Fire 7 (2017) vs Nexus 7 (2012) - Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Seeing how Amazon will have the 2017 model for only $30 coming up soon - can anyone help me assess whether the new Amazon Fire 7 could outperform an aging Nexus 7 (2012 model)?
I don't use the Nexus much anymore - only really as a baby monitor. But it'd be nice to get hooked into the Amazon ecosystem since I'm already a Prime member. I'm also assuming I'll get a little better battery life since the other tablet is so old now.
Thanks!
Jay

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What tablet would you buy?

Currently have PA 3.1 Galaxy Nexus. I love it. Thinking I should get a tablet. Even though I just bought a laptop. Which one though. I'm thinking nexus 10. What are your thoughts.
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Do you want a big tablet? I personally prefer the 7-8" form factor as it's easier to handle and carry around. Or you can wait a few months, I imagine Google will be releasing a new tablet during I/O in may.
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Hmm.. I would compare the latest ipad vs nexus 10.
I think i would go for a nexus 10. Android lover , aka the NEXUS *****
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If I were to replace my Motorola Xoom tablet now, I would get the nexus 10. Although with a tablet its a purchase that lasts you quite a long time. My Xoom is 2 years old and is still functioning perfectly fine for all my tasks.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 or note 8.0. Software is good and so is specifications
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Once you go Nexus....
I got myself a Nexus 10. Felt right. Feels right.
I also share 18t's point of view.
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My Xoom is 2 years old and is still functioning perfectly fine for all my tasks.
I also own XOOM (running TeamEos 4.2.1 155 nightly build) and am perfectly happy with it; however, I also got the itch for latest and greatest, and bought an N10 (running stock 4.2.2 stock and rooted) and love it as well.
If you're a GED fan, you can't go wrong w/ N10.
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Do you want a big tablet? I personally prefer the 7-8" form factor as it's easier to handle and carry around. Or you can wait a few months, I imagine Google will be releasing a new tablet during I/O in may.
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This is a good thing to keep in mind, if Google keeps with their annual update yearly on Nexus line, the N7 and N10 could be having updated versions rolling out. Or perhaps something completely different. Perhaps they don't plan on updating them at all.
That said, for a tablet you have to consider a few things you want. First what size do you want? Then what do you want to do with said tablet? What accessories do you want for your tablet? What is your budget? What OS do you want (perhaps you want a different OS, to experience different apps from a different ecosystem)? What sort of connectivity do you want (HDMI, 3G/4G...etc)? These all could point you to different options.
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This is a good thing to keep in mind, if Google keeps with their annual update yearly on Nexus line, the N7 and N10 could be having updated versions rolling out. Or perhaps something completely different. Perhaps they don't plan on updating them at all.
That said, for a tablet you have to consider a few things you want. First what size do you want? Then what do you want to do with said tablet? What accessories do you want for your tablet? What is your budget? What OS do you want (perhaps you want a different OS, to experience different apps from a different ecosystem)? What sort of connectivity do you want (HDMI, 3G/4G...etc)? These all could point you to different options.
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All valid points. Very much a nexus fan. Can't put a price limit on great tech. Android os obviously. Doesn't matter which one as root and custom ROM is a must. Size doesn't matter. Haha. WiFi connectivity is fine but 3 or 4g is an option too. Really just wanted to know what the census was out there.
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Ask yourself, what you want that tablet for?
After buying mine, i find it kinda under used...
I don't need a tablet, but it would be good for the whole family, especially video call and acting as an HTPC. I've decided that it must be able to play HD videos smoothly and have physical HDMI output. This unfortunately rule out the Nexus 7 which I really like the form factor of. The Nexus 10 is overkill for my needs.
So I probably will pick up the Kindle Fire HD, but seem the rom development progress slowly and Amazon OS seems dreadful from an AOSP user. But the price point and HDMI output make it the main contender.
Maybe I'll just go for the Asus TF300T since it's only $50 more used, but I have Asia tablet in the past, good hardware but the proprietary charging port is a turn off.
I'm not ruling out Chinese tablets with rk3066 cpu as well.
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jmileti said:
Currently have PA 3.1 Galaxy Nexus. I love it. Thinking I should get a tablet. Even though I just bought a laptop. Which one though. I'm thinking nexus 10. What are your thoughts.
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I use my phone a hell lot more than I use my tablet. My nexus 7 feels like a big phone that cannot make phone calls. I have all my games on it though.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 or note 8.0. Software is good and so is specifications
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same here. i at least had the gn10.1 until two weeks ago. sold it and got a ATIV 500t.
i love the spen and the multiwindow is wonderful on the note. i may end up selling my nook hd+ later and get the gn8. i hate that i've become a samsung fanboy, but until someone else makes something better it's what i'll be getting. don't get me started on asus tablets quality control...
so, spen was more important than screen res for me.
Well while looking for a suitable 7" tablet, I went ahead and picked up a Kindle Fire HD and is underwhelmed even after rooting it. Unfortunately the ones on display at WorseBuy are in demonstration mode which lock down everything.. But I didn't want to spend more than $200. Other choices I looked at were:
-Nexus 7 is out of the question due to no HDMI out. I knew this device would be perfect except for this one factor.
-I could order some pretty high performance RK3066 chip Chinese tablet for under $100, but skip them because they have poor built quality, lots of people with battery and charging issues, sketchy to no warranty and probably not much development.
-Other choices available are the Nook tablet which I'm impressed with the high res screen, but quick search shows CM10 currently perform poorly on it and having to fork out $40 for an HDMI adapter.
-Same with Samsung and Asus tablets which also use proprietary ports and needing adapters purchase that I dislike.
-The Acer A110 tablet almost match with what I want with the bonus of microSD slot, except the for horrid screen quality and low resolution. There were the Lenovo tablet which seems to have nice build, but $300.
Main reason to get the Kindle Fire HD was the stereo speaker and standard usb and hdmi ports. Interestingly, this device have the same CPU spec as the Galaxy Nexus, yet the XBMC hardware accelerated test build playback movies smoother on my Nexus than this tablet which stuttered even with 720p MKV videos. This might be a deal killer, but its due to the poor optimization done by Amazon. Probably the only hope of my keeping this tablet would be for a working CM10.1 version for it. My disappoint of the performance of this device is mainly due to the software itself, the hardware are good. Its my first experience with Amazon AppStore and I think its junk compared to the PlayStore(though I know I can side load the PlayStore to this). It seem to be a wall downed garden like Apple, except in this case the interface sucks too.
I am very happy with the quality when connected to the TV however, along with stereo speakers, screen quality and front camera and mic for video calling is nice.
I have a Xoom running cm10.1-nightly now, if I would need to buy a new tablet I would go for a Nexus 10.
Multiple users is probably the best thing that has happened for Android on tablets. The only way to be guaranteed to have this feature is to buy a Nexus.
7" might be too small, but you might get used to it over time.
Well I returned the Kindle Fire HD and got the Nexus 7, naturally. Just fed up with the 'Amazon OS', and even after making my own 'fastboot cable' to be able to boot the device into fastboot mode and install TWRP, installed PlayStore, the device is still very limited and looks like there aren't much developers interested. My chance of ever buying another Amazon device is zero because of their locked down OS design. Too bad because it have a better screen, speaker and seem more durable than the Nexus 7 with hdmi out.
I also saw an Asus Memo Pad Smart 10 for $299 at the store with Tegra3 also, it use standard microUSB port and standard micro-HDMI out and microSD slot, amazing combo, its very rare to find a device with all these standard ports without all the proprietary craps. But being 10" its just not as portable and comfortable for me. I'm just getting the Nexus 7 to be sure I'm happy with the software and developer community, but I'm definitely checking on the development of this device also.

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Does the new Nexus 7 have an IR Blaster to control TVs? I haven't checked yet
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Nope.
negative. that along with a micro sd port and a flash for the camera would have made this perfect. i still love it more than any other tablet out there though
I agree that would have made it even better. But I am very happy with it as it is
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Why Nexus 7 over Samsung Galaxy tab 3 ?

I need some help on deciding which tab to get? Already have a Ipad but like the Android platform better. Why ot why not would you get a Nexus 7 over the Samsung Galaxy 3 ?
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I need some help on deciding which tab to get? Already have a Ipad but like the Android platform better. Why ot why not would you get a Nexus 7 over the Samsung Galaxy 3 ?
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Screen: nexus7
cpu: nexus7
gpu: nexus7
ram: nexus7
battery: nexus7
OS: nexus7
sd slot: samsung tab 3
hardware keys: samsung tab 3
camera: nexus7
i would highly recommend buying nexus7, its almost perfect and can run any game/watch any movie at really high definition (it also support 4k)
the only tablet wich can battle against nexus7 is tegra note type tablets (hp slate 7 extreme, tegra 4 proccesing tabs) but they also have poor screen quality.
i also thought of kindle fire hdx but it has fork OS and you dont have google play.
so yes, nexus 7 owns all of them.
The 7" Tab 3 also doesn't seem to have any hdmi capability. There is a voice capable model 3 though, if that's your thing.
On the much cheaper side, I still like the Hisense Pro I bought for my girlfriend. $130! Sd card, mini hdmi slot, ok camera, good battery life, fast and smooth,... I really only like 3/4g 7" tablets (have a T-Mobile 7.0+) but I still want to get my own!
I was faced with a similar decision a month ago when I finally decided to upgrade from the HTC Flyer (Best Buy WiFi model) I had received as a late xmas gift at the beginning of this year. BEST DECISION EVER!
After getting the Galaxy S Relay 4G as a b-day gift when my myTouch 4G Slide crapped out (and the MT4GS was a pretty damn decent phone, itself), I began to REALLY DISLIKE touchwiz (Sammy's ui....sluggish, slow, crash-prone). So that's when I decided against getting another Samsung device. Sure, a tab 3 would have been more compatible with my phone, but after going through the DAUNTING task of rooting a Samsung device (and let's admit, it IS a bit of a pain), I wanted something easier to customize.
Not only does the N7 2013 kick the CRAP out of the tab 7 (and even the tab 8), as far as hardware goes, it's easier to unlock, root, & load custom ROMs (though, I AM a CM fanboy); is UBER portable (hell, even with the smart case I got for it, the N7 STILL fits in my winter coat or pants pocket); and gets updates FIRST directly from Google.
Word of advice: get it from RadioShack, if you can! I bought the N7v2 from my local Shack, and 6 days later, half the screen flat out GLITCHED. So, here I am on my way to work in the morning, calling the Shack to see if they had one I could exchange for. The agent said he didn't........BUT could get one there but 2pm. Got off of work around 1230pm, I called to check the status AND IT WAS ALREADY THERE! The exchange went with out a hitch. I even bought the extended warranty I was so impressed. Get it from them, too.
Now, I do have the 16gb wifi version, cuz I would tether it my phone, but hey to each their own.
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Screen: nexus7
cpu: nexus7
gpu: nexus7
ram: nexus7
battery: nexus7
OS: nexus7
sd slot: samsung tab 3
hardware keys: samsung tab 3
camera: nexus7
i would highly recommend buying nexus7, its almost perfect and can run any game/watch any movie at really high definition (it also support 4k)
the only tablet wich can battle against nexus7 is tegra note type tablets (hp slate 7 extreme, tegra 4 proccesing tabs) but they also have poor screen quality.
i also thought of kindle fire hdx but it has fork OS and you dont have google play.
so yes, nexus 7 owns all of them.
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Looking at the screen is better but using it probably isn't ?
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desairs said:
Looking at the screen is better but using it probably isn't ?
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Actually, this second unit I got has no issue
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Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire HDX 7"

Getting a tablet for Christmas. These two tablets got my eye in the 7" tablet market. I love pure nexus devices. But, I noticed that the hdx has some crazy specs! Was wondering which one I should get? Not a fan of Fire 3.0, but later on I think the HDX will get some nice rom development. But, again the nexus 7 comes with kit kat and already has a unlocked bootloader. Also, it has access to almost all of amazon'a features, as amazon does not with googles cool stuff. Help me out here guys! I'm on the fence!
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Getting a tablet for Christmas. These two tablets got my eye in the 7" tablet market. I love pure nexus devices. But, I noticed that the hdx has some crazy specs! Was wondering which one I should get? Not a fan of Fire 3.0, but later on I think the HDX will get some nice rom development. But, again the nexus 7 comes with kit kat and already has a unlocked bootloader. Also, it has access to almost all of amazon'a features, as amazon does not with googles cool stuff. Help me out here guys! I'm on the fence!
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If you want an android tablet, get the nexus. Amazon really locked down the kindle with their OS, as you stated, google integration is a pain.
The HDX was made to be a consumption device for people who use solely the amazon ecosystem. I think the choice is clear

N7 2013 still best 7in tablet for $200?

I've got a 1st-gen N7 that I just sold on eBay, and am looking to replace it.
I'm looking around for other 7 inch options, and honestly it's not looking like the N7 2nd-gen can be beat. Is there another tablet out there for $200 with the level of ROM/mod support and hardware capabilities to match the N7 2nd-gen?
I'm all ears, as a Nexus owner.
There is no match to it. The key point is not the price it's the size. At that size there is no tablet that is powerful enough, supported this much and good looking.
And I doubt there will ever be as the market going towards to a 9" size and 4:3 ratio.
So if you are OK with not getting the newest CPU and GPU, it's still best in it's own way.
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nickmv said:
I've got a 1st-gen N7 that I just sold on eBay, and am looking to replace it.
I'm looking around for other 7 inch options, and honestly it's not looking like the N7 2nd-gen can be beat. Is there another tablet out there for $200 with the level of ROM/mod support and hardware capabilities to match the N7 2nd-gen?
I'm all ears, as a Nexus owner.
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I'd also consider the LG V500. Quite alot of bloat to initially contend with but better specs than the Nexus 7 under the hood. 3 years ago you'd be mad to touch anything LG but in the past 2 years they have really pulled the socks up. For my phone, I went from the Nexus 5 to the LG G2 and dont regret it even though many Nexus owners may consider it a downgrade.
Staples has been selling the 16gb for around $100 and the 32gb for $119. The prices online do not reflect this but from what I hear, these figures ring up at register. Hard to beat the Nexus 7 2013 at retail prices so this deal is a no-brainer!
I just dusted off my 2013 N7 after almost a year of not using it and I'm pretty surprised at how well it's held up. If you can get a good deal on it, definitely pull the trigger. Other tablets to consider are the Nvidia Shield tablet, which is an amazing piece of tech, and also the Dell Venue 8 7000 series. The Dell is more expensive, but man is it gorgeous. If you are willing to step outside the Android world, the Dell Venue 8 Pro is an 8" Windows 8.1 tablet that is amazingly powerful for its price. It runs FULL windows so you can install anything on it that you can install on a Windows desktop. I have it, and it's probably my favorite tablet.

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