Charging Pixel XL by using Laptop is extremely slow - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

I have got unlimited mobile internet and actually need to connect my mobile to laptop for USB tethering as have limited internet for WiFi tethering. I previously had used many phones but they were charging at good speed when connected with USB ports on laptops but PIxel XL is very slow.
"Charging slowly" = below 1A (at 5V),
"Charging" means between 1A and 1.5A,
"Charging rapidly" means more than 1.5A
I am using Anker USB C (male) to Micro USB Adapter (female) to connect it with usb ports of Laptop. I have usb 2.0 and 3.0 ports on laptop but it dont make any difference and charging is still slow. Is there any way to make it charge faster or even at medium speed between 1A and 1.5A ?
Thank you

Rajaasim1980 said:
I have got unlimited mobile internet and actually need to connect my mobile to laptop for USB tethering as have limited internet for WiFi tethering. I previously had used many phones but they were charging at good speed when connected with USB ports on laptops but PIxel XL is very slow.
"Charging slowly" = below 1A (at 5V),
"Charging" means between 1A and 1.5A,
"Charging rapidly" means more than 1.5A
I am using Anker USB C (male) to Micro USB Adapter (female) to connect it with usb ports of Laptop. I have usb 2.0 and 3.0 ports on laptop but it dont make any difference and charging is still slow. Is there any way to make it charge faster or even at medium speed between 1A and 1.5A ?
Thank you
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I believe that 2.0 is only able to output 500 mAh and 3.0 is 900 mAh.

All the non-charging ports on my PC are 500mAh for the USB 2.0 ports.
It's how it's been with every phone I ever had.
Industry standard for a non charging USB port AFAIK.

Thanks guys for your response
So it dont matter what USB cable you use and it will still be slow charging? Its second time i am using phones that use type c charging.
My previous Samsung phones had normal usb ports and they were charging fine with laptops and charging was not this slow . Is it type c thing that make it slow when you use adaptor to covert type c into micro USB?

Rajaasim1980 said:
Thanks guys for your response
So it dont matter what USB cable you use and it will still be slow charging? Its second time i am using phones that use type c charging.
My previous Samsung phones had normal usb ports and they were charging fine with laptops and charging was not this slow . Is it type c thing that make it slow when you use adaptor to covert type c into micro USB?
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It's a placebo. All phones charge at 500mah on a laptop. The Samsungs probably didn't have such big batteries or had better battery life so you felt you were charging your phone less.
You would be better off carrying a quick charging battery pack.

USB 2.0 runs at 500mA at 5v, giving 2.5W
USB 3.0 runs at 900mA, giving 4.5
To put this in perspective, our oem and Google store sold chargers are 18-22 watts.
Very few pc ports (unless specified) will give you decent charging speed. My ECS motherboard has pin outs for quick charging at around 15watts.
Look for some usb hubs with power delivery.

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Is there a way to charge ya phone through the USB as quick as it would charge through the mains?
It takes for ever to charge through USB?
No. Because USB hub doesn't have as much output as charger.
I know standard usb gives 5V
how much does the wall charger give??
I have a freeloader solar charger, and don't know if I can use the 9.5V output on my desire.
jbej said:
I know standard usb gives 5V
how much does the wall charger give??
I have a freeloader solar charger, and don't know if I can use the 9.5V output on my desire.
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It's not the Volts that's the problem its the Amps
The wall charger provides 1A, a USB connection provides 500mA, so half as much.
Ok thanks people
Never tested never heard about but maybe a Y-cable (2 standard A plugs on one side, a micro USB A on the other side) is what you are looking for. It provides the 500 mA from two individual USB ports. However, you have to make sure that both ports can supply 500 mA individually and simultaneously! E.g. a passive USB hub will not work since all USB ports have to share the 500 mA from the host PC. You would need a powered USB hub.
Get a cheap USB cable extender.
Cut it open.
Short the 2 data wires (white and green)
Tape it back up.
Use this in-between your normal USB cable and your USB port.

Micro USB 3.0 on Apollo phones?

I'm guessing probably not, but the faster charging times would be a great plus. Charging over USB 2.0 seems rather slow compared to proprietary connectors like iPhones, etc. It micro connector should be backwards compatible if you only had a 2.0 cable anyway. It shouldn't impact the design of phones very much since it's just a little wider.
Correct me if i am wrong but It should charge over usb 3.0 faster as usb 2.0 can supply 5v at 500 mA whilst usb 3.0 is 900 mA. Regardless of the connector like the proprietary apple connector it will not charge a device any better as it still is constrained by the usb standard. This is not to say you cannot run more amps though a usb cable connect to a wall connecter as i have a usb wall connected that runs 5v at 1 amp and it charges pretty dam fast.
leftspeaker2000 said:
Correct me if i am wrong but It should charge over usb 3.0 faster as usb 2.0 can supply 5v at 500 mA whilst usb 3.0 is 900 mA. Regardless of the connector like the proprietary apple connector it will not charge a device any better as it still is constrained by the usb standard. This is not to say you cannot run more amps though a usb cable connect to a wall connecter as i have a usb wall connected that runs 5v at 1 amp and it charges pretty dam fast.
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I don't really think so.
the number of USB 3.0 "actual" user nowdays is still low. and the price for it right now is also ridiculous high compare to the standard 2.0.
But who knows? maybe i am wrong... USB 3.0 is a nice feature to have.

[Review/Comparison] Choetech USB Car chargers QC3 USB (T002) & USB C (c0051)

Review/Comparison between Choetech USB Car chargers QC3 USB (Tc002) & USB C (c0051)
(Note this is tested on HTC 10 with a choetech USB C cable)
USB QC 3 charger (Model tc002)
This is a nice little charger, small form and built well. It has a little led in the middle to let you know it has power/is charging. It also comes with usb c cable which is a nice addition.
It has 2 ports, one with a blue strip around it to let you know it’s the “main” QC 3 port. This port gives off 9.1v with 0.83a. The phone recognised this as QC3 and displayed the “charging rapidly” sign.
The 2nd port has no strip around it. It gives off 5v and 1.9a, so will charge slightly slower but still for an in charge charger will charge most phones well.
USB C QC 3 charger (Model c0051)
This is a nice little charger like the above, very similar build wise the only difference being the ports themselves. Please note no cable was provided with this charger. The led also changes from blue to green when charging.
It has 2 ports, 1 usb c and 1 normal USB (USB A). The normal usb port also looks reversible which is a nice added feature. The usb C port requires a USB C to USB C cable.
The normal USB port gives off 8.8v and 1.5a. The phone did recognize this as QC3 and displayed the “charging rapidly” sign.
The usb c port I was unable to read due to not having the right connector to read volts and amps, so I used an inbuilt amp to read the charging speed (Ampere). This read as 1800mA which as comparison is around the same as the official HTC charger that came with my HTC 10. The phone however did not display the “charging rapidly” sign
Conclusions
Both are very good chargers and both available at a reasonable price. If I were to pick one I would pick the 1st USB QC 3 charger (tc002) simply because I feel the double usb a ports give you more options when charging

Will using a USB-C to USB-A cable remove the quick charging?

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No
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You need to use quality charger with 3.0A for that
a good/proper usb-c to usb-a cable is supposed to have a built in resistor to keep the device from pulling too much current through the older usb-a plug, which ofc wasn't designed with the capabilities of usb-c in mind.
therefore you should not be able to charge as fast with said cables, otherwise it wouldn't be too unlikely for your device or charger to get seriously damaged.
Broken303 said:
a good/proper usb-c to usb-a cable is supposed to have a built in resistor to keep the device from pulling too much current
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To be more precise, the resistor doesn't keep the device from pulling too much current, it tells the device it is connected to a legacy cable and it should limit to .5, .9, or 1.5A. The device can still choose to pull more current if it has alternate means of figuring out the capabilities of the power source. It won't be using facilities within the USB C spec, but it will still work fine.
My bedside combo of a 2.4amp charging brick, anker powerline 10ft micro usb cable, and anker micro usb to usb c adapter gives me quick charging. The cable and adapter also allow data transfer and adb from my macbook pro.
sedracer said:
My bedside combo of a 2.4amp charging brick, anker powerline 10ft micro usb cable, and anker micro usb to usb c adapter gives me quick charging. The cable and adapter also allow data transfer and adb from my macbook pro.
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In my experience 5x says "Charging rapidly" around 1.6A. Some of the legacy USB A -> USB C cables (either direct or through micro-usb adapter) can get around 1.6A and 5x will display "Charging rapidly" but this might not be the same rate as the stock USB C native charger with which the device can pull 2.6A for the lower battery ranges like 0-40% before the phone slows down to around 1.8A (and even slower later on in the cycle)
sfhub said:
In my experience 5x says "Charging rapidly" around 1.6A. Some of the legacy USB A -> USB C cables (either direct or through micro-usb adapter) can get around 1.6A and 5x will display "Charging rapidly" but this might not be the same rate as the stock USB C native charger with which the device can pull 2.6A for the lower battery ranges like 0-40% before the phone slows down to around 1.8A (and even slower later on in the cycle)
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Discovered this after returning my 5x, picking up a 6p, and installing ampere. Still functional as a bedside charger but thanks for the help tho.

Which charges faster USB C or USB 3 .0?

I just bought my first Google pixel tablet with a USB C charging point. Is it faster to charge USB C to USB C?
Or is USB 3.0 2 USB C the same speed?
Thanks
I know with my lg v20 if I use my USB c pd charger with it. It charges faster than my 3.0 USB A to USB c charger. So I would guess same holds true with the pixel c.
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USB-C and USB 3.0 are two completely separate things. USB-C is merely a connector type. The default protocol for USB-C is USB 3.1, but if anything in the connection is incompatible with 3.1 then it will reduce down to whatever the lowest is. For instance using a USB 3.0 cable on a 3.1 connection results in 3.0 speeds/power. Likewise, if you use a tablet/phone whose physical port is USB 2.0 with a 3.0 cable it will still only go at 2.0 speeds.
What really matters here is your power source. The Pixel C supports USB Power Delivery for fast charging. The included charger is not PD-capable and will charge at 15W ([email protected]). The Google 60W USB Type C charger (included with the 2015 Chromebook Pixel) will charge the Pixel C at 24W ([email protected]) Another thing to keep in mind when considering chargers is that Qualcomm's Quick Charge isn't the same as what the Pixel C uses and likely will always default to 5V/2.4A charging so make sure you use a PD-capable charger if you want to get the fastest charging speeds.
tkoreaper said:
USB-C and USB 3.0 are two completely separate things. USB-C is merely a connector type. The default protocol for USB-C is USB 3.1, but if anything in the connection is incompatible with 3.1 then it will reduce down to whatever the lowest is. For instance using a USB 3.0 cable on a 3.1 connection results in 3.0 speeds/power. Likewise, if you use a tablet/phone whose physical port is USB 2.0 with a 3.0 cable it will still only go at 2.0 speeds.
What really matters here is your power source. The Pixel C supports USB Power Delivery for fast charging. The included charger is not PD-capable and will charge at 15W ([email protected]). The Google 60W USB Type C charger (included with the 2015 Chromebook Pixel) will charge the Pixel C at 24W ([email protected]) Another thing to keep in mind when considering chargers is that Qualcomm's Quick Charge isn't the same as what the Pixel C uses and likely will always default to 5V/2.4A charging so make sure you use a PD-capable charger if you want to get the fastest charging speeds.
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That's very informative. How quickly does the pixel charge when at 12V/2A?
All very useful information. Thank you.
I have a feeling that fast charges can eventually cause damage to a battery or at least reduce its life expectancy.
I don't know why but I have the impression that slower charging – if one isn't in a hurry, such as overnight will eventually give longer battery life – especially interesting in a unit which doesn't have a user rechargeable battery.
Got any comments about this?
I would suggest this reading: http://www.fpvforme.com/charging-lipo-batteries/
Just make 100% positive you're buying a good USB C Power Delivery compatible charger+cable, if not you risk damaging your Pixel C.
Reference this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/pubhtml

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