Just wanted to say hello and get some advice - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

To the Note 4 community at large, I have officially joined you and am so happy to have done so. I was on a gs3 for 3.5 years and finally upgraded to a LG V10. 2 weeks ago and after 20 months of relatively issue-free use, my V10 bootlooped itself to death in my hand and I immediately took that opportunity to start shopping for a Note 4. (LG replaced the main board for free way beyond their extended warranty because it "wasn't charging through the port"... Whatever, didn't cost me anything but the inconvenience.)
Anyway, I picked up a gently used N4 on ebay for 215 shipped and it just got here this afternoon, already had a glass screen protector, uag case, zerolemon and case and OG box/charger. It came with MM and is on baseband CQD1, which seems pretty far along as far as downgrading/rooting/roaming from reading through the threads available but I obviously wanted to check in with everyone here first for options. Am I screwed as far root/romability? When I bought this phone, I was picturing running a rooted stock rom. I just want the hardware to not be hindered by the software. Currently running Oct-N on my gs3 and for the most part it's all good but the lag makes maps essentially useless. I don't want that for my daily driver, especially on a phone that I've wanted since it released.
Thanks in advance for any advice/helpful pointers, love xda and all it provides through the people here

You can try this link in xda try to ask there. Thata the thread to go from mm 6.0.1 to a custom rom it tells you cm13 but you can install something else instead.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...guide-step-step-stock-n910v-6-0-1-to-t3426905

AirForceOnes0010 said:
To the Note 4 community at large, I have officially joined you and am so happy to have done so. I was on a gs3 for 3.5 years and finally upgraded to a LG V10. 2 weeks ago and after 20 months of relatively issue-free use, my V10 bootlooped itself to death in my hand and I immediately took that opportunity to start shopping for a Note 4. (LG replaced the main board for free way beyond their extended warranty because it "wasn't charging through the port"... Whatever, didn't cost me anything but the inconvenience.)
Anyway, I picked up a gently used N4 on ebay for 215 shipped and it just got here this afternoon, already had a glass screen protector, uag case, zerolemon and case and OG box/charger. It came with MM and is on baseband CQD1, which seems pretty far along as far as downgrading/rooting/roaming from reading through the threads available but I obviously wanted to check in with everyone here first for options. Am I screwed as far root/romability? When I bought this phone, I was picturing running a rooted stock rom. I just want the hardware to not be hindered by the software. Currently running Oct-N on my gs3 and for the most part it's all good but the lag makes maps essentially useless. I don't want that for my daily driver, especially on a phone that I've wanted since it released.
Thanks in advance for any advice/helpful pointers, love xda and all it provides through the people here
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Get that bad boy unlocked and come join the party. You just bought the last in a line of kings that began with the s2 skyrocket (first sammie i had lol) and this is my last ....everything beyond this is sim locked w/o the ability to remove the battery . Btw what did/do you think of the lg v series ive heard good things and i do like the secondary display even though its really more of an extension than a 2nd display . Was wondering how it runs comparitively to oh say your note 4 lol

mojoswagger1980 said:
Get that bad boy unlocked and come join the party. You just bought the last in a line of kings that began with the s2 skyrocket (first sammie i had lol) and this is my last ....everything beyond this is sim locked w/o the ability to remove the battery . Btw what did/do you think of the lg v series ive heard good things and i do like the secondary display even though its really more of an extension than a 2nd display . Was wondering how it runs comparitively to oh say your note 4 lol
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I still need to run the 50+ step gauntlet and unlock it. Bone stock, but setup like my V10 with nova and such, it's just a hair slower. I rarely notice or care. I kept my V10 in case *knock on wood* some tragedy should befall my note but I really like this phone better. The screen is absolutely amazing compared to the v10 and I do occasionally use the s-pen, mostly for writing dimensions on pictures so I can remember sizes of whatever.
I thought the second screen was awesome, mostly with the screen off. One swipe and there's your flashlight button, another swipe and there's your music controls. Paired with a zerolemon, it got epic battery life for not being rooted because I didn't need to turn the screen on as often. I know some people really hate the light bleed from the second screen and it is uselessly dim for notifications so I used the NoLED app to make them more noticeable and had no complaints after that. I solved all my second screen withdrawals by putting a s-view case on the note and haven't looked back. It's more functional and makes it look like a giant ipod classic lol.

AirForceOnes0010 said:
I still need to run the 50+ step gauntlet and unlock it. Bone stock, but setup like my V10 with nova and such, it's just a hair slower. I rarely notice or care. I kept my V10 in case *knock on wood* some tragedy should befall my note but I really like this phone better. The screen is absolutely amazing compared to the v10 and I do occasionally use the s-pen, mostly for writing dimensions on pictures so I can remember sizes of whatever.
I thought the second screen was awesome, mostly with the screen off. One swipe and there's your flashlight button, another swipe and there's your music controls. Paired with a zerolemon, it got epic battery life for not being rooted because I didn't need to turn the screen on as often. I know some people really hate the light bleed from the second screen and it is uselessly dim for notifications so I used the NoLED app to make them more noticeable and had no complaints after that. I solved all my second screen withdrawals by putting a s-view case on the note and haven't looked back. It's more functional and makes it look like a giant ipod classic lol.
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Lol its really only sketchy the first time you unlock it ...and look on the bright side your finally grtting around to learning to use adb minimum (not to mention all root methods after this will feel easy) i had the note 3 and this is the same exploit i used to unlock it so i wasnt shell shocked by the concept of super sketchy temp root) it is a phenomally good idea to use dr. Cools stabalized method to unlock the bootloader (its in the forum somwhere) for at least his method some of his files are outdated and should maybe be updated but his guide is still my personal reference . Also you do not need a verizon sim card ! The note 4 isnt sim locked i used a cricket wireless sim . You do have to manually enter apn info though i found mine at apngeisha.com (really only applies if you want to update to 6.0.1 and above) Good luck !

AirForceOnes0010 said:
I still need to run the 50+ step gauntlet and unlock it. Bone stock, but setup like my V10 with nova and such, it's just a hair slower. I rarely notice or care. I kept my V10 in case *knock on wood* some tragedy should befall my note but I really like this phone better. The screen is absolutely amazing compared to the v10 and I do occasionally use the s-pen, mostly for writing dimensions on pictures so I can remember sizes of whatever.
I thought the second screen was awesome, mostly with the screen off. One swipe and there's your flashlight button, another swipe and there's your music controls. Paired with a zerolemon, it got epic battery life for not being rooted because I didn't need to turn the screen on as often. I know some people really hate the light bleed from the second screen and it is uselessly dim for notifications so I used the NoLED app to make them more noticeable and had no complaints after that. I solved all my second screen withdrawals by putting a s-view case on the note and haven't looked back. It's more functional and makes it look like a giant ipod classic lol.
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Just bought a new n4 and did the 6.1.1 to stock 5.1.1 to unlock and root. Well worth it, phone is so much nicer without bloat and ability to use all the root apps. Its not terribly difficult process just time consuming. Good luck

Hi, I'd suggest you use the Batman Rom by Star53, it combines the features of the note 4 and the s8, it's well developed and battery friendly, it can be found over at the Note 4 Snapdragon forum, and a good kernel with that Rom is modest kernel by Kevintm78, with this setup you'll easily be able to get at least 4 hour SOT

Thanks for all the advice, why I come here really nice having a phone with development still on-going, Verizon v10 forum was very depressing

Twowong4words said:
Just bought a new n4 and did the 6.1.1 to stock 5.1.1 to unlock and root. Well worth it, phone is so much nicer without bloat and ability to use all the root apps. Its not terribly difficult process just time consuming. Good luck
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Only moderately difficult the very first time. The phone takes root way easier after it has been rooted once.

Get yourself unlocked and once you do, either use MoDestROm or N7. User kevintm78 is the author of MoDestRom and he has released a kernel which is compatible for both ROMs, if I understand correctly. There are actually 4 separate kernel files, you only need one. Basically, there are two kernel files for each ROM, one without, and one WITH ZeroLemon battery compatibility. If you don't use one of these ZL compatible kernels or if you stay on stock rom, then your phone is likely to not read your battery percentage correctly. Moreover, it'll stay at 1% like mine did for quite a few hours, which is extremely annoying, considering the phone goes dim at 3%.
Here's a link to the Kernel thread. - MoDest Kernel
I don't know what else is out there, or what else works with the Note 4 (SM-N910V) in terms of ZeroLemon battery compatibility, so there could be more stuff out there. But I'm fine with this. In fact, I've even inquired about using a different battery, there's an even higher capacity battery, I think 11,800 mAh (ZL is 10,000 mAh), and kevin told me that he thinks it should work fine but this is more than likely untested and more like a theory of his.

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Early Impressions About T-Mobile Galaxy S4

I have been using mine for a few hours now and decided to write a bit about my first impressions. I hope these will be helpful.
Here are my initial thoughts (I am coming from the iPhone 5 that I had been using for the last 5 mos)
- The phone is light (feels too light for its size), but well made and well balanced in terms of weight. No issues with build quality (except for the one mentioned below). But it's so freaking slippery. I can't wait for my Spigen case to arrive.
- The screen is gorgeous. Large and vibrant. If you don't like AMOLED oversaturation, there is a "Movie" preset that tones down the colors.
- Battery life is the best I've ever experienced. Even compared to the iPhone. I used the phone for about 3 hours and was only down 25% (I understand that the gauge still needs to be calibrated and the battery life so far may not be typical).
- I am not a fan of stock Android, but Touchwhiz is bloated and laggy. With the specs that the phone has, there shouldn't be any choppiness or waiting for stock apps (caller, etc.) to open. But there is. I am hoping that Samsung will optimize the skin's performance in the next update.
- Related: People who put so much non-removable bloatware should be hung by their necks. Why is Flipboard, Chrome, Lookout and tens of other apps non-removable and always seem to run in the background? I'll wait for a verified list of safe-to-remove apps and bye-bye bloatware.
- Overall Touchwhiz is inconsistent. The design of stock apps varies so much. And damn those stupid bubble sounds.
- Camera is amazing in well-lit environments (better than the iPhone's), but not so much in low light (The Night mode fixes the issue for static objects though).
- Call sound quality is great.
- The only minor gripe about the build quality / design that I have concerns the power button. It's small, almost flush, and has very weak, almost non-existent tactile feedback. Just the opposite of what the power button on the iPhone is like. The volume rocker is fine though.
I will update this thread if I discover anything new.
Please, post your mini-reviews and first impressions here as well. Thanks.
Thanks for the early review. I'm getting mine tomorrow, so the wait is killing me.
Which color did you get by the way? And what did you think of that color?
I got black but still have some urge to get white. It might not matter because I also bought the Neo Hybrid case.
It does seem Samsung and T-Mo have put a lot of bloatware into the device - I can't wait for a good ROM to come by.
From my showrooming at AT&T and Best Buy, the display is indeed gorgeous and the design is better. I don't know.
I've seen the HTC One side by side with the S4 in AT&T and Best Buy, and I don't think the S4 is that much worse/cheap-feeling.
I actually found the S4 to be more comfortable to hold, and seems to fit more comfortably into my hand. The HTC One,
with all its aluminium glory, feels more rigid, and certainly not as light as the S4. I don't know.. preference.
I do think one other phone that doesn't get too much love is the Xperia Z. Great build quality, near-stock UI.
They have some nice themes that I'm using on the S3.
Good early review. I do have a question for you. I am thinking of returning this iPhone 5 for the S4. Knowing what you know now, would you advise others like me to hang on and wait it out? or is this a phone that even with its lag problems worth the switch?
GG2012 said:
Thanks for the early review. I'm getting mine tomorrow, so the wait is killing me.
Which color did you get by the way? And what did you think of that color?
I got black but still have some urge to get white. It might not matter because I also bought the Neo Hybrid case.
It does seem Samsung and T-Mo have put a lot of bloatware into the device - I can't wait for a good ROM to come by.
From my showrooming at AT&T and Best Buy, the display is indeed gorgeous and the design is better. I don't know.
I've seen the HTC One side by side with the S4 in AT&T and Best Buy, and I don't think the S4 is that much worse/cheap-feeling.
I actually found the S4 to be more comfortable to hold, and seems to fit more comfortably into my hand. The HTC One,
with all its aluminium glory, feels more rigid, and certainly not as light as the S4. I don't know.. preference.
I do think one other phone that doesn't get too much love is the Xperia Z. Great build quality, near-stock UI.
They have some nice themes that I'm using on the S3.
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I got the black mist version and I like it much better than the white. But it's personal preference.
I have already rooted the phone using the Motochopper exploit (very easy; thanks to Dan).
I also find the design much better than the S3 (more "professional", "industrial").
I do like how the HTC looks and feel, but it's not by any means more rigid. None of these phones are rugged.
The Xperia Z is a great looking phone but I personally thing that the screen on the S4 and HTC One are miles better.
With that said, the most important factor for me was the removable battery. It's always great to have a phone that doesn't have a worn battery even after a year or two of use. Plus, the battery itself is the largest one among five-inchers.
ferganer said:
I got the black mist version and I like it much better than the white. But it's personal preference.
I have already rooted the phone using the Motochopper exploit (very easy; thanks to Dan).
I also find the design much better than the S3 (more "professional", "industrial").
I do like how the HTC looks and feel, but it's not by any means more rigid. None of these phones are rugged.
The Xperia Z is a great looking phone but I personally thing that the screen on the S4 and HTC One are miles better.
With that said, the most important factor for me was the removable battery. It's always great to have a phone that doesn't have a worn battery even after a year or two of use. Plus, the battery itself is the largest one among five-inchers.
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The Note 2 has the best battery life by far of any smartphone that is not the Droid Razr Maxx. That thing can last for days, and maybe weeks with the monster Anker extended battery. I hope I can get similar results with the S4, though I'm afraid if I keep a lot of apps, that will drain the battery faster. I have to say the dual speakers on the HTC One really impressed me. I'm wondering why Samsung still hasn't done it this way (or even better, dual front and back speakers). They're already one of the few tablet makers that put the speakers in front, and not the back. I live for the replaceable battery and microSD slot.
oak25 said:
Good early review. I do have a question for you. I am thinking of returning this iPhone 5 for the S4. Knowing what you know now, would you advise others like me to hang on and wait it out? or is this a phone that even with its lag problems worth the switch?
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It's personal preference. There are advantages for both phones.
iPhone is much more practical to use as a PHONE (smaller size, pocketability). It's much more fluid. However, the screen size and resolution are limiting.
The S4 being a flagship Android device offers great hardware (namely the screen) and customizibility.
I have rooted my phone and installed Titanium. I will remove as much bloatware as possible and see if that fixes the lagginess problem. I will report back.
Overall, I do not regret switching from the iPhone. So far, I am really liking the S4. Let's see if that changes
My wife and I just got ours. We switched from verizon to tmo and I switched from my galaxy nexus and she switched from an iphone5. I was really nervous that she wouldnt like it but so far she loves it and hasnt put it down in few hours. For me it wasnt that big of a change... but for her it is like the first time she picked up a smart phone. The screen i think is what she likes the best... it is big but the phone doesnt feel massive. I think it actually feels smaller in hand than my gnexus. And she really likes the camera (not talking quality just the options). It is going to take me some time to get use to touch wiz but I will probably unlock the bootloader and install cm 10.1 whenever it is available for it.
If anyone else is interested in any other details let me know.
I would have no problem recommending this over an iphone5 to anyone. I probably would never have said that about any other phone before (i made my mom get the iphone4s when it came out). Now when the next iphone (5s/6) comes out that may be a different story (but we will have to wait until apple lets us know what they are doing next).
ttrevorr said:
My wife and I just got ours. We switched from verizon to tmo and I switched from my galaxy nexus and she switched from an iphone5. I was really nervous that she wouldnt like it but so far she loves it and hasnt put it down in few hours. For me it wasnt that big of a change... but for her it is like the first time she picked up a smart phone. The screen i think is what she likes the best... it is big but the phone doesnt feel massive. I think it actually feels smaller in hand than my gnexus. And she really likes the camera (not talking quality just the options). It is going to take me some time to get use to touch wiz but I will probably unlock the bootloader and install cm 10.1 whenever it is available for it.
If anyone else is interested in any other details let me know.
I would have no problem recommending this over an iphone5 to anyone. I probably would never have said that about any other phone before (i made my mom get the iphone4s when it came out). Now when the next iphone (5s/6) comes out that may be a different story (but we will have to wait until apple lets us know what they are doing next).
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Thanks for your input. Unfortunately, Tim Cook stated that we shouldn't be expecting a larger size/resolution screen iPhone any time soon. So, if screen size matters to you, the S4 is indeed a better option.
Phone is great. Lag is minor. But I do notice top of screen can get hot fairly quick from not too much intense tasks.. not to bad though. Amd an update will surely adress these things
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I made a unbagging (because Tmo shipped my GS4 in a polybag rather than a box), unpackaging, setup, and initial impressions video.
http://youtu.be/6aaJ_pAlFZw
Since I've filmed this, I wanna add this:
Basically, I believe this launch was less than stellar. Not only did Samsung tease the S4 over the last few months, but there's the locked/verifiable bootloaders (again I add verifiable because from my understanding on AT&T and most likely Verizon too, there's checks to make sure you have a legit recovery and boot image for those particular carriers, and if it fails, brick), little availability for 32GB (ironically the only carrier to have a 32GB version is the locking down AT&T); ZERO 64GB when they claimed that 16, 32, and 64 GB versions would be available, and as I expected, Sixaxis and Wii Remotes DO NOT work out of the box (mostly because it uses Android 4.2.2 and from past experience with my Nexus 7 it does NOT play nice with sixaxis or wii remotes for whatever reason).
Oh well, at least I did showcase the Motochopper root method at the time of filming and some time after I filmed, T-mobile's version of the bootloader can indeed be unlocked. (Sprint's is unlocked from the start, btw.)
adventure_of_link said:
I made a unbagging (because Tmo shipped my GS4 in a polybag rather than a box), unpackaging, setup, and initial impressions video.
http://youtu.be/6aaJ_pAlFZw
Since I've filmed this, I wanna add this:
Basically, I believe this launch was less than stellar. Not only did Samsung tease the S4 over the last few months, but there's the locked/verifiable bootloaders (again I add verifiable because from my understanding on AT&T and most likely Verizon too, there's checks to make sure you have a legit recovery and boot image for those particular carriers, and if it fails, brick), little availability for 32GB (ironically the only carrier to have a 32GB version is the locking down AT&T); ZERO 64GB when they claimed that 16, 32, and 64 GB versions would be available, and as I expected, Sixaxis and Wii Remotes DO NOT work out of the box (mostly because it uses Android 4.2.2 and from past experience with my Nexus 7 it does NOT play nice with sixaxis or wii remotes for whatever reason).
Oh well, at least I did showcase the Motochopper root method at the time of filming and some time after I filmed, T-mobile's version of the bootloader can indeed be unlocked. (Sprint's is unlocked from the start, btw.)
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It's funny because AT&T keeps claiming "soon" for the 32 GB version yet no one knows (and AT&T will not say anything about) when "soon" is. So, although it could happen, AT&T doesn't have the 32 GB yet (and I think may never).
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T-mobile's version of the bootloader can indeed be unlocked. (Sprint's is unlocked from the start, btw.)
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Not "can be unlocked", is unlocked. Period.
GG2012 said:
The Note 2 has the best battery life by far of any smartphone that is not the Droid Razr Maxx. That thing can last for days, and maybe weeks with the monster Anker extended battery. I hope I can get similar results with the S4, though I'm afraid if I keep a lot of apps, that will drain the battery faster. I have to say the dual speakers on the HTC One really impressed me. I'm wondering why Samsung still hasn't done it this way (or even better, dual front and back speakers). They're already one of the few tablet makers that put the speakers in front, and not the back. I live for the replaceable battery and microSD slot.
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I sold my razr maxx to someone and bought a galaxy nexus.I will never again buy a phone with a non removable battery. With my gnex I love carrying an extra fully charged battery in case of emergency or if I just run out of juice
GNex // Toro // CodeX // AK exp // Hue
scott14719 said:
It's funny because AT&T keeps claiming "soon" for the 32 GB version yet no one knows (and AT&T will not say anything about) when "soon" is. So, although it could happen, AT&T doesn't have the 32 GB yet (and I think may never).
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Im sorry man but this has to be the worst video i have seen in my life
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Im sorry man but this has to be the worst video i have seen in my life
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ROFLMAO!
The best part is we get to see his feet and crusty toes roflcopter! (just kidding man)
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Charlie Brown said:
ROFLMAO!
The best part is we get to see his feet and crusty toes roflcopter! (just kidding man)
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hahahaha, I had to do anything I could to get that darned bag open (and on that note, is probably yet another reason I need to seriously consider getting the tripod for my S4... EDIT 5:45 PM: Just ordered the tripod. Use SPRINGACC up till May 15th to get 20% off on Accessories at T-mobile)
dkotoric said:
Im sorry man but this has to be the worst video i have seen in my life
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Okay, in all fairness I accidentally made it all wordy, but it's the first unpackaging video I ever made..
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hahahaha, I had to do anything I could to get that darned bag open (and on that note, is probably yet another reason I need to seriously consider getting the tripod for my S4... EDIT 5:45 PM: Just ordered the tripod. Use SPRINGACC up till May 15th to get 20% off on Accessories at T-mobile)
Okay, in all fairness I accidentally made it all wordy, but it's the first unpackaging video I ever made..
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LOL I'm just giving you shlt cause I'm jealous I don't have one. LOL

Switching from HTC One

Who here switched from HTC One to the Optimus G pro and didnt wanna look back?
Ive had my HTC One since AT&T first got it and had a charger port issue on it and they replaced it and each replacement after my 1st one which had the charger port issue has been crap, I have had 4 htc ones in less than a week from warranty all have had build quility issues. well I`m gonna pick me up a Optimus G Pro today.
I have 3 issues I`m afraid though.
1. Is afriad it will be too big. I owned the Note 1 forever and the Note 2 for several months but I havent had the note 2 since march or april.
2. Wifi Tethering I have the unlimated plan and there doesnt seem to be an international rom I can just flash like I did on my HTC One
3. AT&T`s 4G data indicater! I cant stand it! I`d perfer it to be 3G,H,H+, 4G, or LTE Not 4G or 4GLTE I hate it anyway to change that? On HTC I had to change the CID. On Samsung I just had to change the build Prop.
@hyelton,
Size won't be an issue. Its surprisingly comfortable to hold. I've had the Note 2 and One. You won't really know the difference in size. Looks big doesn't feel like it.
As for tethering and data icon....development is in progress so you May get your wishes granted soon.
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Actually the tethering is already working, there's a whole thread on it in the General section.
This phone is great, probably the best choice I've ever made. I have the 5gb ATT plan so WiFi tethering wasn't a big deal for me.
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just unboxed it gotta get a case and screen protector online now store had nothing.
Think Im GONNA LOVE THIS PHONE!!!!!! Rooted and got into the build prop changed a few things and was sadly disappointed that changing those few things didnt give me tethering nor did it change the signal bars and data icons to international, But... I did a reset on the phone and BAM the build prop changes took affect! Awesome!
I know have Network Selection Mobile Networks to change to WCDMA Only, GSM, and LTE only !
I know have 4 total Signal Bars Like the Korean version and same goes for the data indicators I now see 3G at the top!
and Tethering works without having to do that SQL script or whatever it is.
Edit..found it, never mind
Thanks
Never owned the HTC One, but did quite a bit of research into it before I ended up going with the G Pro. I'll admit that having owned the original Note is what drew me to the G Pro, but there are other reasons I believe it is a superior phone.
From the moment I bought it, I've loved every aspect of it, from its size, to build quality, to performance, to stock Rom, to features, etc. The QRemote app is awesome, the LED-laced home button is even more awesome, the camera takes excellent pictures and video, the "plastic" construction feels like a whole new type of material after coming from Samsung devices; it feels very secure (as long as you don't need to constantly remove the back cover). Battery life is great too.
A few things you have to get used to though:
"Temperature" issues. It doesn't get hot, per say, but it has a built-in safeguard that turns the screen brightness down during any kind of resource-intensive activity, like GPS usage, game playing, or video watching, and good luck turning the brightness way up while doing that (there are ways of disabling this safeguard, but I personally trust the engineers that there is a reason it is implemented and I won't mess with it).
Battery life, while generally great, is susceptible to quick drainage. Namely, GPS usage drains it scarily fast, but that may just be an aspect of all android phones. However, since the battery normally lasts so long on the G Pro, the quick drain from a quick car ride using navigation is all the more noticeable.
Android development for the G Pro isn't anywhere close to where the One is at. THAT BEING SAID, as of a few hours ago, an unofficial port of CM 10.1 was ported to our device, and I expect once all the bugs are worked out it will give a nice jump-start to the development of other Roms. Additionally, the stock Rom is excellent to begin with, and by far the smoothest and most fully-featured stock Rom I've ever used on any Android phone. Period.
The screen is very sensitive. Again, I don't own the One so I can't comment on how it compares, but the one thing that bothers me the most about my phone is that whenever it is in my pocket and I get a notification of some sort, the screen turns on, and somehow the slight movement of the phone in my pocket causes it to call 911, text all my friends, change the brightness, enable NFC, open the calculator, etc. etc. It's so bad that I'm forced to have a pattern-unlock on it, not because I want the security, but because I don't want my phone unlocking by itself and wreaking havoc in my pocket. Even with that enabled, however, there's still the "Emergency call" button I can't get rid of on the lockscreen, so it still occasionally dials out to the police from my pants.
Keep in mind, I really had to reach a little to come up with all of the above "drawbacks". It is my favorite phone I've ever seen or used or owned, and were it not for its maddening sound quality issues over bluetooth with my car system (more than likely related to Android 4.1.2 and not the phone itself, as I can't find anybody else having my issues with the G Pro specifically), I would probably not feel the need to even mess with the stock Rom on it. In fact, the bluetooth thing caused me to reconsider the One, but once you get used to the slightly larger frame of the G Pro (the bezels are very thin, so the frame is relatively thin and light for the ginormous screen you're getting), you really don't want to go back to anything smaller.
Hopefully I didn't confuse you more.. the G Pro is the right way to go. No phone is perfect, the One is an impressive looking device, but as of right now, the G Pro is as close to perfection as it's gonna get.
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Never owned the HTC One, but did quite a bit of research into it before I ended up going with the G Pro. I'll admit that having owned the original Note is what drew me to the G Pro, but there are other reasons I believe it is a superior phone.
From the moment I bought it, I've loved every aspect of it, from its size, to build quality, to performance, to stock Rom, to features, etc. The QRemote app is awesome, the LED-laced home button is even more awesome, the camera takes excellent pictures and video, the "plastic" construction feels like a whole new type of material after coming from Samsung devices; it feels very secure (as long as you don't need to constantly remove the back cover). Battery life is great too.
A few things you have to get used to though:
"Temperature" issues. It doesn't get hot, per say, but it has a built-in safeguard that turns the screen brightness down during any kind of resource-intensive activity, like GPS usage, game playing, or video watching, and good luck turning the brightness way up while doing that (there are ways of disabling this safeguard, but I personally trust the engineers that there is a reason it is implemented and I won't mess with it).
Battery life, while generally great, is susceptible to quick drainage. Namely, GPS usage drains it scarily fast, but that may just be an aspect of all android phones. However, since the battery normally lasts so long on the G Pro, the quick drain from a quick car ride using navigation is all the more noticeable.
Android development for the G Pro isn't anywhere close to where the One is at. THAT BEING SAID, as of a few hours ago, an unofficial port of CM 10.1 was ported to our device, and I expect once all the bugs are worked out it will give a nice jump-start to the development of other Roms. Additionally, the stock Rom is excellent to begin with, and by far the smoothest and most fully-featured stock Rom I've ever used on any Android phone. Period.
The screen is very sensitive. Again, I don't own the One so I can't comment on how it compares, but the one thing that bothers me the most about my phone is that whenever it is in my pocket and I get a notification of some sort, the screen turns on, and somehow the slight movement of the phone in my pocket causes it to call 911, text all my friends, change the brightness, enable NFC, open the calculator, etc. etc. It's so bad that I'm forced to have a pattern-unlock on it, not because I want the security, but because I don't want my phone unlocking by itself and wreaking havoc in my pocket. Even with that enabled, however, there's still the "Emergency call" button I can't get rid of on the lockscreen, so it still occasionally dials out to the police from my pants.
Keep in mind, I really had to reach a little to come up with all of the above "drawbacks". It is my favorite phone I've ever seen or used or owned, and were it not for its maddening sound quality issues over bluetooth with my car system (more than likely related to Android 4.1.2 and not the phone itself, as I can't find anybody else having my issues with the G Pro specifically), I would probably not feel the need to even mess with the stock Rom on it. In fact, the bluetooth thing caused me to reconsider the One, but once you get used to the slightly larger frame of the G Pro (the bezels are very thin, so the frame is relatively thin and light for the ginormous screen you're getting), you really don't want to go back to anything smaller.
Hopefully I didn't confuse you more.. the G Pro is the right way to go. No phone is perfect, the One is an impressive looking device, but as of right now, the G Pro is as close to perfection as it's gonna get.
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Yepp +1 on no phone is perfect But the HTC One people had issues of calling 911 etc in there pocket lol.
I came from the HTc one... The upper boom speaker, kept going out.. (2 phones) and besides that.. It felt too tiny.. Battery life was a joke...IMO.. This phone is great
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Just swapped my HTC one earlier today for the lgop. While no phone is perfect, I'm certainly enjoying this device much more. Glad I made the switch.
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I got my S4 stolen last night, and will be looking at getting a phone to replace it. I was going to just do the 12 monthly payments for another S4 and call it a day. But the price is still 650-700 bucks, so I started looking at other options. The LG Optimus Pro looks AMAZING, and I found an unlocked international one on Amazon for 480 with free shipping.
My question is whether or not the unlocked phone would work on Verizon. I don't want to buy this phone online and wait for the shipping, just to have it not work with Verizon's 4G. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This phone looks incredible.
@surfbuckeyesbc will not work on vzw
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surge27 said:
@surfbuckeyesbc will not work on vzw
From my X
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That's too bad. So even though it's unlocked and has a SIM slot for 4G, it doesn't have the right radios?
It does have this listed for information:
Dual_Cellular_Network+Operation: Dual standby
Secondary-Cellular;Networks: CDMA1800 (BC4), LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5)
Secondary+Cellular;Data-Links: cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev B, LTE
Switched from HTC One and so far so good.
I prefer many aspects on this phone over htc eg bigger screen, led notification, battery life, ext memory, replaceable battery however there some aspects which I definitely prefer about htc one eg brighter screen, LCD 3 screen, superior aluminium build, BOom speaker sound(miss this most), support development, smoothness and lag free.
UI mix feelings. Compared to htc one lg does lag.
Would I switch back hmmm probably not its got more going for it then not.
Well, I currently have both. I find myself wanting to grab the LG og pro over the ONE. Mind u, I've had the ONE since it dropped. The LG is amazing for watching videos!! I like HTC sense 5 keyboard better, I love HTC ONE build quality. I love the 5.5 inch screen on the LG, I like how it offers sd card slot, and the ui is tight! Right down to the lockscreen. And I also like how I can write on the screen if needed, which surprisingly enough, I do use it a lot.
I can't pick one. I'm tore between the 2.
Me!
Got my HTC One in April.
When G Pro was released in mid July, I trade in my HTC One for it and never look back too!
I love the high performance and big screen of this phone as well as its price. It is worth every cent!
As for UI, no one beats HTC Sense UI yet!
However, let's hope that the upcoming 4.2 update will reduce the lag of 4.1 and makes it even a better phone than it is already now!
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This is a very negative thing imo. I find it ridiculous that they made this phone with no option to disable the display from turning on for every text message received.
-I emailed LG about the issue and of course all I got was the usual "your feedback will be passed on" stuff. But hopefully a future update will fix this.
-The way I dealt with it was by installing Go SMS Pro. It even has a cool little pop-up window of its own that lets you drag your text message around across any screen. Pretty nifty.
Otherwise I absolutely love this phone. I'm coming from a 2-year-old HTC Inspire 4G (laugh it up lol). It now feels like a toy in comparison
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This is a very negative thing imo. I find it ridiculous that they made this phone with no option to disable the display from turning on for every text message received.
-I emailed LG about the issue and of course all I got was the usual "your feedback will be passed on" stuff. But hopefully a future update will fix this.
-The way I dealt with it was by installing Go SMS Pro. It even has a cool little pop-up window of its own that lets you drag your text message around across any screen. Pretty nifty.
Otherwise I absolutely love this phone. I'm coming from a 2-year-old HTC Inspire 4G (laugh it up lol). It now feels like a toy in comparison
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Luckily all it takes to fix it is downloading one of the custom ROMs and, if you so desire, flashing the qremote app onto that ROM.
I just switched from an HTC One yesterday.
I had no issues at all... I just kept thinking of and wanting a larger screen phone that wasn't a Samsung.
After a few weeks on CL, someone contacted me about my ad (straight trade) and said they were interested. They had the OG Pro and wanted a smaller screen phone. The person was upfront about the condition and admitted that there was a a couple of nicks on the corners.
The person wanted my One so bad, that he offered $100 on top of the trade! Also got a smart cover too plus all accessories.
I wish I would have kept the ear buds though.

[Discussion] Looking for a device upgrade

I've had my trusty Verizon Galaxy Nexus for 2 years and my contract is up. I'm been looking at phones and eyeballing the LG G2. I'd love a Nexus 5 but it isn't coming out for Verizon. Plus the G2 seems to have all the features I want in a phone like Wireless Charging, Good specs, etc.
BUT I'm iffy going away from the Nexus line cause last time I did that with the LG G2x, it was a complete disaster and I see the G2 basically starting off the exact same way. The G2x was released with an older Android rom with the promise of a timely update, which never happened and fixed a few problems and introduced several more. The plagued device still has issues and doesn't work right.
The G2 is doing the same thing with 4.2.2. It doesn't even have 4.3 yet and we're about to roll into 4.4. I have a feeling that by the time it gets 4.3, 4.4 will old and 5.0 will be out... if the G2 even gets any additional love. I'm hoping the N5 will help pull some of the weight with the G2 and some stuff gets moved back and forth. But this isn't really a given. I don't want to be in the same boat as the Galaxy Nexus where Verizon or LG doesn't provide updates for stuff like new radios and kernels.
It is a work phone so I have to go with Verizon. The Note 3 sounds great but too big and I have a N7... The G2 just seems like the perfect phone hardware wise and the software has some neat features... but I'll probably jump on AOKP if it ever gets supported. I was actually calling a few Verizon stores in my area and I can pick one up for less than $100 to renew my contract.
What is everyone's thoughts on LG? Have they gotten better at updating their phones? Hopefully with a huge rollout of the G2 they would try to support it a little better. Anyone know when the Samsung S5 is due out?
I'm actually having the same thought about upgrading from my Galaxy Nexus, and the LG G2 is one of my top choices, along with the Note 3. What is keeping me from making the jump is the horrible UI on the G2, at least that's my though being used to clean stock Android. Apart from that, the G2 is definitely an amazing device, a great option for an upgrade.
From what I hear s5 drops mid 2014
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I am holding off until the announcement of n5 just to be sure its not coming to verizon. I am weary to upgrade to another device though as support for them seems to die in about a year unless its a nexus.
Yea I have next week before I leave for Detroit for work. G2 dev looks good now but in 6 months it might be dead. I almost bought a G2 yesterday but I'm going to wait for the N5 and 4.4, then see how fast they port it to the G2. Hopefully its fully compatible with AOSP.
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I went to the Verizon store today and looked at the G2 and the Note 3. Some concerns. The G2 has a curved edge similar to the G2x, which makes putting a screen protector on it painful. Basically you'd have to use a wet apply Screen protector so it sticks to the curves. I run a SP on ALL my devices and really hate wet applies. You probably could use a smaller SP to not reach edge to edge and be ok, but then it looks like crap.
The G2 is very close in size to the Galaxy Nexus which is cool.
The G2 has some pretty good development going on, but I also started looking at the Note 3. It is a little more pricey but basically the same phone in a larger shell with an S-Pen. My phone is a business/pleasure device where I work with customers face to face. I've always thought it would be handy to be able to take written notes on the fly. The size is concerning though. It didn't feel too bad in hand, I could probably manage. The "leather" backing really helped with grip.
I also learned that the Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition is coming out "rumored" November 1st (same as Nexus 5). So perhaps we'll get a new launch of "Developer Editions". If the Galaxy Note 3 (Verizon Edition) can use the roms and mods from the Developer Edition, that would be awesome. Although I don't know how the S-Pen would function on AOSP (like a standard stylus?).
So basically, like I said before, I'm really anxious to pick up a new phone. I actually had the guy grab a G2 from the back, along with a blue feather case, waiting to check out. Being a corporate line, I require permission from an authorized person before they can process it.
At this point I really am excited to wait for the Google Announcement to see what comes out. I'd have to do my homework to see how development moves from a "Developer Edition" to a standard carrier edition.
Any thoughts?
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I want to upgrade as well. G2 prices is great. Note 3 is way too expensive.
But I'll wait for Nexus 5.
I'm really crazy about getting updates.
At some points, I really want to use other OEM's ROM, as they looks way more stable than custom ROMs like PA or CM.
But... I don't like waiting for updates. and their updates doesn't feel like an update because the UI almost not changed...
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I want to upgrade as well. G2 prices is great. Note 3 is way too expensive.
But I'll wait for Nexus 5.
I'm really crazy about getting updates.
At some points, I really want to use other OEM's ROM, as they looks way more stable than custom ROMs like PA or CM.
But... I don't like waiting for updates. and their updates doesn't feel like an update because the UI almost not changed...
Ge note 3 would be awesome. But IMHO snote is what makes the spen bad ass. Been hoping For Google keep to support wacam spen. Don't see why it would hurt seeing that those who don't have spen won't notice the difference. Or since my understanding is Google edition is basically an OEM ROM with OEM framework maybe snote could be downloaded in the play store...
I am partial to the note is say get the note. Chances are their will be ROMs for the latest and greatest. TW has some neat features you may end up liking them. Or you can hate them. For me the G2 seems too awkward with the volume And power button on the back. Made the phone feel bigger than it actually is. Maybe you could adjust to it.
I am running kit kat 4.4. on my note 2000
I'm not 100% sure. After doing some research, I think I misspoke here and there is supposed to be a "Developer edition" which is basically stock TouchWiz but comes pre-unlocked.
Although if they were going to announce it at the Nexus keynote, why wouldn't it have stock Android?
Anyway, the Verizon Note 3 is locked down tight right now. No Root. No bootloader. No custom recovery. No roms. The other carriers are having fun though. We'll see. I played with the G2 and the Note3 in depth at the store and while I was leaning on the Note3, I'll probably get the G2. It all really depends. My company typically buys them, so if he says "Hook him up", then I'll take the Note 3 for a trial run to see how I like it.
The G2 on Verizon is getting blown up with mods and roms but don't expect LG to come through with updates after a year. For me, it is a really tough call. Going AOSP on these phones pretty much ruins the experience with all the extras that make them unique. I do plan on using the stock roms for a while. I just hate how LG released on 4.2.2. In 9 months they'll update to 4.3 and call it a day. Note 3 is already 4.3, and probably see 4.4 here soon. And you know you'll get 5.0 (or whatever the next update is).
The Note 3 also felt better in hand.
player911 said:
I've had my trusty Verizon Galaxy Nexus for 2 years and my contract is up. I'm been looking at phones and eyeballing the LG G2. I'd love a Nexus 5 but it isn't coming out for Verizon. Plus the G2 seems to have all the features I want in a phone like Wireless Charging, Good specs, etc.
BUT I'm iffy going away from the Nexus line cause last time I did that with the LG G2x, it was a complete disaster and I see the G2 basically starting off the exact same way. The G2x was released with an older Android rom with the promise of a timely update, which never happened and fixed a few problems and introduced several more. The plagued device still has issues and doesn't work right.
The G2 is doing the same thing with 4.2.2. It doesn't even have 4.3 yet and we're about to roll into 4.4. I have a feeling that by the time it gets 4.3, 4.4 will old and 5.0 will be out... if the G2 even gets any additional love. I'm hoping the N5 will help pull some of the weight with the G2 and some stuff gets moved back and forth. But this isn't really a given. I don't want to be in the same boat as the Galaxy Nexus where Verizon or LG doesn't provide updates for stuff like new radios and kernels.
It is a work phone so I have to go with Verizon. The Note 3 sounds great but too big and I have a N7... The G2 just seems like the perfect phone hardware wise and the software has some neat features... but I'll probably jump on AOKP if it ever gets supported. I was actually calling a few Verizon stores in my area and I can pick one up for less than $100 to renew my contract.
What is everyone's thoughts on LG? Have they gotten better at updating their phones? Hopefully with a huge rollout of the G2 they would try to support it a little better. Anyone know when the Samsung S5 is due out?
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I am hearing great reports on the LG phone, especially that it might be the only ofew getting the Kit Kat update on verizon. these are from some dev's and long time Samsung owners. i think a LG thread was created and development started in XDA. i havent used it yet, i have a few months left on my contract. here is the xda link http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2
maybe i will upgrade my wifes phone to LG and secretly swap phones:laugh:
Things that bother me on the G2 is:
Curved sides of the screen = problems with screen protectors
LG's horrible history supporting phones for very long.
4.4 is just a stepping stone so upgrading to 4.4 shouldn't be much of a hassle for any 4.x+ phone. However Android 5.0 will probably require a kernel update which must be supplied from LG.
This is exactly the same problem the Galaxy Nexus is having. Verizon isn't updating the kernel for 4.3+ builds and thus are having radio issues. It works but if you travel, you'll notice your data will never come back once it disappears... until you do a hard reset of course.
So who knows. I've heard nothing but wonderful things about the LG too and they've included lots of functionality into customizing the phone. Pretty much everything can be disabled and changed. It even has built in system-wide theme support.
player911 said:
Things that bother me on the G2 is:
Curved sides of the screen = problems with screen protectors
LG's horrible history supporting phones for very long.
4.4 is just a stepping stone so upgrading to 4.4 shouldn't be much of a hassle for any 4.x+ phone. However Android 5.0 will probably require a kernel update which must be supplied from LG.
This is exactly the same problem the Galaxy Nexus is having. Verizon isn't updating the kernel for 4.3+ builds and thus are having radio issues. It works but if you travel, you'll notice your data will never come back once it disappears... until you do a hard reset of course.
So who knows. I've heard nothing but wonderful things about the LG too and they've included lots of functionality into customizing the phone. Pretty much everything can be disabled and changed. It even has built in system-wide theme support.
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yea you are rite, LG does have a history of not supporting their phones in the long run..maybe you can get a good 2 years out of the LG, just in time for the next release.
player911 said:
Things that bother me on the G2 is:
Curved sides of the screen = problems with screen protectors
LG's horrible history supporting phones for very long.
4.4 is just a stepping stone so upgrading to 4.4 shouldn't be much of a hassle for any 4.x+ phone. However Android 5.0 will probably require a kernel update which must be supplied from LG.
This is exactly the same problem the Galaxy Nexus is having. Verizon isn't updating the kernel for 4.3+ builds and thus are having radio issues. It works but if you travel, you'll notice your data will never come back once it disappears... until you do a hard reset of course.
So who knows. I've heard nothing but wonderful things about the LG too and they've included lots of functionality into customizing the phone. Pretty much everything can be disabled and changed. It even has built in system-wide theme support.
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What bothers me about the G2 is the software. Being used to stock Android, and after reading a bunch of reviews from trusted sources about how the UI that LG put into this new device is quite bloated and ugly. My idea is to buy one of these devices now, and sell it once the Nexus 5 is out and in stock in Europe.
I've been looking up comparisons between the G2, the Galaxy S4, and the HTC One. The latter two are older devices, and if I want to be able to sell it in less than a year, I think the smartest choice would be to get the newer one.
The Note 3 looks incredible, but I'm already having trouble fitting the Galaxy Nexus into my pockets sometimes, and I'm not the kind of person who is constantly carrying a backpack. Maybe I could change that, I've always liked the idea of the S-pen.
In conclusion, I'm undecided between the HTC One and the LG G2.
The HTC One is amazingly built, with it's irresistible alluminum unibody and the speaker/audio quality, and has a plethora of ROMs and customizations to it, but it's already been out for a while, which makes it less profitable if I want to resell it in 6 months.
The LG G2 is brand new, has a better screen, more powerful in terms of processor, but at the same time I'm hearing about lots of issues with the camera, sound and lag. I hope the ROMs and mods from the Verizon G2 will be ported to the international variant, as there are many more available.
Today I'll go look at them in person, and hopefully make my decision aswell.
I hate those decisions, all are good phones, but just have to pick which one feels better. I think to resell down the line, the Samsung phones may hold better value, maybe due to the watch launch.
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I went to the store to buy the Note 3, but I just couldn't use it at all one handed. Because of the huge size, I couldn't even barely get it stable enough in my grip to even remotely reach half of the screen. Plus the lack of Wireless Charging is a pity. I like feather cases and the additional thickness of the Qi backplate would make it not sit well. Plus I have a make-shift Qi Note2 charger pad in my Galaxy Nexus that is crafty. I don't want to have to worry about if the contacts are clean, connecting, working. I just want it to work.
I took home a G2. They had the Blue Incipio Feather case I wanted. Being used to Nexus and AOSP for so long, some of the apps do feel bloated. Email Exchange has a new SMS Sync that was syncing all of my drunk texts to my corporate exchange! I had to quickly disable that feature and delete all my sexy text messages off the email server. I've disabled like 20 different apps. There are TONS of bloat on there. Default ringtone (Boy Choir?) was god awful. You can have up to 7 apps in the Launcher Tray. Making the Font size to smallest gives you that roomy feeling. I don't understand why you would get a big screen when everything is just bigger. I buy a bigger screen to give me more room to move around.
BUT once you sit down with it, adjust the Notification toggles, lockscreen, homescreen, freeze unwanted apps, find a good theme combo (keyboard, SMS, homescreen, lockscreen), some new wallpapers, etc... it really starts to feel like a decent phone.
I DO really like the Memo app, where you can make notes over top any app. At the bar last night we were taking pictures of friends in my group and drawing stupid stuff on them. I can see how it would really be handy.
I also don't know why there are a bizillion icons in the status bar. There is a Signal bar... then a separate 3G/4G icon... then what appears to be some sort of GPS icon that I can't get rid of, AM/PM Clock, battery, alarm, etc. It takes up like half my status bar. I just need 3; Signal, Battery, Clock. Boom.
Most of the floating apps I can't really see myself ever using. I couldn't get the IR Blaster to turn off the Bar TV last night.
Most of the G2 is fluff. Fluffy fluff. Outside from that overlay note app, I'm already thinking about going to a custom rom. The IR Blaster doesn't work on AOSP though which is something I do want to utilize.
It has a pretty bad out of box experience but it is a super nice phone. Once you get rid of all the junk, it starts to come together nicely.
Not giving the G2 a bad review, I'm just used to Nexus Devices and stock Android... I'm used to that and I like that. The Stock UI has a nice feel to it. Very quick and snappy. I'm impressed with the level of customization you have with the device. I would like to see a single general theme app with all of the options. Right now, the theme settings are in there respective places so finding them is a little intense, especially for someone who isn't strong on Android skills. I know my gf probably wouldn't have found the SMS or Keyboard theme settings.
I was a little skeptical last night but it is growing on me now its setup and I'm getting familiar to the different app layouts. I just pray LG doesn't screw me again with Software updates. At least Qualcomm is better at opensourcing their stuff. I know the G2x had lots of problems because of NVidia Tegra 2.
I'm in the same boat. Running my nexus for about 1.5 yrs and looking to upgrade. I have unl. Data w Verizon but as all know vzw sucks w how they bloat and lock their phones. So gar I'm looking/ interested in the note 3, g2 or maybe the HTC one or moto x. Some of the things I want are a bigger chassis...not huge but bigger than the gnex, customizable w ROMs and kernels, timely updates, ect. My cousin has the one but it didn't wow me, but it was a stock unit no customization. The g2 looks great...good size, batt, ect but afraid like others slow w updates. As far as I read on the note 3 it is looked tight. Not a lot of ROM for customization due to Knox I guess..
I think I would love the note 3, bigger, big batt, fast but the lack of development saddens me haha. I was so waiting for the nexus 5 but that small batt honestly is making me sway away from it and the styling isn't to different from the rest of the nex. If new reviews come out saying batt life is much improved I may sway back but for now ...egh. Carrier wise I want a cheaper plan, good coverage ect and really only do maybe on a heavy month 3 gig as I use mostly wifi so I was looking at art. Gonna take a ride today and check them out and see which phone excites me. Any batt life better than my next is an improvement .
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Queries before buying

Hello Prowd G3 Owners,
How are you all?
I was wondering to buy this beautiful phone, but I thought to ask you owners two things which are bothering me very much.
1. Battery Issues. Presently I use S2 and will be switching to G3, If I am getting better battery backup. i dont know, I have read mixed views about battery from websites, so I wanted your personalized views on battery. My usage = When I dont use, I rarely picks up the phone, just to check text messages. But When I use it, I make sure the usage is heavy(Games mostly, or hours of chatting, minimal browsing though).
So kindly assist in this matter.
2. Will there be any need of ROM changing? Presently I am using CM11 on my s2 as I was fed up with touchwiz(yuck),
Even if your answer is yes, then I still not see any development in this sector as compared to other competitors?
3. If you had the opportunity to choose any other phone, what would that be (with similar g3 specs, you can choose g3 also )?
4. Does Quickcircle case provides impact protection?
5. Does LG causes any hassles if you want to replace your damaged screen under one-time screen replacement scheme?
I thank you in advance,
Neeraj.
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Hello Prowd G3 Owners,
How are you all?
I was wondering to buy this beautiful phone, but I thought to ask you owners two things which are bothering me very much.
1. Battery Issues. Presently I use S2 and will be switching to G3, If I am getting better battery backup. i dont know, I have read mixed views about battery from websites, so I wanted your personalized views on battery. My usage = When I dont use, I rarely picks up the phone, just to check text messages. But When I use it, I make sure the usage is heavy(Games mostly, or hours of chatting, minimal browsing though).
So kindly assist in this matter.
Standby time on the LG G3 is immensely good. As you can see from my signature one of my previous phones was the LG G2 and that was the king of battery life for me, both stand by and regular usage. I've been using the G3 for some time now and the battery life matches the G2 which in itself is impressive considering the higher resolution screen. At first i was a bit disappointed but it took a few days/cycles for it to settle.
For instance, on days i get to work at 10am, usually have 2 email accounts pooling every hour, Google services all auto-syncing (Gmail, Calendar, Drive, Keep, Photos backup, etc), Whatsapp, BBM, Weather every 3 hours, etc, i'm usually still at 90% by 2 pm when i go for break. Kill it quite a bit on break with news reading, games, web etc, and still in the 70's when i knock of at 6pm. Kill it some more on the train ride home and in the low 60's by 7.30pm.
2. Will there be any need of ROM changing? Presently I am using CM11 on my s2 as I was fed up with touchwiz(yuck),
Even if your answer is yes, then I still not see any development in this sector as compared to other competitors?
I've always been of the opinion that the best ROM is always stock rooted, and that's what i run on mine. The stock LG G3 ROM is just fine and runs really good. I freeze whatever bloat i don't care for with Titanium Backup. As luck would have it, bootloader unlock (and hence custom recovery needed to flash custom ROMS, if that's your thing) just became available for the LG G3 device-wide. So have at it when the ROMS start flooding in.
3. If you had the opportunity to choose any other phone, what would that be (with similar g3 specs, you can choose g3 also )?
By far, the Sony Z3 or Z3 Compact. Solid battery life, water proof, great camera, etc. Always wanted Sony Xperia devices but sadly they have a phobia for Sprint as a carrier. Nexus 6 only if it was 5.2 inches or less, Moto X 2014 only if it had a better battery (only 100mAh more than 2013 model, yet bigger 5"+ 1080p screen ) and camera. I have the Moto X 2013 currently as well, impressive, but terrible camera and battery could be better.
4. Does Quickcircle case provides impact protection?
Have the case, but don't use it (got it free, definitely wouldn't have paid for it anyway). Like any other case covering your phone it's something that would save it from scratches and nicks and dings if your phone fell out your hands and was otherwise naked. I personally don't like it and use another case.
5. Does LG causes any hassles if you want to replace your damaged screen under one-time screen replacement scheme?
Not sure/don't know about this specifically.
I thank you in advance,
Neeraj.
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If you can find a good price on it, go for it.
1. I have a similar use case as yours, and I've never had any issues with battery so far. I get through a day pretty easily with screen on times of 5-6 hours which is good enough.
2. Stock ROM with minor root based improvements is quite decent with not much lag. I've used Touchwiz before and I find LG stock UI much better than Touchwiz. Ofcourse, fully functional CM & AOSP would be far better and I plan to switch to it immediately when available. The bootloader has only just been bypassed so ROM dev will kick up soon.
3. HTC One m8 or Nexus 6 (depending on how big it actually feels on hand). But I had that choice with M8 while going for the G3 so that's my take on it.
4. Yes and No. Depends on where the impact occurs. The cutout on front leaves that area of screen damage prone but the back is pretty well covered. A little less than a proper case though since the Quick Circle case essentially replaces the back cover.
5. Not sure about that. Thankfully I've not had to deal with them regarding this & hopefully I won't have to.
Thank you.
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If you can find a good price on it, go for it.
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Here prices at online retailers is around 34k after all discounts. That's best in terms of spec/cost ratio.
Also LG India giving free 6 month insurance i guess, circle case and discount on lg g watch worth 10000 INR.
Also can you please post your gaming experience in words, or any performance grudge you hold against g3.
I know no phone is perfect, but I'd like to weigh my options here.
if4ct0r said:
1. I have a similar use case as yours, and I've never had any issues with battery so far. I get through a day pretty easily with screen on times of 5-6 hours which is good enough.
Please tell me more about your experience of gaming on g3? Is it better, worse, or average. I do plan to use this phone for atleast 4 years, if I buy it. Hence, I hope it does not get outdated. What are your views on this? (Know H/W wise it might be, but still my s2 works like a charm on CM11 and is able to play asphalt 8 flawlessly, though on low settings. )
2. Stock ROM with minor root based improvements is quite decent with not much lag. I've used Touchwiz before and I find LG stock UI much better than Touchwiz. Ofcourse, fully functional CM & AOSP would be far better and I plan to switch to it immediately when available. The bootloader has only just been bypassed so ROM dev will kick up soon.
Ohh Ok..
3. HTC One m8 or Nexus 6 (depending on how big it actually feels on hand). But I had that choice with M8 while going for the G3 so that's my take on it.
N6 is quite costly as compared to other nexus devices. Although, it is for the specs its offering, I personally dont feel that s801 soc will be outdated soon enough. One M8 is big, specially those front speakers, added to its physical area. I personally dont like on-screen buttons, so was less oriented towards m8.
4. Yes and No. Depends on where the impact occurs. The cutout on front leaves that area of screen damage prone but the back is pretty well covered. A little less than a proper case though since the Quick Circle case essentially replaces the back cover.
Thanks for the info.
5. Not sure about that. Thankfully I've not had to deal with them regarding this & hopefully I won't have to.
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As for gaming, no complaints here. Handles anything i've thrown at it, Leo's Fortune, Boxtrolls, Manuganu, Skyforce, to name a few.
kyuubisiddhanth said:
Here prices at online retailers is around 34k after all discounts. That's best in terms of spec/cost ratio.
Also LG India giving free 6 month insurance i guess, circle case and discount on lg g watch worth 10000 INR.
Also can you please post your gaming experience in words, or any performance grudge you hold against g3.
I know no phone is perfect, but I'd like to weigh my options here.
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1. Absolutely no problems with gaming performance wise on the G3. The only issue is that is gets heated up if you're playing a games with the brightness cranked up. Personally, I play games at ~50% brightness which is good enough and doesn't heat up as much.
3. Same here. 801 definitely won't get outdated anytime soon, but since you're picking up a new device at full price and planning to keep it for 4 years I'd suggest you wait a bit to get a feel for the N6 atleast before making a decision. As for the M8, yeah I know where you're coming from. I had to decide between the M8 & the G3 too and I went for the G3 mainly because of the much better design at a larger screen size. Although durability wise the M8 will definitely handle some rough usage better than the G3.
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1. Absolutely no problems with gaming performance wise on the G3. The only issue is that is gets heated up if you're playing a games with the brightness cranked up. Personally, I play games at ~50% brightness which is good enough and doesn't heat up as much.
3. Same here. 801 definitely won't get outdated anytime soon, but since you're picking up a new device at full price and planning to keep it for 4 years I'd suggest you wait a bit to get a feel for the N6 atleast before making a decision. As for the M8, yeah I know where you're coming from. I had to decide between the M8 & the G3 too and I went for the G3 mainly because of the much better design at a larger screen size. Although durability wise the M8 will definitely handle some rough usage better than the G3.
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Yea, I was thinking the same but N6 is approximated to cost ~42K INR. While G3 is ~8k less.
My first bike costed 49k. So I dont want to go beyond 35k for a phone as of now. I hope you understand my conundrum.
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As for gaming, no complaints here. Handles anything i've thrown at it, Leo's Fortune, Boxtrolls, Manuganu, Skyforce, to name a few.
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if4ct0r said:
1. Absolutely no problems with gaming performance wise on the G3. The only issue is that is gets heated up if you're playing a games with the brightness cranked up. Personally, I play games at ~50% brightness which is good enough and doesn't heat up as much.
3. Same here. 801 definitely won't get outdated anytime soon, but since you're picking up a new device at full price and planning to keep it for 4 years I'd suggest you wait a bit to get a feel for the N6 atleast before making a decision. As for the M8, yeah I know where you're coming from. I had to decide between the M8 & the G3 too and I went for the G3 mainly because of the much better design at a larger screen size. Although durability wise the M8 will definitely handle some rough usage better than the G3.
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Is there any real user review of the device as whole. (Not of tech sites) on youtube or blogs??
Thanks for help again.

Would you recommend the Nexus?

I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
Thanks
Dan
It's a decent phone and there is still some Dev support. I bought mine about a year ago and have been satisfied. Battery life sucks compared to newer phones signal isn't to great compared to my RAZR. But all in all it having an unlocked BL on Verizon makes it all worth while. I thoroughly enjoy mine and will only move if nexus 6 is unlocked on Verizon.
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I can join my previous speakers. It has a very bad battery, it's lags often in apps and the screen is very worn because of this early AMOLED technologie, BUT if you have only 100€ its one of the better phones. I'm using it right now because my nexus 5 were broken and I really like it because it just works. However if you have $50 more to spend when you should buy the moto g. It has clearly more power and offical support by motorola.
no. this phone is terrible, and i'm currently looking into buying a replacement battery for my S3 since it's been sitting in my drawer and i have no idea where the battery went, plus it's broken
i can probably find some way to fix it on ADB, but if not, i'll just wait until i upgrade then i'll get the oneplus one
seriously this phone sucks, there is nothing to recommend about it
No man dont do it .. phone performance is pretty random, dont know why, sometimes it flies like an S4, sometimes it lagz and freezes like an S1..
I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Maximinus I said:
I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.
rrrrrrredbelly said:
Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.
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Well, web browsing has become hard since 4.4.x. To be honest, KitKat is a mess on this phone. I hope new GPU drivers and 3.4 kernel will help.
If I were you I would buy a Moto G.
I'm using Gnex for a half a year. I bought used. So not because of data plan.
For me Gnex can still give what i need for "normal" daily use - sms, browser, messenger, driving assist, news reading, some games ....
So it depends on your need
best regards
It's a beautiful device, but it's definitely not the best. I absolutely love the unobtrusive design of the front -- just plain black. The phone is the exact right size for me, and the volume and power buttons are in exactly the right place; however the bezels are quite large in comparison to newer phones. This makes the structural integrity of the phone better, but it isn't really nice to me. The back of the phone has a comfortable plastic "grippy" feeling that makes it easy to hold, especially with the curved extrusion at the bottom by the speaker grill.
The speaker is awful, as with all Samsung devices. It's a back-facing speaker that's tiny and easy to cover up. Not much of a problem if you use earphones like I do.
It easily lasts me through a school day, though it only lasts about 4 hours streaming video. Its dual core processor is definitely outdated and consumes far more powererformance than any modern phone.
The screen is on-par with the Galaxy S3 screen, which isn't a compliment. It's low-resolution in comparison to new phones (1280x720), it's hot (as in it actually feels hot) and consumes a heck of a lot of battery very quickly. The colour is amazing, vibrant and simply gorgeous... but, within a few months, you get screen burn-in which is especially noticeable in low light -- speaking of which, the screen in low light is far worse than any IPS with a slightly grainy image, though it does retain a good contrast. Its slightly curved display prevents it from scratching anything facing down and, in my opinion, makes it easier to touch things at the top of the screen.
The phone's radio is only GSM (unless you're going for Sprint or Verizon), so if you're wanting LTE, tough luck. It also doesn't have FM or AM radio if you're into that.
The camera's not the best, but it does the job. The flash is often over-bright, and lacks HDR, motion stabilisation and is only 5 Megapixels. Front camera is 720p.
So why buy this phone? If you can get it really cheap, go for it. If not, go for something newer like the Moto X, Moto G, Nexus 5 or the upcoming Nexus 6 for a similar, updated experience.
Just remember, it's truly an Android modder's dream. It's extremely mod-able with a decent sized community. In my opinion, it is still the best phone I have ever used. I find that just the pure feeling and look of the phone is enough to keep me with it. Also, with recent additions to the phone like F2FS, graphics drivers, new kernels, new ROMs etc., the phone is still very usable for just about everything -- even most gaming.
For $100 i would buy it. The moto g is comparable and faster but almost $100 more. But I think your question is already answered
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bought mine for 70 dollars one month ago, definetily worth it.
I would much rather use an s4 with touchwiz than use a galaxy nexus. The gnex is the second worst android phone that I've ever owned.
You really can't compare a three year old phone to a phone that is just over a year old. Of course the s4 will be better but touchwizz yuck it would probably be just as slow as a galaxy nexus.
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Appreciate everyone's response, thanks
It's a good phone when it was released but the battery life is quite short even though I don't have a lot of apps on it. When the battery life is in the red, it usually last around 5 minutes then it shuts down. I think it was better than than iPhone 4 at its time since it was one of the first phone with a larger screen.
I agree with the other posts.
Honestly, I think CM10 runs amazing on the phone and the signal is actually quite good with that version. 4.4.4 doesn't do well on it for the signal...at least for me. I have been trying many ROMs / Kernels and I have the same luck with them all. I only have mine because I bought it for like $80 on ebay and still have the unlimited plan with Verizon so I don't want to upgrade to a new phone unless I pay the big dollars.
Battery life...is crap like everyone else states. I bought three batteries for this phone for that reason and always have it plugged in, which is why I actually have burn in from my apps.
I own GNex for almost 3 years now and here are few things coming into my mind right now:
Terrible camera
Terrible speaker (Very low volume)
Slow as hell
Worn screen
Incredibly short battery life
Also, with such limited memory multitasking is pretty much not existent if you like installing many apps
Honestly, there is not a single day that I don't want to throw my unit against the wall.
Do yourself a favor and stay away from this peace of junk.
N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us
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I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
Thanks
Dan
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I'm keeping it because I don't have much money on a new phone and there isn't much on the market that really makes me want to spend anything.
The Galaxy Nexus is a really ****ty phone. If it wasn't a Nexus it would get zero respect from me.
I mean for an old and cheap phone, it's probably the best you can buy at this moment but I'd suggest saving a few more dollars and getting something better.
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N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us
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Thanks but on verizon, looks like that gsm only.

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