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I'm on T-Mo in the US (who doesn't have the hermes/tytn) and I use an unlocked/unbranded hermes/tytn. Does anyone know if htc will release an official upgrade without having to go through a carrier?
I'm sure they will, seems as though pretty much everyone that can upgrade, will be.
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This has already been announced by HTC.
However, I have it on good authority that there won't be any competing with the US carriers, that is to say, the carriers will be given the opportunity to release their ROMS on the carrier branded devices first, then HTC will release theirs.
It would actually be faster to release them from HTC first, but they don't want to anger their alliance partners.
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This has already been announced by HTC.
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Has HTC really announced this? Is there a link for it? Do you know the date when they're proposing to do this? I also have the Dash and upgraded it over the weekend. I actually don't see that many great improvements on it and the ones that are require that your Exchange Server be 2007, which my company is not moving to any time soon. We're still on 2003 sp2 and until they see a need for the change, they're likely to wait. However, there are some things that are definitely worth it.
I tried searching on HTC's website, but no luck.
Ok, sorry, i just found it using google. I saw it on engadget.
silverfox0214 said:
This has already been announced by HTC.
However, I have it on good authority that there won't be any competing with the US carriers, that is to say, the carriers will be given the opportunity to release their ROMS on the carrier branded devices first, then HTC will release theirs.
It would actually be faster to release them from HTC first, but they don't want to anger their alliance partners.
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I talked with a tech support guy at AT&T and asked about the WM6 upgrade and he said they will direct people to the manufactures website to download the upgrade.
Hi, where can i find all the planned updates for the desire? and is FroYo is really different than 2.1?
HTC have not published any sort of roadmap for future updates, so your best bet is to go to your nearest psychic, and ask them!
And to answer your second question: Yes.
Regards,
Dave
June the 23rd ... thats the date we are all freed from 2.1.. LOLO!!
But then you have to throw Orange / O2 etc etc in the pot.. so to be honest ...
look on the forum .. and either get a new rom or wait till next year !!!!
23rd June has only been stated by a member on here - there's no guarantee that either him or the person he spoke to is telling the truth.
Unless the guy knew the iPhone 4 was coming out then
EddyOS said:
Unless the guy knew the iPhone 4 was coming out then
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HAHA.. this is funny... if it was true, Froyo update comes in the same time with iPhone 4.
dgattenb said:
June the 23rd ... thats the date we are all freed from 2.1.. LOLO!!
But then you have to throw Orange / O2 etc etc in the pot.. so to be honest ...
look on the forum .. and either get a new rom or wait till next year !!!!
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Sorry im kinda lost in translation here whats orange/o2 and why will i throw it? Lol
So basically the 720p, divx playback is just rumors?
So htc will just give us froyo then discontinue the updates and support?
First, Google makes the Android OS, so they'll release 2.2 (Froyo).
Then HTC add their own front-end to it, called Sense UI.
Finally, Orange, 3, Vodaphone and so on add their own tweaks (and rubbish apps) on top.
Each of those additional steps takes extra time, so basically Nexus One users will get it first, unbranded Desire users will have to wait a while for the HTC version, then others will have to wait even longer for the network versions.
If HTC go on the offensive with 2.2 on the 23rd i'll be laughing evilly over here. tbh I think HTC need to get this update out as simply put Sales will fall. the race between the two companies will be incredibly close. HTC need to make sure it's best hand is on the table. and keep there core elements separate and upgradable on the fly.
HTC will just release another dirge of handsets and forget the Desire. Am I being cynical??
Nope,
but with an official, yes will update it, with a possible date i'm hopeful.
i see.. too bad i live in the philippines so i will not get the updates from the mobile ops in other countries..
so the divx and 720p are just rumors?
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HTC will just release another dirge of handsets and forget the Desire. Am I being cynical??
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I don't think you're far off with that assumption, my previous phone was a touch HD their former flagship model, it got one lame excuse of an update that did more harm than good, they kind of [email protected] us over with the 6.5 update that brings a stable and fast build, gave some lame excuse about users not wanting an update anyway
That made me not wanting to buy an HTC ever again, if only the desire wasn't the best android phone avaible at the time and my contract wasn't up for renewal, I wouldn't have consider another HTC.
According to a post on official blog of Polish service provider ORANGE, HTC is due to release the Froyo update for Desire in August 2010.
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According to a post on official blog of Polish service provider ORANGE, HTC is due to release the Froyo update for Desire in August 2010.
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and the link to that blog is: www . blog . tp . pl/wojciechjabczynski/entry/pragnienie_będzie_w_czerwcu
(sorry for messy link - new user)
Use translate if you like, or here's my awesome translation of:
"HTC poinformował nas, że umożliwi klientom upgrade systemu w okolicach sierpnia."
"HTC informed us, that it will provide system upgrade for it's clients around august"
diablous said:
If HTC go on the offensive with 2.2 on the 23rd i'll be laughing evilly over here. tbh I think HTC need to get this update out as simply put Sales will fall. the race between the two companies will be incredibly close. HTC need to make sure it's best hand is on the table. and keep there core elements separate and upgradable on the fly.
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It doesnt matter anymore. HTC already lost this battle. HTC desire cant stand versus an Iphone 4.
Balos said:
It doesnt matter anymore. HTC already lost this battle. HTC desire cant stand versus an Iphone 4.
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Yes throw your phones in the bins everyone, theyre useless now.
No. I just wish Id waited. Wanted Divx support and 720p. Well since I cant get that on Desire nor Iphone. I take the later cuz it is simple better.
We are only customer... buy and enjoy it
The way I see it:
I purchased an awesome Desire my first HTC phone of many. I did not expect plenty of updates but do expect updates to solve issues.
If I dont get any updates then fine as my handest runs like a dream. I dont have any issues and dont need any solving (well only user error)
Surely good buisness is to release a new handset rather than offering new roms to exsiting customers. As long as problem solving updates are done im happy and surely you cannot slate HTC for this.
If you purchased a Ferrari and then they release a new engine, sat nav, bluetooth, leather etc you cannot expect a free upgrade as then you wont purchase the new model!
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My experience with HTC (tornado, wizard, blackstone) are that they dont update the software. You have to rely on hacked roms for new updates.
This could be a microsoft-problem and since I now have my eyes on android I wonder if HTC will keep updating the desire...
Still no word on the froyo-update...
This alone could be an argument for buying nexus instead even if its uglied both in hardware and gui.
What do you think about this?
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My experience with HTC (tornado, wizard, blackstone) are that they dont update the software. You have to rely on hacked roms for new updates.
This could be a microsoft-problem and since I now have my eyes on android I wonder if HTC will keep updating the desire...
Still no word on the froyo-update...
This alone could be an argument for buying nexus instead even if its uglied both in hardware and gui.
What do you think about this?
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I had a Touch Pro, and since MS is the developer I would blame them not HTC for updating MS software. HTC did actually update the Touch Pro a while ago, and a second update of Winmo, should be released in due time. But I would still blame MS for their crappy 6.5 Winmo OS.
According to HTC, will Froyo come some where after Today and 12 weeks ahead. I guess that it will come rather sooner than later. And if somebody cant wait for offical OTA updates, root the device and update to Froyo.
Apparently the 23rd of June thing leaked by one of the support staff was tosh (supported by the fact that the date has been and gone and no Froyo yet!). One of HTC's spokes-people said at Google I/O that...
“We are working hard with our partners to update the HTC Sense experience on Froyo and distribute it to our customers as fast as possible. We expect to release updates for several of our 2010 models including Desire, Legend and Wildfire beginning in Q3″
Being as this is some super speedy new kernel I think its wise that they test their Sense UI to bits before issuing the update
That aside...GIVE ME 2.2 NOW!!!
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Still no word on the froyo-update...
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What do you mean no word? They've confirmed that it is coming, but not given a precise timescale.
Past Froyo, I wouldn't expect further updates, but I suppose there is a slim chance we'll get Gingerbread. However, since Google will be moving to yearly OS updates after that, I can't see HTC providing anything beyond that - the economics of it just don't make any sense.
Regards,
Dave
Can you update with hacked roms and get everying working with the hardware (and just loose the gui) or is it like i remembered with the wizard, problems with drivers to the camera etc.. ?
If not i guess I could transform the desire-hardware into a fully updated gingerbread-nexus in future.
Given that the OS is open source, barring specific hardware requirements, there's no reason why later versions of AOSP Android couldn't be ported to the Desire. Unlike WinMo phones, we always have the option of compiling up Android to suit the hardware.
Regards,
Dave
Ok, how many threads are going to be like this???
Yes you can flash to froyo now and loose sense ui, give a look at development section and/or use search or even google search. HTC didnt officially stated anywhere yet that Froyo is coming to Desire @blabla... However there was a leak about Froyo, which was miscommunication and actually 23rd of June was the date when Google announced the release of code of Froyo to everyone. So from that date HTC is able to work on Froyo.
And look with help of search i was able to find this http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/ and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713588
Of course they forget about old devices, Touch HD and all those other devices are outdated. I had a TD2 and it got the free WM6.5 update but after that it was DEAD for HTC.
Dude, read the threads around here. As of today HTC has officially said 2.2 will come in Q3 of this year.
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I had a TD2 and it got the free WM6.5 update but after that it was DEAD for HTC.
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Not entirely true, the TD2 did get a Sense 2.5 after the promised WM 6.5 update. After that the TD2 was pretty much dead for HTC.
yeah they do, its hard to get support for older devices lol
Im hoping that as long as google continue to update the nexus, HTC will update Desire, Anyway what I read gingerbread is trying to clean up the UI's so there will be no need for manufacturers UI's, This will make updating in the futher alot easier I guess and possible updates will be pushed for longer even thought it will change to yearly, Alot of people are stuck with the same phone for around 2 years
Dear Paulius,
Hi Paulius, thanks for getting in touch with us about all your questions.
Firstly, HTC do not control this application, the person in the thread referred to it as "the official OTA HTC Froyo update". The updates actual name is Google Android 2.2 (Froyo). It is just on a HTC device. If you want to know anything about this application, you will need to contact Android Market Customer Care, or Google Customer Care. We do not have information nor able to supply support for third party applications, I am sorry about that.
<this was regarding this bug: http://androidforums.com/desire-sup...ogle-talk-shortcut-people-gone-froyo-bug.html - as you can see, they don't have an idea on what they are talking about, besides, vanilla froyo does not have this bug, and this update is indeed HTC's, not Google's>
With regards to your Wifi turning off, you may have the sleep function off, but this will not stop the phone from stopping the Wifi connection when it loses a link and is unable to establish after 3 attempts. This is to prevent the function from draining the battery as constant Wifi connection and constantly trying to re-establish a connection can see any smart phone from draining the battery in just a couple hours.
<I mentioned that Wi-Fi would go to sleep on battery even if I set it to never turn off>
With regards to your disappointment in the Desire HD and Z having "better" UI's than the standard Desire, you must remember that they are both different operating systems to the one you have, where the Desire Z and Desire HD use Microsoft Windows 6.5 operating systems, your phone is using Android 2.2, so unfortunately, the UI's are not compatible and will never be available to one another.
<I was saying that we are not feeling good that they are keeping last generation devices from getting updates to new features of new devices (for example, desire HD sense ui improvements to Desire), even though they are perfectly capable of handling them hardware-wise>
As far as HTC Sense is concerned, this is not yet a fully functioning service and is still in the testing phase, it has been put out for general access as the best test pilots are always the ones that are going to be using the facility on a daily basis any way. It is just a case of sit and wait for everything to be working properly, but in the meantime, expect HTC Sense.com to be quite buggy with most of its functions unusable.
<Yeah, as if HTC sense alone is a service, I was referring to HTCSense.com, which is quite functioning with Desire HD and Z; anyways, good attitude, lol!>
Google have only just released 2.2 to the General Market, you will find that some phones are not viable for the 2.2 update, this will be because that particular device is not compatible, or Google are still working on the coding, but, all phones that can have 2.2 will have 2.2 and I would not worry too much about Android 3.0 for now, that is going to be something that Google release some time into the new year.
<Desire already had 2.2, I was asking about 2.3 update and about wether they were thinking of bringing 3.0 to Desire, when it get's released, of course>
Not to be funny, but if you are moving away from HTC because of something not in their control, or because of a little rough patch during their development stage, then you can not really call your self a loyal customer, rather someone that is with HTC because it was the better option at the time.
<I mentioned poor HTC Hero support and said that I was disappointed about Hero not having the 2.2 update even though I didn't have it anymore at the time, because that shows how HTC treat their customers... and what are they talking about? I had like 4 phones from them and they dare to not call me loyal? And everything is exactly in their control!>
Besides which, it is Google whom you should be talking to about their updates and your questions about releasing of the 2.2, their future updates and so on.
I hope that I have answered your questions, if you have any more in the future, please do not hesitate in getting in touch with us again.
All the Best,
Carl.
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So what you guys thing? Isn't this just pathetic?
P.S.: sorry for bad English, I was in a hurry to post this as soon as possible
With regards to your disappointment in the Desire HD and Z having "better" UI's than the standard Desire, you must remember that they are both different operating systems to the one you have, where the Desire Z and Desire HD use Microsoft Windows 6.5 operating systems, your phone is using Android 2.2
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Lovely, I love HTC
pauliusba said:
With regards to your disappointment in the Desire HD and Z having "better" UI's than the standard Desire, you must remember that they are both different operating systems to the one you have, where the Desire Z and Desire HD use Microsoft Windows 6.5 operating systems, your phone is using Android 2.2, so unfortunately, the UI's are not compatible and will never be available to one another.
<I was saying that we are not feeling good that they are keeping last generation devices from getting updates to new features of new devices (for example, desire HD sense ui improvements to Desire), even though they are perfectly capable of handling them hardware-wise>
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C'mon HTC. You cant be saying this!!
Hum.....so I guess we can reference this next time some one asks for windows on a desire. Lol
Carl needs to be fired for saying the Desire HD and Z run WinMo...Seriously.
And what if I want WinMo to my Desire, where can I find the solution? Should I write to HTC Support??? LOL
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Carl needs to be fired for saying the Desire HD and Z run WinMo...Seriously.
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Looks like wrong hire Fire him
I doubt Carl works for HTC..
LOL.
Retard most likely work as a PR junkie, not very well versed technically. Nor is he updated about the technological progress that the company is going through. Answer was pulled out from where the sun doesn't shine without reference to the appropriate departments.
Best response will be to complain about his lack of technical knowledge in helping you
Well this can happen if the customer support are not familiar with the product he or she's supporting.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
He don't know what he's talking about...but I can't blame him for that, that's his bosses fault for hiring him, maybe they can't get people with enough knowledge in the subject for the wage they are offering.
But bring rude to a customer like that is out of order.
work experience boy?
Honestly it doesn't surprise me, every time I have contacted HTC support it has given me the impression that I was talking to a monkey. What country is that support team in? That is unacceptable, what an absolute joke.
Just remember next time you contact HTC to ask for Carl...
perhaps this will help: http://www.htc.com/sea/support/customer_care.html
Such negligence in hiring for such an important post, can be disastrous for the company's repute.
abhik55 said:
I doubt Carl works for HTC..
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sounds like it
pauliusba said:
With regards to your disappointment in the Desire HD and Z having "better" UI's than the standard Desire, you must remember that they are both different operating systems to the one you have, where the Desire Z and Desire HD use Microsoft Windows 6.5 operating systems, your phone is using Android 2.2, so unfortunately, the UI's are not compatible and will never be available to one another.
<I was saying that we are not feeling good that they are keeping last generation devices from getting updates to new features of new devices (for example, desire HD sense ui improvements to Desire), even though they are perfectly capable of handling them hardware-wise>
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Come on guys, give Carl a chance.
He must have been drunk when he replied you, there is no other explanation, he must have been drunk .... and distorted.
He might be trying to flog off the older WM65 devices they have left in stock?
or probably more likely, just confused with the HTC Touch HD2 or something... Desire HD, Touch HD2... maybe he thought the Z was a 2?
who knows - maybe they are just trying to fill up the staff for the xmas period...
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Come on guys, give Carl a chance.
He must have been drunk when he replied you, there is no other explanation, he must have been drunk .... and distorted.
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No, he just make cofusion with the template they have..Htc customer care have some templates to use for every case, and every template have some input (like the device)..Maybe he just put the wrong input (wm 6.5) and he didn't read the output that sent u...
LOL..joking..but I think thats the real situation, htc has always replied me with some default template..
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LOL..joking..but I think thats the real situation, htc has always replied me with some default template..
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I know what you mean - I always feel I get a default template reply, but with some areas for free text.... I get a MUCH better sense of a real response from HTC than with a lot of other companies to be honest - which is why if you ask the same question twice you do get different replies - but mostly the same 'content'...
I do generally feel a reply has come from a person rather than a machine at least even if its wrong!
As title says.....Google just will bought HTC.....
Are you an insider or is this being reported somewhere?
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Are you an insider or is this being reported somewhere?
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Was on the cards..
I don't see it. Post a link or stop spreading rumors.
Source pls? Can't find any reliable source on this. All the sources I find are mentioning plans. Google seems to be interesteed in buying htc, nothing more.
There are plans. Nothing confirmed
this was told from the official service in greece... Yes an insider ...They will make the announcement when things are ready.Google will keep htc sense .They purchase has done for the htc patents such as touch sideways image stabilization and pruduct line for google phones....
HTC just announce they will halt share trading tomorrow
http://investors.htc.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=148697&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2301730
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@Anoubis282 Will Google keep maintaining htc 10? How about Android Oreo release?
Kim Lu said:
@Anoubis282 Will Google keep maintaining htc 10? How about Android Oreo release?
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I wondered the same. HTC 10 is no longer listed / available on HTC website. The 10 was slated for Oreo, probably not now.
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I wondered the same. HTC 10 is no longer listed / available on HTC website. The 10 was slated for Oreo, probably not now.
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I see it differently, Google is good for updates and it would make good business sense to maintain HTC devices for the future
Entire smartphone division move to google while keep the HTC brand, one possible reason, as some analyst said, is keep the brand and get enough time to clear all the stock.
Anyway 1.1B is a bargain compare to Moto
SAD, multiple resources confirmed that Google acquired Pixel division of HTC , not the entire business though.
I told you.....1,1 bilion dollars....
The HTC as a brand will consumed by google....HTC brnd will remain fot 2 years untill htc foul absoreb from google.....No new models from htc in the 2018 ,Htc updates halteed for now.....Maybe discontinued....I am sory for that info....I believe that we reach the end.....See the good poiont....every google phone from now will be an htc with stock gp and htc quality...thats good is not it??
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The HTC as a brand will consumed by google....HTC brnd will remain fot 2 years untill htc foul absoreb from google.....No new models from htc in the 2018 ,Htc updates halteed for now.....Maybe discontinued....I am sory for that info....I believe that we reach the end.....See the good poiont....every google phone from now will be an htc with stock gp and htc quality...thats good is not it??
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Umm.. no. HTC has clearly said that it will remain in the smartphone business, and they have planned products for the near future, including a 2018 flagship. The deal with Google allows HTC to survive, with less employees and those 1.1 billion dollars, they can remain afloat for a while. It's a good deal for both Google and HTC.
There are also rumors about a 18:9 aspect ratio phone that will be launched by HTC, an HTC U11 Plus or something like that, most likely in November.
That wouldnt be good for both or them because HTC cant compete anymore. They did the same mistake AMD did. Now there are some young companys who sell more phones then htc.
Google will get the patents to build their pixels, grab some ppl from engineering and sell HTC to someone else.
Not sure how hard it is for people to get that Google didn't buy HTC. If anything, this can be seen as somewhat of a partnership. They didn't buy HTC like they clearly did with Motorola. The facts are there. Personal feelings and opinions don't count as facts.
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Not sure how hard it is for people to get that Google didn't buy HTC. If anything, this can be seen as somewhat of a partnership. They didn't buy HTC like they clearly did with Motorola. The facts are there. Personal feelings and opinions don't count as facts.
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Indeed. Google & HTC deal is 100% polar opposite of what Google & Motorola was.
Anoubis282 said:
The HTC as a brand will consumed by google....HTC brnd will remain fot 2 years untill htc foul absoreb from google.....No new models from htc in the 2018 ,Htc updates halteed for now.....Maybe discontinued....I am sory for that info....I believe that we reach the end.....See the good poiont....every google phone from now will be an htc with stock gp and htc quality...thats good is not it??
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They are working in the successor of the U11. HTC will continue being independent:
"HTC will continue to have best-in-class engineering talent, which is currently working on the next flagship phone, following the successful launch of the HTC U11 earlier this year."
Here you can read the official communication:
http://www.htc.com/us/about/newsroom/2017/2017-09-21-htc-google/