Note 4 may have reached end of life... - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

The Note 4 may have reached end of life designation, where it stops receiving updates.
The phone was announced September 4, but released globally in October. With the release of the Note 8 we likely will see an end to the monthly updates. I remember seeing a document outlining the contract between carriers and Samsung for the length of time to release updates, and it was 3 years. The Note 4 has either hit this end, or will do so in the next few months.

Shanghai.Knight said:
The Note 4 may have reached end of life designation, where it stops receiving updates.
The phone was announced September 4, but released globally in October. With the release of the Note 8 we likely will see an end to the monthly updates. I remember seeing a document outlining the contract between carriers and Samsung for the length of time to release updates, and it was 3 years. The Note 4 has either hit this end, or will do so in the next few months.
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We could have gone on and did our own updayes if we had our bootloaders unlocked. What a shame for us ATT Note 4 users.
I'm expecting my phone to die anytime anyways, since it has been slowing down in the last couple of weeks (a clear cache / reboot couldn't fix it) and the lags keep increasing. I do hope it could last me until a couple more months or so, until I could find a viable replacement or a new release from manufacturers.
It has been a long and fun ride guys! Thanks for the memories!

When my chinese seller stops refurbishing them then I'll buy a Note 5.....lol. These chinese lot are really good; I'd go to CEX in the UK and pick up one that still has screen burns and wifi issues but this chinese seller on Ebay sells them off at the same price with none of those issues. Like he replaces the screen, reflashes it etc.
boofman said:
We could have gone on and did our own updayes if we had our bootloaders unlocked. What a shame for us ATT Note 4 users.
I'm expecting my phone to die anytime anyways, since it has been slowing down in the last couple of weeks (a clear cache / reboot couldn't fix it) and the lags keep increasing. I do hope it could last me until a couple more months or so, until I could find a viable replacement or a new release from manufacturers.
It has been a long and fun ride guys! Thanks for the memories!
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trevster said:
When my chinese seller stops refurbishing them then I'll buy a Note 5.....lol. These chinese lot are really good; I'd go to CEX in the UK and pick up one that still has screen burns and wifi issues but this chinese seller on Ebay sells them off at the same price with none of those issues. Like he replaces the screen, reflashes it etc.
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I'm a bit hesitant with the Note 5 as the battery is non-removable.. I've replaced the one on my Note 4 so I don think the ones on the Note 5s would last any longer..

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I'm a bit hesitant with the Note 5 as the battery is non-removable.. I've replaced the one on my Note 4 so I don think the ones on the Note 5s would last any longer..
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Well that's poo then I'll find one that takes batteries. Purely because I have a wireless charger for my NOTE 4 so I'll find the next NOTE model up that has a battery.

Lags and crashes increased over time on my Note 4... I sent it in for repair, spent $70, and they replaced almost everything, including the camera... I have, essentially, a brand new Note 4 (I did have to re-unlock the phone).
As far as I'm concerned, the Note 4 is still faster than most mid-range phones out there on the market. I plan on using it for about another year. I'll upgrade to the Note 8 next summer when the Note 9 comes out and I can get Note 8's at a cheap price.
This Note 4 has been the best phone I've ever used thus far...

Spoke Too Soon, there's an update available today! We should assume, however, that this is one of the last of the updates coming for this phone. The countdown has begun...

Not published on the ATT website
Shanghai.Knight said:
Spoke Too Soon, there's an update available today! We should assume, however, that this is one of the last of the updates coming for this phone. The countdown has begun...
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trevster said:
Not published on the ATT website
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EQH1 is released to OTA...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...tes-thread-t3663943/post73571927#post73571927
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5UTs_8KnmAjakJUY2FtbklYams/

Ahh right. ATT website will update later then.
https://www.att.com/devicehowto/tut...KM1126949?make=Samsung&model=GalaxyNote4N910A
Still giving the previous update

Shanghai.Knight said:
Lags and crashes increased over time on my Note 4... I sent it in for repair, spent $70, and they replaced almost everything, including the camera... I have, essentially, a brand new Note 4 (I did have to re-unlock the phone).
As far as I'm concerned, the Note 4 is still faster than most mid-range phones out there on the market. I plan on using it for about another year. I'll upgrade to the Note 8 next summer when the Note 9 comes out and I can get Note 8's at a cheap price.
This Note 4 has been the best phone I've ever used thus far...
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Agree on the lags and crashes..also kind of agree with the Note 4 being faster than most mid-rangers in the market, though my P8 Lite 2017 feels a bit faster than my Note 4.
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Well that's poo then I'll find one that takes batteries. Purely because I have a wireless charger for my NOTE 4 so I'll find the next NOTE model up that has a battery.
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Not quiet sure if I'll get another Note even on a higher version as they have become quite expensive for my taste. Maybe a Note 7 FE if they come cheaper someday..
The Note 8 is great and all, but at that price, I can probably get a mid-range tablet convertible and a solid mid-range phone. Lol

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Not quiet sure if I'll get another Note even on a higher version as they have become quite expensive for my taste. Maybe a Note 7 FE if they come cheaper someday..
The Note 8 is great and all, but at that price, I can probably get a mid-range tablet convertible and a solid mid-range phone. Lol
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The Note 4 was $850 new, so $929 isn't that much more, considering inflation, etc. And the Note 8 comes with $200+ in free goodies (wireless charger and 128g card, or 360 camera)...
Wait a while. In 8 months they'll be doing BoGo's and other incentive offers. I bought two Note 4's about a year after it was released. I paid $413 for each.

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The Note 4 was $850 new, so $929 isn't that much more, considering inflation, etc. And the Note 8 comes with $200+ in free goodies (wireless charger and 128g card, or 360 camera)...
Wait a while. In 8 months they'll be doing BoGo's and other incentive offers. I bought two Note 4's about a year after it was released. I paid $413 for each.
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True..I bought my Note 4 a year after release and at roughly the same price you got them.
That might be the path I'll follow, but if my Note 4 gives up on me on the next 3 months, I'll just probably get a mid-ranger in the meantime, since the Note 8 will most likely still be a great device even if you get one after a year.

After a few months I have to say that you were exactly right. I just check the official update page on ATT, they stopped the monthly update since August. But I'm satisfied with 3 years support.

Note 4s are $170 ish now on eBay.
The August 2017 update isn't OTA at all. On the att website, it is displayed as the latest and probably the last update. But definitely not ota so I'd advise downloading from where ever and update like you do with previous updates......4GB SD card, button manipulation blah blah
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Duracell are making batteries for the note 4. Priced at $40 on eBay

I know I might be a freak and a phone collector for the past year or so, but I just bought a brand new Note 4 for $130 I was able to bid on it and win it on ebay. It was just too good deal to pass up as I was randomly checking phones on ebay.
I used this phone for a year as a company phone back in 2016 and it impressed the hell out of me, while I was a huge Apple fan and an iphone 5S user, a that phone felt like a joke, after carrying together with the Note 4.
I quit that job, I got a new one, there is no company phone, but ever since then, I got so used to having 2 phones all the time, that I still carry 2 phones. Nostalgia yeah, but this phone kicks major a$$ even today, mid rangers in the $350-$400 still struggle to show anything better in the first half of 2018. Trust me on this, I tried several (on amazon, bought ->returned it a week later). I have tried 6-7 mid rangers already just in the last year and this, they all disappoint in one or more major areas, while I don't want flagships. My last iphone was an iphone 8 and even that was disappointing, reminded me of my 6S too much and felt like a waste of money so I sold it and from the price I started to buy droids.

Note 4s are found on eBay being sold by the Chinese for around £130 - £170 fully refurbished with Android 5. Purchased 3 in the past and worked very well. Quick update to the latest firmware I have on file which is last year's one but works very well. Bought a xi pack which is cheap so I can charge it wirelessly. The next phone maybe the note 5 which is on eBay for £315 so still new but I'll wait a year and see how much it's come down to

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Note 4s are found on eBay being sold by the Chinese for around £130 - £170 fully refurbished with Android 5. Purchased 3 in the past and worked very well. Quick update to the latest firmware I have on file which is last year's one but works very well. Bought a xi pack which is cheap so I can charge it wirelessly. The next phone maybe the note 5 which is on eBay for £315 so still new but I'll wait a year and see how much it's come down to
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Uhm..Note 5 isn't much of an upgrade to the Note 4, but the Note 8 is still relatively new and it's still quite expensive.. Maybe a Note FE perhaps?

my note 2 broke and at the time the note 5 was newest. the note4 was nolonger sold in stores but ATT website still had it available. i bought it from the website because i wanted expandable sd and replaceable battery. about a week ago my phone started lagging badly and would shutdown and restart. i assumed a update broke something because i just replaced the battery a few days earlier because it felt like it was draining quicker than usual.
well i went into att store and they informed me that i was overdue for a upgrade, exactly 4 days before my phone started acting messed up. i think they do something to intentionally break your phone so you have no choice but to upgrade. Now i have a cheap LG x venture.. What can i do with this note4? can i install a different operating system on it? maybe linux or atleast a clean version of android so i can use it like a tablet?

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Should I buy Galaxy Note 8 or the upcoming 10.1 (2014)?

Hi all,
I am looking into buying a Samsung Galaxy Note series tablet, as a key feature for me is the ability to take hand written notes with the S-pen. So clearly, I have two choices, if I want to stick with the current hardware cycle: Galaxy Note 8 or the upcoming Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 edition). I primarily want to use the tablet to take notes in class, and to read PDF files and comment etc. on the PDF files.
I wanted to ask you guys what should I buy? Firstly, I would like if you can answer me the following: Is the 8 inch screen on the galaxy note 8 big enough to comfortably take notes in a classroom (my use case would be notes in a university classroom, relatively fast paced).
Now in my eyes, the pros of the Galaxy note 8 are:
1. It is already available. It's been out for a while and so I know real world usage and of any existent bugs etc. It already got a price cut.
2. Much cheaper than the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014.
3. Has decent specs, and from my experience handwriting feels more natural than the old galaxy note 10.1.
4. More portable than the larger 10 inch one.
Also pros for the Galaxy note 10.1 2014 would be:
1. Far more powerful than the 8. Latest and greatest, so no worries on being outdated.
2. Larger screen, probably even better at handwriting.
So what would be best for my usage? Will I be well catered for with the cheaper Galaxy tab 8 for taking notes? Is it snappy and powerful enough? Or should I wait and buy the 10 inch one, that is far more expensive and we dunno real world usage issues and bugs?
Please let me know. Thanks!
$549 for the 16GB model, and $599 for 32GB for upcoming Note 10.1, ....I was planing to get one as 10 inch tablet replacement for my 2 year old Galaxy Tab 10.1, but after seeing the prices,..i decided to wait and see what Google will come up with Nexus 10...I know it won't have SPen....
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$549 for the 16GB model, and $599 for 32GB for upcoming Note 10.1, ....I was planing to get one as 10 inch tablet replacement for my 2 year old Galaxy Tab 10.1, but after seeing the prices,..i decided to wait and see what Google will come up with Nexus 10...I know it won't have SPen....
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Do you use the Galaxy Tab Note 8 for writing notes? Is it too small for note taking purposes?
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Do you use the Galaxy Tab Note 8 for writing notes? Is it too small for note taking purposes?
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you know, I have Nexus 7, ....it is a beautiful tablet, pure android, gets freq update from Google, but my problem I found it is a little small...I have 10 inch tablet, found it is a little big, and it seems like 8 inch tablets are in a perfect spot as far as size goes; it is neither too small, nor too big...of course, it is all about personal preference...that's why I picked Galaxy Tab Note 8 WiFi....I don't quite often use writing notes with SPen, but when I do needed, I am glad that it has SPen, and it is near perfect for taking note on Note 8, when I tried that on Note 10.1, i found it a bit awkward since taking note using SPen on 10 inch tablet does not feel natural. However, if you are artist, and doing a lot of drawing, it is no brainer that big screen is a big plus.
so keep it short; if you are after a tablet that mainly use taking notes and looking for portable, easily fit your hand, not so bulky, then your option is Note 8.0, and Note 8.0 hardware specs not bad at all too. but if you are artist (a lot of drawing,painting, video editing, etc..), then new Note 10.1 is probably good fit.
like I said in my previous post, I was planing to replace my 2 year old galaxy tab 10.1 inch tablet with new Note 10.1 tablet, but until I saw the prices for 32GB, I am giving a sec though whether paying that premium high price worth or not.
I use mine in class at a university all the time I take video of the professor insert in my own notes as well as pictures and so on. It's perfect for that type of application. The s pen is quick to recognize handwriting and pretty accurate once you use it enough you'll really be impressed with what it can do. It's a great tablet for this purpose.
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I use mine in class at a university all the time I take video of the professor insert in my own notes as well as pictures and so on. It's perfect for that type of application. The s pen is quick to recognize handwriting and pretty accurate once you use it enough you'll really be impressed with what it can do. It's a great tablet for this purpose.
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I think I will give this one last test drive at BestBuy and just buy it!
I think I will be happy to save about $200 buying this rather than buying the more expensive 10.1..
By the way, are there any deals currently to get this at a lower price point than $359? Thanks
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By the way, are there any deals currently to get this at a lower price point than $359? Thanks
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I bought mine from Staples for $259 with discounts. In the forum, there is a coupon for $75 off (from Staples). It expires on September 28.
Royaltiger said:
I bought mine from Staples for $259 with discounts. In the forum, there is a coupon for $75 off (from Staples). It expires on September 28.
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But there is no Staples near me with that tablet in stock!
I'm surprised no one has said "it depends on you" yet. I've actually owned both a Note 10.1 and now the Note 8.0. I obviously can't speak to the 10.1 2014, but the thing I disliked about the 10 was the weight and the charge time. The larger screen was nice for watching movies, but the weight made it suck for watching a full length feature film. As for the stylus part, the Note 10 seems better for artwork, but crappier for writing.
What I like about the Note 8 is the weight, charge time, and it is much better for taking notes. I use it all the time for taking notes now. The screen, while smaller, is much more crisp too.
I can say that I would not buy the Note 10.1 2014 on launch day though. Just look at the Note 8. Released at $399, within like a month you could get it for $349. Now I've frequently seen it for $299. That's a pretty big cut for a device that hasn't been around long. I'm guessing the new 10 would be similar. Give it 3-4 months and you'll get a substantial savings. Unless of course money is no object to you.
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I'm surprised no one has said "it depends on you" yet. I've actually owned both a Note 10.1 and now the Note 8.0. I obviously can't speak to the 10.1 2014, but the thing I disliked about the 10 was the weight and the charge time. The larger screen was nice for watching movies, but the weight made it suck for watching a full length feature film. As for the stylus part, the Note 10 seems better for artwork, but crappier for writing.
What I like about the Note 8 is the weight, charge time, and it is much better for taking notes. I use it all the time for taking notes now. The screen, while smaller, is much more crisp too.
I can say that I would not buy the Note 10.1 2014 on launch day though. Just look at the Note 8. Released at $399, within like a month you could get it for $349. Now I've frequently seen it for $299. That's a pretty big cut for a device that hasn't been around long. I'm guessing the new 10 would be similar. Give it 3-4 months and you'll get a substantial savings. Unless of course money is no object to you.
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Well everyone. I am very thankful for your replies. It gave me a LOT better picture of the whole thing. I dived right in and bought the Galaxy Note 8 for a measly $238 after taxes thanks to the amazing offer from Staples. It will be here by next week so unfortunately I can't play around with it yet! But yeah, I've tried the tablet several times in stores, found that the stylus is a lot more crisp in response than the old 10.1 and display is pretty good too. I think at this price point, buying a note 8 was definitely the more sensible option, I can't choke down the $549 price of the Note 10.1. And I really don't want to wait months for the price to go down. I need a tablet that can take notes right now...
at $600 I'd rather grab a windows tablet. i've got both 700t and 500t but i'llbe giving my daughter the 500t soon. $550 last year was really pushing it, but at $600 you've hit laptop pricing. i'llprobably grab another old 10.1 since the hardware is still pretty powerful and going for $300 refurb. I sold my old one for $300 earlier is year and regret it every day, lol.
litetaker said:
Well everyone. I am very thankful for your replies. It gave me a LOT better picture of the whole thing. I dived right in and bought the Galaxy Note 8 for a measly $238 after taxes thanks to the amazing offer from Staples. It will be here by next week so unfortunately I can't play around with it yet! But yeah, I've tried the tablet several times in stores, found that the stylus is a lot more crisp in response than the old 10.1 and display is pretty good too. I think at this price point, buying a note 8 was definitely the more sensible option, I can't choke down the $549 price of the Note 10.1. And I really don't want to wait months for the price to go down. I need a tablet that can take notes right now...
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For $238 Galaxy Note 8 is a steal. Lucky that you were able to get from Stable, since many stores sold out like crazy because of $75 off coupon...
it is weird that $75 off coupon only for samsung devices, I wonder if they are clearing the inventory for Samsung devices...
I received my Note 8 in a shipment today. This is the one I bought from Staples for $238 with all those discounts. But I noticed that the seal of the box was tampered with! It says clearly across the seal to not accept it if the seal is tampered. It looks fine inside, but do you think this is a refurb or a return??? How dare they ship me a used piece! I am supposed to get a brand new one :/
Also, I think I am having some trouble registering this device to at Samsung's galaxy perk website.. The perks are extended till December 31, so the deadline ain't the issue!
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I bought mine from Staples for $259 with discounts. In the forum, there is a coupon for $75 off (from Staples). It expires on September 28.
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How do I access the coupon???? Please let me know how I can purchase the note 8.0 for less than 300.00. Thank you
2jay said:
How do I access the coupon???? Please let me know how I can purchase the note 8.0 for less than 300.00. Thank you
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The Staples deal is over. Expired on September 28. Sorry.
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I received my Note 8 in a shipment today. This is the one I bought from Staples for $238 with all those discounts. But I noticed that the seal of the box was tampered with! It says clearly across the seal to not accept it if the seal is tampered. It looks fine inside, but do you think this is a refurb or a return??? How dare they ship me a used piece! I am supposed to get a brand new one :/
Also, I think I am having some trouble registering this device to at Samsung's galaxy perk website.. The perks are extended till December 31, so the deadline ain't the issue!
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If you have a Staples store nearby, you could exchange it without any problem.
Hate Samsung because of not to release note 8 2014 at the same time of note 3 & note 10 2014.
Note 8 2013 was also, then it was configured similar to note 2 & note 10 2013, although 1/2 year later.

On the fence need opinions...

I have owned every note from 1-3. My note 3 i replaced so many parts on since it suffered a lot of dropping abuse on my end and ironically the first phone I decided to go caseless on. I am quite the android fanboy to say but I have also owned every iphone to toy around with. My note 3 died around the time the iphone 6 came out. I decided to rock a 6 plus till the note 4 came out. At first I was just totally frustrated by all of ios short comings and restrictions. Coming from a noted and highly customized note 3, it was a total pain in the ass. In the past 2-3 weeks I have however developed quite a liking toward my 6 plus, while eagerly waiting the note 4 release. I played with the note 4 several times at best buy and was about to buy one out of contract today from someone who preordered. I do not have upgrade available atm, my next upgrade would be in about 40 days or so. I could get a note 4 for 600 flat tomorrow new off contract which isn't bad considering upgrading thru sprint is 400 with activation and taxes. Now I am heavily considering if the note 4 is worth switching to. I have to admit I was not a heavy s pen user and multi window I used rarely. My 6 plus has battery life that I have never experienced on a smart phone since this one really really odd note 2 ( i had the note 2 in both colors and on 2 diff carriers)that I had that seem to last forever. My question is do you guys feel I should wait and hold out for the note edge? While I am highly attracted to the note 4, the edge is really captured me when the two phones were announced. Anyone else making the move from a 6+?
Go with the Note 4
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I have owned every note from 1-3. My note 3 i replaced so many parts on since it suffered a lot of dropping abuse on my end and ironically the first phone I decided to go caseless on. I am quite the android fanboy to say but I have also owned every iphone to toy around with. My note 3 died around the time the iphone 6 came out. I decided to rock a 6 plus till the note 4 came out. At first I was just totally frustrated by all of ios short comings and restrictions. Coming from a noted and highly customized note 3, it was a total pain in the ass. In the past 2-3 weeks I have however developed quite a liking toward my 6 plus, while eagerly waiting the note 4 release. I played with the note 4 several times at best buy and was about to buy one out of contract today from someone who preordered. I do not have upgrade available atm, my next upgrade would be in about 40 days or so. I could get a note 4 for 600 flat tomorrow new off contract which isn't bad considering upgrading thru sprint is 400 with activation and taxes. Now I am heavily considering if the note 4 is worth switching to. I have to admit I was not a heavy s pen user and multi window I used rarely. My 6 plus has battery life that I have never experienced on a smart phone since this one really really odd note 2 ( i had the note 2 in both colors and on 2 diff carriers)that I had that seem to last forever. My question is do you guys feel I should wait and hold out for the note edge? While I am highly attracted to the note 4, the edge is really captured me when the two phones were announced. Anyone else making the move from a 6+?
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between the 2 i would choose the note 4 as well..but i would also look at the nexus 6 that was just announced that sounds just as good minus the s-pen

Any Nexus 6P owners upgrading to the Note 7?

Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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I'm definitely on the fence about the whole bootloader thing, but I don't think it's gonna be a huge deciding factor for me. Actually reserved a Black Onyx version already haha.
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Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice. [/URL]
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I've had the Note 3, 4, 5, S7 Edge etc... I switch phones alot... Had a bunch from HTC, all the iPhones etc...
The 6P's main strength is the software - mainly the unlocked bootloader and the quick updates.
Although I preferred some of Samsung's software features like camera and gallery and some of TouchWiz's aesthetics.
From a hardware perspective though, that phone sucks compared to the Note 5 or any other modern Samsung device. It doesn't feel as premium, bluetooth issues, EMMC, and a bunch of other stuff that bothered me. So I ended up returning it and going back to the Note 5.
Samsung has been getting a lot better with software, as far as TouchWiz - each version continues to get better. Now that their new head of mobile is a software guy, I think it only gets better.
They have also been pretty good in regards to updates - at least monthly security updates. However, the carriers still slow them down due to their idiotic demands regarding updates and testing etc...
Which in turns affects the user and makes us mad at Samsung when really we should be annoyed with our carriers.
In my experience from all these years of owning many many phones from both iOS and Android.
I think the iPhone and Samsung reigns supreme as far as premium quality, premium flagship devices.
I would consider another Nexus somewhere down the line if they made a nice one but I still don't think (unless Google directly is involved in the hardware) that it will compete with Apple and Samsung when it comes to that premium quality device.
i preordered it, i really enjoyed my note 3 before the nexus 6 and 6p. im hoping the note 7 has rom support like my tmobile note 3 did
I'm coming from a N6P and pre-ordered.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
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Yea same, I DID have it reserved but unreserved it once I read that the Canadians are getting the SD 820 version and not the Exynos like I was hoping. Even Best Buy is saying that its the Exynos version but Rogers and Bell reps are saying its gonna be the SD. Imma wait and see which one it actually is before making a choice.
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Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I'll definitely gonna check out the local one by me and see if they have it.
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
Nexus 6P to P9 Plus to Note 7
I'm kinda on the fence here. I really love my 6p for the unmatched buttery smoothness of the interface and the fact that we'll be on Nougat one of these days already. But honestly I've been missing the gorgeous screen that Samsung offers in their top range products and I also do love the design of the Note 7. I'm a bit afraid though that the interface just won't be as smooth as the 6p and that would definitely start to irritate me. And Samsung's update policy sucks so hard that that's also a factor ...
I wanted to upgrade to the Nexus Marlin by HTC which is due for next month but I don't like the specs too much so far, let alone the design. So not sure yet what I'll do .. But since I'm an update freak I'll probably go ahead and buy the Note 7 one of these days, a year with the same phone is just too boring
borisb said:
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it. You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
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It's no secret. It's been that way since I bought my SGS2 gray market in 2011. They really don't want phones sold in one region and imported to another. They won't even repair an international phone in the U.S. if you're willing to pay for it. Some intermediaries (Expansys, Clove, Handtec) will have grey market devices they've sold repaired under warranty on your behalf. For the latter two the warranty is two years. But I agree Samsung's policy is a little Orwellian.
As for service I've been lucky. I dropped my Note5 the same day I got it and shattered the back glass. Samsung's repair center fixed it for $75 and covered the roundtrip shipping and I got it back in a week.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I haven't followed it that closely but I was under the impression they got better - at least in major markets like the UK and EU. I know they're awful in smaller markets and can also be flaky with keeping Asian markets in sync. I was thinking of getting a grey market Note7 to be free of AT&T's "customizations" and specifically to get updates directly from Samsung. If I were too I would have bought the UK version specifically for the warranty coverage. I stuck with AT&T because being on Next buying a phone outright made no economical sense.
yup, Nexus 6P after my note 4 spontaneously bricked (about 5 months ago).
I love it, but It's a lot heavier and i *really* miss one hand mode and the stylus...
Preordered the Note7. Currently have the 6P. I had the Note 4 as my personal device before the 6p. For work I have the G5 and had the Note 5 before. I work in the industry and have played around with the Note7 this week. it's a beast.
The hardware on the Note7 is mind blowing (although they REALLY could have bumped up the CPU, RAM, maybe the battery, the DAC, and FF camera). The software on the 6P wins every single time though. Yes, Samsung has a lot more built-in features. But stock Android has a special feel to it that Samsung just can't touch. I could overlook that though, if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad. Also, Samsung needs to pull their heads out of their ass and make a way to unlock the phone without having to press or swipe anything. I HATE pressing down the home button to scan my fingerprint. It just sucks compared to placing your finger there. Also, the iris scanner forcing you to swipe the lock screen away (so now we require button press, a swipe, and locking onto your eyes) is a step in the wrong ****ing direction.
I have Note 5 and 6p, in my experience the Note 5 load apps faster and smoother than the 6p, and i have tried both Developer previews and the stock versions. I stopped rooting since the Note 4. I got 6p because of the looks and the front speakers and the first to get fresh android OS, also as i would be traveling soon i will be using the 6p outside the country. Am on the verge of pre-ordering, i like having to be the first to get these phones, but with Samsung it has thought me many lessons to wait for better free bundled gifts, so am hoping i won't miss out this time if i wait November or December.
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if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad.
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Yeah I'm quite afraid that the 6P will be a lot smoother than the Note7 indeed, which would make me regret buying it ... But then again, that gorgeous display is so nice ... Really on the fence here

any similar phones out there?

I've been on a year-long hunt for a new phone SPRINT compatible, and they all seem like downgrades. here's my checklist of features and how important they are (10) or aren't (1) to me:
1. unlocked / unlockable bootloader WITHOUT need for exploits: 10
2. sdcard slot: 10
3. user replaceable battery: 9
4. 3gb+ ram: 9
5. 2.4 ghz or faster, quadcore or SYNCHRONOUS octa: 8
6. finger print reader: 7
7. infrared blaster: 6
8. likely to OFFICIALLY receive android 8.0 update: 6
9. optical stabilized camera: 5
10. quick charge 2.0 or better: 7
95% off all devices ever since my contract expired December 1st last year either fail at Sprint network compatibility, or bootloader. over time I'm gradually accepting defeat on user replaceable batteries ;(
closest candidate for me is the lg v20 but there's virtually no breakthrough features on it to justify a 2 year "upgrade" to it from the note 4
I had an s5, bought a used note 4 about 8 months ago. (I've been using smart phones for about 15 years, since the ppc6700)
Had an upgrade available, was in the same boat. Purchased a g6 and sold my note. I sold my g6 yesterday and bought another used note.
Moral of the story?
If your current model makes you happy and there isn't a new phone that will make you more happy... Perhaps it's time to keep what you have. The v20 is nice, but without a home button... How much of an upgrade is it really? What will it really do that you can't do now? Perhaps complete a task in 7/10ths of a second faster?
Save your money. I'll be sticking with the note 4 for a long time. In the evolution of cell phone technology, the note 4 was a major pivot point. I don't see anything out there that doesn't include disgusting compromises.
I do wish the note 4 was waterproof, but I'll live. Heck... I could buy several replacements (if I damaged it) for less money then I would spend on a new phone.
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Okay?
mrtomaso said:
(I've been using smart phones for about 15 years, since the ppc6700)
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Great phone. Use to connect to my clients Servers to do maintenance and watch live TV with my Sling unit way, way before this was a thing.
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rowlette_weiss said:
Great phone. Use to connect to my clients Servers to do maintenance and watch live TV with my Sling unit way, way before this was a thing.
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I remember coworkers (nicely) mocking me for using it. 'why would anyone want a big phone!' - couple of years later they all had their phablets.
Unfortunately, there is no upgrade that meets your requirements. When I broke my Note 4, I went with the Note Edge. Phone sucks compared to the regular note. I researched the V20, G6, G5. None of the current phones do what I want them to do. I almost got the V20, but xposed not being available for Nougat led me to get another Note 4. I think I'll be using Note 4's for the forseeable future. This has been by far my favorite phone, so I'm not complaining.
the LGV20 imo is the true successor to the note 4
made the jump 2 months ago and loving it
I refuse to buy a phone without an interchangeable battery......im a heavy user so stock batteries suck, I need my extended batteries

Anyone hesitant due to Pixel 4 XL?

This is the one phone that made me hesitant to get the Note10+. The Project Soli radar stuff and the likely incredible camera plus 90Hz display make that phone seem like it may be special.
But alas, I use my s-pen nonstop and adore it. So this will be the phone for me (eventually, when stupid Samsung ships it).
Got burnt by a canceled order with no real explanation from Samsung. Cannot order again or I will simply lose all the pre-order perks I was entitled to. May wait now for the pixel 4.
I bought the 3XL on release and there were many bugs in the beginning. Google really made me disappointed at first.
I suspect the face unlock feature won't be great and if the rumors are true there will be no wide angle and the design of the device looks kind of dated. 90Hz is great though but so is the s-pen.
If it turns out to be good I'll get one and switch between it and the 10+.
Nah. I'm here because I already made my purchase. I loved my OG Pixel XL, still can spot the photos in my Google drive by how awesome they were but at the same time there were too many quality issues and I hated dealing with their tech support.
And it was a boring experience for me.
You are a beta tester for Google and you pay the price to be. (Always been a Nexus/Pixel user) Everything you bought the Nexus for they took away with Pixel and slapped a bigger price tag on it. Only thing you get thats "better" than other Androids is the Camera but the GCam APK does a pretty good job at making up for it. You will have better hardware and honestly One UI isnt all that bad.
I ported the same GCam apk I ran on my N8 on my N10+ and the results are even better... Can't believe it works beautifully. I mainly use it for NightMode and Photo booth. I'm sure once they tweak the GCAm apk for the 10+ the margin of improvement will be even more pronounced. My 2..
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Not a single hesitation or complaint from me. Love my N10+. When I had my Note 8, I bought a Pixel 2XL and loved it. For about 2 weeks. Then it was just boring, and I missed the SPen, and kept wishing it did the things my Note did. Finally sold it for a Note 9 and never looked back. With GCam, I have no need for a Pixel.
the google phones work ok, but they often miss features of the other third party manufacturers as they are just basic stripped down android.
as for the 90hz screen, for the average user unless you are using VR the difference will likely be negligible at best, you will need to find apps and things capable of pushing 90fps and not locked at 60fps as most apps will be built to support, you are also likely to see a massive increase in battery use as the device is having to generate and place 50% more frames on the screen and the Pixel device batteries have never exactly been top class to start with. so in theory if you are using VR and staying near a charger the 90hz is likely to be an increase if your VR apps support it, but for the most case you are likely to see a battery use increase for little real world improvement.
Nope I will have both, as long as pixel gets me excited!
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This is the one phone that made me hesitant to get the Note10+. The Project Soli radar stuff and the likely incredible camera plus 90Hz display make that phone seem like it may be special.
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Exaclty for the same reasons, Yes.
I grabbed the Sammy everytime on prebooking, not this time. I might still have it for separate reasons, just will not be with me as daily driver for long.
oneandroidnut said:
Nope I will have both, as long as pixel gets me excited!
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I've never understood how people have two phones. How's that even work?
PsiPhiDan said:
I've never understood how people have two phones. How's that even work?
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Easy. See you buy one phone. Then you keep it, and buy another phone, and keep that one as well.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Easy. See you buy one phone. Then you keep it, and buy another phone, and keep that one as well.
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Haha, I guess I had that coming...
Do you have two phone numbers?
How do you choose what phone you use any given day?
How do you afford that and get a theoretical spouse on board with that? ?
Ok you guys made me want to try gcam. Where and how do I install it? Does it need root?
PsiPhiDan said:
Haha, I guess I had that coming...
Do you have two phone numbers?
How do you choose what phone you use any given day?
How do you afford that and get a theoretical spouse on board with that? ?
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Yes I have two lines. One was a free line from T-Mobile. It will become my daughter's line when she turns 12, but for now, it's my extra line. I use Google Voice, so switching back and forth is no biggie.
How I wound up with two phones: in the past I never bought brand new phones. I bought broke phones on eBay, fixed them, and sold them for a profit. I would save up that money and buy a phone, or just eventually keep one of the phones I fixed. I eventually worked my way up to a S7 Edge. Actually my wife and I both had S7 Edges.
Then when Samsung released the S8+, they had a buy one get one free deal. So I bought four of them. Kept two (one for me, one for my wife), sold the other two, plus my wife's S7 Edge. So our S8 Plues were basically free, and I was able to keep my S7 Edge as a backup phone.
When the Note 8 came out, I didn't immediately upgrade. But about 3 months after it was released, I snagged one off FB Marketplace for $400. Sold my S7 Edge for $225 and kept my S8+ as a backup.
Same for Note 9. Found a cheap one used, sold the S8+, kept the Note 8.
This is the first time in a few years I have been down to one phone. I sold my Note 8 for $400 and used that to buy a Galaxy Tab S4 for $400. (which I just sold today for $400, LOL). I traded my Note 9 in on my N10+, so it's also the first time in a couple years since I've had a brand new phone, and I'm preordering a Tab S6, too.
How do I get my wife on board? I upgrade her phone as well. And she knows I never pay full price for a phone. Each time I upgrade, it's usually for almost free or just a couple hundred bucks.
For example, because of me selling a phone, trading in a phone, getting some cash back on a credit card, my Note 10+ cost me $131 total. My Tab S6 will cost me about $108 total.
My wife's S10+ cost me $250. That S8+ I bought her brand new (which was basically free)...I sold it on FB Market place for $400. I then bought her a used S9+ for $400. When the S10+ was released, I traded her SO+ in for $550. And I had a $250 cash back offer on a credit card at the time too. It's all about moving money around, buying and selling, and looking for good deals.
People go with pixel for the camera ,and the early software update ...but rather than that ...Galaxy phones are better in any other way
koppee1 said:
Ok you guys made me want to try gcam. Where and how do I install it? Does it need root?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
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https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
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None for note 10?
Dropping off my N10+ at UPS this morning. Phone didn't blow my tits off like I was hoping it would. Juice is not worth the squeeze on this one, IMO. Pixel 4 may do it for me but we'll see.
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None for note 10?
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Phone was just released 2 days ago lol. Try the N8 or n9 versions. Same sensors.

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