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Camera HDR feature

Do you think the HDR feature enhances pictures?
Ps camera is superb
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It enhances colours i think, like comparing dvd to HD. I love it

heard in software version 29 they are improving the feature too should look even better

submission7 said:
Do you think the HDR feature enhances pictures?
Ps camera is superb
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Yes if you have stable hands. as it takes 3 shots (i think) at different exposures and merge them. to produce one detailed picture with sharper and more vibrant color at least depending on the shot.

submission7 said:
Do you think the HDR feature enhances pictures?
Ps camera is superb
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It works as long as you have steady hands. It takes one overexposed shot, one underexposed, one normal, and combines all the best detail and colors from each shot to get the best image.
So you can have photo of a bright foreground subject with good detail, and also a good detail/brightness background.

Ripley said:
It enhances colours i think, like comparing dvd to HD. I love it
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No, it enhances the dynamic range of the picture. No for fast moving objects though because it should work by taking several shots at different exposure settings and combines them to achieve that effect. Basically you have the white and near-white differentiation from the under exposed shot and the black and near-black from the overexposed shot. That way you have neither overblown ares in your picture (white spots) nor dark areas (black spots).
Compared to our eyes camera sensors have relatively small dynamic range so HDR helps there but sometimes it makes the shot unrealistic (which might be the desired effect)
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submission7 said:
Do you think the HDR feature enhances pictures?
Ps camera is superb
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The camera APP is pretty terrible. I LOVE the UI though, but it compresses images waaay too much. I use a third party app to bypass the compression, and the quality is so much better

Sybregunne said:
Yes if you have stable hands.
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this also depends on the surroundings and the light situation.
just an example - HDR with stock camera and no tripod, just held the One X in my hands. (dropbox link)
@submission7
so yes, in some situations, HDR can produce a better outcome/photo.
just try it out and you'll find for yourself when/where it works best

ArmedandDangerous said:
The camera APP is pretty terrible. I LOVE the UI though, but it compresses images waaay too much. I use a third party app to bypass the compression, and the quality is so much better
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Which third party app bypasses the compression? I would love to get it
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ASavva said:
Which third party app bypasses the compression? I would love to get it
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I heard camera FX does but not sure.

I tried the HDR yest during sunset, my wife had the sun behind her and seriously amazing stuff all you have to do is a hold still for a bit, i took like 10 photos all without any ghosting, its not like Desire HD where you had to really hold still for a normal photo lol!
amazed to say the least, sorry its photos of my girl so i can't share them

Camera360 also bypasses the compression.
But with the last update (1.29) the stock camera app improved as well...

A really nice, upcoming app is Camera FV-5. The developer already announced many improvements/bugfixes for HTC One X.

stetre76 said:
Camera360 also bypasses the compression.
But with the last update (1.29) the stock camera app improved as well...
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Hi, i'd like to know how did it improve, is the image compression better? or anything else ?

compared to the previous firmware versions (1.26 & 1.28) the compression isn't that strong any more.
compared to other camera apps however, it's still strong(er), but personally I can live with that.

hamdir said:
I tried the HDR yest during sunset, my wife had the sun behind her and seriously amazing stuff all you have to do is a hold still for a bit, i took like 10 photos all without any ghosting, its not like Desire HD where you had to really hold still for a normal photo lol!
amazed to say the least, sorry its photos of my girl so i can't share them
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HDR has nothing to do with ghosting though It just takes properly exposed, overexposed and underexposed shots of the same thing and merges all three.
ASavva said:
Which third party app bypasses the compression? I would love to get it
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Like the previous reply, Camera360 bypasses it, but still uses the sensor so the images are much better.

thanks for all your replies...will try it out...
PS do other phones have this capability ie not the one series or is it fairly unique to us like the multi snapper trigger happy mode

ArmedandDangerous said:
HDR has nothing to do with ghosting though It just takes properly exposed, overexposed and underexposed shots of the same thing and merges all three...
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The phone takes three images so if you move the camera after pressing the shutter you will see ghosting. The One X shutter lag is shorter then the DHD that's why it's easier to take HDR with the One X.

ArmedandDangerous said:
HDR has nothing to do with ghosting though It just takes properly exposed, overexposed and underexposed shots of the same thing and merges all three..
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yes it does, if you or your subject move you get difference in the three images and hence some ghosting
the fast shutter speed in the One X is helping immensely in this regards

hamdir said:
yes it does, if you or your subject move you get difference in the three images and hence some ghosting
the fast shutter speed in the One X is helping immensely in this regards
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True in a way, but the essence of a HDR image is one being overexposed, hence a slower shutter (or depending, a software EV+ and keeping the same shutter speed).

Image Quality?

Considering it is a 2017 device, can we expect the camera quality to be at par with the new fad of "dual" lens? I don't mean the effects...I mean the resolution and clarity.

X0LARIUM said:
Considering it is a 2017 device, can we expect the camera quality to be at par with the new fad of "dual" lens? I don't mean the effects...I mean the resolution and clarity.
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I wasn't very pleased with the camera. The quality is just fine but more megapixels doesn't always mean a better picture. Low light always seems to render images or videos with a red or orange hue. Any zooming and the pictures get way too noisey. In the right light I've taken some great shots. Another thing to look out for is movement and facial tracking. If your subject isn't perfectly still, having facial tracking for focus seriously hinders the shutter speed so I find it best to turn it off when taking pictures of parties and kids and things that are moving.

jaybles said:
I wasn't very pleased with the camera. The quality is just fine but more megapixels doesn't always mean a better picture. Low light always seems to render images or videos with a red or orange hue. Any zooming and the pictures get way too noisey. In the right light I've taken some great shots. Another thing to look out for is movement and facial tracking. If your subject isn't perfectly still, having facial tracking for focus seriously hinders the shutter speed so I find it best to turn it off when taking pictures of parties and kids and things that are moving.
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Hmmm..over the weekend... I played with the device on display at some store. Wasn't very happy with the speed and performance. Didn't feel like a 2017 device. My 3 year old Nexus 6 is faster lol.. So..don't think I would be buying one (not at this price at least).

X0LARIUM said:
Hmmm..over the weekend... I played with the device on display at some store. Wasn't very happy with the speed and performance. Didn't feel like a 2017 device. My 3 year old Nexus 6 is faster lol.. So..don't think I would be buying one (not at this price at least).
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The speed of the phone has nothing to do with the image quality of the camera....
Like jaybles, I also struggle with the camera quality and are having the same red, purple noisy tint in very Low Light in Manual Mode, but also it can be a struggle to take steady shots in Manual Mode in daylight.. However, thanks to the Newer updated imaging algorithm found in the XZ1 and XZP which from what Ive read, SONY have used in the XA1U... it functions really great in Auto Mode, so SONY phones can now be used as great Point and Shoots.. and we no longer have to struggle anymore with ISO, WB and Metreing.
Ive found that by setting the camera to 12MPX in Manual Mode... gives great shots... 20 and 23MPx modes give camera shake and poor image quality in Manual Mode..

why the 1+ 5T has 2 lenses?

Guys can anyone explain the utility of the second camera??

For night time shoots low light lens

Ranop11 said:
For night time shoots low light lens
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Lot of reviewers are saying it doesn't have any effect on low light photos

2nd lens is for taking pictures when light level is below 10 lux, for portrait mode and for autofocusing.
But in reality, the mechanism involved for taking low light pics is kind of useless and the end result is gimmicky and useless.

it's for bokeh effect and depth sening

AlMaghraby said:
it's for bokeh effect and depth sening
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Nope you're wrong. The depth effect and bokkeh on one plus 5t are software based

Docxsido said:
Nope you're wrong. The depth effect and bokkeh on one plus 5t are software based
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if so try to block the other lens while trying to do portrait

AlMaghraby said:
if so try to block the other lens while trying to do portrait
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The have the same focal length bro, they can't do a hardware bokkeh

Docxsido said:
The have the same focal length bro, they can't do a hardware bokkeh
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they can
one is collecting depth data the other is photo
also the portrait mode is limited to a distance where there is focusing contrast

Docxsido said:
The have the same focal length bro, they can't do a hardware bokkeh
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Try this...

Yep it's basically useless lens. Cheap way to make it more attractive for noobs

It's low light camera. I can definetly see them switch sometimes.
Also has a wider FOV (i don't know why), look at 1080p 60. Although i think that is without the EIS cut-in.
Also the bokeh effect can be done by having one focus near (at face) and one focus far (at landscape), and the bits in focus at far are blurred more. It is basically software, but with two lenses it can be better.

Possible to take better photos with ASUS Rog Phone 2

I came across a video on YouTube which shows how we can take better photos with the Rog Phone 2 using the Google Camera.
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What are your thoughts?
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I've seen several of these comparisons, and I often prefer the stock camera images over the Gcam images. The ones of the toy car and phone in that video are prime examples.
I suggest learning manual controls. Even if you don't use it in normal shooting, understanding what's going on with settings will help you take better photos. Remember, only you know what kind of photo you want, not some random programmer that never met you. Because of that, auto modes can be hit and miss, and understanding manual controls will allow you to quickly adjust for those times auto mode isn't working for you.

We need to make a camera thread, the photos from this phone are actually good without gcam

Jjallda9 said:
We need to make a camera thread, the photos from this phone are actually good without gcam
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Lol. They are? The camera on this phone blows.

This phone struggles a lot in low light without gcam, tested both night mode on stock vs gcam

zed011 said:
This phone struggles a lot in low light without gcam, tested both night mode on stock vs gcam
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No ois, it will never be good.

suzook said:
Lol. They are? The camera on this phone blows.
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In good lighting it does much better than what I would have expected, and compared to my iPhone 11pro they are not horrible. Now taking photos at night that's a different story .

Jjallda9 said:
In good lighting it does much better than what I would have expected, and compared to my iPhone 11pro they are not horrible. Now taking photos at night that's a different story .
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Lol. iPhone 11 and rog2 in daylight? No contest. Rog2 looks like Nexus 4.

suzook said:
No ois, it will never be good.
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OIS is over-hyped anyway for a phone. The range of motion to correct isn't very big with such a small sensor. I've seen a test video of the electronic stabilization, and it worked extremely well.

Mr_Mooncatt said:
OIS is over-hyped anyway for a phone. The range of motion to correct isn't very big with such a small sensor. I've seen a test video of the electronic stabilization, and it worked extremely well.
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What do you think nightsight does? It uses ois in nightshots for better images. You have no clue. Move along.

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suzook said:
Lol. iPhone 11 and rog2 in daylight? No contest. Rog2 looks like Nexus 4.
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I just uploaded a couple photos, I'm no photographer but these are pretty good.

suzook said:
What do you think nightsight does? It uses ois in nightshots for better images. You have no clue. Move along.
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From https://www.blog.google/products/pixel/see-light-night-sight/
If your subject moves during the capture, Night Sight can adapt to prevent a modest amount of motion from ruining the shot. Instead of capturing one bright and blurry photo, Night Sight captures an equal amount of light over a burst of many photos that are dark but sharp. By merging this burst, Night Sight prevents motion blur and brightens the photo, giving you a bright and sharp photo.
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As you were saying?

suzook said:
No ois, it will never be good.
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That's not true I have a pixel 1 with no OIS and it's fine in night mode

zed011 said:
That's not true I have a pixel 1 with no OIS and it's fine in night mode
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My V20 has it and I can get maybe a notch slower shutter speed than without. Not much difference. If it was something like Pentax's full frame DSLR, that gives 5 stops of shake reduction, that would be a big difference.

Does S20+ Exynos camer has HDR issue?

Using Galaxy S20+ for about 2 weeks but noticed the HDR processing of the camera is very bad & everything in the sky is very over exposed and blown out. Every time taking a picture in indoor having a window on the shoot ether the sky on outside is very blown out or there is no light in room & some time both happens together. I'm wondering is there any HDR mechanism at all in the camera?

Sohag0910 said:
Using Galaxy S20+ for about 2 weeks but noticed the HDR processing of the camera is very bad & everything in the sky is very over exposed and blown out. Every time taking a picture in indoor having a window on the shoot ether the sky on outside is very blown out or there is no light in room & some time both happens together. I'm wondering is there any HDR mechanism at all in the camera?
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If you mean by the white tint at the curtain, thats the glare from the light on the camera lens. Can't be avoided by software.
I'm the old days, hdr is obtained by taking the same shot with higher exposure setting, normal exposure setting and lower exposure setting and combine all 3 into one.
In modern camera, it is done automatically and usually only up and down a few steps.
Unfortunately for your case, it require more than just a few steps. The brightness difference is just too great between outside and inside.
If you really want to take those unimpressive shots, what you can do is focus outside and set the exposure for outside. Then switch on the flash and use it as fill in flash. The shot will come out better.
But honestly try to take something better.
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I'm taking about the blown out sky.

It's because the camera is exposing for the dark interior, and the sky outside is far too bright for even HDR to compensate for.
As mentioned, you can set the exposure for the sky outside, and use a fill flash to bring up the brightness of the room you're in.

Sohag0910 said:
I'm taking about the blown out sky.
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Yes. That's what I meant.
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Are you sure you have the hdr activated? Exynos are known to be better than the snapdragon regarding hdr, and it works flawless on my ultra.

nyttnick said:
Are you sure you have the hdr activated? Exynos are known to be better than the snapdragon regarding hdr, and it works flawless on my ultra.
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HDR was activated & seen many phones handle this situation better than this. All the current Huawei, apple, Google or even oneplus phone has much better HDR processing than this

Mine s20 ultra exynos hav much better hdr than that. Think youre phone is faulty.

Sohag0910 said:
HDR was activated & seen many phones handle this situation better than this. All the current Huawei, apple, Google or even oneplus phone has much better HDR processing than this
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There is no hdr in the world that can salvage that unless you do it manually or use an dslr and adjust the steps to larger steps.
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