battery M9 with different capacity - One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone tried a different battery capacity? I found a 3000 mAh on ebay, did anyone tried it?
Do you think is harmful?
Thank you in advance

Is this battery built by HTC was is a third-party battery that is working with HTC?

It isn't a HTC battery, is a spare with more capacity, but I don't know if it's harmful or not, I didn't found anything in internet about it...

I don't think the battery capacity will harm the phone, maybe just the battery will hold longer or not, depends on it's quality.

The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..

znarf77 said:
The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
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The phone will charge and discharge the extra 150mAh but the correct capacity will not be reported by software.
Anyway 2850 vs 3000 is a little change, and if the battery quality is lower than HTC original battery maybe you'll not see any difference or maybe the battery will hold shorter.

znarf77 said:
The point is: does the actual stock battery has a fix number of cycles or whatever? The actual battery has 2850 mah capacity, the new one 3000...the difference of 150 mah will be recognized by the mobile? This is my concern..
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From what i've seen on the Galaxy Gear S forums, somebody fitted a bigger battery inside and it worked just fine.
And his watch now lasts a few more days.
Anyway, for 150mAh more is simply not worth the risk.

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[Q] Does ICS have correct percentages for extended batteries?

Okay so, my last phone was a Droid X2 and I got a 3500 mah extended battery for it. It was on Android 2.3.5 and Android's battery meter did not correctly read the battery's percentage.
When it got to 1% battery it would simply stay there for a while before it died.
I am wondering if this problem is fixed with the Galaxy Nexus or ICS in general?
I purchased a Seidio 3800mah battery and I'm curious to know if I can rely on it's battery readings.
Thanks in advanced!
donlad said:
Okay so, my last phone was a Droid X2 and I got a 3500 mah extended battery for it. It was on Android 2.3.5 and Android's battery meter did not correctly read the battery's percentage.
When it got to 1% battery it would simply stay there for a while before it died.
I am wondering if this problem is fixed with the Galaxy Nexus or ICS in general?
I purchased a Seidio 3800mah battery and I'm curious to know if I can rely on it's battery readings.
Thanks in advanced!
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I have the official Samsung Extended Battery (2100mAh) and it reads it perfectly. Charges all the way to 100% and then dies at 0% (doesn't hang at 1%).
anton2009 said:
I have the official Samsung Extended Battery (2100mAh) and it reads it perfectly. Charges all the way to 100% and then dies at 0% (doesn't hang at 1%).
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Thanks for the quick response
I see you said you have the official battery and I'm wondering if there's anybody with a non official battery (if that even makes a difference).
Also I'm wondering about high mah batteries such as the 3800 mah from Seidio or another from Mugen Power.
Thanks
The percentage comes from the chip in the battery, not ICS. So any official battery would output the correct SoC which the driver can read. A cheap battery may or may not depending if that manufacturer setup the chip correctly.
Android 2.3.5 was identical. If it was a 3500 seido they typically give correct charge. If it was a cheaper one then thats why your droidx didnt display properly.
Has to do with the fuel gauge chip, not the OS. Galaxy nexus uses max10740. Nexus one used ds2784. Droidx was totally different too. All depends on that chip.
RogerPodacter said:
The percentage comes from the chip in the battery, not ICS. So any official battery would output the correct SoC which the driver can read. A cheap battery may or may not depending if that manufacturer setup the chip correctly.
Android 2.3.5 was identical. If it was a 3500 seido they typically give correct charge. If it was a cheaper one then thats why your droidx didnt display properly.
Has to do with the fuel gauge chip, not the OS. Galaxy nexus uses max10740. Nexus one used ds2784. Droidx was totally different too. All depends on that chip.
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Yes it was a cheap off-brand battery and that probably explains why it wasn't showing correct percentages.
Thank you!

New battery

Hello all,
Just a quick question, I ordered a new battery the other day (2450 mAh) and it only charges to 80% before saying it is full. I'm sure that even though I'm on stock kernel I should be able to run a larger battery, so I'm assuming the battery is faulty.
Could anybody give me clarification on the biggest battery size you can run on stock kernel?
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Do a battery calibration, google it.
I lot of the 'unbranded' batteries with optimistic power capacities have no regulations around what they state the 'real' usable mAh life of the battery is.
I'd be very surprised if the battery gives you longer usage than your original 1700mAh battery.
I'm guessing it'll probably be considerably less.
There is no limit to battery capacity within the limits of what you can physically fit into the recess provided for the BA900 battery.
Mugen Power can only get a 1900mAh battery in that size... so that's something to consider when you think about a 2450mAh battery.

LG G4 high capacity battery

Hi,
I ordered from ebay a high capacity battery .http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-G4-Batte...7d094f3&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=252598901115
The thing is that it take less time to charge and after five charges it has 10% i think more capacity.
Do you think is a fake battery; It says made in Japan.
What should i do;
astrovasilis said:
Hi,
I ordered from ebay a high capacity battery .http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-G4-Batte...7d094f3&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=252598901115
The thing is that it take less time to charge and after five charges it has 10% i think more capacity.
Do you think is a fake battery; It says made in Japan.
What should i do;
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It looks like it has the same size as the original battery so I'd say it's fake. You should cancel the order
astrovasilis said:
Hi,
I ordered from ebay a high capacity battery .http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-G4-Batte...7d094f3&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=252598901115
The thing is that it take less time to charge and after five charges it has 10% i think more capacity.
Do you think is a fake battery; It says made in Japan.
What should i do;
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they all are arent they.? i mean i think its a 3200 battery. not 4000mah.. not sure if they can produce bigger capacity without battery getting bigger. sometimes they just claime higher mah but they are not.
astrovasilis said:
Hi,
I ordered from ebay a high capacity battery .http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-G4-Batte...7d094f3&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=252598901115
The thing is that it take less time to charge and after five charges it has 10% i think more capacity.
Do you think is a fake battery; It says made in Japan.
What should i do;
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Almost anything that claims more battery capacity while keeping the same design is most likely to be fake. I'd recommend getting an actual extended battery which is bigger than stock such as powerbear or zerolemon.
astrovasilis said:
Hi,
I ordered from ebay a high capacity battery .http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-G4-Batte...7d094f3&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=252598901115
The thing is that it take less time to charge and after five charges it has 10% i think more capacity.
Do you think is a fake battery; It says made in Japan.
What should i do;
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I bought one and it's a normal battery of 3000 mah.
raptorddd said:
they all are arent they.? i mean i think its a 3200 battery. not 4000mah.. not sure if they can produce bigger capacity without battery getting bigger. sometimes they just claime higher mah but they are not.
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They can do it with AA and AAA size batteries, so why not?
Batter tech does get better, I suppose..
As far as the OP's question goes. No idea..
#H
Hostilian said:
They can do it with AA and AAA size batteries, so why not?
Batter tech does get better, I suppose..
As far as the OP's question goes. No idea..
#H
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yes not sure why.. but its same some claim 2600mah when they are lower mah. or build quality. not sure why it AA AAA same size but they are nickel metal hydred this are lipos and i know that the more mah they change in chape or tickness.
i used to use lipos for rc helicopters back in the days. specially in the micro helis.

3500mAh

I found this battery on AliExpress among others that claim to have bigger capacity than the original. Has anyone tried aftermarket batteries? Any advice?
XDRdaniel said:
I found this battery on AliExpress among others that claim to have bigger capacity than the original. Has anyone tried aftermarket batteries? Any advice?
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Well it should work since it is the same Voltage. Voltage is a really important one. Several people have tried it on other phones and it worked fine.
XDRdaniel said:
I found this battery on AliExpress among others that claim to have bigger capacity than the original. Has anyone tried aftermarket batteries? Any advice?
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You can go through this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...lacing-3400-mah-oneplus-3t-oneplus-3-t3510883
I would like to know if it works in case you buy this, brother and if it really improves the battery life. Ideally, since voltage is same it shouldn't cause any issues.
The thread of putting 3400mah 3T battery in 3 doesn't work because of different voltage.
It might work or it might not. I've seen cases on YouTube with batteries of different capacities inserted in android phone that would work, and they greatly increased the phone's life. I will try myself in the end, but I was curious if someone did it before me.. like, would it charge, would it show up as the capacity stated, will it last longer, etc
XDRdaniel said:
It might work or it might not. I've seen cases on YouTube with batteries of different capacities inserted in android phone that would work, and they greatly increased the phone's life. I will try myself in the end, but I was curious if someone did it before me.. like, would it charge, would it show up as the capacity stated, will it last longer, etc
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Let me know bro, if it works. I'll also order then. Also test on both stock and custom ROMs.
Looking at the Voltages it should work.
Recently OnePlus has patched their bootloader so the phone won't boot If you swap the battery for the one of OP3T (3400 mAh).
I'm not sure what they check for determine whether is the original OP3 battery or the OP3T battery, my guesses are the Voltages or the Raw capacity of the battery.
If they check the Voltages, since the Voltage of the OP3 battery is Nominal 3.80 (V) and Charge 4.35 (V) vs the 3.85 (V) and 4.40 (V) on the OP3T battery, therefore that battery should work. But If they check the capacity of the battery that battery won't work or neither of the battery that are more than 3000 mAh
Let us know If you try it!
@XDRdaniel Answering your questions, If it works;
Yes, it should charge (as the charger/motherboard/USB Power Delivery is rated for those voltages), It might not show the full capacity but that could be modified (not big deal) but it would charge to the full capacity and Yes it should last longer, assuming that the cell used are from a good quality.

Changing battery capacity

hellou guys. wanted to ask a question about battery, cause somewhere on internet i saw that battery capacity info is saved in kernel.
ive replaced stock battery 3430mah with a battery for 6200mah in google pixel 3xl. But in any battery info program and in AIDA64 it shows the same 3430 just like before replacement.
so the question is, do anyone knows how to change phone info about battery capacity?
Probably the capacity of that battery is wrong.maybe is the same or lower.and as far as I know the kernel has to be updated to the correct capacity if it's not a fake one that you buy.
vasiliouv84 said:
Probably the capacity of that battery is wrong.maybe is the same or lower.and as far as I know the kernel has to be updated to the correct capacity if it's not a fake one that you buy.
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ive monitored im getting charge counter more than 3430 sometimes, so i can get higher than 3430. but it cant cause of limitations of charging(it hits 100% and charging just stops)
so i dont think its fake
Battery charge is estimated through output voltage, some newer phones might have smart baterries but they are also measuring current and charging power to estimate life time. What apps and phone tells you is actually capacity propotional to voltage level. Putting a double capacity battery seems fake because of physical restrictions, again charge capacity reporting is based on kernel and you had to modifiy everytime you apply an update.
So why bother, as long as you have 8-10 sot with normal daily usage ? But are you really getting that sot's ?

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