Now that you have had the V30, what improvements would you want LG to make for the V40?
Mine are as follows....
- 8mp front facing camera with bigger pixels and/or better aperture
- Stereo speakers
- Charge at least a tiny bit faster.
- LED notification light
- Metal back like V20 (doesn't have to be removable)
- 6GB of RAM
Then of course whatever the most recent SOC is at the time of release, but that's a given. If LG keeps the same form factor, keeps all other features, then adds those I listed above, I believe it'd be the perfect phone! What do you want improved?
Also hopefully with some software updates its possible LG could improve the front camera and charging speed of the V30 in the meantime!
I sign for all the above (except metal back, I don't care about it), plus:
- Power button at the right side of the phone (sometimes it's annoying to pick up the device just to power it off (double tap is a solution, but not as convenient)) OR fingerprint sensor under the bottom part of the screen
- As an alternative to LED notification light I would be happy with the built-in Always On Screen feature with custom icons ("NoLED" app like feature)
- And the most important one - leave all current features, design and behavior AS IS!
The very straight forward handful, at least for me, are:
Better OLED panel (larger and higher quality)
Double the RAM (because the V30 should have had 6GB)
Dual-SIM US model with band 71
Stock Android (LG's skin sucks)
Unlockable bootloader with all fastboot and ADB commands intact on all models.
I think your list would be similar to my own.
1) Stereo speakers
2) 6GB RAM
3) Better front facing camera
Only thing is that I'm sure with stereo speakers, the device will be heavier and may have larger bezel. It would be a possible trade off but man I love how light and how little bezel there is.
Edit: 4) The ability to root it! LOL
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Stereo speakers will mean bigger bezels and possibly something else disappearing. (Battery, headphone jack, something else) And let's face it, phone speakers never actually sound good. Ever.
Better selfie camera would also mean bigger top bezel. Increasing the megapixel count by 3 megapixels is nothing. 99% of people can't tell the difference in standard viewing. You have to quadruple the number of megepixels before most people can actually tell the difference. That would mean a 20mp camera and not 8. Of course, then you run into the problem of squeezing 20mp onto a tiny sensor and all of the headaches that come with that. (Noise, sooo much noise) Or, your other option is to use a bigger sensor with bigger pixels which means a bigger bezel. All around it's a lose lose situation.
A lot of changes I see being asked for in order to make them worthwhile changes would lead to drastic design differences.
I'm actually pretty happy with the V30 as it is. I would maybe like to see the wide angle camera get just a tad better with AF but that's about it.
Release date? Does that count as an improvement? ??
Better camera, front facing speakers. They could literally leave editing else the same and I'd be happy.
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- Stereo speakers
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are mostly useless , but make bezels larger, make phone heavier, bulkier, more prone to speaker failure, damage. With having Bluetooth earphones usage of stereo speakers tends to zero
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- Charge at least a tiny bit faster.
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Who deprives you from charging V30 faster with proper QuickCharge 3.0 charger? Buy one and get charging at QC 3.0 speeds. LG never puts QC 3.0 charger into boxes, only QC 2.0 capable ones. Even with G5, V20 and G6 they've put QC 2.0 adapters, same as goes with V30
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- LED notification light
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Useless when having Bluetooth speakers and AoD. Waste of bezels, space and BOM (bill of materials)
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- Metal back like V20 (doesn't have to be removable)
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Then altogether forget of so much useful Qi Charging AND waterproof. For you can't glue metal to metal frame
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What do you want improved?
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V30 is perfect mostly already as is, BUT with small but very BIG exception, it lacks EAS sched governor which makes it WAY more slower than even Huawei competitive offers, not to mention Pixels and onepluses. LG lacks very huge times in storage speed benchmarks due to garbage kernel and storage drivers code. lack of proper governor added to poor storage code leads to very lags, stutters, jittering and hickups turning users towards Pixel 2 XL or even Mate 10/Note 8
And also camera needs to be updated and updated heavily. It's software processing, as well as ****ty OIS and HDR performance makes V30 not even suitable for who it directed at: for vlogers/pornhub/xhamster submitters and etc. LG must somehow license HDR+ algorithm from Google, or better yet start to put newest Sony IMX400 modules into V40 and make use of it's internal memory to implement sort of own HDR Plus analogue and vastly improve EIS Steady Shot 2.0 for as of now OIS+EIS performance is garbage and purely pathetic. I was looking into updating V20 to V30 but as of now it's pointless at all with all those shortcomings and hidden issues, mostly with OS
1. Get rid of selfie cam. (Narcissistic and a security vulnerability.)
2. Metal housing. (Glass is for wireless charging, which is slow.)
3. Huge battery.
4. Plain Android without skin, bloat, or unnecessary bells and whistles. A version that enables users to do their own security patching without the mfg and carriers imposing months and years of delays. (Oreo?)
5. A hi-fi DAC that just works, with all apps, without all the unnecessary crap like auto adjustment of gain based on detected load impedance, user-selectable filters, etc. , and without the apps limited to the LG audio and a couple other audio apps.
6. A display free of burn-in.
7. And of course, IP68 or better, SD or next gen user expandable memory, unlocked bootloader and root, carrier unlocked, and how about more attention to eliminating defects (faults, "bugs" by whatever name).
Why can't they make improvements on the LG G7? Why do you have to wait for LG V40?
The V30 is really just a better LG G6. LG should stop taking the view that the "G" models need to be inferior to the "V" models. They could do like Samsung and push out TWO top tier flagships per year, like the Galaxy S/S+ and Note series. Samsung doesn't cripple the S series to "save" it for the "Note" series. They put the everything into the Galaxy S and then try to make Note even better. The only reason the Note has 6GB RAM and the Galaxy S8/S8+ doesn't is because early 2017 6GB RAM was not yet the norm. By late 2017, it is. There's where LG messed up. The LG V30 should have 6GB RAM.
For the LG G6, LG had the STUPID regionalize specs scheme and you couldn't buy an LG G6 with ALL the specs. Asian countries had more storage and DAC, but U.S. had Qi wireless charging. Then the LG G6+ (released in July! still with Snapdragon 821!) even had regionalized specs (Europe version still didn't have Qi wireless), and none of the LG G6+ could be bootloader unlocked.
But, yeah, I agree.
Stereo speakers would be nice.
Maybe a little bigger battery.
At least 6GB RAM
Better selfie camera just to shut people up. I'm tired of hearing about it.
For those suggesting full metal back that's ridiculous. Can't have full metal back because I will not buy a phone without Qi wireless charging. Every since I had the 2013 LG Nexus 5 it's on my "must have" list and I'm not giving it up now.
Headphone jack on the bottom so its more usable
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Why can't they make improvements on the LG G7? Why do you have to wait for LG V40?
The V30 is really just a better LG G6. LG should stop taking the view that the "G" models need to be inferior to the "V" models. They could do like Samsung and push out TWO top tier flagships per year, like the Galaxy S/S+ and Note series. Samsung doesn't cripple the S series to "save" it for the "Note" series
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Yeah? Really? Where's second x2 zoom camera in S8? In s8 Plus? Where's Spen and all that accompanying soft in S8? Where 6Gig memory in S8? 6Gig were norm for 2016 xiaomis and oneplus , for 2017 8Gig is already a norma but even Note 8 still stripped of extra 2Gig.
And LG is already doing like Samsung, G6 is like S8 when V30 is like Note 8. V30 in NOT a G6 Plus like every one pretend it to be
The Samsung S series is inferior to Note series and always had been. How would LG market V series if G would have had all same specs but in lesser size? It's only Google's and Apple way to sell pixel with pixel XL and iPhone with iPhone Plus. LG can't afford it
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Yeah? Really? Where's second x2 zoom camera in S8? In s8 Plus? Where's Spen and all that accompanying soft in S8? Where 6Gig memory in S8? 6Gig were norm for 2016 xiaomis and oneplus , for 2017 8Gig is already a norma but even Note 8 still stripped of extra 2Gig.
And LG is already doing like Samsung, G6 is like S8 when V30 is like Note 8. V30 in NOT a G6 Plus like every one pretend it to be
The Samsung S series is inferior to Note series and always had been. How would LG market V series if G would have had all same specs but in lesser size? It's only Google's and Apple way to sell pixel with pixel XL and iPhone with iPhone Plus. LG can't afford it
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Your questions are answered in my post. Read it again. I even specifically mentioned the RAM. Reading comprehension.
Just because some minor players put in more RAM to make a splash, that's not the mainstream norm. And you know it. Just like 21MP selfie cameras are not the norm, but at least one company is doing it.
Sony puts 4K displays on their phones, is still NOT the norm.
You only quoted the part you read, is that it?
My post stands and fully answers everything you mentioned, either specifically or implied.
LG already did silly things in the past like putting 2Gb of memory first, before Samsung. How did it help it? They people then still found ****loads of issues and wrote lists and lists and lists of "What LG should do in it's next smartphone to at least catch Samsung"
Look, LG smartphones is already better than competitors. No point in that "Oh, if it would have +2Gb more I'd have bought it". Nope, you wouldn't buy because if it had +2Gb more you would find next wish like "Oh, I wish lg put telephoto camera like every other vendor uses and strip that silly useless wide angle one" and so on and on yadda-yadda
Wish list from most to least:
Strong desire
1) Faster camera - focus is too slow in dimmer light and I keep missing shots of my dog that were very easy to capture with my S7 edge. Maybe 1.4um instead of 1.0um so there's more light for easier focusing.
2) An easy way to launch camera when the screen is on. Double tapping the volume down button is great when the screen is off but I'd like an easier way to start the camera when I'm using the phone. Maybe a dedicated camera/shutter button to replace the power button.
3) Better speaker - The one on the V30 is just too tinny. I usually listen to music in the shower but after being used to the S7 edge speaker, which does decent lows and provides a fuller sound, this one just sounds like racket. (Not dual speakers though because I prefer smaller bezels - I find no instance where listening to phone speakers trumps using earphones)
Nice to have
4) Better front facing camera - I don't take many selfies but there is a clear difference between the quality of other selfie cams vs. the one on the V30. For most intents and purposes, the 5mp one does OK, but if I'm taking a group selfie, I'd prefer the image to be higher quality than just a solo selfie.
5) Gesture controls on the fingerprint reader - to pull down the notification bar or scroll through websites.
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Who deprives you from charging V30 faster with proper QuickCharge 3.0 charger? Buy one and get charging at QC 3.0 speeds. LG never puts QC 3.0 charger into boxes, only QC 2.0 capable ones. Even with G5, V20 and G6 they've put QC 2.0 adapters, same as goes with V30
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Stock charger with the V20 is QC3, so says the inline meter i have. V20's charger is QC3 , chances are good so is the V30
I saw no difference in charging speeds between stock and a ravpower charger.
What did speed up charge rates was using a thicker cable. I used the charging cable from the G4as the V20 also has USB 2 and stuck a micro usb to usb c adapter on it and saw the meter touch 15W. With the stock flat cable it wouldn't cross 14W
They should adopt features that have been done with other phones.
Gestures:
I like the OP5T gestures - both while screen is off, and on the fp reader.
Battery:
For roughly the same physical size - they could fit in a larger battery like 4000 mah.
If Huawei can do it, then so can everyone else.
Display:
Fix whatever the issues are regarding screen uniformity, blue tint, etc, etc, etc.
Camera:
I am not sure what the deal is with recent cameras from all the manufacturers - preferring noise reduction over DETAIL, but please go back to the basics on this.
Do whatever you need to do, to produce photos like Google's camera.
OR, if you are going to overhaul the camera app - at least give the user the option to select AUTO modes that allow for the capturing of more Detail.
Headphone Jack
I, too, would prefer the jack to be on the BOTTOM of the phone.
FP Reader
Much like the OP5T, make it out of CERAMIC - so that it won't be scratched/damaged easily
Versions
I agree that they have to STOP with all the flavors, and just make the BEST phone with ALL the features they can possibly cram in to their phones.
No more regional versions, no more G series is inferior to V series - just give us the best - don't hold back.
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For the LG G6, LG had the STUPID regionalize specs scheme and you couldn't buy an LG G6 with ALL the specs. Asian countries had more storage and DAC, but U.S. had Qi wireless charging. Then the LG G6+ (released in July! still with Snapdragon 821!) even had regionalized specs (Europe version still didn't have Qi wireless), and none of the LG G6+ could be bootloader unlocked.
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This was a carrier thing. Carriers aren't that prevalent in Asia and guess what no screwing around with specs
G4, G5 were the same for everyone (the brazilians and russians got a lower spec'd G5 but otherwise it was the same)
The circus began with the G6
See the V30, pretty much the same for everyone
Why the V30+, more competitive in some markets. I don't get a V30 only v30+ in mine
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Adding OIS would be good
But I have this feeling that LG will try to fit a third camera in there, maybe a 2x. They will be vertical set instead of the present horizontal.
This means smaller sensors all around :/
Or they could try to just improve what's already there
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This was a carrier thing. Carriers aren't that prevalent in Asia and guess what no screwing around with specs
G4, G5 were the same for everyone (the brazilians and russians got a lower spec'd G5 but otherwise it was the same)
The circus began with the G6
See the V30, pretty much the same for everyone
Why the V30+, more competitive in some markets. I don't get a V30 only v30+ in mine
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Adding OIS would be good
But I have this feeling that LG will try to fit a third camera in there, maybe a 2x. They will be vertical set instead of the present horizontal.
This means smaller sensors all around :/
Or they could try to just improve what's already there
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No, it was an LG thing. They said they did it on purpose - only giving certain specs to various parts of the world, to ostensibly keep costs down and give the "popular" options for each region.
But it was an idiotic idea. Like the U.S. buyers want Qi wireless charging, but not more storage?
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No, it was an LG thing. They said they did it on purpose - only giving certain specs to various parts of the world, to ostensibly keep costs down and give the "popular" options for each region.
But it was an idiotic idea. Like the U.S. buyers want Qi wireless charging, but not more storage?
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I don't believe it was an LG thing. i think the carriers twisted their arm over it to keep costs down and make LG competitive.
Who are the biggest customers of phones ? operators
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I admit that initially I was expecting the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge to be the best phone out there. However when we ran into the bootloader issue and more news about the LG G5 came out I was definitely attracted to the possibility of having the LG G5 and a better product possibly than made by Samsung. The rumors and upcoming details about the HTC 10 phone were also in the back of my mind. However after reading the below article I think that we have all made a very wise decision.
http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-10-review/
Going to end up like M9
They just can't get over the hurdle
I'd take the 10 over the G5 any day, but to each his own.
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I'd take the 10 over the G5 any day, but to each his own.
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What issues are you having with your G5?
After reading the review I am glad I bought the G5 as there is really very little difference between the phones in the review. I have had HTC in the past as well as Motorola and will buy neither again. My last 4 phones have been LG and I loved them all.
have to say, having both the S7 Edge (exynos) and the LG G5, i actually prefer the LG. It's just as fast and the headphone quality much better.
Other than the fact that I love a Super AMOLED screen such as on the S7 Edge I will have to say that between the three top phones out today the G5 to me is the best. However I must admit that the LCD screen on the G5 is quite excellent for what it represents in LCD technology. It's definitely the best LCD screen on a phone that I've seen. However like I said before tell me the perfect G5 would have been if it came with a Super AMOLED screen.
IMHO, most of it's subjective..
Especially sicne G5 still has no root, and the 10 looks like it will almost out of the starting gate. For me, root's more important than friggin' benchmarks, or camera quality, etc.
Removable battery, on screen buttons, solid camera (as good as or better than my s6e), and the potential for AOSP ROMs: I'm happy with my choice. Looking forward to the 360 cam and my extra battery and charging cradle!
I am not at all excited for the HTC 10 or any other HTC product for that matter. To me they are very close to being irrelevant at all.
Right now I dont anticipate finding anything to replace my G5 until maybe the Fall LG release (whatever comes after the LG V10). The phone has its flaws in the build quality, but there is nothing horrible & the phone has a ton going for it. Overall I am happy with it, much more so then I was with my S7 (though the s7 form factor was better in my opinion).
HTC will always have a place in my heart and I hope they do well with the 10, for the markets sake. However, the lg g5, in my opinion is excellent. The quality of the screen, build(I don't have any problems that others might have) the ability to easily replace a battery, the modular design with actual modular items that are functional, and the camera(as a parent fast reliable cameras are a must) and lastly, lg sticking with a micro sd to go along with the great camera. The HTC 10 will have superior sound production and might have better antennas which the HTC m9 gave me the best reception of any phone I've ever owned. The lg g5 has faired excellent in that department. Unfortunately for htc, I will be sticking with the lg g5(for now)?
Not impressed with the G5
I am definitely not impressed with the G5 and if the HTC 10 was out a bit earlier I would have gotten it over the G5. I have light bleed along the bottom of my screen over to the bottom right, poor audio quality (since I won't be getting the DAC since I live in the states), the battery dies quickly, I can look right through the gap between the module and the phone, and the bump for the camera is also hideous. With all that being said it was definitely a better buy over the Galaxy S7. The S7 sounds worse through headphones according to some(I can't believe that's actually possible), No removable battery, and a crappy loud speaker. If only the V10 had shipped with the 810...
My G5 is flawless. Sound is great. Display is great. Perfect construction.
Other people have different opinions it would seem:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-10-vs-LG-G5_id4194
I'm still more than happy with my G5. Feels light years better than my s6e.
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I'm still more than happy with my G5. Feels light years better than my s6e.
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Glad to hear it. I just ordered one and currently have an S6 I'll be trading in coming from ATT.
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The on screen buttons HTC has adopted is a deal breaker for me. Also, I'm a huge fan of the camera features on the G5 along with the added super wide lens, and the ir blaster, the list goes on.. It's more of the full package for me.. Can you tell I love this phone
A good read for those all in with the G5.
http://m.androidcentral.com/love-letter-lg-g5s-wide-angle-camera
I had issues with my first G5, when I put in an SD card, it wouldn't recognize the SIM card OR the SD card, when I got my second one it had a small burn in with the bottom right corner in the LCD, so on the third one I like it, I've got my spare battery and charger on the way and so far... so good. I got it for the modularity as I'm a HUGE fan of Project Ara and Puzzlephone and if a manufacturer is going to support modularity (even in a micro fashion) I want to support them. Plus since the LG Thrill (Last LG phone I've had), they've come SO far with their software... it's not even funny there.
So far with the 10d update all is perfect on my 2 G5s. Very happy with them.
I have used a G5 for the most part of this year. Then I upgraded to V20 for a brief period (mostly for the free projector and T-mobile promotion ). V20 was a great device, but was too big for me. Then I upgraded to G6. While it was a nice phone for average consumers, I felt like I have downgraded compared to G5 in many aspects. So, after using it for a month I am back to my good old G5! I am just gonna list my reasons below.
1. Camera: No real improvement in camera performance. Just some more megapixels in the wide angle one. I use the wide angle camera a lot, so it was a good thing, but not that important. G6 is using phase detection autofocus, compared to the laser in G5. While this is good in some situation, G5 takes much better macro-mode pictures due to laser focus.
2. Infra-red: Gone. How come they decided to remove a feature, rather than upgrading?
3. Display: G6 got a nice display, but this 2:1 aspect ratio is simply wasted real estate on top and bottom. At least on V20 the extra space was used for something useful (the second display)
4. Notification LED: A big minus. Always-on-display is good, but a LED is a lot more functional and visible. The AOD also takes a toll on the battery. Despite larger battery in G6, on my usage level the battery performance was no better than G5.
5. Removable battery: I was a big fan of the samsung note series until they ditched the removable battery in note5. Since then I used all the LG flagships, because they kept the battery removable. I hope they keep the removable battery in V30.
6. Root-ability: As of now, G6 is not rootable, and I believe there is a good chance that it will never get root. Performance improvement in SD821 is unnoticeable compared to SD820, specially when I can use a custom kernel in G5 to suit my preference.
With G6, LG basically made an eye-candy targeting a consumer base who buys Samsung and apple for the flashy looking phones. For me a phone is about functionality, not a fashion statement. While the glossy look of G6 is aesthetically pleasing, the trade-off in functionality was simply not for me. I really do hope that LG doesn't target the same market for V30. In that case G5 might as well be my last LG phone. But my G5 is going strong with zero issues, and I believe it will serve a good long time.
Agree with you on most counts. I've had every LG "G" phone since G2 and like you, V20 due to the good promotion on price and minibeam projector. V20 I too found was too big, though that quad-DAC really does make a difference. Audio is superb on it. Just got G6 and on my first week of usage. I like it so far and in hand, it feels great, as it feels like a "candybar" again, not the overly wide feeling where your hands feel stretched with G3, G4, and V20. G5 was a nice sized phone with tons of features and a seriously underrated phone. I will say this, performance on G5 and V20 was topnotch at the beginning but they too underwent the typical Android slowdown after a few weeks of use. I'm talking programs that crawl, camera super slow to open, general navigation slow, and twitchy, stuttery browsing... none of which is really apparent on an iPhone... unfortunately, Android still can't seem to figure out the buttery smooth part (maybe Pixel?). The battery life on G5 did really stink though and there's no way I could go an entire day without changing out the battery, which becomes a ritual and it's not like it's hard, but it is annoying (I had 3 batteries). My G5 wasn't without problems though - it has that notorious GPS issue... GPS signal is absolute garbage (there's an in-depth XDA thread on it) and even after sending back the G5 to LG for repairs, it developed the problem over time... so GPS is really crippled on this phone (for me and many other unlucky ones) and as most can agree GPS is one of those crucial features, I can't go back to my own copy of G5.... maybe I can pick up another used one for a good price with a good GPS unit... but that's too much trouble. I like G5 but I don't love it THAT much to go through all that trouble... if I am honest, V20 really has got it all... except the size part. V20's wide angle camera is I think slightly less wide than G5's. I like G5's wideness better.
G6 - just beautiful... but you're right. No more replaceable batteries... and LG gave the US people a normal (stinky) DAC, not like the one in V20... oh boy, you can literally hear the difference. But I also noticed LG's own music app stinks - install a 3rd party - I installed Pi Music Player and the audio quality is noticeably better than the stock music player, despite the stinker of a DAC. LG says the US customers wanted wireless charging over DAC... c'mon seriously? With USB-C, charging is so easy... I'd rather have a better DAC. And removal of IR really hurts. Maybe most didn't use it but I travel a lot for work and stay at hotels... I find myself using IR quite often to change the input source of the TV (for plugging my laptop via HDMI, using Chromecast, etc).
LG... please don't go along with the "norm"... You will not win and you will no longer have any key differentiating feature.
I have to agree, I've had my G6 about a month now and I'm not that impressed. I've had several random reboots, and the screen freezes. If we had root, I could work with it but since we don't, I tend to use my G5 more and more..
Which rom do you use on LG G5?
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Which rom do you use on LG G5?
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Stock rooted with Asgard kernel.
If you don't need WiFi calling or VOLTE, Fulmics rom is a good option.
H830 and H850 are the only variants that can be rooted right? Does the 830 have all the bands necessary for ATT LTE? Or do you have to go with the 850?
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In that case G5 might as well be my last LG phone. But my G5 is going strong with zero issues, and I believe it will serve a good long time.
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well you lucky
mine main camera died after 2 months
i installed another main camera module and didnt work
so i have a G5 with non working main camera and the wide angle is not good for everyday pics
i like the G5 so much but that ripped my heart appart
So, after using this V30+ a while, I have a few thoughts on using it verses the S8+.
Storage - V30+ (128gb vs 64gb)
Screen - V30+ (better form factor. The S8+ is too tall.)
Fingerprint - V30+ (better location. More comfortable to use/natural.)
Headphone jack V30+ (I actually like it on the top. It's out of the way when I hold the phone. And when in my pocket, it's faced down and doesn't get in the way when I grab my phone. I carry my phone upside down. I also use earbuds with a longer cable than normal, so it had enough to justify the extra length.)
Sound - V30+ (quad DAC. The bottom firing speakers are pretty much even on both phones.)
Screen - undecided (I've had issues with previous S8+'s and think both have issues.)
Camera - undecided (S8+ has a really good auto camera and I use that most. But the V30+ has wide view. S8+ had a better selfie camera, but I don't take selfies.)
OS V30+ (I like multiple do not disturb options. More options for navigation buttons. It integrates better with Google backups on certain things like quick memo. I like simple things like how the notification icons are located correctly - when using a VPN, it puts the icon on the right with the rest that sit there constantly. I like that I don't have to confirm the volume adjust after the first initial time. 3rd party music apps sync info on LG as Samsung would only sync Google play music and Samsung music. Auto rotate works instantly with LG as opposed too Samsung. I also like knock code and double tap to wake. Brightness slider - while you can drag the one on the S8+ on auto, you can just tap the icon next to the slider on the V30+ and it jumps from "0" to 50 to 90. Mostly what I use.)
Security - S8+ (I miss the app lock mostly, as I could lock apps and they wouldn't show on the launcher or as being installed. Fingerprint is the same on both and I couldn't care less about Knox. But Samsung still wins imo because app lock.)
Gaming V30+ (the phone barely gets warm. The S8+ use to get pretty warm. The blacks on this look better during gaming to me. It may just be me, but it does. The V30+ has more memory for storing more games, so that's a plus. The headphone jack plays a role here too. It's on the top left in landscape mode - it's out of the way when I grip the phone.)
Buttons - V30+ (Bixby..... Nuff said.)
Battery - V30+ (hands down. I had 7+hrs sot yesterday alone. I'm at 4.5hrs right now with 45% battery left. S8+ I got 4-5 depending on the day.) I mainly use Bluetooth streaming, headphones, web browsing, XDA, Reddit, news apps, YouTube and some gaming.)
Notifications - S8+ (led notification light and the camera flash only flashes briefly. The V30+ flashes too long on the camera flash with the setting turned on.)
Usability - V30+ (it's not as tall, therefore it's easier to use/hold imo. No Bixby button so I don't hit that on this phone and throw off my intended task. The location of the power button - I use to hit that when adjusting the volume on the S8+ with one hand. The weight is better on the V30+. It's not top heavy. I couldn't care less about having a heavy phone to make it "feel more premium". I'd rather have a lighter phone as I hold it and don't need that awkward top heavy form factor for it to "feel premium".)
Looks V30+ (come on now. Look at it - LOOK AT IT!. Seriously. The black back has a pattern to it and that looks cool to me. Even if it's covered by a case. At the end of the day, LG put more thought in the final design appearance than Samsung. And that speaks for itself. The fingerprint button also seems like it'll take less scratches over time as it's matte and not shiny. Again - Bixby. No edged screen - I dealt with it on the S8+, but I never liked it.)
And that's what I've come up with on my opinion on the V30+ vs the S8+. If my opinion seems fanboy based, trust me, it's not. I own a lot of phones and favor none because of who makes them. I judge a phone on how it performs for my daily needs. I may point out flaws with phones, but if people don't, the manufactures will never take notice and fix those flaws with future releases.
Thanks for reading. Remember, at the end of the day, these are just objects and mean nothing in the end. ?
TLDR; to bad, read it anyways.
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Memory - V30+ (128gb vs 64gb)
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No phone has 128gb or 64gb of, "MEMORY."
Storage, yes. Memory, no.
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No phone has 128gb or 64gb of, "MEMORY."
Storage, yes. Memory, no.
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My fault, you know what I meant.
20degrees said:
And that's what I've come up with on my opinion on the V30+ vs the S8+. If my opinion seems fanboy based, trust me, it's not. I own a lot of phones and favor none because of who makes them. I judge a phone on how it performs for my daily needs. I may point out flaws with phones, but if people don't, the manufactures will never take notice and fix those flaws with future releases.
Thanks for reading. Remember, at the end of the day, these are just objects and mean nothing in the end.
TLDR; to bad, read it anyways.
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Oh, it's you, lg's hater. now you know that V30 in almost in every real life aspect not worse or even better than S8.
How's screen unevenness? How's black crush? What about real PWM in V30?
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My fault, you know what I meant.
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LOL.
Trolllolololololol.
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surprised to see this post from you, with how much you complained about the brightness issues. Glad you're happy with it. I'm guessing you got a good display that doesn't exhibit banding.
S8+ beats lgv30 and 30+ hands down
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Oh, it's you, lg's hater. now you know that V30 in almost in every real life aspect not worse or even better than S8.
How's screen unevenness? How's black crush? What about real PWM in V30?
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There's backing issues. I'm on number 6. ?
I'm not an "LG hater". I'm just straight up with things and refuse to let any companies flaws slip under the cracks. PWM?
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surprised to see this post from you, with how much you complained about the brightness issues. Glad you're happy with it. I'm guessing you got a good display that doesn't exhibit banding.
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It has banding. I posted in the screen thread. I'm started to think though, that this is more of a software issue rather than a screen issue. The banding had a lot to do with the screen settings. I can get the banding to disappear at times by adjusting the resolution, blue light filter and auto brightness. It's very odd. Last night I had auto brightness on and the screen would flash from dark black to red just sitting there with the screen on and no change in ambient light. ?
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S8+ beats lgv30 and 30+ hands down
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I can understand your opinion. ?
But i like the v30
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PWM?
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It's about those annoying flickering
Thanks.
Very interested in the design aspect of it... It looks so bland in the reviews but everyone, EVERYONE, says it actually is a pretty device.
For me that makes a difference.
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Thanks.
Very interested in the design aspect of it... It looks so bland in the reviews but everyone, EVERYONE, says it actually is a pretty device.
For me that makes a difference.
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Oh, it looks way better to me than the s8+.
I used V10 for 9 months, and then S8+ Exynos for 5 months. I just got V30+ for 2 days. And my experience is same with you. V30+ is pretty good. Missed the led notification light, the "heavy" (V30+ is too light, IMO) & Samsung Services (Galaxy Elite, Galaxy Gift, Samsung Pay,...)
Ive got s8+ now and my experience:
V30:
+ Lighter
+ I like the flat screen more because less reflections
+ I feel that LG skin is less bloat then Samsung
+ Vibrator - feels more like apple haptic device on newer iPhones
+/- Quad DAC i dont use high impedance headphones only in ear so dont need that much power. Apart from that SQ is good on both
- Screen white balance is just bad and yes i tried playing with settings
- General screen issues that people where having poor QA from LG
- Camera especially the front one
S8+:
+ Dual Sim
+ I was able to get it for £550 new sealed and yes i know you can get V30+ Dual Sim cheap but bootloader is locked
+ More Imersive screen
+ Better calibrated screen and mode vivid colours in Adaptive mode
- There is slight more banding on gradient in Adaptive mode but when its RGB its way more
- Finger reader bad position
I've proudly been the owner of an H932 V30 (T-MOBILE) since launch. I've had a blast with this device. I'm also a proud owner of an H872 G6 (T-MOBILE).
Well. I moved to these phones after my H811 G4 (T-MOBILE) became too outdated for my needs.
The G4 has TWRP and root and ROMs as every TMO branded device I've ever had also did.
Well, LG took that away from us by stripping fastboot commands from their devices now. This is sad. But carrier unlocked models can be bought outright for upwards of $600-700 and LG will give you binary file to unlock the bootloader and void your warranty.
No matter, these phones are fairly premium devices and serve their purpose even without Root or ROMs.
The V30 is a multimedia powerhouse, great recording video and audio even in super loud venues! This phone absolutely blew my mind, being that at $800 it was highest price premium flagship device I've ever had. I was in love, like many are. I've been a long time LG fanboy and have always wanted a V-series device since the V10 was released and I'd finally gotten one.
After a while of living with this device as a daily driver i began to realize that it's not as great as I'd convinced myself it was.
I spend hours every day wearing headphones connected to my main device. Listening to music continuously.
The V30 was boasted as having the greatest audiophile sound quality though it's 32bit HiFi DAC utilized through its 3.5mm headphone jack. Admittedly, the sound quality is crisp, clear, and well driven. But is it what everyone says it is? Not entirely, but it's pretty amazing nevertheless.
The overall user experience with the H932 V30 is good, yet not anymore than just that, good. Only good, bordering great but not so much.
LGs skin has always been an acquired taste and I've always been okay with it. But they seem to have been trying too hard to follow the pack rather than be original. Theu even went as far as to remove basic Android options such as better notification control as I've always loved about LG. Even dropped from 8mp front camera as in the G4 (2015) to a puny 5mp potato cam. Insert facepalm here.
They were trying to win back the confidence of the haters giving them grief over past mistakes and alienating those like myself who'd stayed loyal through the ****storm of screw-ups.
This devicehas had a terrible update frequency, which is fine as the hierarchy of AOSP, OEM, & Carrier trickles down to the users eventually. But lack of support and further updates to more refined and stable versions of Android shouldn't be withheld from the end user who pays their premium prices for a so called premium device.
At any rate, I had accepted my fate as a V30 owner and kept looking forward. Everyday there was another issue with the device. . .
Sometimes heavy lags and stutters due to LGs UX skin. Periodically the HiFi DAC ceased to do anything leaving me with flatter sound than desired.
Then there's the highly inconvenient design of the device itself.
My V30 was eligible to receive a free Google Daydream VR headset, so of course I accepted it and I enjoy it. But there's an issue with the headset, LGs design of the device. The orientation of devices for Daydream thus far is only able to be used in one direction, 90 degree rotation to the left. This means the volume buttons are going to be tucked inside the headset and inevitably pushed against the hinge of the daydream viewer! This makes the sound either go to full max volume or fully minimum volume (no sound) wearing over ear headphones for maximum emersion into day dream with the volume buttons becoming stuck to full volume is quite painful, to say the least.
The infamous 3.5mm headphone jack containing the 32bit DAC, while it sounds good it's quite poorly placed on the device. This seemingly minor detail is the one MAJOR flaw that I cannot move passed on this device no matter how hard I try. The headphone jack is placed on the top of the device, which is an absolutely horrendous design choice for several reasons, let's explore my absolute disgust...
Having the headphone jack on the top of the device means during rain or other precipitation there's a chance of the jack getting very wet or filling with water. This isn't really a major concern on an IP68 rated device but it is a thought.
With the headphone jack oriented on the top side of the device this causes an annoyance while just relaxing watching movies with headphones on while the device os plugged in. The type-c port and headphone jack are on opposite ends of the device! This makes using headphones, charging, and holding the device all simultaneously a serious pain in the @$$. At least for me having to accomplish hand gymnastics to hold the device in odd ways as not to put pressure on either ports in use and cause any sort of extra wear, fatigue, or damage of the ports or cables.
Another very similar occurrence is while out and about. Sometimes you have your headphones in while commuting and you also need to use a power bank to get some extra juice in that rather small 3300mah battery! Makes sense doesn't it? Well, now put the device in a pocket with charging cable and headphone jack plugged into it. Go ahead do it! You can't without potentially damaging the ports and/or the cables! This is enraging, truly. The headphone jack should never be on the top of the device!
This brings me to my last and most absolutely infuriating point. The damned headphone jack is on the top of the device! I commute and walk a LOT so I have headphones in often. Of course I want to take advantage of that nice Hifi DAC whilst I commute, wouldn't you?
Well it's more difficult than you'd initially think.
The cord is a nuisance, therefore I always like to tuck the headphone cable into my shirt, hoodie, or jacket to keep it from catching on, well, absolutely everything all the damn time! Well, LG doesn't want convenience for me. Haha, well played LG! If i tuck the cord into a shjrt or jacket i won't be able to lift the device above my waste without putting unnecessary pressure on the wire and/or the connector. Or forcing the earbuds to pull down uncomfortably on my ears and essentially flop out of my ears! This is just a terrible situation overall.
This means that I am forced to wear the cable outside of a shirt or jacket and risk it getting caught on something possibly severing it, breaking it, causing the earbuds to be ripped violently from my ear canals, or pull my phone out of my hand!
Absolutely true! I've dropped this device a minimum of 11 times just because of the headphone cable getting caught on something or by simply putting my hand down and accidentally snagging the cord. When your $800 device goes flying for absolutely no reason while 2 pieces of metal are violently torn from your ear canals it's hard not to be overwhelmed with rage, embarrassment, disgust, & fear of damage all at once! This is absolutely unacceptable for a device that costs more than $40 (yes, forty dollars)!
Finally, I have always out my device into my pocket top down, since my first smartphone running Android 1.5 Cupcake. This orientation just makes perfect sense as the device will be top side up when you raise it to your viewing area. But with headphones plugged in i have to have the device top up then I'm required to remove the device from my pocket and use my other hand to reorient the device in my hand to have a chance of using it. Not to mention if the device is top down in your pocket and there's no cover on the headphone jack (my cases all have cover flaps on ports) you can get various pocket lint inside or dust whatever could be in the pocket.
To top this dumbass headphone jack situation off this could be lived with if I could have 180 degree orientation and just use the phone upside down. Oh but there's no option for that! I could add it myself, but, that would require rooting the damn phone! AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHH, I hate you LG! You trolled me so badly.
But, live and learn. I only paid $325 after all rebates and deals for my V30 so whatever at this point.
In the meantime. I'm now a VERY PROUD owner of a OnePlus 6! Which DOES have the headphone jack on the bottom where it belongs. Yes, I unlocked the bootloader and rooted 53sec after opening the device.
Oh yea, its also the single greatest Android experience I've ever had. I have never once witnessed an Android device as fluid and snappy as the OnePlus 6, not once! Not to mention simply holding the devjce is nearly orgasmic in its own right. Its an absurdly sexy device and feels more premium than the V30. And the 1080p screen isn't bad. Definitely not as bad as screen banding and completely crushed shadows in video on the V30 at lower brightness!
And the OnePlus 6 is significantly cheaper than the v30 was when it launched.
As for the perfectly mounted headphone jack on the OP 6, well its sound quality makes the V30 headphone jack sound like a tin can on a string! It completely obliterates the V30 in audio output and performance. I still can't believe it myself and I own both!
That was a looooong rant about almost nothing, I don't even remember what this was about anymore. Haha
If you made it this far, good for you! You must have a lot of freetime Thanks for reading! If you're a V30 owner, I have a used SupCase Unicorn Beetle Pro case that I will no longer need for the V30. It's in great condition and fully entact no scuffs or scratches! Just cover some shipping and it's yours.
I'm not giving up on my V30 & G6. They're mine and I love them, mostly.
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I just want to say I'm sorry because I skimped though your post and maybe didn't catch everything you said, but did you realize that the LG V30 can actually be unlocked and rooted (every model BUT the H932)?
I think the only point I can agree on is the bad front camera and the back camera which is short of exceptional. The headphone jack placement is a mild discomfort, nothing more. Most other things you mentioned can be fixed via rooting.
The development for this phone is just picking up now that most models can be unlocked, and I expect a lot of improvement in the next couple of months.
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but did you realize that the LG V30 can actually be unlocked and rooted (every model BUT the H932)?
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Oh yes. I absolutely know this. And I have 2 H932s. Trust me I know. But I have a OP6 so I can finally have root again.
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Oh yes. I absolutely know this. And I have 2 H932s. Trust me I know. But I have a OP6 so I can finally have root again.
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But you lose the quad dac and the wide camera, which is a pretty big deal. And of course you could have gotten root anyway if you didn't choose a carrier locked model.
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But you lose the quad dac and the wide camera, which is a pretty big deal. And of course you could have gotten root anyway if you didn't choose a carrier locked model.
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I didn't have $900 lying around to get a phone at the time. And I couldn't have gotten non carrier devices with my Jump upgrade anyway..
It doesn't matter. My V30 & G6 are now backup phones to my OnePlus. LOL
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I love the headset jack on top, and it's the best place for it as I hold my phone on the bottom.
Just have to refute the other rant.
Also you can get bootloader unlocked and rooted mint V30+ that will work on any carrier for $335. Yesterday, with one- day sale was even $268 with free shipping.
LG V30/V30+ was the best phone of 2017 and still beats pretenders like inferior OnePlus. QHD 1440p display, Qi wireless charging, quad DAC.
I actually returned my midnight black op6 256 with 8 gigs of RAM two days ago. Went to the launch event in SF. Found out that they didn't sell 256 models there after waiting in line for an hour and a half, then ordered one online. At this time I saw the eBay auction for Sprint v30+ for $325 taxes in and ordered it immediately.
Spent a few days with both phones and concluded that the op6 (which I paid 729 for with an accessory bundle) was in no way worth over double what I paid for the v30. I find the cameras to both be just OK. Neither is in the pixel2 or iphone8 range. I do like and use the wide angle camera on v30 but the front facing is garbage. I had issues going back to a full HD screen coming from HTC 10. The vibrate motor in the op6 felt cheap. Though dash charging is arguably the superior tech, I didn't want to have to replace all of my quick chargers at home and in cars.
All in all, I think OnePlus is doing a fantastic job, I would just pay 40% more for 40% more quality. That's me. My plan is to use the v30 through the summer and see what pixel 3 looks like come fall.
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My V30 & G6 are now backup phones to my OnePlus.
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I just replaced my G6 with a V30. Does the V30 have a shortcut (or widget like the G6) for the square camera? Is the only way to access the square camera on the V30 is via the settings in the camera app?
I thought about the OP6 after my G6 died, but I can't do without wireless charging and wide angle camera.
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I just replaced my G6 with a V30. Does the V30 have a shortcut (or widget like the G6) for the square camera? Is the only way to access the square camera on the V30 is via the settings in the camera app?
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You confused me with "square camera". What do you mean?
Are you asking how to put a shortcut to your camera on the desktop? Surely you're not asking that, so what the heck is the "square camera"?
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Yeah I'm not buying a phone without Qi wireless charging. Even iPhone has that now. OnePlus doesn't know what they are doing. Maybe one day OPPO will v actually let the release a premium phone with QHD display and Qi wireless charging.
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You confused me with "square camera". What do you mean?
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On the G6, the 1:1 ratio camera is called the "Square Camera". LG provides a widget to open it directly. On Nova Launcher I can set a home screen shortcut to launch it directly. On the V30 I have to open the camera and change settings to 1:1.
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I love the headset jack on top, and it's the best place for it as I hold my phone on the bottom.
Just have to refute the other rant.
Also you can get bootloader unlocked and rooted mint V30+ that will work on any carrier for $335. Yesterday, with one- day sale was even $268 with free shipping.
LG V30/V30+ was the best phone of 2017 and still beats pretenders like inferior OnePlus. QHD 1440p display, Qi wireless charging, quad DAC.
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Hey to each their own. I hate the extra fatigue on the cord being at the top and the extra precautions I have to take.
Oh I love my V30 & G6. But I need certain stuff like bottom jack and working fastboot.
However the recording quality of the V30 is irreplaceable. I'm not getting rid of any of my LG devices.
Honestly if I could put a SD821 chip or better in my G4, I'd use it exclusively as it's practically the perfect phone in design. Dammit 808! LOL.
Currently the OP6 is the best thing I've experienced. Especially having bootloader unlock, twrp, & root 2min wfter receiving it... I can't wait to buy a 6t later this year! Yay.
BTW Chazz, are you running your V30 stock? I have crazy lags sometimes after Oreo update. Also, sometimes the device freezes when I have PiP running with YouTube. V30 needs 8.1. and to run stock Android. LOL never gonna happen on either of those.
But I'll still use it nevertheless. Heck I'm commuting right now and running OP6, V30, & G6 currently!
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But you lose the quad dac and the wide camera, which is a pretty big deal. And of course you could have gotten root anyway if you didn't choose a carrier locked model.
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The quad dac does work on AOSP roms with Whiskeyomega's mods. Wide angle should potentially work with the cstark google cam wide angle app. The camera situation is not ideal (2apks and you lose video modes if you care about those) but the mods are a perfectly fine compromise for what you get in return.
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BTW Chazz, are you running your V30 stock? I have crazy lags sometimes after Oreo update. Also, sometimes the device freezes when I have PiP running with YouTube. V30 needs 8.1. and to run stock Android. LOL never gonna happen on either of those.
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Yes, I am still running stock. I normally love custom ROMs and may move to them eventually, but I'm too busy to mess with them right now. Working 60 hour weeks right now and weekends are taken up by necessary stuff like family and mowing the grass.
Of the 5 (yes 5) V30/V30+ I have, one is being prepared for my sister, possibly one for my 88 year old mother (she's still on a Straight Talk feature phone which may be dying -- so THAT will be quite a ride, explaining not only Android to her/Google Assistant, but just modern touchscreens, etc.)
My wife is still on non-rooted V30 and I'm trying to figure out how to swap her to one of the others temporarily while I then bootloader unlock and root hers. I need like one full day to do it right.
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Yes, I am still running stock. I normally love custom ROMs and may move to them eventually, but I'm too busy to mess with them right now. Working 60 hour weeks right now and weekends are taken up by necessary stuff like family and mowing the grass.
Of the 5 (yes 5) V30/V30+ I have, one is being prepared for my sister, possibly one for my 88 year old mother (she's still on a Straight Talk feature phone which may be dying -- so THAT will be quite a ride, explaining not only Android to her/Google Assistant, but just modern touchscreens, etc.)
My wife is still on non-rooted V30 and I'm trying to figure out how to swap her to one of the others temporarily while I then bootloader unlock and root hers. I need like one full day to do it right.
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Yea I'm about to use TMobiles jump ootion on my current V30 and use my paid off one. But so far I'm loving my OnePlus 6 with official TWRP, ElementalX kernel, Magisk, V4a, and plenty of ROMs in development.
Apparently you can also flash official OTA files in TWRP as if it's a ROM. Awesome. I still daily my V30 and G6, but the OP6 is just a flatout beast with everything I could want as of right now. And the audio output is actually very good from the jack.
I know you hate 1080p display but it doesn't bother me and this device is absolutely fantastic.
Wish an unlocked V30 cost the same. But for $615 i got a nearly stock Android experience with 8gb RAM, 128gb storage, SD845, Karbon Fibre case, tempered glass screen protector, 24ohm impedance earbuds (that sound great), & an OTA cable. V30 comes with.....a microfibre cloth. Mmmhmm. At least it's LG branded. LOL
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The quad dac does work on AOSP roms with Whiskeyomega's mods. Wide angle should potentially work with the cstark google cam wide angle app. The camera situation is not ideal (2apks and you lose video modes if you care about those) but the mods are a perfectly fine compromise for what you get in return.
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I was talking about LG V30 vs OnePlus 6
In December, if my V30+ from T-Mobile doesn't have root, I'll likely be moving on to the next.
We shall see what's available.
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I don't think I have ever had a problem with charging my phone with Type-C and using the 3.5mm on top at the same time while holding my phone.....and I walk with the cord out because having it in my shirt or sweater is uncomfortable and as you said would make it almost impossible to use....i also never used it that way on my U11 which usd Type-C headphones....
One plus 6 ain't as good for multimedia
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Yea I'm about to use TMobiles jump ootion on my current V30 and use my paid off one. But so far I'm loving my OnePlus 6 with official TWRP, ElementalX kernel, Magisk, V4a, and plenty of ROMs in development.
Apparently you can also flash official OTA files in TWRP as if it's a ROM. Awesome. I still daily my V30 and G6, but the OP6 is just a flatout beast with everything I could want as of right now. And the audio output is actually very good from the jack.
I know you hate 1080p display but it doesn't bother me and this device is absolutely fantastic.
Wish an unlocked V30 cost the same. But for $615 i got a nearly stock Android experience with 8gb RAM, 128gb storage, SD845, Karbon Fibre case, tempered glass screen protector, 24ohm impedance earbuds (that sound great), & an OTA cable. V30 comes with.....a microfibre cloth. Mmmhmm. At least it's LG branded. LOL
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Lol, 1080p, as you said, worse sound than the previous one plus model through the headphone jack so it's not even in the same league as the v30, no card slot, no wide angle. How is the one plus as good as the v30 for multimedia? 8 GB of RAM is cool though. The one plus is better for opening apps speedily but not for multimedia purposes.
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Lol, 1080p, as you said, worse sound than the previous one plus model through the headphone jack so it's not even in the same league as the v30, no card slot, no wide angle. How is the one plus as good as the v30 for multimedia? 8 GB of RAM is cool though. The one plus is better for opening apps speedily but not for multimedia purposes.
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1080p is.fine.
Don't need wide angle on op6 because i have it on my V30 & my G6..
Headphone jack is 1. Mounted in a usable place the BOTTOM of the phone where it belongs. 2. Had a friggen equalizer amd sounds absolutely incredible because I can drop the disgusting treble way down.
Besides that, i can actually root the op6 unlike my v30 and I can use V4A which add to the amazing experience of the OP6s dac.
I don't even care that the op6 is 30x faster than my v30. All i care about is the properly mounted headphone jack so i can actually use wired headphones outside of my home. Being able to tuck my cord into a shirt (between shirt and undershirt) or hoodie keeping me from ruining my cord or repeatedly dropping the device because I keep getting caught.on anything like my own goddamn hands. Also, I can pocket the device the CORRECT way, top side down, instead of the top side up bull**** that makes the fingerprint scanner unusable without rotation of the phone in hand.
I'm not bad mouthing the v30. It has the potential to be good. Everything is a 10/10 on it but the headphone jack drops 4 points and no root drops more. But it's still better than crapple.
Id love it more if I could have a friggen equalizer on the headphone jack so I could take advantage of the sound..
Besides having the device plugged in with headphones while holding it is the most awkward bull**** experience ever. You have to hold it a very particular way as to not ruin the cords on both sides and cramp your fingers. Headphone jack on top is is not practical in any way. Its only good for plugging into speakers and setting the phone down or in a car with aux cord..
Headphone jack location alone is the factor that makes this device not worth buying if you want to use headphones on the go without taping an extension to your phone like I had to.
But mine only costed me $310 so its a.great backup/work phone
The Dirac tuned audio may not be as mainstream as B&O, but at least it has an EQ built-in. Besides, the OnePlus headphones ($20) are far superior to the the LG/B&O headphones ($140) in sound quality and bass. And both sound better on the OP6 with reduced treble.
Also, audio calling on the V30 with headphones is awful! I can hear everything in my Microphone like breathing and the cord flopping around. Granted the other person doesn't, but I can. It's realy upsetting.
BTW this is difficult to type as I just sliced off my thumb tip at work a few hours ago and cannot use it..
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Besides, i only get 8hrs of SOT with the v30.
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Hi everyone!
I need to buy a new phone but I'm stuck on choosing between this two phones, LG G7 (for 300€) or Oneplus 6 (for 400€).
I kindly ask you which one is better overall. The only two things I care more are camera quality and software updates.
Thanks for your help!
If you care about software, geet thee oneplus 6.
Camera on the LG g2/g4 is beter then this one..
Software updates sux on LG....
But over all I would have chosen lg g7..
I think the lg g7 is way better than oneplus 6. G7 is a military grade phone. It have ip 68 rating oneplus 6 don't have this. Lg g7 cameras are good too plus u get the second camera as the ultra-wide camera. In my opinion g7 is the best choice
I used to have Oneplus 6 an now Im owning G7.
I prefer G7 - easier to hold it in one hand, wide angle camera and the most important for me is headphne jack with QuadDac.
software updates, customization, forum support is much better for Oneplus.
no matter what you chose, you'll be happy
G7.. Even at full prices. At current prices, no brainer.
Had a 6T prefer the G7. Little things like the vibration motor makes a world of a difference in quality feel for me and the excellent manual mode in the camera. Also G7 feels more solid in build quality and looks sexy as hell in real life. Pictures don't do it justice.
G7 - Better build quality, a better vibration motor, Quad-Dac, Boombox speaker, wide-angle.
6T- Fastest Updates, clean software, the better primary camera then G7, community support, AMOLED, bigger battery.
If you don't care about Quad-Dac, better vibration motor, and a better quality bottom speaker then go with OnePlus 6T.
No wireless charging = no purchase. I also use the headphone jack a lot... even though I yearn for the 6/6T. The G7 was/is the right phone for me.
For me,the Boom Box feature is the main factor to pick the G7..
What if a phone without sd support crash? Can you get into the memory to get your backup? I was happy once I unlucky damaged my phone with broken usb cable, it was unreadable at my computer. but i could recover all files lucky enough and pictures. I don't buy any phone that not support a sd card for that. Don't forget this is the most bright screen of all,one of the better single bottom speakerand and ip 68.
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@zaragon567 , where did you see the G7 for 300 EUR? I just paid over 400 and thought I got a pretty good deal, but I think I can return it within 2 weeks...