Question for the Devs - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

ive been messing around making user builds (roms) for the nexus 6 and the pixel xl, and ive gotten comfortable enough to start releasing my work, but before i do, i would like to get my desktop upgraded and actually set up.
Right now my system and /home is on a low rpm western digital hdd.
Im upgrading the pc all the way around, but my questions are regarding the disk drives. I have 2 of the exact same western digital blues, and a sandisk ssd.
western blue 500gb hdd
western blue 500gb hdd
sandisk 125gb ssd
Im aware disk speed is definitely the biggest bottleneck when it comes to building, so Here are my questions.....
How much space do you recommend when building for two devices while making builds weekly?
Do you think i should dedicate my ssd to /home?
Should i put the system on the ssd, and dedicate a hdd to the /home?

It appeared that I couldn't use the ssd for my home directory because (at a rough estimate) I'll be using around 200gb.
I found the best solution that gives me the best results.
I have split the windows and linux system on the ssd, I then ran the two hdd's in raid 0 and slpit the raid for /home and windows data.

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A question for Proffesional ROM builders about the SD Memory

I'm currently using a TP2 and I don't have enough RAM. Part of the reason and I know it's my fault is the customization of the phone with different toys and apps. This is my fault not the phone. So far the phone is working flawlessly.
What I have is over a gig and a half of a 2 gig memory card in my phone completely free. What I would like to do is use the spare memory as RAM, allowing the phone all the necessary space it needs.
If I keep going on this thought, would rebuilding the OS with the sd card as the primary install location work as well. This would give us gigs of space to install and gigs or RAM to work with esp if you have a 6 or 8 gig sd card.
Any thoughts?
slight22 said:
I'm currently using a TP2 and I don't have enough RAM. Part of the reason and I know it's my fault is the customization of the phone with different toys and apps. This is my fault not the phone. So far the phone is working flawlessly.
What I have is over a gig and a half of a 2 gig memory card in my phone completely free. What I would like to do is use the spare memory as RAM, allowing the phone all the necessary space it needs.
If I keep going on this thought, would rebuilding the OS with the sd card as the primary install location work as well. This would give us gigs of space to install and gigs or RAM to work with esp if you have a 6 or 8 gig sd card.
Any thoughts?
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You can't (as the end-user) use a storage card as Virtual RAM.
However, I believe that WinMo 6.5 does allow for virtual RAM to be used through the internal storage, but that will require you cooking the ROM yourself, etc. I've never messed around with that though, since the device I cooked for didn't have a native nk.exe. The TP2 does, however, so you can experiment away.
And remember, RAM = Program Memory, the space where currently running programs temporarily store their information for quick read access (Random Access Module).
Don't confuse it with Storage Space, which is where data is permanently stored. I think you understand the difference.
Thank you for the benefit of the doubt lol. Yes I do understand the difference thats why i was thinking if the SD memory could in essence be used to build the OS, because it is no different that the ROM in the sole exception that it's easier to remove.
But also in that same sense (and this might be a stretch) Vista is capable of using a removable memory stick as virtual ram to speed up your PC's functionality. If that is possible there, and you've got a 8 gig SD card in your phone, splitting it off for virtual RAM is hopefully possible.
Maybe even think of it this was. 9 gig SD card, almost like partitioning a hard drive. 3 setup for virtual RAM, 3 setup as storage, 3 setup for ROM access to load the OS.
Or am i thinking WAY to far outside the box of possibilities?
slight22 said:
Thank you for the benefit of the doubt lol. Yes I do understand the difference thats why i was thinking if the SD memory could in essence be used to build the OS, because it is no different that the ROM in the sole exception that it's easier to remove.
But also in that same sense (and this might be a stretch) Vista is capable of using a removable memory stick as virtual ram to speed up your PC's functionality. If that is possible there, and you've got a 8 gig SD card in your phone, splitting it off for virtual RAM is hopefully possible.
Maybe even think of it this was. 9 gig SD card, almost like partitioning a hard drive. 3 setup for virtual RAM, 3 setup as storage, 3 setup for ROM access to load the OS.
Or am i thinking WAY to far outside the box of possibilities?
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Eh, this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445) will have all and enough information for you
Post 2 discusses Virtual Memory. Yea, I don't know what all that mumbo-jumbo means, since I never cooked for one of the newer, nk.exe WM6.5 compatible devices. But you'll find all the info on the new WM6.5 ROM's and cooking it, etc, on that thread. Enjoy the hefty reading!

Help Choosing External Memory?

Hi everyone, first post. I am a proud owner of the Archos 43 IT. So, I recently acquired the usb host cable from Deal Extreme.
Now, I only have two usb stick (8, and 16gb) neither of which work. My first intention was to put all of wikipedia on one flash drive (wikipedia is about 14.8 gb) so I could have everything on a portable screen. My second intention was to get an external hard drive (large capacity for movies on the HDTV), but there is a looot of misconception of what kind of drives work (NFTS, USB powered, etc) so I would love someone to spell out two things: What sixteen gigabyte usb drives are confirmed to work, and what sort of hard drive would the community recommend?
Thanks in advance.
Does the drive matter, or is it more the format of the drive? I have a bunch of USB drives that are all formatted either FAT32 or NTFS and they all seem to work.
I have not tried a external hard drive yet...
Well both of mine are fat32. I think its more an issue of powering the drives. From what I understand the Archos doesn't really give all that much juice to what's plugged in the host.
Mr. Raven'sFjord said:
Well both of mine are fat32. I think its more an issue of powering the drives. From what I understand the Archos doesn't really give all that much juice to what's plugged in the host.
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is your cable in working condition? you can try putting an external HDD and power the HDD with an external source to see if it works
redname said:
is your cable in working condition? you can try putting an external HDD and power the HDD with an external source to see if it works
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Ah, yes it works just fine. I'v been using a USB keyboard with a trackball via the adapter, and I just plugged in my brother's external hard drive with a wall adapter (I don't have an external hd), and it worked great. So its just the flash drives, I just want to know if anyone has a 16gb drive they own that works via usb host.
Okay, here is a list of flash drives I've personally used that work without issue:
OCZ Diesel 4GB
Kingston Data Traveler 16GB
OCZ Rally2 8GB (Dual channel)
Corsair Flash Voyager 8GB
Sandisk Cruzer 1GB
Lexar 1GB
Here is a list of external hard drives/enclosures I've tested that work without issue:
Seagate FreeAgent Go
Metal Gear Box IDE Enclosure
Venus DS IDE Enclosure
Rosewill RS-358-S SATA I/II Enclosure
Here is a list of NAS drives I've tested that work without issue:
DataRobotics Drobo-FS
Buffalo Terrastation II
Hopefully this helps.
ExploreMN said:
Okay, here is a list of flash drives I've personally used that work without issue:
Kingston Data Traveler 16GB
Hopefully this helps.
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Hi, this does help. However, it leads to another question: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Kingston+Data+Traveler&x=15&y=22#/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=kingston+datatraveler+16&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Akingston+datatraveler+16
There seems to be a lot of variations on the data traveler 16gb. Would you mind telling me which one you personally have?
Mr. Raven'sFjord said:
Hi, this does help. However, it leads to another question: There seems to be a lot of variations on the data traveler 16gb. Would you mind telling me which one you personally have?
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Holy buckets...had no idea there were so many versions. LOL.
Well, it says its a Data Traveler 2.0 under the hardware IDs. I don't think they even sell this model anymore. I bought it from Microcenter.com at the time.
Have you tried a micro sd card reader dongle with a 16GB micro sd card?
That's the solution I've been using and it has been working fine with my 43
ExploreMN said:
Okay, here is a list of flash drives I've personally used that work without issue:
OCZ Diesel 4GB
Kingston Data Traveler 16GB
OCZ Rally2 8GB (Dual channel)
Corsair Flash Voyager 8GB
Sandisk Cruzer 1GB
Lexar 1GB
Here is a list of external hard drives/enclosures I've tested that work without issue:
Seagate FreeAgent Go
Metal Gear Box IDE Enclosure
Venus DS IDE Enclosure
Rosewill RS-358-S SATA I/II Enclosure
Here is a list of NAS drives I've tested that work without issue:
DataRobotics Drobo-FS
Buffalo Terrastation II
Hopefully this helps.
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Well according to your signature you have a 101 tablet, which has a full-size USB port that delivers more power to the device and has much wider drive compatibility. The smaller devices (43 and 70) provide less USB power and few devices work with them.
We need to get a list going of confirmed working peripherals with each device...
Mr. Raven'sFjord said:
Now, I only have two usb stick (8, and 16gb) neither of which work. My first intention was to put all of wikipedia on one flash drive (wikipedia is about 14.8 gb) so I could have everything on a portable screen.
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Everytime I see this I trip over the line that wikipedia is 14.8 gigs. I know this is totally off-topic, but wha!??! ("the compressed file enwiki-20100130-pages-meta-history.xml.bz2 is over 280.3 GB in size (in 7z format is over ~31 GB), and decompresses to several (>5) Terabytes of text.")
My mind, it is boggled.
Best gain from external memory
there are interesting posts, in the development thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934087
seems that best performing cards on archos 101, after several tests, are
Transcent 8gb/6/0x4142
Lexar 16gb/6/0x4245
which approximate the internal card performance

[Q] Lost in space. Or where is my missing sd-card space?

I just got my GNex few days back and I'm new to this exotic way it manage its data.
I installed some apps and some games that are have downloaded their data to the sd-card and some other stuff like nandroid backups and some roms.
The thing is when I get into Settings-Storage the numbers just does't fit. I'm missing close to 3GB of space.
Where is my lost space here?
That's normal.. 16GB really means 13.3GB after all the system stuff, etc is taken.
Just like how on an iPhone/iPod 32GB is actually around 29GB of user-useable storage.
This part OK and I'm fine with this.
Try summing up the numbers to see if you get 13.33GB.
I'm getting 10.37GB when summing everything there including the free space, so there's something very weird here.
It is not so much that it is missing, its the way its measured. Manufactures measure hard drive space one way, OS's read hard drive space in different ways.
Computers do not internally represent HDD or memory capacity in powers of 1024; reporting it in this manner is just a convention.[39] Creating confusion, operating systems report HDD capacity in different ways. Most operating systems, including the Microsoft Windows operating systems use the powers of 1024 convention when reporting HDD capacity, thus an HDD offered by its manufacturer as a 1 TB drive is reported by these OSes as a 931 GB HDD. Apple's current OSes, beginning with Mac OS X 10.6 (“Snow Leopard”), use powers of 1000 when reporting HDD capacity, thereby avoiding any discrepancy between what it reports and what the manufacturer advertises.
Read more here
Hope this helps
All the sizes are reported by the same software and are in the same units: total space, free space and so are most of the other categories.
I still don't get how can it be.
Total reported by the phone: 13.33GB
Apps: 2.66GB
Pictures, Videos: 1.41GB
Audio: 20KB
Downloads: 88KB
Misc: 2.63GB
Free: 3.67GB
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Total: 10.37GB
AFAIK 13.33GB != 10.37GB

[Q] mSATA SSD in TAB 3 7.0

I just had a question. I dont have any solid data on this yet but is there a mSATA SSD in the TAB 3? If there is would it be possible to open the tablet and swap it out? I know it wont be that easy..
I have seen 64GB mSATA SSD's go for cheap and 128GB mSATA's for that matter.. The cost of SSD have fallen tremendously so.. If all it takes is to make a backup of the OS on to a MSD card then make the swap reinstall the OS then that would be awesome..
I tried searching to see if anyone has done anything similar on here but it seems like everyone sticks with the hardware and mods the crap out of the software..
Any help would be great thanks again.
Tim
tooshea45 said:
I just had a question. I dont have any solid data on this yet but is there a mSATA SSD in the TAB 3? If there is would it be possible to open the tablet and swap it out? I know it wont be that easy..
I have seen 64GB mSATA SSD's go for cheap and 128GB mSATA's for that matter.. The cost of SSD have fallen tremendously so.. If all it takes is to make a backup of the OS on to a MSD card then make the swap reinstall the OS then that would be awesome..
I tried searching to see if anyone has done anything similar on here but it seems like everyone sticks with the hardware and mods the crap out of the software..
Any help would be great thanks again.
Tim
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No it won't work because mobile devices use a kind of storage that is called flash storage or nand storage
The memory in our devices is soldered directly to the board not in a msata socket for them to do so would make the device too thick. And currently 8 16 32 is the sizes available the difference is in the density of the chip the put on the board. Think of it as the soldered a micro SD card to the board. That said I have seen some cheap tablets just use a second sdcard as system memory.

2017 Nvidia Shield Pro 500gb vs 2017 Nvidia Shield TV 16gb with SSD which is faster?

Hello everyone,
I am super excited to get a Shield TV in the very near future. I just want to get the fastest experience possible with the most space. At first, I wanted the Pro with 500GB, but after reading and hearing about other people's experience, the 16gb standard version with the external SSD like Samsung 850 EVO and it's fast.
So which would be better do you guys think? I know the 2017 hasn't come out with the SSHD yet, so we have no way to compare the SSHD vs a SSD, but I have a feeling that using the SSD as the internal drive for the 16gb Shield might be faster than the Pro 500GB internal. It would be only $70 more to buy Shield 16gb ($200 + $170 = $370) vs Pro ($300). :good:
Your thoughts gents (and maybe ladies)?
Thanks,
-Marcus
Yes it's slow to format, and it's even slower to install from what I gathered though a SSD would only be a breath faster than the normal SSHD in the Shield TV. My guess here is the SATA interface is the Bottleneck here? But, it seems somewhat comical to compare either to eMMC though.

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