USB-C chargers with QC3 work fine with the Pixel2XL? - Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories

Hi,
I have 2 chargers that I used with my older phone, both are QC3 compatible, USB-C port and 1 of them can deliver 5/9/12 volts.
no matter if I use 1 of them or the charger that came with the pixel2xl I see (in Ampere app) it always charging at around 5V and 1A.
does it mean that any of them is good? is it possible to charge it even faster?
the charging speed is pretty much ok I think.

QC3 will not do anything but charge at standard speeds. This device is power delivery. QC4 will be compatible with power delivery, but good luck finding a QC4 charger.
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Don_Perrignon said:
QC3 will not do anything but charge at standard speeds. This device is power delivery. QC4 will be compatible with power delivery, but good luck finding a QC4 charger.
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You mean Google sends an old style charger with the phone? Instead of the kind that the phone is designed for?

wtherrell said:
You mean Google sends an old style charger with the phone? Instead of the kind that the phone is designed for?
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No. It comes with a Power Delivery charger, the phone is a Power Delivery device.
QC3 and below will charge at a standard (slower) speed. QC4 is compatible with QC and Power Delivery - but, at this time there is no QC4 chargers, oddly.
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wtherrell said:
You mean Google sends an old style charger with the phone? Instead of the kind that the phone is designed for?
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google use PD standard instead of QC
so if you want fast charging
get your self a PD charger
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dimiboy said:
Hi,
I have 2 chargers that I used with my older phone, both are QC3 compatible, USB-C port and 1 of them can deliver 5/9/12 volts.
no matter if I use 1 of them or the charger that came with the pixel2xl I see (in Ampere app) it always charging at around 5V and 1A.
does it mean that any of them is good? is it possible to charge it even faster?
the charging speed is pretty much ok I think.
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pd charger if you want fast charging

The OP said that using the charger that came with the Pixel 2xl still charged no faster than the older ones (5v 1A) or did I misread the post?

wtherrell said:
The OP said that using the charger that came with the Pixel 2xl still charged no faster than the older ones (5v 1A) or did I misread the post?
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He said many other things, too.
I think constantly charging with the screen off helps with the charging speed. It shouldn't, but reading other threads has me thinking this. I also, think his phone is faulty.
He also said he thinks the speed is ok.
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For the heck of it, I tried the OEM charger with the Ampere app, and it was showing basically 5v at 1 amp. Tried the usb A port on my power strip that does 5v at 2.4 amps, and it read the same 5V at 1 amp. The 1 amp port on the power strip gave a reading closer to 4v at 1 amp.
Not sure what the data source is for the app because the OEM charger definitely charges quickly. I have no doubt the OEM is doing 9 volts at 2 amps. Or something definitely higher than 5v at 2.4 amps. I am assuming it is a net figure being measured somewhere not in the line from the port, since it'll also show the discharge when unplugged. So this is not the power coming into the phone.

So as far as I checked, everything is charging well.
The problem is that if you will install few other Ampere measuring programs, some will reveal that they don't have access to the sensor of the phone so the data isn't accurate.
so, we can hope it's ok. sadly I can't find anywhere a physical USB-C Ampere meter to buy for now.

Voicebox said:
For the heck of it, I tried the OEM charger with the Ampere app, and it was showing basically 5v at 1 amp. Tried the usb A port on my power strip that does 5v at 2.4 amps, and it read the same 5V at 1 amp. The 1 amp port on the power strip gave a reading closer to 4v at 1 amp.
Not sure what the data source is for the app because the OEM charger definitely charges quickly. I have no doubt the OEM is doing 9 volts at 2 amps. Or something definitely higher than 5v at 2.4 amps. I am assuming it is a net figure being measured somewhere not in the line from the port, since it'll also show the discharge when unplugged. So this is not the power coming into the phone.
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Nathan k over on Google+ has done some tests with the new pixel 2xl. You can see his results there, and yes, the charge rate absolutely slows down with screen on.

CBMC said:
Nathan k over on Google+ has done some tests with the new pixel 2xl. You can see his results there, and yes, the charge rate absolutely slows down with screen on.
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Yeah, I would assume slower rate with screen on, but would it reduce from 9 volts at 2 amps from the OEM charger, to showing only 5 volts at 1 amp? Mine does seem to slow noticeably, but that'd be a big change. Unless it specifically drops the incoming power down when the screen goes on.
I think someone needs to throw down the $25 to get an in line USB C meter to just measure. I almost did yesterday, but got too busy to read the reviews of the ones available.

Voicebox said:
Yeah, I would assume slower rate with screen on, but would it reduce from 9 volts at 2 amps from the OEM charger, to showing only 5 volts at 1 amp? Mine does seem to slow noticeably, but that'd be a big change. Unless it specifically drops the incoming power down when the screen goes on.
I think someone needs to throw down the $25 to get an in line USB C meter to just measure. I almost did yesterday, but got too busy to read the reviews of the ones available.
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Check out Nathan k. On Google+. He measured wattage from empty to full with screen on. He also did some tests at load.

CBMC said:
Check out Nathan k. On Google+. He measured wattage from empty to full with screen on. He also did some tests at load.
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Yeah, thanks. I'm not on Google + and I tried searching earlier and some usb C groups popped up, and they had so much unrelated stuff I just stopped looking.

does anyone know if using QC3 or say an older Nexus 6p charger really hurts the Pixel 2 XL? I keep hearing X and Y chargers shouldnt be used on the Pixel 2 XL..but does it really matter? is the only downside slower charging? or can you really hurt the battery?

phyl0x said:
does anyone know if using QC3 or say an older Nexus 6p charger really hurts the Pixel 2 XL? I keep hearing X and Y chargers shouldnt be used on the Pixel 2 XL..but does it really matter? is the only downside slower charging? or can you really hurt the battery?
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I have used many different types of chargers with no issue.
Nexus 6
Samsung Note 5
Chromecast
Asus that was used for my old dock stations
Generic USB plug in my desk powerbar (likely 5V 1a standard)
QC3 car charger
PD car charger
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High Capacity Charger

Just got my hands on the CyberMonday Moto X and I AM PSYCHED!
Now quick question.
I have a Blackberry Playbook Rapid Charger, that outputs about 1.8 amps. The voltages is identical to the A/C adapter from Moto. Can I use it to charge up the Moto X? Or would the higher current damage the internal parts?
My knowledge of electrics is limited to high school science, and subject to chronicle decay over the past 10 years.
DrDecoy said:
Just got my hands on the CyberMonday Moto X and I AM PSYCHED!
Now quick question.
I have a Blackberry Playbook Rapid Charger, that outputs about 1.8 amps. The voltages is identical to the A/C adapter from Moto. Can I use it to charge up the Moto X?
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Yes
DrDecoy said:
Or would the higher current damage the internal parts?
My knowledge of electrics is limited to high school science, and subject to chronicle decay over the past 10 years.
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No, the phone will only draw as much as it can support. Rapid charging is generally considered to shorten the life of lithium batteries however.
Phone will only charge around 1amp as far as I can tell. One of the things I miss about my s4 is that it charges at 2amps
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The Moto X can pull at up to 1.5A
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/6
King Speedy said:
The Moto X can pull at up to 1.5A
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/6
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Spec wise it may say that , but I haven't seen it hit anything over 940mah. Says full charge is 2.5 hours which sounds about right but that's a far cry from the s4 that charges zero to full in 1 hour
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Legacystar said:
Spec wise it may say that , but I haven't seen it hit anything over 940mah. Says full charge is 2.5 hours which sounds about right but that's a far cry from the s4 that charges zero to full in 1 hour
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Yeah I charge my S4 @ 1.9A and it's done in no time. I know it's bad for the battery but, that's the real benefit of having a replaceable battery!
Legacystar said:
Spec wise it may say that , but I haven't seen it hit anything over 940mah. Says full charge is 2.5 hours which sounds about right but that's a far cry from the s4 that charges zero to full in 1 hour
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What are you using to determine that?
KidJoe said:
What are you using to determine that?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
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Legacystar said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
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Thanks, I use that too. But I question its accuracy on the X since it doesn't properly detect my battery's capacity (i have to manually enter it), and often it shows -600mA when running (and not connected to power) even though I can get 24hrs+ out of the charge.
During charge cycles, I've even seen it only show +2mA and +3mA when plugged into AC (and battery is in the 40% remaining).
Right now when I look at it now, its showing +950mA while plugged into the Smart port on my Anker 2nd Gen Astro 3 12000mah battery.
Edit: now its showing +731mA so its all over the place. Not sure if this is the app or the phone.
Does anyone know how well these rapid chargers work with extended batteries like the Morphie or the Zero Lemon?
Greg8 said:
Does anyone know how well these rapid chargers work with extended batteries like the Morphie or the Zero Lemon?
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As long as the charger's output voltage matches the device's input voltage requirement, any charger should work. Then it becomes how much current (amps, or A) does the charger output vs how much current does the device need to charge, which will factor into the time it takes to charge the device.
A few examples:
With a Droid Bionic that ships with a 850mA charger, it will barely charge when using a 550mA (.55A) charger or USB port on my PC. With a 750mA (.75A) charger it takes about 10 to 15 minutes longer than when using the 850. Using a 1000mA (or 1A) charger from my HTC Thunderbolt it charges about 20 minutes quicker than when using the stock 850 charger. Even though using a 2000mA (2A) charger can provide more current, the Bionic charges in the same amount of time as with a 1A charger.
iPad 3. It comes with a 2100mA (2.1A) charger. The 1A charger that comes with my iPhone 5 and 5s doesn't provide enough current for the iPad. It wont charge the iPad unless I power it off, and even then it takes way too long.
The X comes with the 1150mA (1.15A) "duo rapid charger." The X doesn't charge any faster using the 2.1A ipad charger (using a standard micro usb cable of course). And it does seem to charge at about the same speed as when using my 1A charger from my HTC Thunderbolt. While I've used the 850mA charger initially (so I didn't have to replace any of my cords on my dresser), I haven't timed its charging with the 850mA vs 1A.
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King Speedy said:
The Moto X can pull at up to 1.5A
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/6
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(sorry about replying to an old post but...)
it says "if you use that kind of charger" the article also says that the X comes with a 850mA charger yet mine is labeled 1150mA output. Either way, an 850mA or 1150mA can't supply 1500mA (1.5A) current.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the LG G5 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Great Charging
This is the first phone I have had that would actually increase the charge significantly while navigating using google maps in the daylight. And it increases pretty fast.
My Anker QuickCharge 3.0 charger got my G5 from 0 to 100% in ~75 minutes while on. The same charger port got my spare battery in the cradle fro 0 to 100% in ~3 hours (it only pulled 5V).
After lunch today, I plugged it into a USB 3.0 port on my Lenovo T430, and it got from 60 to 100% in under 30 minutes while pulling over 1.2 amps (way above spec).
I'm happily impressed!
Could be better? Not close to the G4
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Could be better? Not close to the G4
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That's simply not possible unless you are using a non QC 3.0 charger or bad lead.
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stuart0001 said:
That's simply not possible unless you are using a non QC 3.0 charger or bad lead.
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Well i aint going to get in to an argument but 30+ hours on my G4 and 20+ hours on my G5? I think i might have a point?
jamiee6610 said:
Well i aint going to get in to an argument but 30+ hours on my G4 and 20+ hours on my G5? I think i might have a point?
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This thread is about charging speed, not battery life.
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I'm loving the charging speed. It's like night and day compared to the M9 I used to own.
Doesn't seem much faster than speed charge 2.0 at all to me
jamiee6610 said:
Well i aint going to get in to an argument but 30+ hours on my G4 and 20+ hours on my G5? I think i might have a point?
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Remember the G4 had a bigger battery so its only obvious the G4 last longer. But luckily we can buy multiple extra batteries :good:
Dano79 said:
Doesn't seem much faster than speed charge 2.0 at all to me
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As has been discussed elsewhere, QC 3.0 doesn't boost speed much if at all over 2.0. Instead it provides a continuous range of charging voltages (or amps? or whatever) so that it can charge at just the right rate. This should heat the battery less and (in theory, no idea how true/noticeable this will be after a year of use) wear down the battery less because of it.
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Doesn't seem much faster than speed charge 2.0 at all to me
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Screen off = no difference in speed
Try with screen on then 3.0 is 2-3x as fast as 2.0
This has made a massive difference in the car when my screen stays on.
3.0 charges at a solid 1A with screen on as oppose to 2.0 that only musters 0.3-0.6A depending on phone temperature. ?
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just throwing this in.
acording to Benson Leung LG G5 is not usb type c compliant when it comes to charging.
has anyone here tried charging the G5 using a true usb type c fast charger? i wonder what the outcome might be.
i'll be sad if i have to buy separate chargers just for this phone. (in case i get any true usb type c devices in future i mean)
http://www.xda-developers.com/be-wa...uick-charge-is-not-usb-type-c-spec-compliant/
GottZ said:
just throwing this in.
acording to Benson Leung LG G5 is not usb type c compliant when it comes to charging.
has anyone here tried charging the G5 using a true usb type c fast charger? i wonder what the outcome might be.
i'll be sad if i have to buy separate chargers just for this phone. (in case i get any true usb type c devices in future i mean)
http://www.xda-developers.com/be-wa...uick-charge-is-not-usb-type-c-spec-compliant/
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Charged fine with my 6P charger. About 2A so not full whack, but no issues.
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stuart0001 said:
Charged fine with my 6P charger. About 2A so not full whack, but no issues.
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are you using a cable that contains a 56K resistor?
GottZ said:
are you using a cable that contains a 56K resistor?
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No idea. It's the 1 that came with the 6P so I would expect so.
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GottZ said:
just throwing this in.
acording to Benson Leung LG G5 is not usb type c compliant when it comes to charging.
has anyone here tried charging the G5 using a true usb type c fast charger? i wonder what the outcome might be.
i'll be sad if i have to buy separate chargers just for this phone. (in case i get any true usb type c devices in future i mean)
http://www.xda-developers.com/be-wa...uick-charge-is-not-usb-type-c-spec-compliant/
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Qualcomm's Quick Charge goes outside the USB-C spec in order to be able to charge compatible Quick Charge devices faster (higher voltages when possible).
Dose this meet the USB-C spec, no... Would I be concerned about it, Not if I'm using a reputable QC charger and USB-C cable.
Happy fast charging....
I'll be commenting on these cables and QC3.0 charging on my battery charging thread once I have more data. I have 2 QC3.0 USB wall chargers that I'm collecting data on now. These both have USB-A ports, so they need cable adapters.
But yes, early SPOILER @GottZ: The USB-C compliant cables (USB-A to USB-C) with the resistor limit the benefit of QC3 over QC2. But @stuart0001 does have a point with charging with the screen on.
waylo said:
I'll be commenting on these cables and QC3.0 charging on my battery charging thread once I have more data. I have 2 QC3.0 USB wall chargers that I'm collecting data on now. These both have USB-A ports, so they need cable adapters.
But yes, early SPOILER @GottZ: The USB-C compliant cables (USB-A to USB-C) with the resistor limit the benefit of QC3 over QC2. But @stuart0001 does have a point with charging with the screen on.
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I look forward to your findings.
After further experimentation, QC 2.0 will hit 1A with screen on when below 32deg. So I've found when screen on:
QC 2.0
<32 = 1A
32-35 = 0.6A
35-42 = 0.3A
>42 =? (I haven't tested yet)
QC 3.0 maintains 1A, certainly upto 42. Again, I've not tested higher than that.
This is all with the cable that came with the phone.
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I look forward to your findings.
After further experimentation, QC 2.0 will hit 1A with screen on when below 32deg. So I've found when screen on:
QC 2.0
<32 = 1A
32-35 = 0.6A
35-42 = 0.3A
>42 =? (I haven't tested yet)
QC 3.0 maintains 1A, certainly upto 42. Again, I've not tested higher than that.
This is all with the cable that came with the phone.
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when talking about QC 2/3 you should also mention volt or just combine volts and amps to watts
just talking about amps is like saying A: has 2 inches Ampere and B: has 3 inches Ampere

Compatible charger

I had a Moto X4 but it was stolen so I bought a Pixel 2 XL. It's second-hand and it doesn't come with charger, so I want to know if X4's charger is compatible. I think it's 15W. I ask because I don't want to damage its battery (X4 is 3000 mAh and Pixel 2 XL is 3520 mAh). Thanks in advance.
The device's battery has safeguards to prevent damage, so don't worry about the battery itself. The P2XL charger is a dual voltage unit that outputs both at 9 volts and 5 volts, with a corresponding amperage of 3 amps and 2 amps. A charger from an older device that only has a 5V, 2A brick, such as the Nexus 6, would charge the P2XL, provided a Micro-USB to USB-C adapter is attached to the end. However, you would lose the ability to rapidly charge the device. If the charger is a dual voltage charger, you will need to check the charger to make sure the output voltages and amperages at least equal those on the P2XL charger. If they do not, do not use the charger. You risk burning out the charger and potentially starting an electrical fire.
Quite honestly, I would go to the Google store and spend the $40 on their charger and cable. That way you're certain you have everything correct.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The device's battery has safeguards to prevent damage, so don't worry about the battery itself. The P2XL charger is a dual voltage unit that outputs both at 9 volts and 5 volts, with a corresponding amperage of 3 amps and 2 amps. A charger from an older device that only has a 5V, 2A brick, such as the Nexus 6, would charge the P2XL, provided a Micro-USB to USB-C adapter is attached to the end. However, you would lose the ability to rapidly charge the device. If the charger is a dual voltage charger, you will need to check the charger to make sure the output voltages and amperages at least equal those on the P2XL charger. If they do not, do not use the charger. You risk burning out the charger and potentially starting an electrical fire.
Quite honestly, I would go to the Google store and spend the $40 on their charger and cable. That way you're certain you have everything correct.
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Thank you for your answer.
I've checked and it says
5V _ 3A
9V _ 1.6 A
12V _ 1.2 A
They aren't exactly equal, but is it really dangerous?
I wouldn't have problem to buy an original charger, but the problem is that I live in Argentina, so no Google store, and it's very hard to get an original charger.
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They aren't exactly equal, but is it really dangerous?
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Yes. Drawing 2 amps from a 1.6 amp charger will at best burn out the charger. At worst it will cause a fire.
Check Amazon for a charger.
It's fine. It'll pull from the 5V/3A. No need to waste your money.
igna.98 said:
Thank you for your answer.
I've checked and it says
5V _ 3A
9V _ 1.6 A
12V _ 1.2 A
They aren't exactly equal, but is it really dangerous?
I wouldn't have problem to buy an original charger, but the problem is that I live in Argentina, so no Google store, and it's very hard to get an original charger.
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While you're right that the 5V rating is correct, the problem comes when rapid charge is enabled. At that point it kicks over to the 9V setting. The 400mA difference between what the P2XL requires and what the charger outputs will eventually destroy the charger or worse.
Based on what I remember of my basic electronics training the amperage of the power source must always equal or exceed the amperage rating of the item. To not do so places excess wear on the components in the form of heat. Eventually the circuits melt from the strain and the power source burns out. That's if you're lucky. If you're really lucky your house goes up in flames. So no, it's NOT ok to use the power supply and it's reckless to suggest that it can.
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While you're right that the 5V rating is correct, the problem comes when rapid charge is enabled. At that point it kicks over to the 9V setting. The 400mA difference between what the P2XL requires and what the charger outputs will eventually destroy the charger or worse.
Based on what I remember of my basic electronics training the amperage of the power source must always equal or exceed the amperage rating of the item. To not do so places excess wear on the components in the form of heat. Eventually the circuits melt from the strain and the power source burns out. That's if you're lucky. If you're really lucky your house goes up in flames. So no, it's NOT ok to use the power supply and it's reckless to suggest that it can.
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I bought this. Is it OK? https://www.ebay.com/itm/263772958889
@igna.98: Yep. That one matches the stock charger in specs, so you're good to go.
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@igna.98: Yep. That one matches the stock charger in specs, so you're good to go.
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Thanks, however it'll arrive in one month, so till that day I'll have to use X4's charger, hope nothing happens.
igna.98 said:
Thanks, however it'll arrive in one month, so till that day I'll have to use X4's charger, hope nothing happens.
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You'll have to check the charger periodically to make sure it isn't too hot. If it gets uncomfortable to the touch, pull it from the outlet.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Yes. Drawing 2 amps from a 1.6 amp charger will at best burn out the charger. At worst it will cause a fire.
Check Amazon for a charger.
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What about the charger that have following specs:
9v:3a and 5v:3a? Will it be safe to charge my phone?
Thank you in advance!
kaiwanted said:
What about the charger that have following specs:
9v:3a and 5v:3a? Will it be safe to charge my phone?
Thank you in advance!
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That's fine, as the amperage at 5V exceeds the amperage the device requires (2A).
I've had several of these running for years with no problems. Used on my 6P and the 2XL.
QC 3.0 Travel Charger, aLLreLi... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N2SDSZW?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Just realized that link goes to an unavailable but the point was there are good options.
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how to get more speed charging?

hi guys,
i have two chargers,
1. output 9.0V 1.67A or 5.0V 2.0A
2. output 5.2V 2.4A
and a usb-c cable, in the cable box i find that this cable is supporting for fast charging and support to 2.4A but when i tried it with the two chargers, and test it using 'ampere' app i got max to 1010mA with both chargers adapter ! even with this value i feel it charging my mobile quickly, and in the bottom of the lock screen i see 'charging rapidly' but i want more and why the phone is not charged depending on the values in the chargers (1.67A - 2.0A - 2.4A) and cable (2.4A)
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
sublimaze said:
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There's nothing I can help you guys with. All I can tell you is what ratings your charger should have, based upon the information printed on the pair of chargers I received with my device when I purchased it directly from Google. If you have a genuine Google charger and the P2XL is still not charging fast, contact Google.
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
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Unfortunately, i hope someone could help
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
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I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
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maybe your opinion is right. my next experiment is from 0% to 100% with the old charger and with the stock charger, then i will see if there is a difference
tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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That makes sense then, it seems like everything gets more complicated every year.
I just purchased one of these from Amazon. Note that it supports Power Delivery 3.0. This unit quick charges my phone. The Moto Charger I have for my old Moto G5+ which is a Qualcomm charger will charge the phone but only at slow speeds.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H6BQNGF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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i bought this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570
what do you think ?
If it is really the OEM parts that will work. The pictures look like mine, but ya know eBay....

25w car charger

Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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Try any type from Anker. As long as it has qualcomm fast charging, it is fast enough. Only a couple minutes behind stock samsung charger.
I have advice for you.
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Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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I think you should go to the stores and look for them, they have lots and their staff will advise you.
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Did anyone find a good fast car charger?
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Edit From My Post Below. As I looked more into this, my wall charger that came with my phone is just a small 25w box EP-TA800 which I don't understand why accubattery says its getting 5,000+ mAh from it but needless to say the baseus car charger below is able to supply the 25w means while my Anker charger doesn't https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Charger...rger&qid=1575374418&smid=AREE309N4XPXI&sr=8-5 . It looks like I need a new cable to make this 45w thing to work, if it even works with baseus. but still better then the pixel 2 xl 16.3W charging speed. But even if one where able to achieve 45w charging speeds. It would only be good for the first %50 the rest cuts down in speed.
The Baseus 45W Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 USB Car Charger For iPhone Xiaomi mi Huawei QC4.0 QC3.0 QC PD 6A Fast Charging Car Phone Charger from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dO0uWdy "usb-c version" seems to be working good. Provides the full 5 Amps just like the one that came in the box with the phone. I even got the baseus red 2m usb-c cables. I'm not sure if its a fluke or if there any good at all.
I Do Not Know if it will be just as good but, I just ordered the cheaper version https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970589225.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.a30b4c4d1oAVXd without the display usb-c version which I won't see for another two months due to shipping. Unless its being shipped by ePacket which only takes a week or two to get the item. Also got the same charger https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33042906407.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d0fTcdC from a different vendor
I did however ordered the car charger originally for the oneplus 7 pro thinking it was going to charge that sucker up very fast but it didn't and i wasn't going to spend over 50 bucks for a car charger
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Edit From My Post Below. As I looked more into this, my wall charger that came with my phone is just a small 25w box EP-TA800 which I don't understand why accubattery says its getting 5,000+ mAh from it but needless to say the baseus car charger below is able to supply the 25w means while my Anker charger doesn't https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Charger...rger&qid=1575374418&smid=AREE309N4XPXI&sr=8-5 . It looks like I need a new cable to make this 45w thing to work, if it even works with baseus. but still better then the pixel 2 xl 16.3W charging speed. But even if one where able to achieve 45w charging speeds. It would only be good for the first %50 the rest cuts down in speed.
The Baseus 45W Quick Charge 4.0 3.0 USB Car Charger For iPhone Xiaomi mi Huawei QC4.0 QC3.0 QC PD 6A Fast Charging Car Phone Charger from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dO0uWdy "usb-c version" seems to be working good. Provides the full 5 Amps just like the one that came in the box with the phone. I even got the baseus red 2m usb-c cables. I'm not sure if its a fluke or if there any good at all.
I Do Not Know if it will be just as good but, I just ordered the cheaper version https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970589225.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.a30b4c4d1oAVXd without the display usb-c version which I won't see for another two months due to shipping. Unless its being shipped by ePacket which only takes a week or two to get the item. Also got the same charger https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33042906407.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d0fTcdC from a different vendor
I did however ordered the car charger originally for the oneplus 7 pro thinking it was going to charge that sucker up very fast but it didn't and i wasn't going to spend over 50 bucks for a car charger
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I actually got it too from ebay and can confirm it works just like the original charger, I think it might be actually charging up to 45w.
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It seems to achieve the 15 / 20 volts, I'll need to be on a 24 volt system. I'll have to wait has my battery on my phone is only 54%
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It seems to achieve the 15 / 20 volts, I'll need to be on a 24 volt system. I'll have to wait has my battery on my phone is only 54%
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The charger said 26.2V, 9.32V and, 2.75A and its able to support 15V at 3A and 20V at 2.25
Supplying 24V to the Baseus car charger, it only supplied 9.32V X 2.75A = 25.63‬Watts which is about the same just using 12V
My current cable only supports PD 2.0 60W, 3 Amps
The 100W cable says it can do PD 2.0 with Gen2 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_52
Not all cables are the same. But i'm calling this as a good 25Watt charger with cable combo just untill it burns out
Its pretty crazy that Samsung chose the latest PD 3.0 variant with PPS, requiring the odd 10V at 4.5A. Clever heat management, but until now I came up empty finding the exact supporting charger other than the Samsung original who also seems to have its challenges. This article is pretty clear https://www.gsmarena.com/dont_just_..._for_the_samsung_galaxy_note10-news-38837.php
Not that I really would want such a fast charger to become my daily driver, fearing added wear on the battery, but for the rare occasion where I really need juice and do not have a powerbank handy, following if the community finds any solution.

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