Will we ever have cameras with good quality? - Xiaomi Mi Max Questions & Answers

a question. We will never have a rom cooked for mi max with the correct drivers for the camera? now begin to cook the rom with android O and for when xiaomi release android nogout for the mi max, will have already abandoned the cooking for android nogout and so on. we can never install a rom cooked with good camera because the cameras are of very low quality because never wait for the release the drivers for start to cook new releases of android. This is a question Not a scolding. just in case.. sorry for my bad english

Don't know what you mean by correct drivers, but devs are just that, devs... not magicians. We can't make it up for the crappy hardware, nobody can...
And what is up with all those camera complaints!? It's not like you didn't know what you are buying when paing 1/3 the price of those so called flagship phones.
Look at the Max 2... Worst SoC, a litle bigger battery, better camera chip -> double price!!!
So my counter question to your question is what did you expect for the price you paid? DSLR-like camera?

nijel8 said:
Don't know what you mean by correct drivers, but devs are just that, devs... not magicians. We can't make it up for the crappy hardware, nobody can...
And what is up with all those camera complaints!? It's not like you didn't know what you are buying when paing 1/3 the price of those so called flagship phones.
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I say that the cooked ROMs always come with the generic driver because they are always with a version for which there is no official support. For example the mi max has not yet release its rom of android 7.0, therefore there are no drivers for the camera for the roms cooked in that version. And now when xiaomi release the rom with android 7.0 then the cooks will already have abandoned android 7.1 for android O and so on. Obviously you do not understand what you read. And you do not have to respond rudely.

elpanatibu said:
I say that the cooked ROMs always come with the generic driver because they are always with a version for which there is no official support. For example the mi max has not yet release its rom of android 7.0, therefore there are no drivers for the camera for the roms cooked in that version. And now when xiaomi release the rom with android 7.0 then the cooks will already have abandoned android 7.1 for android O and so on. Obviously you do not understand what you read. And you do not have to respond rudely.
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Ok, you got me. I guess you know how roms are cooked. My bad, I'll shut up now and never speak again about these stuff. Sorry
If you allow me before I go back in the hole I came from... Why stating facts is considered rude? Just curious... Happens often lately...

why is everyone so nasty on this site?

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Picture taken using Better Camera.
I feel the camera on Mi Max is doing good job for everyday life.

King_pig said:
Picture taken using Better Camera.
I feel the camera on Mi Max is doing good job for everyday life.
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I totally agree. And I think the HDR of the stock camera is actually pretty great.
That is until it comes to evening/night shots.....but hey, for the money it's still great!

I have said it before. For the price, the camera is good, especially in good light.

Best phone camera I have used is Nokia lumia 1020. I find the camera on my mi max is fine in decent light. If I need good photos I use a camera, anyone remember them?

elpanatibu said:
I say that the cooked ROMs always come with the generic driver because they are always with a version for which there is no official support. For example the mi max has not yet release its rom of android 7.0, therefore there are no drivers for the camera for the roms cooked in that version. And now when xiaomi release the rom with android 7.0 then the cooks will already have abandoned android 7.1 for android O and so on. Obviously you do not understand what you read. And you do not have to respond rudely.
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He wasn't being rude, he was just stating the facts. For a $300 device the camera is good for every day use. It may not be the best in low light but not many are in this price range. The camera seems the same to me in any ROM, I don't see a difference in the picture quality. The hardware just isn't as capable as a flagship phone and HDR really doesn't do much.

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Defy worth getting?

My mum currently has the Vodafone 845 which has a severely cracked screen. I've been looking around and the best phone I can see for what she is willing to pay is the Defy. I will be buying this from a parallel import store as it's ~$450 nzd vs $800 nzd from a normal retail store. What I want to know is whether or not it's worth getting a Defy now that the offical 2.2 Froyo rom has been released. I have flashed custom roms on my i9000 but not sure how difficult it would be to flash a custom rom on the Defy.
Any opinions would be much appreciated.
This isnt much of an answer but i love mine, some people say they are laggy but they must not have used a ZTE Blade, i could rip my hair out when i use my Blade.
get it ,you will not regret
The defy's hardware is great, but I personally don't really like the MOTOBLUR software. That's no big deal, since you can flash various custom ROMs. So I'd say the Defy is totally worth getting.
According to the GSMArena review the browser doesn't support text reflow. is this true?
You should definitely get it. It is my first smartphone and managed to flash ROM easily. This forum helps a lot. Currently running (and not lagging) CM7 by Quarx.
Don't waste your time, go for it!
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According to the GSMArena review the browser doesn't support text reflow. is this true?
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Easy. You can change your browser. I use Opera, but there's a lot more out there.
I hope you are aware of the Camera quality which isn't as good as a 5MP cam should be. Its pretty much useless in low light. Apart from this, Defy rocks!
It's awesome VFM and durable cell.
not sure how difficult it would be to flash a custom rom on the Defy
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Easy! you'll find lots of guides and tutorials, it was my first android cell and I was able to update to 2.2.2 Froyo(unofficial) the first day. Also, its dev team here @ xda is really working to bring latest updates to our device
I am a photographer and i would say the camera on my phone is perfectly acceptable for such a tiny sensor (pixel count has zero impact on image quality)
yeah, image quality depends on what type of lens you get (green - high compression, red - low compression, hence better quality, but the files are bigger). other than that, there's only one thing that bugs me, and it's the only two-finger multitouch support, but that was a problem only when i play tap tap revenge otherwise it's a great phone, best one in it's price range, and widely supported (many custom roms, easy to flash). so yeah, it's totally worth it!
Photo quality isn't too bad for cell phone
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Yes, camera's quality is not bad at all, i think this is the best phone with performance/price
Sorry for my bad english
wow, great pictures btw, what rom do you have on your DEFY? i don't think that my one takes such great pics!
Just good lighting, steady hand, and select the mode manually. Shooting close objects with Macro mode seems to have best quality.
Excellent camera work there.
Love my defy, just get it
defy is simply awesome. I love everything about it! Totally worth getting it! In day light the camera works perfectly fine!!
I love my DEFY!

Redmi note 5 pro Automatically updating

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My redmi note 5 pro was running on 9.2.4 (which is the most stable version in my opinion, u guys may have other opinions) . Yesterday n8, i put my phone on charging, when i checked today mrng, i found that, my redmi note 5 pro got updated to 9.2.13 automatically. I am 100% sure that i disabled automatic update in settings . Anyone know how does it happened?. My phone is connected to wifi network 24×7.
After that I again rolled back to 9.2.4, but again it's auto updating.
Anyone know, how to disable it??
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Everybody knows this such a bad manufacturer tendency to force auto updates on their devices. Im sure if many people asks Xiaomi about this, they will tell that this is a bug, but my opinion is that they did it purposely. And nothing we can do here.
My humble advice is to use latest version because its really better, many bugs fixed there.
d1g1m4n said:
Everybody knows this such a bad manufacturer tendency to force auto updates on their devices. Im sure if many people asks Xiaomi about this, they will tell that this is a bug, but my opinion is that they did it purposely. And nothing we can do here.
My humble advice is to use latest version because its really better, many bugs fixed there.
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If it was any other OEM, i would surely update my phone. But unfortunately it's xiomi. They will only release buggy updates.
For redmi note 5 pro Indian version , xiomi released more than 5 updates , none of them are bug Free (9.2.13 was somewhat bug free, but its not as good as 9.2.4)
One thing i noticed that, these automatic update was not taking place before 1 week. My phone was running on 9.2.4 for past 2-3 months without auto updates like these.
Update your phone to 9.5.19 and you wont regret it (most stable ROM with better battery life) and be happy that xiaomi is rolloing out software updates quickly
Yeah xiaomi seems to do at least some work with software, compared to other manufactorers
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Yeah xiaomi seems to do at least some work with software, compared to other manufactorers
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Absolutely true.
They are ruining there own image with these kind of buggy updates
As you may know android source code consists of many many lines of code, and it is only increasing. As you also may know, adding some features leads to increase in code lines, which may (and in long run will) introduce some bugs. This is a rule. (I am not talking about bricking, introduced by a reasoned decision of company, to force people have a latest software, to cut costs and ease being)
Debugging is a hard work, and needs resources. Different manufactorers apply different amounts of resources to debugging, and it is a big off topic subject.
Right now I can compare latest Sony phone with Xiaomi phone, and see that Xiaomi did a much bigger work in latest years with software than Sony, which stuck in 3 years old software.

Mi 8SE Kernel source code officially released!!!

Is time for cook to look in to this for Mi 8SE.
https://en.miui.com/thread-3538101-1-1.html
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/sirius-o-oss
i wish mi 8 had one also
20th June
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/mi-8se-kernel-sources-released-t3806746
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Is time for cook to look in to this for Mi 8SE.
https://en.miui.com/thread-3538101-1-1.html
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/sirius-o-oss
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Suxter said:
20th June
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/mi-8se-kernel-sources-released-t3806746
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Oops. Did not know it was an old news as the MIUI website thread was written few days before.
Since it was there for 2 months, how come no experience cook interested to build one or port other ROM for Mi 8SE?
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Oops. Did not know it was an old news as the MIUI website thread was written few days before.
Since it was there for 2 months, how come no experience cook interested to build one or port other ROM for Mi 8SE?
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Yea I also wonder... Its a pretty good phone ?
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Yea I also wonder... Its a pretty good phone ?
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Look like we had to wait for some time before it picked by an experience cook to produced any custom ROM for us.
Or maybe they are waiting for the Android pie source code before spark the stove?
Hmm...
What does this mean? Why is there no MI 8 custom ROMs yet? Am getting worried that this phone will have lack of support... did I mistakenly buy this device thinking there will be great support for Custom ROM?
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What does this mean? Why is there no MI 8 custom ROMs yet? Am getting worried that this phone will have lack of support... did I mistakenly buy this device thinking there will be great support for Custom ROM?
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I dont think mi 8 source code is out. Hopefully it comes out soon. I was hoping for a decent amount of third party roms and mods with this device. Going from a Oneplus device to xiaomi there is much less than the OP6 had in the first week of it coming out
Interesting.. The kernel source pointed out that this phone uses EAS instead of the archaic SMP. Battery life must be superb. Thinking to pick one up.
fzhadi said:
Interesting.. The kernel source pointed out that this phone uses EAS instead of the archaic SMP. Battery life must be superb. Thinking to pick one up.
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It definitely helps with the general smoothness, it's the qcom version of EAS which comes with SD710 if I'm not mistaken. Both the Mi 8 SE and Mi 8 have it so you can't do wrong with anyone of them and the SE is currently the absolute best at the sub-300 Euro price point.
What is the GPU frequency.?I think we can overclock both CPU and GPU.Qualcomm has undercloced the soc otherwise it will beat SD 835
I know I'm no dev but my take on future custom ROM is because pie have better support for notched screens and also current lineage os is not compatible with notched screens phones atm. I will stay patient for a pie release

Do you plan on getting the Mi Mix 4?

We don't know a lot about the Mi Mix 4 yet. We can assume it will have small bezels and some sort of pop-up/slider camera mechanism. The Mi Mix 3 had a slider, but it sounds like the Mi Mix 4 will have a pop-up camera. Assuming this is the case, do you plan on getting it?
There's really not a lot of information out there about the Mi Mix 4 yet. There have been some renders made based purely off speculation. It will most likely be a 5G device and feature the Snapdragon 855 or 855+. But the display size, cameras, RAM, battery, and more everything else is unknown. Are you thinking about getting it?
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Yes and I can't believe there haven't been any solids leaks yet.
Kinda excited that there hasn't been crazy leaks. I am buying it. Sold my one plus 7 pro to free some funds.
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Kinda excited that there hasn't been crazy leaks. I am buying it. Sold my one plus 7 pro to free some funds.
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Do you think its going to be a total beast and will you use MIUI or flash a custom rom ?
I always use miui I actually like it. Makes xiaomi my fav manufacturer. Yea they are always beasts. It'll either have 2 cameras or three. Probably 3. The 855+ 12GB ram biggest unless they do something stupid and have a 16gb version lmao. Big screen. 90hz. That's all I need honestly is miui at 90hz.
Fun fact you can overclock the k20 pros screen to 85hz
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Kinda excited that there hasn't been crazy leaks. I am buying it. Sold my one plus 7 pro to free some funds.
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same goes to me..cant belive there is no solid leaked so far..been waiting for mi mix 4 for ages..now im using mi 9T pro and i like it..but im still waiting for mi mix 4..i think i still need to wait coz everytime xiaomi device come out..there is no global rom for first release..so do need to wait..
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I always use miui I actually like it. Makes xiaomi my fav manufacturer. Yea they are always beasts. It'll either have 2 cameras or three. Probably 3. The 855+ 12GB ram biggest unless they do something stupid and have a 16gb version lmao. Big screen. 90hz. That's all I need honestly is miui at 90hz.
Fun fact you can overclock the k20 pros screen to 85hz
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So will it be Global Model upon release ?
The Price is totally out of reach and not really liking how it turned out to be honest, far too futuristic with that surround screen.
Possibly may wait for Xiaomi Mi 10 next March (if I can).
Well after months of being teased, I'm pretty disappointed. I was hoping Xiaomi would stay true to form and produce a flagship phone at a budget price but at ¥19,999 or £2257.00 or USD 2807.00 it's worth more than my car.
I don't really care about the display, although it is impressive, nor about the latest snapdragon processor or 5G.
I can't really see any devs buying it to develop custom roms or gcam.
Hopefully Xiaomi or Redmi will produce a budget phone with a 108mp camera I can afford.
I have to go now, so I can sulk.

Customs ROMs needed for black shark 3

Hi Developers, how are you doing ? I wish you can make ROMs for black shark phones, because the company has forgotten that they have a line called Black shark!
Joyui 11 MP3 is full of bugs and security patch is 05-06-2020!!
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Hi Developers, how are you doing ? I wish you can make ROMs for black shark phones, because the company has forgotten that they have a line called Black shark!
Joyui 11 MP3 is full of bugs and security patch is 05-06-2020!!
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They would love to but without the kernel source, it wont be possible.
Bs3 users need to unite and oblige Blackshark to released this expensive phone's kernel sources. Their firmwares are buggy, inconsistent OTA updates, outdated security patches. Seriously if Blackshark's Dev team CANT COMPLY to the user needs, they shouldn't consider releasing any phones at all. Or if they really decided to abandoned a device development after selling lots of units to the world, atleast leave your consumers with the kernel source so the community can make the best out of their crappy promises devices esp if its $500+ devices
This a a complete deception, greediness, lack of responsibility, false promises, all out lies to the consumers/world. I guess that's typically Chinese for you?
They should be sued because maybe they dont want you to change their phone's software maybe because it's their means of spying in your countries. They sold us the hardware and they want full control on the software level for those hardware switches which makes sense. It's like hitting 4 targets with just one stone which is very clever indeed. China prolly will rule the world in 10 years from now .
I regret buying this phone and when anyone ask me for recommendations, i will say "NEVER BUY A BLACKSHARK PHONE"
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It means the Joyui 12 global coming to Black Shark 3 next month. But I guess custom roms would be better! I wish we could had the kernel source !
one of my biggest mistake in 2020 was to buy this garbage phone, a $600 phone that can't even play netflix HD.
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one of my biggest mistake in 2020 was to buy this garbage phone, a $600 phone that can't even play netflix HD.
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Agreed. And no NFC, either. This probably isn't the worst phone I've ever owned, but it's not too far off, and it's not really an upgrade from my previous phone, the Mate 20X. This has at least as many software issues as that phone, but overall lower quality software and hardware, I'd say. It's a gimmick phone, not a great phone
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It means the Joyui 12 global coming to Black Shark 3 next month. But I guess custom roms would be better! I wish we could had the kernel source !
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Next month not coming bro
Support is dead

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