Ambient Display? - Moto Z2 Force Questions & Answers

I don't know if it is a bug but if I disable the moto display, the screen will not turn on when a notification comes in. Is there a way to enable the default Ambient Display?

jluna1 said:
I don't know if it is a bug but if I disable the moto display, the screen will not turn on when a notification comes in. Is there a way to enable the default Ambient Display?
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Seems I overlooked this post, I was wondering the same thing!

Was anyone ever able to get stock ambient display (not Moto Active Display) working?

I ave tried all configs and disable all moto app with no success, when i disable the moto display app the ambient display setting appears but the phone doesn't wake when a notification comes in... ¿Maybe it needs a root thing, xposed or something else?

I was also hoping for a solution to this, I would love to use ambient display.

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About Ambient Display

Hello guys,
Ambient Display is what the display shows gray notification when you picked up your device. Right ?
I am wondering is the AMBIENT DISPLAY really working in our Device?
I mean like in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Mine is not working like this. I enabled the option in the display settings. But I am getting the gray notifications twice or thrice and that's all.
It isn't responding (Showing notifications) when I picked my phone up. Is it require any hardware equipment or something? is it just replica to the Original Feature?
or Its just mine not working?
can anyone clarify my doubt. Thanks in advance
For me it also doesn't work when picking up my phone, but the screen waking when notifications arrive does. I suppose it uses some hardware that our 1S doesn't have.
Yeah.. I too think so

[APP][Android 6+] Ambi-Turner - wake up ambient display

I've created an app that wakes ambient display when you take the phone out of your pocket or if you have the phone face down and turn it over. The app is in addition to Google's ambient display and does not change your lock screen in anyway.
I added a few other paid features for lift to unlock, wave to unlock, pulsing at an interval, and battery percentage display on the ambient display.
I have a thread going on the Pixel XL forums and a number of people have been testing it out. I think it's stable enough to start spreading the word.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions or run into any problems. Thank you!
Check it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.ambiturner
I'm interested, but it appears your link is dead.
Edit: found it in play store. Went ahead and got pro for lift to wake.
Atemi1337 said:
I'm interested, but it appears your link is dead.
Edit: found it in play store. Went ahead and got pro for lift to wake.
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Thank you! I fixed the link...cut and paste truncated the link.
I'm testing it since four days and can absolutely recommend it.
No battery drain here at all. Proper functionality and even more options with every new version.
Keep up the great work.
Edit: do you have PayPal? I'm gonna hook you up with a beer.
Melecatius said:
I'm testing it since four days and can absolutely recommend it.
No battery drain here at all. Proper functionality and even more options with every new version.
Keep up the great work.
Edit: do you have PayPal? I'm gonna hook you up with a beer.
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Haha, thank you. The app support is more than enough thanks!
Just bought the pro version. Coming from a note 7 and missing that ambient display, this great app will do.
Looks great.
Thank you very much sir
Trying it on a Nexus 6p. So far i'm loving it.
Bought pro, thanks!
So I've done some limited testing with the app white listed from doze and so far it improves the responsiveness significantly. I don't know the battery impacts yet, but if it's not noticeable I'll add code to prompt users to white list it.
Other upcoming changes:
Advanced settings to adjust wait times for how long the phone has to be in your pocket or laying flat before a wake can occur.
A pulse option that initially pulses faster when a notification comes in, and progressively shows down until the timeout.
Possibly change in lock screen battery indicator appearance.
Filter on laying flat thresholds. I suspect the accelerometer incorrectly reports the phone tilted while it is laying flat on occasion.
Just bought the Pro version, thanks for the nice app.
Unfortunately the ambient display doesn't light up on my Pixel if the phone is unlocked, e.g. by SmartLock. Typically, I have the phone lying next to me on the desk at work or at home und the phone is unlocked by location based SmartLock. This is where I would like to see incoming notifications without touching the phone. Do you think this is possible to implement?
Wrapp said:
Just bought the Pro version, thanks for the nice app.
Unfortunately the ambient display doesn't light up on my Pixel if the phone is unlocked, e.g. by SmartLock. Typically, I have the phone lying next to me on the desk at work or at home und the phone is unlocked by location based SmartLock. This is where I would like to see incoming notifications without touching the phone. Do you think this is possible to implement?
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I'll look into that. I've got an idea that may work.
grokus said:
I'll look into that. I've got an idea that may work.
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For me wave to wake works with smart lock in my home.
Taebom said:
For me wave to wake works with smart lock in my home.
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Doesn't work for me.
More important (maybe only for me): the screen doesn't light up without interaction if the phone is unlocked by smartlock. That's the same behavior as with the ROM build in ambient display feature. It only lights up the screen when the phone is locked.
Thanks a lot for looking into that. This would overcome the disappointing original Google ambient display implementation!
If i can help somehow (testing,...) please let me know.
Wrapp said:
Doesn't work for me.
More important (maybe only for me): the screen doesn't light up without interaction if the phone is unlocked by smartlock. That's the same behavior as with the ROM build in ambient display feature. It only lights up the screen when the phone is locked.
Thanks a lot for looking into that. This would overcome the disappointing original Google ambient display implementation!
If i can help somehow (testing,...) please let me know.
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Do you still have ambient display enabled in settings? Mine is working with the location smart lock turned on and ambient display enabled.
grokus said:
Do you still have ambient display enabled in settings? Mine is working with the location smart lock turned on and ambient display enabled.
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Tested again..
Ambi-turner enabled.
In display settings
Ambient display : on
Display timeout : 15sec
Security settings:
Pin lock screen after 10min
On/off button locks immediately
(I'm not on an English version, hope the translations are understandable)
The phone is in an area where is unlocked by location based smartlock.
Test 1: wait for 15sec until the screen switches off, wait another minute, send me an WhatsApp from 2nd phone: i hear the notification sound, screen doesn't turn on. If i turn on the display using the on/off button i am on the home screen.
Test 2: switch off the screen by on\off button, (i can hear the lockscreen notification) and send me a WhatsApp from another phone. I hear the notification sound, screen turns on and shows the message. If i turn on the phone by on/off button I'm on the lock screen.
Pixel, version NDE63H
Just bought pro - nice job!
I' ve just tested it on my Nexus 5 with PureNexus 6.0.1 rom. PN has ambient display function in settings but it doesn't work because Nexus 5 doesn't have pick up sensors or pocket sensors. Therefore I've been looking for some solution how to wake it, for example cmactions-wave to wake or similar. For the previous period I've been using GravityBox but it's battery hungry.
I see now that ambi-turner works also, so testing it ATM...
nice work...
jazzh said:
I' ve just tested it on my Nexus 5 with PureNexus 6.0.1 rom. PN has ambient display function in settings but it doesn't work because Nexus 5 doesn't have pick up sensors or pocket sensors. Therefore I've been looking for some solution how to wake it, for example cmactions-wave to wake or similar. For the previous period I've been using GravityBox but it's battery hungry.
I see now that ambi-turner works also, so testing it ATM...
nice work...
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Thank you. I'm posting an update soon. I'm testing a new mechanism that is waking the screen up much more reliably than the current version.

Ambient Display still works on Moto Z Play after nougat update?

Hi folks,
after i crashed my Nexus 6 i bought the Moto Z Play. Great mobile with a long lasting battery, i love it.
The only thing is, that i got used to Ambient Display on the Nexus. I read, that it is also possible on the Moto. Just stop and disable the process (called "Moto Info" on the device, German setting, maybe called different in other languages), go to display and enable the option Ambient Display.
But it doesn't work. Screen not goes on after receiving a message. Have i done smth wrong or is it not possible anymore after the update?
Thanks in advance, greetings and have a nice day.
PS: Having stock, locked, unrooted Android 7 on the phone.
Do you have the option "Ambient Display" on your phone? or did you confuse it with "Adaptive Brightness"?
As far as i know, Motorola has phased it out ( or nicely put intergrated with Moto Display) and the method you describe works only on Moto X Play.
Moto Display is the equivalent to Ambient Display. It's in the Moto App. IMO, Moto Display is better than Ambient Display.
Thanks for reply, and sorry for my long taking answer. Had to make a business trip to a neighbour country.
Yes, i've the option "Ambient Display" in the display settings. On MM was it possible to use it like i discribed it. But under nougat I never got it running. Which one is better depends on the own needs. I got used to the Nexus 6 and that it showed the preview of the received message, when the display switched on. With Moto Display I've to hit the icon first with the finger to see the message.
Moto display is working after nougat update.
Was anyone ever able to get stock ambient display (not Moto Active Display) working?
Disabling the Moto Display app enables the ambient display setting but it do not work at all, the screen never lights up when a notification arrives.
Any suggestions? maybe rooting or some xposed thing?

Life without Notification LED

I tried NoLED but the immersive mode only last half a minute or so (tried tasker setting immersive mode to hide both when display is on ) and im afraid of battery drain and burn in.
tried glimpse notifications and ambi tuner with little luck (was trying to get pulsing ambient display when having a notification, otherwise off), but pulsing didnt work
what i have settled for so far is using secure settings and tasker to turn on always on display when i have a notification and turn off always on display when i remove a notification. its called doze_always_on in tasker>plugins.>secure settings>device setting (paywall)>system table>secure list>doze_always_on. where 0 is off and 1 is on. I had to set the wake screen up for notifications setting on for this to work.
here is a video jon2jay made of another method of using tasker without need of secure settings (watch in silent): https://ufile.io/fv287
if someone has a better idea that woudl be great. i was thinking about using the notches as notification leds, when you can switch between colors for different app notifications, and even use different "ears" of the notch. the dev of ambi tuner says hes working on pixel 3 xl compatibility.
looks like samsung pie has colored notificaitons on their ambient display. would love that, if it was only on when notifications were there.
Lack of Led alternative
Coming from the original Pixel, I too can't get used to not having an led. I have been using LED Blinker pro with acceptable success. Many customization options. Test mode does not seem to work, but the app works flawlessly.
With all the supposed focus on digital well-being, eliminating the notification LED was a really poor choice. Now we're forced to pick up the damn phone to see what a notification is. I'm going to have to try out some of the options you guys mentioned.
An app that makes a color near the notch would be great, you know something similar to the battery color around the notch. This on AOD would kinda replace the need for the LED...
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dipstik said:
I tried NoLED but the immersive mode only last half a minute or so (tried tasker setting immersive mode to hide both when display is on ) and im afraid of battery drain and burn in.
tried glimpse notifications and ambi tuner with little luck (was trying to get pulsing ambient display when having a notification, otherwise off), but pulsing didnt work
what i have settled for so far is using secure settings and tasker to turn on always on display when i have a notification and turn off always on display when i remove a notification. its called doze_always_on in tasker>plugins.>secure settings>device setting (paywall)>system table>secure list>doze_always_on. where 0 is off and 1 is on. I had to set the wake screen up for notifications setting on for this to work.
if someone has a better idea that woudl be great. i was thinking about using the notches as notification leds, when you can switch between colors for different app notifications, and even use different "ears" of the notch. the dev of ambi tuner says hes working on pixel 3 xl compatibility.
looks like samsung pie has colored notificaitons on their ambient display. would love that, if it was only on when notifications were there.
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I wish google could read this. No one should have to bend over backwards and jump through hoops to enable something as simple as a stupid blinking light! Google failed us so hard by removing the LED.
Now, I can't even tell if my phone is charging without waking the screen. Worse, I have no clue if the battery is low and need to charge without also waking the screen. No clue if I missed a call, or a calendar event... NOTHING! unless I turn on the screen. I shouldn't have to actively interact with my phone to get passive information. If I wanted that, I would have purchased an iPhone.
Doesn't bother me, I've had phones with and without LED. My life hasn't changed
Time to fix that LED
PuffDaddy_d said:
I wish google could read this. No one should have to bend over backwards and jump through hoops to enable something as simple as a stupid blinking light! Google failed us so hard by removing the LED.
Now, I can't even tell if my phone is charging without waking the screen. Worse, I have no clue if the battery is low and need to charge without also waking the screen. No clue if I missed a call, or a calendar event... NOTHING! unless I turn on the screen. I shouldn't have to actively interact with my phone to get passive information. If I wanted that, I would have purchased an iPhone.
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Hey. I love to develop and will make this my mission. Since the display is an OLED wich make it possible to turn on and off idividual pixels this should not be that hard. Keep you updated.
I hate not having an LED. Turning the display on to simply check for notifications is becoming aggravating.
Someone please come up with something.
deepsurge said:
Hey. I love to develop and will make this my mission. Since the display is an OLED wich make it possible to turn on and off idividual pixels this should not be that hard. Keep you updated.
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So there are some apps that already do this; however, they all struggle to play nicely with the default lock screen. If you can get around this limitation, I would gladly make a financial contribution.
Haven't missed it one bit. I use the AOD though. If I didn't, I would definitely want the LED.
PuffDaddy_d said:
So there are some apps that already do this; however, they all struggle to play nicely with the default lock screen. If you can get around this limitation, I would gladly make a financial contribution.
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I will look in to this, as an old embedded engineer i will try to solve this, i love a challange.
deepsurge said:
I will look in to this, as an old embedded engineer i will try to solve this, i love a challange.
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PM me if you need a beta tester
Or some app that would show the Notification Icon on the top of the screen. Just the icon blinking on the all black OLED screen.
I think Samsung's implementation is cool. It takes the colors from the app and uses that as the icon on the screen. Being able to customize that even further would be awesome. Like make all unimportant white and urgent ones red.
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Or some app that would show the Notification Icon on the top of the screen. Just the icon blinking on the all black OLED screen.
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Those apps exist. They just don't play nicely with the lock screen.
killakarl said:
I think Samsung's implementation is cool. It takes the colors from the app and uses that as the icon on the screen. Being able to customize that even further would be awesome. Like make all unimportant white and urgent ones red.
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When I initially receive a notification with the AOD on, the icon is colored like that. For Textra it colors the icon the color of the conversation, which is neat. I can tell at a glance who messaged me. For Facebook the icon is blue, Gmail is red, etc.
When the notification goes away and the AOD has the normal display of clock and the icons, it's all that muted shade of gray/white
Hooray!
I am glad this was pointed out, I always found the notification LED on my old Samsung to be mildly annoying but not worth the effort to completely disable. I am glad this phone doesn't have one, easy enough to tap the screen to see what apps the notifications are from and expand if needed. The blinking light was irritating when sleeping or in a dark room. Thanks for pointing this out, one more reason I love my new Pixel 3 XL :laugh:
dipstik said:
I tried NoLED but the immersive mode only last half a minute or so (tried tasker setting immersive mode to hide both when display is on ) and im afraid of battery drain and burn in.
tried glimpse notifications and ambi tuner with little luck (was trying to get pulsing ambient display when having a notification, otherwise off), but pulsing didnt work
what i have settled for so far is using secure settings and tasker to turn on always on display when i have a notification and turn off always on display when i remove a notification. its called doze_always_on in tasker>plugins.>secure settings>device setting (paywall)>system table>secure list>doze_always_on. where 0 is off and 1 is on. I had to set the wake screen up for notifications setting on for this to work.
if someone has a better idea that woudl be great. i was thinking about using the notches as notification leds, when you can switch between colors for different app notifications, and even use different "ears" of the notch. the dev of ambi tuner says hes working on pixel 3 xl compatibility.
looks like samsung pie has colored notificaitons on their ambient display. would love that, if it was only on when notifications were there.
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Hey could you please share your tasker profiles? I think that you are having 2 different profiles right? I'm trying to do the same but can't seem to find the doze always on in secure settings :S
This would do until someone manages to customize the ambient or make an app that makes something blink or i dunno what
I've just created an app called Pixel Pulse. I could use some testers if anyone is willing to give it a try. You can select the apps you want to have the app pulse your Ambient Display. There's paid customization for icons and colors but the core functionality of the app is free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.pixelpulse
If you had previously purchased Ambi-Turner, it has been updated for the new permissions, but because it was written for 8.0 and when Google's ambient display worked differently I decided to leave it as it is. You may however transfer your purchase status of Ambient Display to Pixel Pulse using both apps.
grokus said:
I've just created an app called Pixel Pulse. I could use some testers if anyone is willing to give it a try. You can select the apps you want to have the app pulse your Ambient Display. There's paid customization for icons and colors but the core functionality of the app is free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.pixelpulse
If you had previously purchased Ambi-Turner, it has been updated for the new permissions, but because it was written for 8.0 and when Google's ambient display worked differently I decided to leave it as it is. You may however transfer your purchase status of Ambient Display to Pixel Pulse using both apps.
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Thanks. If I understand correctly, Pixel Pulse works alongside Ambient Display? It appears that PP adds the pulse customization that AD does not have?

Question Wake AOD - show new notification - sleep AOD

Hey all, I've had a pixel for the last 5 or 6 years and switched to the s22. One thing that I miss is the Pixel would wake the AOD, show only the new notification, then sleep the AOD. I liked it because it's a way to see breaking news, or important notifications without having the AOD always on.
The S22 doesn't seem to have this, and there's plenty of apps on the app store that can wake the screen. But those apps don't show the newest notification only, they just wake the screen. I tried aodNotify but it's not quite there since it doesn't sleep the AOD after showing the notification.
Maybe a tasker profile? I've found tasker profiles that can wake the AOD - similar to the Glimpse Notifications app - but none that focus on the new notification itself.
Does anyone know of a way to try and emulate this?
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Hey all, I've had a pixel for the last 5 or 6 years and switched to the s22. One thing that I miss is the Pixel would wake the AOD, show only the new notification, then sleep the AOD. I liked it because it's a way to see breaking news, or important notifications without having the AOD always on.
The S22 doesn't seem to have this, and there's plenty of apps on the app store that can wake the screen. But those apps don't show the newest notification only, they just wake the screen. I tried aodNotify but it's not quite there since it doesn't sleep the AOD after showing the notification.
Maybe a tasker profile? I've found tasker profiles that can wake the AOD - similar to the Glimpse Notifications app - but none that focus on the new notification itself.
Does anyone know of a way to try and emulate this?
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I think what you're referring to is called ambient display. I think Samsung pretty much disabled it on their phones in favor of their own implementation of AOD. The only way I can think of adding it back is via a custom ROM (based on AOSP) but it would come with its own problems of course. I remember being able to bring it back with root but as of Android 9 it didn't work for me anymore. I don't think something like tasker would bring it back either, unfortunately.
I think you're right about the ambient display, that sounds familiar. Bummer Samsung disabled it. Maybe the aodNotify app is my best bet then
There is a function in the AOD settings. "Show for new notifications". I use that, it has the screen off until a notification comes up, then turns on the AOD screen. Once you look at the notification or hit the power button, it shuts off AOD until the next notification.
I don't remember if it shows the popup for reading texts or email, would have to play with that.
I believe aodNotify will solve your problem. It's perfect, has a ton of customizability options, and doesn't drain as much battery,

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