the conversation we've had, you've successfully proven me wrong regarding something I have said, made me out to be a fool, and furthered the exploration of fact. You weren't trolling, you actually had a beef with what I had said. All in all, you've come out on top here, I've been given a swift clip round the ear, and other readers should hopefully be more informed. Can we at least agree that this is a positive outcome?
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I try to never troll, If I'm arguing a point it's because I believe what I'm saying is correct. Anyway I'm glad in this instance we're able to agree
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Are you sure?! That sounds very unrealistic.
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Indeed, I'm calling BS here, I've been talking to them recently, they were telling me they don't run 2G themselves. If there really is no 3G coverage, they have a fallback in place that runs off the back of Orange.
They are slowing turning off 2G fallback in places where they consider their 3G coverage to be more than adequate.
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[Q] LG G3 Three UK Signal Dropping

Hi all,
Is anyone else experiencing terrible signal on Three UK? My dad just got his G3 and compared to his Nokia 925 signal on Three is atrocious, and seems to drop in an out constantly?
Anyone else experiencing the same?
Not on 3 but I'm on ee (T-Mobile) and I have some prob outs at times that I found has been bit strange but most the time I have great signal.
I am on Three, had no signal concerns at all except in areas of weak signal. The phone doesn't seem great at maintaining a connection when signal is weak, whereas other phones might stay with 1 bar this drops to none, but otherwise signal is as good as can be expected.
No problems here
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I have had this problem on 3 UK. I found that going into network settings and choosing the network mode without LTE stopped it from happening! Any idea why this may be anyone? Do we have defective units?
Matt
The g3 is just very slow at finding signal when its lost signal - what is happening is you are losing signal (even if just a split second), any other phone would probably instantly reconnect but the G3 seems slow - this is all software based (well, radio firmware) and can be fixed (and word on the street is that it will be fixed in the next, August, release).
Lennyuk said:
The g3 is just very slow at finding signal when its lost signal - what is happening is you are losing signal (even if just a split second), any other phone would probably instantly reconnect but the G3 seems slow - this is all software based (well, radio firmware) and can be fixed (and word on the street is that it will be fixed in the next, August, release).
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Thanks for the info, I won't be sending this off any time soon then! Also thanks for your unroot and chromecast volume fix guides they have been very helpful.
Wouldn't enabling fast dormancy help to find the signal quicker if it loses it?
I have also seem a connection problem on three in the UK. I figured switching off lte stopped it happening so much but then again I get 4G free and three tell me I have good signal strength for it so it seems silly to turn it off. Having said that I haven't seen it pop up once yet. Anybody tell me what the signal icons are on the G3, I have only had H so far? Cheers
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stigslim said:
I have also seem a connection problem on three in the UK. I figured switching off lte stopped it happening so much but then again I get 4G free and three tell me I have good signal strength for it so it seems silly to turn it off. Having said that I haven't seen it pop up once yet. Anybody tell me what the signal icons are on the G3, I have only had H so far? Cheers
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I haven't seen the 4g logo yet either as I live away from any LTE areas, I've seen H and H+, 4g will show up as either LTE or a 4g symbol so I assume that your phone isn't connected to LTE/4g if you haven't seen either of those
Yep that's what I figured. Tweeted three cs but didn't seem to get much help. Thought maybe it's because I'm a SIM only customer. But I have checked there website and to all intents I should be connecting. 4G is good on my area. Not sure what else to try?
Enable fast dormancy for the 3 network. 4G works great on 3 in cities where it is supported.
How to enable fast dormancy? Website gives my area a good signal. I don't even get H+ which I did with my galaxy s3.
stigslim said:
Yep that's what I figured. Tweeted three cs but didn't seem to get much help. Thought maybe it's because I'm a SIM only customer. But I have checked there website and to all intents I should be connecting. 4G is good on my area. Not sure what else to try?
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Have you tried the options when you enter 3845#*855# into the phone ? I had to use this as I was not getting LTE. See here for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/mod-root-activate-lte-g3-t2819387
The option its already in my network settings menu and switched on. Are these different? Just can't put my finger on it.
I am having the same issue with my LG G3 on Three, the signal is much worse than my galaxy S3. Drops out randomly in my house and then takes ages to get a signal again.
Wondering whether to send it back our not as a phone with bad reception is kind of pointless! Anything perhaps fixable with a new firmware for the radio?
Yep exact same issues. Hoping it's not the phone (bought it myself not from three) really like it and Up to now three was great ? gutted.
It seems the phone either had really good or really bad reception. In poor area's it's quite flaky and can drop out easily when moving between rooms or even how you hold it.
If the reception is good you can get some great speeds on 4G though. Hoping they fix the issues with low signal strength soon as it's quite annoying.
Had a text from three saying they were going to fix my issue within the next seven days. Not picked up a 4g signal at all yet. So watch this space.
I also had problems with signal. I got a replacement SIM & that seems to have improved matters.

4G not working(UK)

I was wondering why my phone always displayed the 3G logo next to signal bar so decided to investigate further. Despite living in the centre of town the 4G around here is quite patchy so I put an identical "Three(3UK)" 4G sim in my old Moto G 4G phone and went outside to compare...sure enough, the Moto G was showing 4G while the P8000 showed 3G. As far as I know I have never seen 4G in the display. The phone will be going back if I can't get 4G!
Anyone else experienced this or am I the odd one out?
4G is selected under preferred network type.
Have you tried Editting the APN settings to that for Three?
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Go to dial pad and type:
*#*#4636#*#* that should take you to phone info. then on nework mode choose LTE only and see if it works...
APN seems fine, thanks for that hashcode @ferreinf - I will try that when I'm definitely in a 4g area near my flat
My brother has just got one and is having exactly the same issue on Three. Any joy?
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Wilbatron said:
My brother has just got one and is having exactly the same issue on Three. Any joy?
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I drove to a 4g area nearby today and force enabled LTE only as described(you can also d/l MTK engineering app from playstore to do this) - I did manage to get the 4g symbol above the signal bars but a speedtest didn't really produce what you might expect from a 4g connection...the symbol did change back by itself to H about a minute later so I'm not quite sure what's going on here....I might have an old Vodafone PAYG sim somewhere so my next move might be to try it instead. Haven't got access to EE or O2/giffgaff cards to test. APN settings seem to be correct and 3g data does work quite well so it's interesting that your bro has the same issues, where did he buy his phone and what colour is it(does his have the blue notification led in home button?)
Wilbatron said:
My brother has just got one and is having exactly the same issue on Three. Any joy?
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I use 3 4G I have no problem
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where did he buy his phone and what colour is it(does his have the blue notification led in home button?)
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I think it might have been geekbuying, it only came today. Black one with blue LED. I got him to try switching to LTE only and he said he got a 4g signal but lost ability to make calls. I'm also on 3 but with a Honor 6 and I'm due to see him tomorrow so I'll have a tinker myself and see how his signal is compared to mine in the same location.
That will indeed be a good test, I was out again in another location tonight and noticed the 4g come on by itself so perhaps that's a good sign - I'll have to test the calls function when on 4g tomorrow but it should automatically revert to 3g for that surely. I am using the flyme rom by the way...my area is supposed to have 4g according to the coverage checker but it's bloody useless around here!
That Honor 6 better be good for $300 though you probably paid more at the time(did you get single or dual sim?),
I actually bought the P8000 for my wife but she finds it too heavy and the screen too big so I'm stuck with the big gold brick - at least the battery life is pretty good!
Tested the 4g again and it seems to be working better now that I forced it to LTE through the engineering menu and when you make a call it reverts to 3g then cycles back to H then 4g when you end call. Didn't test d/l speed as I had my payg card in and running a 4g speedtest burns quite a lot of data!
So how do you rate your Honor 6 against your bros phone?
4g just popped up on mine, got 25.3 down and 2.2 up. Not sure if that's good or bad to he honest.
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That's pretty good I'd say, I would be happy with that! I flashed the stock ROM back today and forced phone to LTE and your bro is right about the calls not working as the phone doesn't revert to 3g for voice automatically so I might have to go back to flyme...hope cm ROM is here soon and that it works well!
Tried again today on stock rom not forced to 4G and the phone did pick up 4g automatically as I was driving around, calls worked too so it seems that problem has magically fixed itself as it wasn't showing 4g at all the first week I had it! Still getting the annoying random wifi hangs and camera crashes when trying to use with other apps(waze in my case).
there's an firmware update adressing this issue, dated august 15th. it should fix this.
http://bbs.elephone.hk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=7096
Sorry, not been back to this thread since contributing before.
My brother is still complaining about internet speeds. When I sat with him I was getting H+ but his phone was just showing 3G. Tried to force to 4G only but that resulted in no signal (we were in a weak 4G area). So my main concern at the mo is that he might not be getting H+ and is only either getting standard 3G.
It's difficult to debug from afar, but I did all the usual engineering menu stuff when I was with him and none of that seemed to help. I'm seeing him again on Saturday and we'll both be in a 4G area so I'll at least be able to do some more comparisons...
Regarding my Honor, it's a lovely phone. I paid about £200 for the single SIM European version of it back in January. I had a Lenovo A830 prior to that so I'm a big Chinaphone fan, but didn't want anything bigger than 5" which is what made me go for the Honor. The P8000 seems very nice too though!
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I remember on my A830 having to flash a different modem / radio image to get the correct bands and I notice a similar issue with some import OPOs detailed here forums.oneplus.net/threads/modem-hack-for-chinese-opo-to-enable-3g.46696 - I suspect a similar issue might be at play here.
Might flash the FlyMe ROM for him at the weekend seeing as people have had success with that...
Hi,
I have 4G issue too but have yet to see 4G display once and I"m in a strong signal area.
I have configured my APN for giffgaff, data is enabled, 4g is "preferred" in options and LTE is forced in Eng menu as above *#*#4636#*#*
But still no 4g from my sim which is working as tried in another phone any ideas please?
what does the 3g with a smaller 3g behind it mean?
Regards

Force network roaming

Hello,
I have an issue with my S9+ (Actually with every phone I ever owned, but the S9+ is the worse) : It prefers to stay on a weak network rather than switching to a strong roaming network.
I live close to the border, and I'm crossing it every day, so my phone is basically never working....
I don't pay for roaming, so I would prefer that the phone switch network when its under a certain signal strength.
Is there a possibility to tweak something to force the phone to switch network when it's too low, and also to tell him that its fine to stay in roaming.
Thanks in advance
Same issue. Did you find a solution?
I'm considering forcing 4G with such an app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smtgroup.lte4g3gnetworkandsecretsettings
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Same issue. Did you find a solution?
I'm considering forcing 4G with such an app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smtgroup.lte4g3gnetworkandsecretsettings
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Weak antenna?

Seeing 4 bars of LTE signal strength on my phone is like seeing a unicorn.
I live in Upstate NY and I have the A705MN phone.
I have tried three different sim cards, all of them of course GSM compatible. The result is exactly the same among all three. I typically get 1 or 2 bars LTE.
My previous phones under the same carrier and same sim card were typically 4-5 bars. (The Wifi strength, BTW, is equal to what I've seen from my other phones.)
What can I do to improve the signal strength?
I've seen posts by those with S10's where they do something to disable specific bands. But I'm not sure how to do that on the A70 phone. I've tried the specific codes that were mentioned in threads for the S10, but those codes do not work on the A70.
Please help. As much as I like the Samsung otherwise, this factor might be the reason I return the phone.
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106IFA said:
Seeing 4 or 5 bars of LTE signal strength on my phone is like seeing a unicorn.
I live in Upstate NY and I have the A705MN phone.
I have tried three different sim cards, all of them of course GSM compatible. The result is exactly the same among all three. I typically get 1-3 bars LTE.
My previous phones under the same carrier and same sim card were typically 4-5 bars. (The Wifi strength, BTW, is equal to what I've seen from my other phones.)
What can I do to improve the signal strength?
I've seen posts by those with S10's where they do something to disable specific bands. But I'm not sure how to do that on the A70 phone. I've tried the specific codes that were mentioned in threads for the S10, but those codes do not work on the A70.
Please help. As much as I like the Samsung otherwise, this factor might be the reason I return the phone.
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Try LTE only settings in settings>connections.
senseijtitus said:
Try LTE only settings in settings>connections.
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Thank you for the screenshots.
I edited the access point that I'm using and changed it to LTE. But then when I go to select network mode, I cannot chose LTE Only. That option does not show up. I have tried rebooting after editing and selecting the Access Point, and I still do not see that option.
I have tried using apps such as 4g Network Only and have switched to LTE only, but that change does not seem to make a difference or the network goes down altogether.
Any suggestions?
senseijtitus said:
Try LTE only settings in set5ings>connections.
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There was a post in the forum for using settings editor app to enable LTE only option. It will enable this option for both sims.
senseijtitus said:
There was a post in the forum for using settings editor app to enable LTE only option. It will enable this option for both sims.
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I haven't been able to do this or find what it is you're referring to. I've tried adding a few values through Settings editor apps. Values such as "hw_networkmode_preference" etc.
Doesn't work.
But besides, why would setting the connection to LTE only fix this problem? I don't see how this is not a herring.
Most of the times I am see 2 bars of strength. Every now and then I get 3 bars, and more frequently than that I get only 1 bar. 4 bars is quite rare.
The real problem with this antenna is that if I step inside a supermarket or bathroom then my connection is gone. If I'm traveling around the state of NY, in more remote areas, I'm sure I will not have a chance of any connection.
I would LOVE this phone if it had a better antenna. I can deal with the subpar fingerprint reader. Just give me a strong antenna like all of my previous phones and then I'd be a happy camper!
I decided not to return the phone so I am stuck with this phone.
106IFA said:
I haven't been able to do this or find what it is you're referring to. I've tried adding a few values through Settings editor apps. Values such as "hw_networkmode_preference" etc.
Doesn't work.
But besides, why would setting the connection to LTE only fix this problem? I don't see how this is not a herring.
Most of the times I am see 2 bars of strength. Every now and then I get 3 bars, and more frequently than that I get only 1 bar. 4 bars is quite rare.
The real problem with this antenna is that if I step inside a supermarket or bathroom then my connection is gone. If I'm traveling around the state of NY, in more remote areas, I'm sure I will not have a chance of any connection.
I would LOVE this phone if it had a better antenna. I can deal with the subpar fingerprint reader. Just give me a strong antenna like all of my previous phones and then I'd be a happy camper!
I decided not to return the phone so I am stuck with this phone.
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Setting the band to lte only would help in better reception even at low signal strength. One thing I had noticed in lte band is its consistency in connection speeds and call quality even with low signal. I think this is because of the high bandwidth of the lte signals. But I'm not an expert in it. Try changing the band to lte only. It should work better.
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Try LTE only settings in settings>connections.
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Where did get this theme and icons in screen shots ?
Maystro said:
Where did get this theme and icons in screen shots ?
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Bodhosativa theme from xda apps section.
senseijtitus said:
Setting the band to lte only would help in better reception even at low signal strength. One thing I had noticed in lte band is its consistency in connection speeds and call quality even with low signal. I think this is because of the high bandwidth of the lte signals. But I'm not an expert in it. Try changing the band to lte only. It should work better.
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But I'm trying to get better signal, rather than better reception with low signal.
There's got to be something wrong with my phone. It blacks out if I step inside a bathroom in a building and such and it's very rarely at 4 bars.
A thing I noticed. If I go and select 2g/3g only (switch off 4g lte) my signal reception instantly switches to full (4 bars) Usually I get around 2 bars with LTE active.
The strange part is that even with lte off I can still receive an lte 4g signal when outside..this is perfect for me as it means i have a really strong signal (reception) indoors but still have the benefit of 4G outside. I don't quite understand it tbh. I mean i have switched to "2g/3g only" yet i still see 4G pop up in the status bar on my commute, and it definitely receiving 4G speeds. I'm not sure if it's a bug or not but I kinda like it.
Con500 said:
A thing I noticed. If I go and select 2g/3g only (switch off 4g lte) my signal reception instantly switches to full (4 bars) Usually I get around 2 bars with LTE active.
The strange part is that even with lte off I can still receive an lte 4g signal when outside..this is perfect for me as it means i have a really strong signal (reception) indoors but still have the benefit of 4G outside. I don't quite understand it tbh. I mean i have switched to "2g/3g only" yet i still see 4G pop up in the status bar on my commute, and it definitely receiving 4G speeds. I'm not sure if it's a bug or not but I kinda like it.
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That's a terrific idea. Thank you for bringing that up.
I am implementing your suggesteion and it's nice to see 3-4 bars of strength again.
I don't need the fastest data connection. I just need a strong or secure basic data connection, since most of the time I'm not doing anything data intensive with my phone anyway when I"m away from a wifi connection.
But I'm not sure if my phone hops up to LTE at anytime.. I wish had the same "bug" that you do. I just started testing with your settings so I'll see if I can get it so that 3g is the preferred and basic network and 4g is the optional...
After another day, I'm back to LTE/3g/2g auto.
The general reception even for 3g or 2g is lower overall than what I saw from every other phone I have used. So in areas where I can expect to have a relatively low signal I get a particularly low signal for all bands, 4g, 3g, and 2g. That being the case, there's no practical difference if I cap my connection or not.
Samsung better warranty this phone. Does anyone know who I should call?
Since I bought my phone through an Ebay seller and the phone is West Carribean stock, not USA stock, which is where I am, I have no warranty on this phone.

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