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Which MI to get?

Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:

Mi5 has better camera for video (thanks to OIS) than Mi5s, otherwise they are very similar. Mi5 is longer out and thus has more chances for a custom rom. It does look like there will be some CM support (or whatever it is now called) for the Mi5s, there is one build here in the forum.
No idea about the 5s Plus.
Memory management is hard to say, but Android loves to have ram, so in general it's better to have more than less. Then again, this really depends on the ROM too.

domsch1988 said:
Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
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If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
Sent from my ZTE ZTE A2017G using XDA Labs

nelnel002 said:
If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
Sent from my ZTE ZTE A2017G using XDA Labs
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Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331

I'm with @dabyd64.
Mi5s has better construction than Mi5 (Aluminum vs Ceramic).
Mi5s is a little heavier (around 15g) and around 1mm bigger at 3 axis (difficult to tell a diference side by side).
Mi5s and Google Pixel have the same camera sensor, one of best as today.
Mi5s take better photos and regarding video Mi5s have EIS (at 1080) that is working better than Mi5 with OIS.
It could be better if Xiaomi invest on image processing algoritm like google did on pixel mobile.
Right now, Mi5 has better comunity support because was released first, more users, and kernel sources already released by Xiaomi.
I doubt Mi5s will have better support than Mi5, but i'm pretty sure we get the major roms.
Mi5 has infrared and could work as a remote control, this is the unique feature loss on Mi5s.
For me, Mi5s all the way. I would avoid Mi5s plus, if you really want a proper dual camera implementation -> Huawei P9.
We have to understand that a dual camera solution is all about image processing. For me, Xiaomi implementation was a failure.
If you need 5.5" screen size i would go for oneplus 3t.
Mi Note 2 has an oled 5.7" curved screen with te same 1080 resolution, so lower pixel density.
I really hate curved screens, and it's a pain to protect those devices.
It has a bigger battery, but generally bigger screen more consume, on the other hand oled consume less than lcd, you have to analyse sot.
200€ more relatively to 300€ it's significative, i would say put 200€ aside for a new one later on.

Not OP, but I would like to say thanks to @BPSoft and the other people who answered this question, as I'm in the same boat right now. Want to upgrade from my Mi4, and considering Mi5 and Mi5s. But the price is too close.
Do you think it is worth waiting for Mi5s price to drop a little bit more before buying? I am not very keen on using it with MIUI8 (jury's out for future MIUI 9), so I would be waiting for a custom ROM (CM, AOSP, ...). What do you think?

Custom, somewhat stable, ROM could be a way off for the Mi 5s, as the kernel source hasn't been released yet. At least there is a global rom now for the Mi 5s, but I'm not sure if that can be bought preinstalled. Not a big thing, but maybe waiting one more week (until CES is over) might mean a tiny bit lower prices.

Mi5s is at its lowest price ever, though (about 265€ for me). So many decisions... but I think i'll go for it.
Even if not preinstalled you can always unlock bootloader and install the global ROM, corect?

This is correct. Actually, if you run the official China build, you can simply download the Recovery Rom to the phone, open the Updater app, select the rom and it will flash it. No unlock needed. Works also with some, but not all, "shop roms" (globalized non official builds).

I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.

domsch1988 said:
Currently the axon 7 is an option too.
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For a 5.5" screen size, i prefer Oneplus 3T, huge support here at XDA, 6GB Ram, SD821 instead of SD820, 64/128GB internal space, but without sd card support.
See here for a comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
Regarding photo quality:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
As you can see 20Mpx says nothing about picture quality :cyclops:
domsch1988 said:
But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm more optimistic, i expect "Mi6" release at March, like it was with Mi5. SD835 is expected. If i could, i would wait!

dabyd64 said:
Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
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So it depends if you want OIS or faster capture. For my opinion cm development to mi5s Will take some time, soon we will have the mi6, so that's always the same thing , when we have some development there's another upgraded device that came out. We'll stay stock whit MIUI .
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domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I have axon 7 too and it's my daily driver, that's another league. QHD AMOLED,3250mah battery, not stock but almost whit some nice features, stereo speakers whit Dolby Atmos, nice camera I would say a little better than op3. nice materials and naugat to the end of January.
Sent from my ZTE ZTE A2017G using XDA Labs

What I really liked is the screen / size ratio, I think it's one of the 'smaller' phones which still has really good specs, decent screen and of course dual sim.

domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm going to do the exact same, wait for SD835 and if i don't think it's worth it ill buy a cheaper mi5s

Redmi Note 5 compared to Redmi Note 3

Hi everyone,
my Oneplus 3 is history as of yesterday. I really liked it for the past years, but now I need something new.
My priorities have somewhat shifted so tge Oneplus 6 is just to expensive imho atm.
I had a Redmi Note 3 these past years as a backup phone and besides a few flaws it performed well enough.
Therefore I'd be thankful if some of you can shed light on a few things which may have changed with the Redmi Note 5.
- the Redmi Note 3 tends to get quite warm, especially in summer when you're outside. That just doesn't feel safe for the device. How are temps on the Note 5?
- the wifi has always been a thing on my Note 3, I have way worse wifi than with my Oneplus 3 or anyone else for thst matter. Has wifi reception gotten better?
- I can't stand Miui, I'm a stock Android guy. I need a stable, daily driver rom with a Vanilla Android look that comes with ota updates. How are we doing with this on the Note 5? Official Lineage coming?
Anything else that might help my decision making or would be good to know?
Greets & thanks in advance!

5 Doesnt heat much,
Never had a prob with wifi
Go for AOSIP very stable and snappy

-Zeppelin- said:
Hi everyone,
my Oneplus 3 is history as of yesterday. I really liked it for the past years, but now I need something new.
My priorities have somewhat shifted so tge Oneplus 6 is just to expensive imho atm.
I had a Redmi Note 3 these past years as a backup phone and besides a few flaws it performed well enough.
Therefore I'd be thankful if some of you can shed light on a few things which may have changed with the Redmi Note 5.
- the Redmi Note 3 tends to get quite warm, especially in summer when you're outside. That just doesn't feel safe for the device. How are temps on the Note 5?
- the wifi has always been a thing on my Note 3, I have way worse wifi than with my Oneplus 3 or anyone else for thst matter. Has wifi reception gotten better?
- I can't stand Miui, I'm a stock Android guy. I need a stable, daily driver rom with a Vanilla Android look that comes with ota updates. How are we doing with this on the Note 5? Official Lineage coming?
Anything else that might help my decision making or would be good to know?
Greets & thanks in advance!
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I loved my Kenzo, was my first Xiaomi phone.
I find that this one heats up less than the Note 3 did, which would make sense, especially given the 28nm SOC that the Note 3 did.
Wifi is pretty good on this one, I don't have any complaints.
Plenty of options for custom roms, given that you can also use Treble based rom's as well.

goofball2k said:
I find that this one heats up less than the Note 5 did, which would make sense, especially given the 28nm SOC that the Note 3 did.
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Wtf are you trying to pull off here?

Blowolf said:
Wtf are you trying to pull off here?
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I think, in the first line he mis-wrote note 5.

So it seems the Note 5 would be a good option for me...
What are your major downsides so far?

-Zeppelin- said:
What are your major downsides so far?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...warning-update-to-recent-miui-builds-t3814895
Only this comes to mind.

Blowolf said:
Wtf are you trying to pull off here?
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Wow, don't blow up the internet because of a typo.
I meant to write Note 3 Pro.

it's a good upgrade from RN3Pro, much stable, good battery life. This phone only gets warm if you play some games that stress the gpu.
It's not hot if you use it under the sunlight for hours, not like the RN3Pro.
it's a budget phone after all, don't expect the quality as high as the flagship one does. But for the phone in this price range, I don't think twice to buy this phone haha

-Zeppelin- said:
Hi everyone,
my Oneplus 3 is history as of yesterday. I really liked it for the past years, but now I need something new.
My priorities have somewhat shifted so tge Oneplus 6 is just to expensive imho atm.
I had a Redmi Note 3 these past years as a backup phone and besides a few flaws it performed well enough.
Therefore I'd be thankful if some of you can shed light on a few things which may have changed with the Redmi Note 5.
- the Redmi Note 3 tends to get quite warm, especially in summer when you're outside. That just doesn't feel safe for the device. How are temps on the Note 5?
- the wifi has always been a thing on my Note 3, I have way worse wifi than with my Oneplus 3 or anyone else for thst matter. Has wifi reception gotten better?
- I can't stand Miui, I'm a stock Android guy. I need a stable, daily driver rom with a Vanilla Android look that comes with ota updates. How are we doing with this on the Note 5? Official Lineage coming?
Anything else that might help my decision making or would be good to know?
Greets & thanks in advance!
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A good suggestion from me.
Unlock bootloader of your kenzo, install twrp and flash miui 9 8.4.12 or 8.4.26 port by orochi with agni kernel 12.2. Then your kenzo will never heat and will work very well. No issues in these ROMS. These are the best ROMS I have tried and I am still using the 8.4.26 port by orochi.
You will fall in love again with kenzo.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using XDA Labs

Probably, but I just can't work with Miui. I need a Vanilla Android Rom. It's not that Miui doesn't look & work good, but I'm so used to Vanilla, I just can't adjust.
But thanks for the tip anyway!

I've been using a Oneplus 5T lately and bought a Note 5 "for fun". With Miui its kind laggy but gestures are pretty good.
Using RR on Note 5 now and it's quite OK, not as snappy as Oneplus 5T but fast enough, only gesture navigation is not really good (bad detection).
Happened when I had Redmi Note 3 Pro and is happening again, imho no point to spend more than what you spend for a Note 5 really (thinking my Oneplus 5T costed almost 3 times as much...).

RR = Resurrection?
I won't use gestures (besides quick pulldown & apo drawer opening), so I guess I'm fine there.
Honestly what could get annoying is the camera. But then again, the OP3s camera was rubbish aswell.

-Zeppelin- said:
So it seems the Note 5 would be a good option for me...
What are your major downsides so far?
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Definitely. I changed from RN3Pro to RN5 and I'm happy. I haven't feeled any urge to go custom yet (1-2 months since i got the phone). The only downside is you have to be carefull with updates, because Xiaomi has implemented anti rollback feature without warning people. Also camera still needs some fixes. But I'm happy i got RN5

Interested to hear more people's opinions. I'm still using my RN3P that I've had for over 2 years now. The only thing I'm really looking for from the RN5 is an improved camera. I replaced the battery about 5 months ago and am able to still get 8-11 hours SOT with it. Love this damn phone so much.
Placed my 4/64 global RN5 order a few days ago. Can't wait. Hope it is a worthy upgrade to trusty Kenzo.

To buy or not...

It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?

Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.

winesh said:
It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?
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Yes, absolutely. I'm looking forward to purchase the 128gb varient. I LOVE compact phones, especially the ones with flagship spec i.e. Sony. But I'm definitely getting the Mi 9 SE.

Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....

It depends on what is important for you. I am planning to buy too, after I have seen some reviews and possibly if I see some development activity here.
The reasons I would buy this phone are: small size, amoled screen, quite decent chipset and nfc.
I would personally not buy the galaxy s10e because of the high price and the lack of developement I have seen with their previous phones.

kagazushi said:
Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....
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After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!

keeeper said:
Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.
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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?

WhatzIt2Ya said:
After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!
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Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)

Trunksleo said:
How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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I just watched a couple of reviews and forum posts so mine is not a "direct" opinion, anyway
About photos, they are very good. They are not great, as well as big brother Mi 9, probably that's due to the software: AI and drivers are still not perfectly calibrated on Sony IMX586. It looks like worst than Mi 8, even if on paper Mi9/Mi9SE should have a better sensor.
About battery, it's enough! If you use dark theme, you can reach 6 hours of display on. Recently Xiaomi released DC function for Mi 9 , maybe we will see the same for Mi 9 SE because both have AMOLED display, which can benefit of this DC function.
If battery sometime isn't enough, QC @ 18W can pump in a few minutes the energy you need to reach late night.

Trunksleo said:
How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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Photos during daylight are great, just as you wish them to be. Every lens is doing it's job well - you can get a nice close up photo with zoom, wide angle lens proved to be useful as well, bokeh is nice (but it used to be so even on Mi 6). I am a little disappointed with night mode though - before I was playing with it on Mix 3 and there the results looked like magic, here are mediocre. It looks like the algorithm is only increasing the general brightness of the photo without recognizing the difference between stuff which should be visible and that is supposed to remain dark. The effect is obviously worse than on Mi 9 (basing on the reviews).
The battery is sufficient. Mi 9 SE as a smaller size phone is not bought for gaming therefore for any other activity can be used quite long. E.g. I've got over 14 hours of continuous movie play (MX Player HW+) and 25 hours when left as a clock (Big Clock app on Google Play). When you're not using the phone the battery drain is about 1% per hour with Ambient Display on.

kagazushi said:
Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)
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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.

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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan

kagazushi said:
Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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Nah, the only reason why switched to custom for a while is because the wifi problem, everyone is facing this issue. It's disconnects won't won't connect back, and 5ghz wifi speed is very poor.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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I want the mi 9 se as a replacement device. I finally want a premium (cut down) flagship phone, and hopefully will last for about 4 years or more.

Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.

winesh said:
Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.
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Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.

Rdavis27 said:
Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.
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It is also listed on geekbuying for buying, not only for preorder.
6/64 edition for about 330€ after using coupons seems to be quite a good deal.

Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.

Flounderist said:
Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.
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Miui and oem updates aren't the issue for me.

Ok, so to summerize:
- Small from factor
- Amoled screen
- Indisplay fingerprint
- 4G b20 and b28
- Widevine L1
- 6Gb RAM
A part for the CPU power, it is even more interesting for me than s10e, and for half the price.
So I definetly swap my OnePlus 6 for this device. The last question is where should we buy it to be sure we have the global version?
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.

kagazushi said:
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.
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I would reccomend honorbuy because of european stock and no VAT on delivery (if you are based in Europe).
Devices are shipped with european socket charger.
If you buy on Aliexpress you must check any custom duty that would be added to the shipment in your country.

Is mi a2 lite the right phone for me?

Hi all.
I have to buy a new phone and I'm considering the mi a2 lite.
I want a phone that isn't as big as the most of the other phones and that is cheap (around 150 €).
I want to use a custom rom with privacy guard tool and that will support the phone for few years.
For example the rom resurrection remix, why the thread in the forum is closed? Is the mi a2 lite still supported by resurrection remix?
Should I buy the mi a2 lite or there is a better choice?
Thanks.

The phone its a great option if you dont want a good camera for night...
RR its supported official, https://get.resurrectionremix.com/?dir=daisy
I dont know why is the thread closed...
Mi a2 is a better option... but more cost

It's good but not the best.
You will get a big battery, decent camera and screen, but software I think it's the worst.
Android One sucks, try to get a device with MIUI

Thanks for the replies!
leechgid said:
The phone its a great option if you dont want a good camera for night...
RR its supported official, https://get.resurrectionremix.com/?dir=daisy
I dont know why is the thread closed...
Mi a2 is a better option... but more cost
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On Amazon there are the a2 and the a2 lite at the same price now.
The problem is that the a2 is bigger than the a2 lite and I don't like big phones:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/xiaomi-mi-a2-64gb,xiaomi-mi-a2-lite-4gb-64gb#design
In your experience, if the device is officially supported by resurrection remix, will I have the phone supported for at leas two years?
Zodui said:
It's good but not the best.
You will get a big battery, decent camera and screen, but software I think it's the worst.
Android One sucks, try to get a device with MIUI
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Are these considerations valid if I install resurrection remix rom?
The only things that I need are the small dimensions of the phone and the official support by a rom with privacy guard tool.

This phone is part of the AndroidOne program which means "timely" (!) security updates and 2 years of feature updates, so it is going to get Android Q. Some things you need to know:
-I think at this point Xiaomi, doesn't give a flying f*** about their AndroidOne devices. You will get the monthly updates at the end of the month and it will be nothing but a security patch, no bug fixes what so ever. Current stock Android Pie has many bugs, but Xiaomi doesn't seem to address those issues. Stock firmware is usable but they broke Cam2API functionality on Pie, so for now I'm using rooted stock Oreo ROM, which is stable enough and with some modules gives me about 11h of SoT.
-Fingerprint sensor is a bit slower than my old Huawei P8 Lite 2017, but it's okay.
-Back camera is great in good lighting, but any absence of light then boom, your camera sucks now. Best option is to enable Cam2API manually (although the phone supports it, Xiaomi doesn't enable it on their AndroidOne devices lol - MIUI has it enabled though, AFAIK) and install Gcam, then the phone shoots great pictures, whether in bad or good lighting. Front camera sucks hard without Gcam.
-I haven't faced any slowdown issues (except on Pie, again), phone is buttery smooth and mine has 4 GB of RAM, RAM management is OK too.
-Current custom Pie roms don't have Gcam support as of now, as soon as they get it, I'm jumping on the custom ROM train.
-You'll probably be satisfied with the battery life.
-Speaker quality and loudness is amazing, headphone quality is also great. (I stopped using Viper4Android on this phone, because sound quality satisfies me as it is)
-One chronic issue you need to take note is that when charging the phone, touchscreen is irresponsive. It fails to register your touches many times you use it while charging, if you're planning to use it on charge, this is not the phone for you. Hell, none of the phones are for you because phones shouldn't be used while charging IMO.
-Build quality is great, I was afraid I was gonna get a cheap looking and feeling product hence the price. But it provides that good quality feel. (only downside being Micro-USB)
This phone is great for a budget. If you're planning to use it with custom ROMs, you're gonna get much more from the device and it will make you happy. Hope I was helpful.

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Thaks for your reply marstonpear.
There are some defects, but if I have understand correctly, you are satisfied with this phone.
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-One chronic issue you need to take note is that when charging the phone, touchscreen is irresponsive. It fails to register your touches many times you use it while charging, if you're planning to use it on charge, this is not the phone for you. Hell, none of the phones are for you because phones shouldn't be used while charging IMO.
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I read that this problem is not present in all the phones and can be caused by the screen protector: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/help/keyboard-lags-horribly-charge-phone-t3886508
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I don't know since I can't install twrp in my Mi A2 Lite.
But you can get a good experience if you install some custom ROMs, but there are some bugs but if you don't mind that so its ok.
I had a Asus device (Zenfone GO) and the software was just terrible too, but I installed twrp and installed rr with Android 5.1 at the time, and I got a good experience even though it's a bad device with weak performance.
But if you can install TWRP so do it, install a custom ROM in it
You are buying a Android One device with advantage of 24 monthly updates, so think again before rooting it and install custom ROM and blah blah blah...
I'll wait for Android Q. But the software isn't that bad, it's just a little buggy and clean.
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I'm thinking to use a custom rom because I want to use the lineage's privacy guard tool, that is present in resurrection remix rom.
I know that install a custom rom on a new phone with official updates is not a very good idea, but I haven't found another phone with dimensions and price similar to this.
Do you know a better alternative?
Can I use the encryption with a custom rom?

Planning to Buy OnePlus 5t in 2019?

Hello guys
Sorry for the long question.
I am very confused these days, i sold Redmi Note 7 some days ago but now i don't understand that what device is perfect for me in my low budget. I have some devices in my mind:
1. Pocophone F1
2. Realme 3 Pro
3. OnePlus 5T
What i need:
I really like to install different roms on my deivce, occasionally gaming and most of the time watching movies etc.
Why i am not able to decide ?
1. Pocophone F1
Big notch taking over 70% of status bar. Heard / saw different threads claiming that the devices has touch screen / hardware issues.
2. Realme 3 Pro
Realme 5 Pro also available around the world but not in Pakistan. In Pakistan only option so far is Realme 3 Pro. Overall phone seems to be a good deal. But there is no Android development.
3. OnePlus 5T
This device is my most favorite device. Do you guys recommend me to buy 5T in 2019? and i also want to now, that is there any common hardware related issues to check for before buying?
Looking for response from you guys.

Plenty of ROM support and easy methodology to tamper, if you aren't a fan of OOS which is quite good anyway. Updates are still being released quite frequently through the beta.
Bought mine on release, coming up on 2 years ago now. Only complaints I have hardware wise:
-charging port can be finicky, but I need to clean it.
-camera is very average (but GCam mod with root + camera library dot fix performs very well)
I don't see myself getting a different phone for at LEAST another year and a bit. Take of that what you will.

I bought oneplus 5t 2 weeks a ago and i would say buy the damn phone you won't regret it, previously i was using samsung a50 but was not satisfied with the performance, oneplus 5t is blazing fast, go for it

Good phone but two things that suck
Vibration motor is horrible. It's so weak that I can't even hear it most of the time
Camera quality out of the box is just average
This two things didn't seem to be important to me in the past but you do notice the difference after using the phone for 2 years

In my opinion 5T is still beast but official beta support had dropped
Not that much custom ROMs available (many maintainers and developers switched to op6 or higher models)
Better try to buy op6or6T

Although open beta has been stripped for the 5t I'm still more than happy with my 5t. I even prefer OOS over the custom ROMs because it's really fast, stable and the gesture control kicks ass and is way better than that Google thing. Plus have in mind that OP already confirmed Android q. It may take a while but for now OP is still going strong with security patches. As long the battery is fine so am I.

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The Pocophone has larger battery and an IR scanner which is amazing for face recognition. But the screen is not good as 5T's.
Oxygen OS is probably the best out there. It is light and so fast and allows so many customizations. I bet you won't be bothered with custom ROMs!
Snapdragons 835 and 845 don't differ much either.
I'd go for the 5T if I found both at similar price.