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Greetings,
Trying to find the charging time for the pixel c. Does it ship with the 60W type C charger on the google store? Or the 15 or the 22.5?
Whether it ships with 60W, will it charge at 60W?
34.2 WHr battery would be topped off in a half hour or so at 60W, just looking for any details those with the devices have. Not specifically interested in the generic amazon charger discussion just yet
In germany it gets shipped with the 15W one (5V at 3A) and it takes ages...but as I wanted to get some more external stuff, no harm done.
pixel c can use a USB PD charger (like the chromebook pixel charger) to charge faster at 24W (12V @ 2A). The only other USB PD charger I know of is the MacBook charger (29W), but not sure if it will fast charge the Pixel C as it uses non-standard profiles and I haven't been able to determine if it will also support standard PD profiles. I'm pretty sure it will charge the Pixel, but maybe not at the 24W speed.
This is the one I was curious about https://store.google.com/product/universal_type_c_60w_charger
Of course it states a lot of compatibility, but I can't quite figure out where it is intended to be used. If only the Chromebook Pixel uses 60W or if any of the other stuff like the Pixel C can go higher. Thanks for any advice
Even 15W should get the job done in a couple hours
The Pixel C help forum says "Charge the battery on your Pixel C by plugging a power adapter into the USB Type-C port on the left side of the tablet. We recommend using the charger that came with your Pixel C."
As the device comes with the 15w charger, this takes about 3.5 hours
I can't find any information on which Power Delivery Profiles it supports, I asked Google support if it will use anything other than Profile 1.
Google engineer Benson Leung has stated that with the 60w charger the pixel c will negotiate to a 12v, 2a charging speed
skally said:
The Pixel C help forum says "Charge the battery on your Pixel C by plugging a power adapter into the USB Type-C port on the left side of the tablet. We recommend using the charger that came with your Pixel C."
As the device comes with the 15w charger, this takes about 3.5 hours
I can't find any information on which Power Delivery Profiles it supports, I asked Google support if it will use anything other than Profile 1.
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That's odd, 15W for 3.5 hours should charge a 52.5 Whr battery, but the c battery is smaller. At least the 60W charger will go to 24W, which should get the job done in less than two hours
darker_slayer said:
That's odd, 15W for 3.5 hours should charge a 52.5 Whr battery, but the c battery is smaller. At least the 60W charger will go to 24W, which should get the job done in less than two hours
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From my testing, I see the charge cycle current skipping around as low as 1.8A and no higher than 2.8A, averaging at 2.2A. it could be the application, but this falls in line with my observed charge times.
Compared to my Nexus 6P which shows more stable current draw at ~2.8A to 3A.
I'd be interested to find what others are seeing for comparison
Benson Leung said Google Pixel/Pixel XL Use USB Power Delivery up to 18W, do not support Qualcomm QC, I wonder what kind of adapter the two phones use. I used a 5v/3a USB C charger and USB C - C cable with my Nexus 6P. Does this adapter and cable work on Google Pixel/Pixel XL?
Will it work? Sure.
Is it the optimal option? No.
Thank you @testinguser. Can't wait to get the phone.
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Will it work? Sure.
Is it the optimal option? No.
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Umm... USB Type C will charge at 3A, no?
Shouldn't it be 5V/3A for the Pixel / Pixel XL also?
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SNH48 said:
Benson Leung said Google Pixel/Pixel XL Use USB Power Delivery up to 18W, do not support Qualcomm QC, I wonder what kind of adapter the two phones use. I used a 5v/3a USB C charger and USB C - C cable with my Nexus 6P. Does this adapter and cable work on Google Pixel/Pixel XL?
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Absolutely, USB C is designed to negotiate with the charger how much juice is sent. the pixel works at 5V 3A (15W) and up to 9V 2A (18W), Basically if the plug fits it'll get some sort of charge. There are loads of USB C chargers with PD, the spec goes up to 100W and any charger will provide any device with the maximum it or the device can handle (So a 100W charger will give 18W to the pixel and the Pixels 18W charger will give 18W to a laptop for example)
If you have a true USB-C 5V/3A charger now, it will work fine, but as stated it is not the BEST option. 5V/3A = 15W.
If you buy a USB-PD (Power Delivery) type C charger, it has the capability to charge the Pixel at 9V/2A = 18W, so a 20% faster charge... in a perfect world, instead of 0-50% power in 30 minutes, you'd get 0-50% in 24 minutes. BUT, we don't know how long the phone will charge at 18W. Hopefully to 50%, but it has to cut down current eventually just like all QC chargers, or else it'd damage the battery.
The charger included in the box is USB-PD compliant.
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If you have a true USB-C 5V/3A charger now, it will work fine, but as stated it is not the BEST option. 5V/3A = 15W.
If you buy a USB-PD (Power Delivery) type C charger, it has the capability to charge the Pixel at 9V/2A = 18W, so a 20% faster charge... in a perfect world, instead of 0-50% power in 30 minutes, you'd get 0-50% in 24 minutes. BUT, we don't know how long the phone will charge at 18W. Hopefully to 50%, but it has to cut down current eventually just like all QC chargers, or else it'd damage the battery.
The charger included in the box is USB-PD compliant.
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Great info. Now I wonder if the Tronsmart W2PTE will charge at 9V/2A...
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
USB C port output:3.6V-6.5V/3.0A,6.5V-9V/2.0A,9V-12V/1.5A(MAX)
USB A port outpout:5V/2.4A(MAX)
Technically it has the ability to, but I wonder if it can.
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Great info. Now I wonder if the Tronsmart W2PTE will charge at 9V/2A...
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
USB C port output:3.6V-6.5V/3.0A,6.5V-9V/2.0A,9V-12V/1.5A(MAX)
USB A port outpout:5V/2.4A(MAX)
Technically it has the ability to, but I wonder if it can.
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My guess is no because that is relying on a QuickCharge handshake to occur between the device and charger. Pixels will use USB Power Delivery which is an entirely different specification. It'd be great if it does, but I highly doubt it.
It seems even the ones on Amazon that are PD units all are either 15w (5x3) or have the 9x2 spec but don't actually show it as addressable in handshake.
I just want to give someone my money and I am getting upset that I don't have anyone to give it to...
@bigblueshock It seems Tronsmart W2PTE not a 9v/2a PD charger, I saw Choetech has a 29w USB C PD charger
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-CHOETECH-Power-Delivery-MacBook/dp/B01HZ61WWQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475906398&sr=8-1&keywords=choetech+29W+PD+charger
Specification:
Input: 100V-240V AC 50/60Hz 0.7A
Output: 5V3A/9V2A/14.5V2A
I may try this one
Great Phone, I am thinking to buy it.
uhh, QC3 supports both 5v3a and 9v2a. I use my QC3 charger with my Pixel C and it rapid charges.
The same will most likely be true for the pixel phones
I think it still doesn't work because the difference is in the protocol for handshake, not a limitation in the ranges of current.
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Wouldn't it be nice if the phone could say what it was receiving and how it had negotiated? I've accumulated quite a few mains chargers, power banks and cigarette lighter adapters.
A QC2.0 PSU makes my Pixel XL say charging rapidly, but it doesn't say how rapid. Another mains charger said charging slowly, which was odd (you'd expect that from an unpowered USB hub) and others just say Charging.
How are you supposed to know what's what? The supplied PSU says Charging Rapidly, but clearly it's more rapid.
Even just putting it as an option in the developer menu would be good enough. It would then enable me to check all my various adapters and establish what does what.
Wouldn't it have been nice to just have one standard?!
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Wouldn't it be nice if the phone could say what it was receiving and how it had negotiated? I've accumulated quite a few mains chargers, power banks and cigarette lighter adapters.
A QC2.0 PSU makes my Pixel XL say charging rapidly, but it doesn't say how rapid. Another mains charger said charging slowly, which was odd (you'd expect that from an unpowered USB hub) and others just say Charging.
How are you supposed to know what's what? The supplied PSU says Charging Rapidly, but clearly it's more rapid.
Even just putting it as an option in the developer menu would be good enough. It would then enable me to check all my various adapters and establish what does what.
Wouldn't it have been nice to just have one standard?!
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There are special USB adapters that you plug between phone and charger that will tell you what it's using and what the voltage and amps are.
I'm seeing unexplainable results, like faster charging from my old Motorola Nexus 6 Turbo Charger than with the included Pixel charger....
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alexjzim said:
uhh, QC3 supports both 5v3a and 9v2a. I use my QC3 charger with my Pixel C and it rapid charges.
The same will most likely be true for the pixel phones
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I can second this. Plugging it in to a QC3.0 type C charger (like the HTC 10 has) displays a "charging rapidly" notifier on the lockscreen.
robstunner said:
I can second this. Plugging it in to a QC3.0 type C charger (like the HTC 10 has) displays a "charging rapidly" notifier on the lockscreen.
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But that doesn't actually MEAN anything. I had a bad car charger that would overheat easily over time. My Nexus 6P would say "charging rapidly" and Ampere would show 100mAh, charge completion time was over 3 hours, etc.
Google designed the phone for USB-PD, nothing else. QC 3.0 does work with this phone. Unless someone uses a USB power meter and posts solid numbers like mentioned in a previous post, people need to stop posting this ****.
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But that doesn't actually MEAN anything. I had a bad car charger that would overheat easily over time. My Nexus 6P would say "charging rapidly" and Ampere would show 100mAh, charge completion time was over 3 hours, etc.
Google designed the phone for USB-PD, nothing else. QC 3.0 does work with this phone. Unless someone uses a USB power meter and posts solid numbers like mentioned in a previous post, people need to stop posting this ****.
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I'll try it tonight with ampere. I remember seeing 1100mah, which isn't much but I'll report back.
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Every charger i use chargers my pixel xl super slow. I've used the note 7 oem charger, choetech fast charger, aukey fast charger, etc. The only fast charging i can get it with the pixel charger. Anyone else dealing with this?
TechBSwift said:
Every charger i use chargers my pixel xl super slow. I've used the note 7 oem charger, choetech fast charger, aukey fast charger, etc. The only fast charging i can get it with the pixel charger. Anyone else dealing with this?
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From what I've heard neither the Pixel nor Pixel XL support quickcharge or adaptive fast charging. They use something called USB POWER DELIVERY for fast charging, this is the technology that allows generic USB-C chargers to output 100W of power when charging USB-C compatible devices like the new macbook pros or the Chromebook Pixel. So unless u use another charger that support USB power delivery you shouldn't be able to fast charge your Pixel phone.
It has been hit or miss for me. If I use an adaptive fast charger that came with a note7/s7edge I will always get the charging rapidly indicator but charging can be dreadfully slow to somewhat quick.
I am assuming your device will show "charging rapidly" with the Samsung chargers?
To fast charge with the pixel or Nexus phones it has to be a USB c to USB c cable with the adapter being a USB c one. Not USB c to a.
I get rapid charging from my Nexus 6 charger and a USB A to USB C cable. I don't believe it's as fast as the Pixel charger, but it works well enough.
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TechBSwift said:
Every charger i use chargers my pixel xl super slow. I've used the note 7 oem charger, choetech fast charger, aukey fast charger, etc. The only fast charging i can get it with the pixel charger. Anyone else dealing with this?
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As others have stated, the Pixel uses USB TYPE C specification with Power Delivery. It does not and is not compatible with any other type of proprietary fast, quick, rapid charging methods.
You should be able to get 5v 2.4A using the Pixel's cable or any proper cable A to C cable with the proper 56k ohm resister
This is a good thread to look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/chargers-t3476073 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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As others have stated, the Pixel uses USB TYPE C specification with Power Delivery. It does not and is not compatible with any other type of proprietary fast, quick, rapid charging methods.
You should be able to get 5v 2.4A using the Pixel's cable or any proper cable A to C cable with the proper 56k ohm resister
This is a good thread to look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/chargers-t3476073 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/accessories/usb-c-c-c-cables-t3493357
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Thanks for the info, this is driving me crazy
imnuts said:
I get rapid charging from my Nexus 6 charger and a USB A to USB C cable. I don't believe it's as fast as the Pixel charger, but it works well enough.
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That's what I am using and can go from 0 to 100 in just a little over 2 hours. Same time with note 7 charger and cable.
Seems pretty fast for me
I wonder why the device reports "charging rapidly" when using a Samsung adaptive fast charger?
Hi pixel owners.
I have 3 xl without it original charger, I used instead a Sony one (2.0) and Huawei 2.0 and dash charge (5v 4A)
All of them charges my phone about 1300mAh. The phone doesn't read it as a fast charge.
I used the same chargers and cable on other phones and it all works.
Should it be the original or what
Pixel line up charges over USB Power Delivery protocol. Our 3's XL charge up to 18W with the original charger.
I currently use the original one and a Motorola TurboPower from a Z2, which achieves 15W charging, not bad at all.
Haven't noticed changes between my cables.
STALKER18 said:
Hi pixel owners.
I have 3 xl without it original charger, I used instead a Sony one (2.0) and Huawei 2.0 and dash charge (5v 4A)
All of them charges my phone about 1300mAh. The phone doesn't read it as a fast charge.
I used the same chargers and cable on other phones and it all works.
Should it be the original or what
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In order to get fast charging you need a charger that supports Power Delivery (PD). It doesn't need to be a Google charger. There are many other choices out there. Same thing goes with a power bank. If you want to get fast charging, you need a power bank that supports PD *output*. There is also an "Accessories" forum here where chargers are discussed ad nauseum.
My wife has a LETSCOM wireless charger, that she uses without issue with her Pixel 3. It works intermittently with my Pixel 5, and I can't work out why. Often, when I put my P5 on it, the charger flashes red/blue - according to the user guide, this is "overcurrent protection". If I reboot the P5 or unplug / replug in the charger, the charger stays blue, charges the P5 with no issues. More often than not, I get the "overcurrent" issue though. I've plugged the charger into my P5 charger, using the P5 USB cable. Any thoughts?
mroshaw said:
My wife has a LETSCOM wireless charger, that she uses without issue with her Pixel 3. It works intermittently with my Pixel 5, and I can't work out why. Often, when I put my P5 on it, the charger flashes red/blue - according to the user guide, this is "overcurrent protection". If I reboot the P5 or unplug / replug in the charger, the charger stays blue, charges the P5 with no issues. More often than not, I get the "overcurrent" issue though. I've plugged the charger into my P5 charger, using the P5 USB cable. Any thoughts?
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FWIW I have an Anker wireless 10W Fast-Charging PowerWave Pad and while it fast charges other phones (S10e, and other Samsung phones).
I tried it with the Pixel 5 and it says "charging slowly". A pity really as I think it's one of the best reasonable wireless chargers out there.
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FWIW I have an Anker wireless 10W Fast-Charging PowerWave Pad and while it fast charges other phones (S10e, and other Samsung phones).
I tried it with the Pixel 5 and it says "charging slowly". A pity really as I think it's one of the best reasonable wireless chargers out there.
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Are you using the same wall plug when trying different devices on it? For the Pixel 5 to fast charge, your wall plug needs to be 9V/2A at least 18W and the pad needs to support or to be within spec of the Qi 15W Extended Power Profile, which should then allow it to fast charge on your pad at 10W. If its under 18W wall plug or only say 5V/2A, then it wont fast wireless charge the Pixel 5 due to that 15W EPP afaik :good:
Also, the Pixel 5 has max 12W wireless charging, but most pads will usually drop down if its a 15W pad for example, from 15W to 10W to 7W, 5W - or thereabouts, so I'm not sure we'll get anything above 10W wireless unless its a specific 12W pad. From my understanding at least
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Are you using the same wall plug when trying different devices on it? For the Pixel 5 to fast charge, your wall plug needs to be 9V/2A at least 18W and the pad needs to support or to be within spec of the Qi 15W Extended Power Profile, which should then allow it to fast charge on your pad at 10W. If its under 18W wall plug or only say 5V/2A, then it wont fast wireless charge the Pixel 5 due to that 15W EPP afaik :good:
Also, the Pixel 5 has max 12W wireless charging, but most pads will usually drop down if its a 15W pad for example, from 15W to 10W to 7W, 5W - or thereabouts, so I'm not sure we'll get anything above 10W wireless unless its a specific 12W pad. From my understanding at least
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I'm using the Anker recommended wall plug. I don't have enough posts to provide a link in comment but its title on Amazon is "Quick Charge 3.0, Anker 18W USB Wall Charger PowerPort+1(Quick Charge 2.0 Compatible, Qualcomm Certified) for Galaxy S8/S7/S6/Edge/Plus, Note 5/4, LG G4, HTC One A9/M9, Nexus 6, iPhone, iPad and More".
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I'm using the Anker recommended wall plug. I don't have enough posts to provide a link in comment but its title on Amazon is "Quick Charge 3.0, Anker 18W USB Wall Charger PowerPort+1(Quick Charge 2.0 Compatible, Qualcomm Certified) for Galaxy S8/S7/S6/Edge/Plus, Note 5/4, LG G4, HTC One A9/M9, Nexus 6, iPhone, iPad and More".
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ah I see, so this device is QuickCharge 3, however it does not support Qualcomm's Extended Power Profile by the looks of it, so it wont fast charge any of the Pixel devices, they require EPP standard and for 10W wireless charging on the pixel 5, it must be at least 18W 9V/2A + minimum 15W EPP.
The PowerWave Pad itself looks to only use 10W Fast Charging when using a 9V/2A wall plug (which is fine for Samsung devices using QC2 or 3), however, it won't fast charge the Pixel in the same way without being certified for Qualcomm Extended Power Profile. So your Pixel will only charge at 5W on it unfortunately.
Yep! Was disappointed. I'm unsure of which non Google brand wireless chargers will wirelessly charge this thing faster than "charging slowly"
Jeez, it's a compatibility nightmare! If anyone has a fast charging wireless solution for P5, please let us know!
This works for me:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D9KT4HP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1