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[Q] Is my Tilt 2 worth anything?

I got my Tilt 2 March of this year. While it's been fun, I notice less and less support for it everywhere. We've had some good times together, but it' can't be helped that it's time to switch over to an android phone. It's in really good condition and I was thinking about putting it on ebay. Can I charge at least $200 for this thing? I don't want to get a new phone until I can unload this one somehow. Yes it does seem like a waste, but it's rapidly becoming the phone not to have IMO. I've been rocking the Energy Rom since I've had it but the lack of apps and other goodies that the newer phones have are killing it right now. So that's why I think it's time for an upgrade.
This was my first smartphone. I upgraded from a motorola razor that I had for 3 years. I think that the next phone I get will be the last phone that I'll need. It just seems like the Tilt 2 didn't last as long as I thought it would.

how is the condition? if in mint condition 200 is easy on ebay

It's definitely mint. Never been dropped or anything like that. I'm just wondering if it'll be worth anything to the general public seeing as how there are bigger and better phones out there.

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It's definitely mint. Never been dropped or anything like that. I'm just wondering if it'll be worth anything to the general public seeing as how there are bigger and better phones out there.
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its easily possible if its in mint condition and comes with accessories and all

It's not worth anything. Send it to me for proper disposal.
Seriously, I've only had mine since June, but I love it. Not my first Smartphone as I replaced an LG Incite with it and have been using a WinMo PDA since 2003. I have yet to not find an app for the things I do with a phone and for just entertainment. Is it perfect? Of course not, but is any phone? I don't think so. I have friends with iPhones who marvel at some of the tings my Tilt 2 does and I have friends with Android phones who are jealous of some of the features their phones are missing. If it isn't doing what you need it to do, then by all mean upgrade, but ditching a prefectly good, working phone just because you think the grass is greener on the other side is foolish. You might get $200 on eBay (I paid $250 for mine in June and it was NIB), but with Verizon getting iPhones in Jan and Windows Phone 7 due in December you better hurry as prices will be falling real soon.

is this phone worth $200?

i bought one from ebay is it worth it?could i have gotten a better one?
condition is mint no scratches or anything

hey,
i bought the phone a few month ago for about $300...
and of course you could have gooten a better one...
But here's the BIG BUT:
-when you want to have a hardfware keyboard then theres only one other phone...the desire z (about $600)
-if you dont need the keyboard then u could get the HD2 if u want it to hgave windows mobile
-or you could get the desire wich in my eyes is a high end device without any limits for now...
--->but thats all a matter of what you want to spend for a new phone...
but i can only tell you that it is a great phone i use it every day and its just great to have the keyboard...
and for that price $200 you couldnt get a better phone then this one!
just flash a cusom rom and the phone is just awesome!
nick

Not a bad price; was it a 'bid' or 'buy it now' option?
I was lucky to snag one with a bunch of accessories (including 2 batteries, 3 cables, 2 AC chargers, a spare battery cover, extra stylises, & an Otterbox) in mint condition for about $150 shipped. It was a buy-it-now sale, so I assume that I got that deal because the seller really didn't know what it was worth. The seller was changing carriers and just wanted to get rid of the phone.
Since the phone has been discontinued and the new Windows 7 phones are out, the prices are coming down quickly. I'm not ready to jump into a W7 device, so I'm happy with my purchase.
Keep reading the forums and, if you're brave about customizing it, I'm sure you'll be happy with this device, too. Enjoy!
Debbie

the-nj said:
hey,
i bought the phone a few month ago for about $300...
and of course you could have gooten a better one...
But here's the BIG BUT:
-when you want to have a hardfware keyboard then theres only one other phone...the desire z (about $600)
-if you dont need the keyboard then u could get the HD2 if u want it to hgave windows mobile
-or you could get the desire wich in my eyes is a high end device without any limits for now...
--->but thats all a matter of what you want to spend for a new phone...
but i can only tell you that it is a great phone i use it every day and its just great to have the keyboard...
and for that price $200 you couldnt get a better phone then this one!
just flash a cusom rom and the phone is just awesome!
nick
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what phone could i have gotten for $200 better than this?i thought this was the max
DebbieNY13 said:
Not a bad price; was it a 'bid' or 'buy it now' option?
I was lucky to snag one with a bunch of accessories (including 2 batteries, 3 cables, 2 AC chargers, a spare battery cover, extra stylises, & an Otterbox) in mint condition for about $150 shipped. It was a buy-it-now sale, so I assume that I got that deal because the seller really didn't know what it was worth. The seller was changing carriers and just wanted to get rid of the phone.
Since the phone has been discontinued and the new Windows 7 phones are out, the prices are coming down quickly. I'm not ready to jump into a W7 device, so I'm happy with my purchase.
Keep reading the forums and, if you're brave about customizing it, I'm sure you'll be happy with this device, too. Enjoy!
Debbie
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it was at buy it now price
And thank you for replying

Well, after reading this thread, I decided to buy one off ebay too. Then to see how the xdandroid stuff is working...

bought my tp2 before they hit the U.S for $600,been pleased ever since.You got one for $200,you got lucky,great buy

Was it an unlocked device? It wasn't a BAD price, really but I don't know if I would consider it a great one either. The phone is a bit on the slow side these days, but not excessively so. They are still selling new Android phones with even slower CPUs. But it's no Snapdragon either. The hardware keyboard is nice. I thought about moving to a Focus with WP7 but I really don't like the soft keyboards and I am not impressed with the Quantum.
So, yeah, not a real helpful post, but the TP2 remains one of if not the overall best WM 6 device out there. AT&T is still selling it for $199 and you would be locked into a 2 year contract for it so if you got it for $199 I suppose you did okay. Especially if, as previously mentioned, you aren't adverse to a bit of out of warranty modding and custom ROMs.

Avatar28 said:
Was it an unlocked device? It wasn't a BAD price, really but I don't know if I would consider it a great one either. The phone is a bit on the slow side these days, but not excessively so. They are still selling new Android phones with even slower CPUs. But it's no Snapdragon either. The hardware keyboard is nice. I thought about moving to a Focus with WP7 but I really don't like the soft keyboards and I am not impressed with the Quantum.
So, yeah, not a real helpful post, but the TP2 remains one of if not the overall best WM 6 device out there. AT&T is still selling it for $199 and you would be locked into a 2 year contract for it so if you got it for $199 I suppose you did okay. Especially if, as previously mentioned, you aren't adverse to a bit of out of warranty modding and custom ROMs.
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it was unlocked

Is the Pixel 2 xl worth $900

Ok so most of us has had our pixels for a few weeks now, do you think it's worth $900. Honest answers please.....

Absolutely. It has everything I want in a phone and has the exact form factor I want it in(I hate edge display and am not a fan of bezel-less deisgns from day to day use). I'm getting a minimum of 3 years of OS updates, 3 years of monthly security updates, chat or phone call support, and unlimited full resolution photo uploads. It's going to take something really magical to come out for me to switch to another device. I thought the 6P would fit the bill for a long term device for me, but that S10 was a throttling POS. Thought the original Pixel would have been a long term phone, but I REALLY missed front facing stereo speakers. Any other phones out there will not be supported over 3 years and I refuse to get burned by a company that drops support on their products again. Is this device perfect out of the box.....no. Then again not one phone is. Most of the issues reported are not anything I notice in day to day use or I have remedied myself( for example using the original Pixel cable for Android Auto stopped the crashes). I love it.

The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.

Hardware worth the value? Absolutely not,
but Software worth the value, Yes as @AndrasLOHF said. I agree especially with front-facing speaker. Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, Unlimited photo storage etc. I have one so I can run stock latest android software this year, and the camera.

as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.

Absolutely for me especially with the trade in... which makes it a more reasonable price!
Like front ? ?, Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, and unlimited photo storage...

Yes, I think it is worth the asking price... For me it's the only natural progression from my 6P (personally, the best phone I've owned) which includes 3 years of updates /upgrades..

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as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now

Nope, but it's worth $575 which is what I'll cost me after getting $425 back from T-Mobile

phyl0x said:
as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason I went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now lol. Oh well I have both now I'm ?

Probably not worth $900. None of the phones out are. They all do what your last phone did. Every phone discounts soon after launch. The early adopters pay the high amounts. Samsung BOGO, or savings off the note 8 if you had a note 7. Essential discounted after release. Lg discounted after release. Pixel 2 $375 just to bring it Tmobile. Just wait a month once the phone you want comes out. Tough I know but some of the pixel 2 are already cheaper on swappa then the Google store.

Lucky for me I found a guy selling the pixel 2 xl on craigslist for $700 but I offered him $500 and he text me back a day later asking for $550 ?. Been loving it ever since, currently got my essential phone on eBay and it's up to $450 with a day to go.

Is it worth 900? Everything inside of me says NO however I bought the thing, I love it and I would buy it again if I broke or lost this phone. So I guess money speaks louder than words in this scenario. The software just blows everything else out of the water. Id love to have the Iphone Xs 4k @ 60fps, The LG V30's SD card slot, headphone jack and quad dac but I would still pick the pixel 2 XL over any of those due to the overall experience.

In Switzerland it's 1 109 Dollar, very expensive but i love it so far

luciusfox said:
The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.
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+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.

It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.

dinkoh said:
+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.
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I think that quality control problems are massively overblown.
Mine, for the record, is flawless. Have NOT done any exchange.
I think that there are two things that are contributing to people's perceptions being skewed on these (which isn't to say that there aren't a few that are genuinely defective).
1) It is a little bit weird when you suddenly find yourself looking through a circular polarization filter. It does cause a slight color shift at hard angles.. but that's the nature of having a circular polarization filter, which is a tradeoff for people who wear polarized glasses so that they can actually see it at all orientations. I suspect that people who do a few trade-ins eventually get used to the effect, which is why their final replacement is probably not as "bad" as the first one. I know that I've gotten so used to it now that I have to intentionally look for it now... oh yeah, that's what it does!
2) The application drawer has a very slight transparency to it. That means that you can see the image behind it very slightly -- and it looks like burn-in.
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BabelHuber said:
It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
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You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.

I picked up a Pixel 2 XL during Verizon's $300 off promotion. I also have a Note 8 to compare it to. I don't think any phone, especially the iPhone X, is worth $900-1000. A more reasonable amount would be $600-700 and payment plans play a big role in the upped prices this year. The OnePlus 5T at $300+ less than other flagships with similar specs, also makes you wonder. The Note 8 does feel more premium than the Pixel 2 XL, but the software experience on the Pixel 2 XL is the best I've ever seen.
A good indication of where thing are heading is that one can get a brand new LG G5 for $230, an S7 for $400, or an S8 for $575. Getting last year's models or waiting until a phone has been out 6 months is especially cost effective.

You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact..
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No.
I did not want a Samsung or LG anymore, I wanted something with good developer support.
So when I changed my contract I could get a new phone. Samsung and LG were out, OnePlus was not available at T-Mobile Germany. The Nokia 8 has a locked bootloader. So the choice was between the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL. The OnePlus 5T without contract was more expensive than the Pixels with contract.
So I shelled out €400, what else should I have done?
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.
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I hope so, so far I haven't managed to get Bluetooth audio playback working in my car.

It's worth the 765 I paid, plus the trade in for my P XL makes it a reasonable enough upgrade at 350.

Question in regards to which pixel to buy

Due to my situation over the past few years I've been using the Samsung Galaxy Active line, S7 active now actually. So that really put a damper on my rooting and rom flashing which I had been a big part of since the Samsung Galaxy S, Captivate on AT&T. Anyway I'm in a position to be be able to switch to a Pixel in a month or so but I don't know if I should go for the 3xl or save some money and get the 2xl, which seems like it's still quite a solid device. My most important concern is still having plenty of development for the xl2 after the 3 has been out for a while. I'd like wireless charging but not a deal breaker and since I think the camera on my S7 active is adequate I'm sure the camera upgrade between the 2xl and 3xl wouldn't be huge to me. I would greatly appreciate any opinions.
Thanks

If you are running out of money i recommend you pixel 2 xl though pixel 3 xl is worth it ... At any rate you wont regret it both.

Go for the 3 XL, they improved so many things.
Especially the display.
If you don't have a previous pixel device, get the 3XL

Thanks for the replies guys. I'll be financing the phone through Google so the extra 10 bucks a month or so isn't that big of a deal. But getting the cheaper phone would make it easier to upgrade sooner if I could pay it off earlier. I really just want a phone that has a lot of development that I don't have to pay for in full because I don't have that ability. The only thing that's a slight disappointment on both is the battery size. My S7 active has a 4000 mah battery and it's generations behind. I know processors have gotten more efficient and such but still my S7 active is years old and still has one of the largest batteries in any phone.

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Thanks for the replies guys. I'll be financing the phone through Google so the extra 10 bucks a month or so isn't that big of a deal. But getting the cheaper phone would make it easier to upgrade sooner if I could pay it off earlier. I really just want a phone that has a lot of development that I don't have to pay for in full because I don't have that ability. The only thing that's a slight disappointment on both is the battery size. My S7 active has a 4000 mah battery and it's generations behind. I know processors have gotten more efficient and such but still my S7 active is years old and still has one of the largest batteries in any phone.
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You should buy a one plus 6t if you care about development.

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You should buy a one plus 6t if you care about development.
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Yeah, not really an option as my current situation makes where I would need to finance the phone, like through Google. I don't think that is an option with OnePlus. Would like to be wrong though.

I'm very happy with the 2XL, which will get much of the good stuff from the 3 over the coming weeks. If you can get it for a really good saving over the 3, that's the way to go. The 3 is an incremental upgrade.

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I'm very happy with the 2XL, which will get much of the good stuff from the 3 over the coming weeks. If you can get it for a really good saving over the 3, that's the way to go. The 3 is an incremental upgrade.
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Ill agree with this. I just bought a 2XL second hand and absolutely love the device! If you are financing it though and can afford it, may as well get the 3XL.

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Ill agree with this. I just bought a 2XL second hand and absolutely love the device! If you are financing it though and can afford it, may as well get the 3XL.
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That's kind of what I'm thinking. It's about $9 more a month to get the 3XL instead of the 2XL. I wish I could go compare the 2 phones side by side though. Every VZW store I've went to in my general area hasn't gotten their display Pixel 3s yet. They have to the phone to sell but none on display.
Thanks for all the replies guys.

Make sure you get the Google edition and NOT the verizon one if you want to get back to ROMing and Rooting. You cannot do these things if you get the vzw one, even if you get it from google.

Question P6P or wait for P7P?

Currently there is a promo that gets me $800 trade value on my S21 Ultra even with cracked screen. Question is, do I wait and let trade value drop for P7P to possibly release this year or make the jump? I'm tired of the Samsung bloat on Android but I keep reading mixed reviews on the P6P.
Any advice would help.

it is only 7 months away. Just wait it out.

There's always another generation coming. The P6P is great, you won't regret it! But you might regret using a cracked phone for another 7 months and losing out on that credit!

Your phone will be worth a heck of a lot less in seven months. If you haven't already, I would see how much you could sell the phone on Swappa for. That's what I did with my wife's and my Note 10+ 512 GB models. Yes, older phone than yours but it was worth much more selling than trading - it just depends. But $800 does sound good to me for yours. I'll never go Samsung again for phones unless they change drastically. Wonderful hardware but terrible software.
We've hardly had any issues at all with our Factory Unlocked Pixel 6 Pro 512 GB models. No fingerprint, signal, or Wi-Fi issues, and it's now been just around four months or a little longer since we got ours.
Good luck, whatever you decide.

I love my Pixel 6 Pro and have had no problems with it. That being said, I expect there will be some lessons learned with the Tensor chip, modem, etc., that I feel the Pixel 7 "should" (hopefully) incorporate those learned lessons and be a really great phone. I would wait, but that's just my personal opinion.

Wait for the 8

I've never had any issues with my pro and I absolutely love this phone. I came from a OnePlus 6T, and before that Nexus 6 (yes I held onto that sucker for that long)
I'd say weigh your options but $800 for a phone with a cracked screen, seems like a no brained if it were me.

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Currently there is a promo that gets me $800 trade value on my S21 Ultra even with cracked screen. Question is, do I wait and let trade value drop for P7P to possibly release this year or make the jump? I'm tired of the Samsung bloat on Android but I keep reading mixed reviews on the P6P.
Any advice would help.
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If it were me, I'd get the max trade in for the damaged device before it drops (could drop substantially in 7 months), get the P6P now, enjoy it until the 7 comes out, sell the P6P outright or on swappa, enjoy life

nottoosmart said:
Currently there is a promo that gets me $800 trade value on my S21 Ultra even with cracked screen. Question is, do I wait and let trade value drop for P7P to possibly release this year or make the jump? I'm tired of the Samsung bloat on Android but I keep reading mixed reviews on the P6P.
Any advice would help.
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Where is that promo?

bobby janow said:
Where is that promo?
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Found it with a Google search.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Found it with a Google search.
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That's why I couldn't find it. I only look for unlockable bootloader phones.
just kidding naturally but looking at the promo it's kind of deceiving. You either need to upgrade your plan, add a new line and go on the installment plan. So after 2 years it's not such a great deal.

nottoosmart said:
Currently there is a promo that gets me $800 trade value on my S21 Ultra even with cracked screen. Question is, do I wait and let trade value drop for P7P to possibly release this year or make the jump? I'm tired of the Samsung bloat on Android but I keep reading mixed reviews on the P6P.
Any advice would help.
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All bloat you can handle in 10 min with ADB...samsung One UI is atm the best skin out there, they actualy beat google in their own game. Nice lock/good lock got 1000 custom things to do, better than ''naked google''

I'd say do it. Sold my s21 Ultra for 500. Battery life was horrible and Samsung UI isn't the greatest. It's preference though. If you get 800 for a phone with a cracked screen,that's a no brainer.

Makonator said:
All bloat you can handle in 10 min with ADB...samsung One UI is atm the best skin out there, they actualy beat google in their own game. Nice lock/good lock got 1000 custom things to do, better than ''naked google''
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As a Samsung fanboy for many years., I'd say that their one ui is filled with unnecessary crap. They take their sweet time to release new updates. It'd be great if you could install aosp on their devices though.