battery draining while power is off - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

when i power the phone off, it still drains. for example, I charge it to 100%, turn the power off and roughly 24 hours later, i turn it back on and it's down to 70%.
if i try an alternate method for powering off, it doesn't seem to drain. if I choose Boot to Recovery, then power down from TWRP....it doesn't seem to drain.
what is this phone doing? does the normal power down cause it to hibernate or something? any way to disable this?
currently i'm on paul pizz 6.01 rom. battery is brand new.
thanks

glhelinski said:
when i power the phone off, it still drains. for example, I charge it to 100%, turn the power off and roughly 24 hours later, i turn it back on and it's down to 70%.
if i try an alternate method for powering off, it doesn't seem to drain. if I choose Boot to Recovery, then power down from TWRP....it doesn't seem to drain.
what is this phone doing? does the normal power down cause it to hibernate or something? any way to disable this?
currently i'm on paul pizz 6.01 rom. battery is brand new.
thanks
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sounds like your batteries toasted. I had a bad one too. Mine would randomly reboot my phone at 50% unless i connected it to a charger. Ordered a new battery problem solved . Wasnt spendy 12 bucks plus shipping

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[Q] about my battery

ok so i got a problem with my battery
my battery on my phone just going out to fast
for example today
i connected it so it could reload and then
when i disconnected it was 100%
then after 2 hours only that i havnt use the phone i mean havnt touched it even once
i look again on battery life and here it says 36%
and it keep going every day
can some1 tell me why it keep happening???
WOW! That's a major drain in 2hours.
My 2 cents are on a defective battery - since the phone was on standby.
You can try some tutorials on adjusting the power saving settings (like screen brithgness what to turn off and not etc.)
Also you might try caibrate the battery.
there is a thing like u charge it to 100% ,unplug from the charger and turn the phone off ,then plug in again and charge to 100% again... there is a thread about it on this forum, do a lil search it might help u
Dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to battery and find partial wake usage, here the apps are listed that prevent the phone form sleeping and thus causing battery drain. Also check the % under Settings-about phone- battery usage to see what app or process consumed the most battery.
Does it get very hot? I mean - if the battery really contains 1500mAh (which I doubt in this case) and drains completely in 3 hours, that's 500mAh, so 3.5V*0,5A=1,75W continuesly.
You really should notice that while it's in your pocket...
no the phone isnt getting hot
i mean it can sit on my pocket for like 2-3 hours and then it suddenly 3x %
without even touching it
Try these steps:
1. Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged.
2. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.
3. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green.
4. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green.
5. Disconnect the phone, power it on (OPTIONAL: Enter Recovery at this point and Wipe Battery Stats (from Advanced menu), and use it. You need to use this sequence only once.
If that does not solve it you have a defective batterie.
ok i will try it
but can u tell me what the point???
i mean what does it do??
NoneSkillZ said:
ok i will try it
but can u tell me what the point???
i mean what does it do??
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The point of that, is to make the battery life longer. And actually it works. I tried when i bought my phone an the increase was significant!
Edit: Just saw in another thread that some newer custom ROMs has some things messed up, and they eat the battery more than normal when the screen is off. You might take a look at it.
yea i did all the steps and its not working
the battery still going down rapidly
so i should buy new one??
Yeah.
BTW, are you on a stock rom?
srry
no idea what stock rom means
but im on miui rom

[Q] Phone shuts off before battery is depleated even after calibration

OK so here is the deal.
I did the battery calibration of charging to 100 and then wipe the battery stats and then fully deplete. The following day I wanted to drain it even further down so after the phone hit zero and shut down. I then plugged it into a usb just long enough to get into recovery and then immediately unplugged it from the usb (10-15 seconds.) I just left it sitting there in recovery for AN HOUR before it shut off on it's own. I am wondering why there is that much power still left in the batteries and yet the phone still shuts down? Is there a reason the phone needs to keep that much of a reserve?
Thanks!
atomb said:
OK so here is the deal.
I did the battery calibration of charging to 100 and then wipe the battery stats and then fully deplete. The following day I wanted to drain it even further down so after the phone hit zero and shut down. I then plugged it into a usb just long enough to get into recovery and then immediately unplugged it from the usb (10-15 seconds.) I just left it sitting there in recovery for AN HOUR before it shut off on it's own. I am wondering why there is that much power still left in the batteries and yet the phone still shuts down? Is there a reason the phone needs to keep that much of a reserve?
Thanks!
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Well, draining a modern lithium ion battery completely is detrimental to it's lifespan, so... yes, there is a reason for the reserve.

[Q] Inc consumes battery when turned off

tldr: My Incredible drains battery when turned off :-/
I have an HTC Droid Incredible that I use for testing my developed apps, and for playing around with people's roms, and I have found an odd issue with it. I can charge up the battery and use it for hours and hours and it consumes what I would consider a normal amount of charge, but when I turn it off, it still consumes battery charge. I'll charge it to 100% and disconnect the charger, hold the power button and select Power Off, and when I turn it on the next day the battery is very depleted. Yesterday I did this, and this morning about 16 hours later, I turned it on to see a 23% charge. If I leave it for more than a couple days, it won't even turn on at all and I have to charge it again before I can do anything with it.
I've tested this over the past few weeks with two separate batteries (one used, one brand new), and the same thing happens with each battery. It's definitely the phone and not the battery, because I have taken the batteries out completely, waited a few days, and they stay near 100% charge.
Some history on this phone:
I got this phone from a friend in a semi-working state. I couldn't root, s-off, or really do anything with it, so I did a factory reset, messed with it for a while, and finally decided to follow the steps in this thread to "unlock,downgrade,and achieve s-off with htcDev". This has allowed me to mess with roms, etc, so I have installed a couple, and now have "inc-eng 4.1.1 RC2" installed from this thread, and this kernel: "[email protected] #64 Mon Sep 3 18:55:57 EDT 2012"
The issue at hand however was happening before I even had it in my hands, as my friend described the same thing happening to him (he did not mess with rooting, roms, etc).
BipolarMike said:
tldr: My Incredible drains battery when turned off :-/
I have an HTC Droid Incredible that I use for testing my developed apps, and for playing around with people's roms, and I have found an odd issue with it. I can charge up the battery and use it for hours and hours and it consumes what I would consider a normal amount of charge, but when I turn it off, it still consumes battery charge. I'll charge it to 100% and disconnect the charger, hold the power button and select Power Off, and when I turn it on the next day the battery is very depleted. Yesterday I did this, and this morning about 16 hours later, I turned it on to see a 23% charge. If I leave it for more than a couple days, it won't even turn on at all and I have to charge it again before I can do anything with it.
I've tested this over the past few weeks with two separate batteries (one used, one brand new), and the same thing happens with each battery. It's definitely the phone and not the battery, because I have taken the batteries out completely, waited a few days, and they stay near 100% charge.
Some history on this phone:
I got this phone from a friend in a semi-working state. I couldn't root, s-off, or really do anything with it, so I did a factory reset, messed with it for a while, and finally decided to follow the steps in this thread to "unlock,downgrade,and achieve s-off with htcDev". This has allowed me to mess with roms, etc, so I have installed a couple, and now have "inc-eng 4.1.1 RC2" installed from this thread, and this kernel: "[email protected] #64 Mon Sep 3 18:55:57 EDT 2012"
The issue at hand however was happening before I even had it in my hands, as my friend described the same thing happening to him (he did not mess with rooting, roms, etc).
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Maybe the battery is bad... take it out of the phone at 100 and leave it overnight and see what happens life wise
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zachf714 said:
Maybe the battery is bad... take it out of the phone at 100 and leave it overnight and see what happens life wise
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Thanks, but I did test that, with both of the batteries I have. I've left them for multiple days out of the phone, and when put back in they show 95-100%.
Maybe it's not turning off all the way.
Here's another test: turn it off, remove the battery for about a minute, then put the battery back in. Turn it on the next day and look at the battery level.
Might be a ROM issue. What ROMs have you tried this with? Have you tried stock sense and CM7?
Will do, I'll post tomorrow with my results.
If you have fastboot enabled then the phone is never really off. Try charging it then pull the battery, and put it back in the phone but leave it off. Turn it on latter and see if there was any battery loss. Fastboot is like hibernation. Its possible that some app is misbehaving and trying to sync or something while its hibernating, draining the battery.
Alrighty so yesterday I charged both batteries to 100%.
Battery A stayed out of the phone on my desk.
Battery B I removed from the phone, waited 10 seconds, and put back in the phone (I did not turn it on).
This morning, the phone (with Battery B in it) would not turn on until I charged it for a few minutes, and displayed 0% charge when it finally let me turn it on with the charger connected.
This is so weird...
Also, the rom I'm using doesn't have a fastboot option that I can find.
cmlusco said:
If you have fastboot enabled then the phone is never really off. Try charging it then pull the battery, and put it back in the phone but leave it off. Turn it on latter and see if there was any battery loss. Fastboot is like hibernation. Its possible that some app is misbehaving and trying to sync or something while its hibernating, draining the battery.
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Okay so Battery A I put into the phone at 4pm yesterday, turned it on and found it had a 73% charge. I then turned the phone off, waited a few minutes, put the battery in and left it on my desk. This morning 12 hours later, I turned it on and it has a 25% charge.
I'm so confused... if I don't turn the phone on, how are the batteries discharging? Both batteries keep their charge when left out of the phone for a prolonged period, but discharge when in a phone that hasn't been turned on. Bah! >_<
BipolarMike said:
Okay so Battery A I put into the phone at 4pm yesterday, turned it on and found it had a 73% charge. I then turned the phone off, waited a few minutes, put the battery in and left it on my desk. This morning 12 hours later, I turned it on and it has a 25% charge.
I'm so confused... if I don't turn the phone on, how are the batteries discharging? Both batteries keep their charge when left out of the phone for a prolonged period, but discharge when in a phone that hasn't been turned on. Bah! >_<
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Mabey there is a short in your phone somewhere. Does the battery last like normal when the phone is on, or does it also die quickly?
cmlusco said:
Mabey there is a short in your phone somewhere. Does the battery last like normal when the phone is on, or does it also die quickly?
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I'll have to test this when i get home, but I beleieve the battery discharges at a normal rate when the phone is on.
(this is not my normal phone, just one I use for testing apps, etc. so I don't use it on a regular basis)
I'll charge one of the batteries to 100% and leave it on overnight, and post my results.
BipolarMike said:
I'll have to test this when i get home, but I beleieve the battery discharges at a normal rate when the phone is on.
(this is not my normal phone, just one I use for testing apps, etc. so I don't use it on a regular basis)
I'll charge one of the batteries to 100% and leave it on overnight, and post my results.
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Okay I left my phone on for 18 hours in airplane mode, and it drained battery SLOWER than with the battery inserted into the phone and the phone never turned on.
So weird... I don't understand.
BipolarMike said:
Okay I left my phone on for 18 hours in airplane mode, and it drained battery SLOWER than with the battery inserted into the phone and the phone never turned on.
So weird... I don't understand.
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Very strange. I have no clue what would cause something like that.
cmlusco said:
Very strange. I have no clue what would cause something like that.
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Mine drains when all the way off 2 but not that bad... I think it may be the MotherBoard keeping power to the Nand memory so it dosen't relock and keeping power to the CPU so it can be quicker on bootup
zachf714 said:
Mine drains when all the way off 2 but not that bad... I think it may be the MotherBoard keeping power to the Nand memory so it dosen't relock and keeping power to the CPU so it can be quicker on bootup
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I'm assuming there's no way to stop it from doing this?
It's not a huge deal, as this is a test phone I use for development, but I may be eventually selling my test phones, so I try to keep them in good working order, or get them to a decent refurbished point Plus this is a weird enough phenomenon that I figured it deserved discussion.
BipolarMike said:
I'm assuming there's no way to stop it from doing this?
It's not a huge deal, as this is a test phone I use for development, but I may be eventually selling my test phones, so I try to keep them in good working order, or get them to a decent refurbished point Plus this is a weird enough phenomenon that I figured it deserved discussion.
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There maybe no stopping it I guess because mine does it 2 but not that fast..... Oh yeah an I think this is the 1 test phone you don't sell It has 2 many good devs

[Q] Excessive battery drain while completely powered off

I'm having a very interesting issue with my HTC One. When I power the phone completely off (ie: Hold power button, click power off), the battery still drains when left alone for a few hours. I'd except maybe a percentage or two drained when the phone first boots back up, but its kinda unacceptable that in ~12 hours the battery goes down 15+%!!
Last night, at 8:00PM EST, I turned off my One with a bit over 80% battery remaining. I even rebooted into recovery this time and hit power off to ensure that the phone wasn't doing some crazy deep-sleep hibernation junk. This morning, at 9:00AM I turned the phone back on and had 63% battery! About a 20% drain for 13 hours of completely powered-off sitting on a desk? I've attached a screenshot to further describe the issue. I'm at a loss for this one. With my usage, the phone honestly drains the same amount of power with the phone off than if I just left it on!
To add more confusion: When I first got the phone (Monday after the launch), I didn't have this problem. I'd turn the phone off with 100% once it was charged and 12 hours later turn it back on to 100%. A week or two into using the phone, I started seeing this. I thought it was something weird with Stock, and Googling suggested that the HTC One had some deep-sleep hibernation mode to make boots faster, but after installing CM10.2 I have the same issue. Even with powering the phone off from recovery!
Any ideas? Anyone else noticing this? Is my One defective? (I hope I don't need to send it back.......)
Rain724 said:
I'm having a very interesting issue with my HTC One. When I power the phone completely off (ie: Hold power button, click power off), the battery still drains when left alone for a few hours. I'd except maybe a percentage or two drained when the phone first boots back up, but its kinda unacceptable that in ~12 hours the battery goes down 15+%!!
Last night, at 8:00PM EST, I turned off my One with a bit over 80% battery remaining. I even rebooted into recovery this time and hit power off to ensure that the phone wasn't doing some crazy deep-sleep hibernation junk. This morning, at 9:00AM I turned the phone back on and had 63% battery! About a 20% drain for 13 hours of completely powered-off sitting on a desk? I've attached a screenshot to further describe the issue. I'm at a loss for this one. With my usage, the phone honestly drains the same amount of power with the phone off than if I just left it on!
To add more confusion: When I first got the phone (Monday after the launch), I didn't have this problem. I'd turn the phone off with 100% once it was charged and 12 hours later turn it back on to 100%. A week or two into using the phone, I started seeing this. I thought it was something weird with Stock, and Googling suggested that the HTC One had some deep-sleep hibernation mode to make boots faster, but after installing CM10.2 I have the same issue. Even with powering the phone off from recovery!
Any ideas? Anyone else noticing this? Is my One defective? (I hope I don't need to send it back.......)
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You have to go into settings>power and uncheck fast boot. With this check it kinda puts the phone into hibernation mode and it never totally turns off.
My solution above is for a Sense based ROM not sure what may be causing this running a CM based ROM. Kernel maybe????
mademan420 said:
You have to go into settings>power and uncheck fast boot. With this check it kinda puts the phone into hibernation mode and it never totally turns off.
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I did this while still on Stock; didn't change anything. Note that I'm now on CM10.2 where Fast Boot isn't a thing. Also, powering off from recovery should negate any hibernation, which I tried last night and still saw a 20% drain in 12 hours!
Rain724 said:
I did this while still on Stock; didn't change anything. Note that I'm now on CM10.2 where Fast Boot isn't a thing. Also, powering off from recovery should negate any hibernation, which I tried last night and still saw a 20% drain in 12 hours!
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CLUELESS I don't get that kinda drain with my phone being on and untouched. It may be a defective battery.
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CLUELESS I don't get that kinda drain with my phone being on and untouched. It may be a defective battery.
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That's what I'm thinking, although what is weird is that usually batteries are either defective on day 1, or degrade over time. It's weird that in the course of a week or two I went from a seemingly perfect battery (maintained charge while powered off) to a terrible battery.
To make matters weirder: I'd expect more than terrible battery life while the phone is on, although I'm not seeing anything excessively bad. This is going to be a nightmare trying to explain to VZ, especially because I can't just tell them I've diagnosed with CM10.2 and a custom recovery. What sucks the most is I'm (more than likely) going to get a "certified like-new" phone back... ugh...
Rain724 said:
That's what I'm thinking, although what is weird is that usually batteries are either defective on day 1, or degrade over time. It's weird that in the course of a week or two I went from a seemingly perfect battery (maintained charge while powered off) to a terrible battery.
To make matters weirder: I'd expect more than terrible battery life while the phone is on, although I'm not seeing anything excessively bad. This is going to be a nightmare trying to explain to VZ, especially because I can't just tell them I've diagnosed with CM10.2 and a custom recovery. What sucks the most is I'm (more than likely) going to get a "certified like-new" phone back... ugh...
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Yeah, I feel your pain GOOD LUCK:fingers-crossed:

P8000- Battery drain while phone is off.

Hello,
I received my gold p8000 three days ago. I noticed something very strange. The Battery drains when the phone is powered off.
If I fully charge my battery and then I turn the phone off (not standby, power off!), the battery drains overnight and the next morning I cannot power on the phone, I have to plug the adapter and wait ten minutes before the phone accepts to boot
I'm on stock rom 20150815 unrooted but it happens also on 20150725.
Did anyone also notice that?
No, that is strange. Is your phone getting hot while it's off. Sounds like it is not really "off"...
Sorry for the late reply, I've been very busy.
I've experimented about my issue and I found the cause. The phone was in fact very hot. It seems that the place where I hold my phone was too small and the power button was pressed down. It seems that pressing that button drains the battery pretty fast.
Thanks a lot.

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