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I've seen in some reviews and spec sheets on the G4 that it has HDR video capability. But after digging around in the camera's limited options I just don't see it. Is there some way to do this with an alternate camera app?
There is no such thing as HDR for videos yet. The experiment that comes close to this would have been a researcher who used two Canon 5D Mark 2. He shot videos with different exposure on each camera and attempted to combine the videos. It didn't work well.
maybe they can implement a function to alternate exposure between frames, so exposure goes -3, 0, +3, 0, -3, ...
Actually my old 2013 HTC One M7 has HDR video. It takes two different exposure frames, then tries to combine them and stabilize for motion between them. This causes the overall field of view to be cropped a bit. I think some other phones in the past couple years have this feature too.
Wow, interesting. I had assumed HDR video was not possible. I hadn't considered constantly bracketing the exposure using individual frames.
It seems like this would at least partially reduce your effective framerate? Say you have 2 moving items in the shot, one bright, one dark, along with a neutral-brightness background. The background might be correct in 0EV frame 1, dark subject correct in +3EV frame 2, bright subject correct in -3EV frame 3, and so on. But the subjects are moving, the bright subject is somewhat ignored in frame 2, and the dark one ignored in frame 3. So the moving bright/dark items might appear slightly jerky, as they are not properly captured in all 30 or 60 frames captured during that second.
But it's interesting, regardless, that this can be done. With more processing power available in the future, and maybe a higher-framerate camera, plus some fancy image-processing, maybe HDR video will become more practical.
I know I'm a bit late to the party, since I too was researching how to shoot hdr video on the g4, sadly there isn't. But the S6 and S7 both can shoot hdr video, take a look
HDR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dfLFVz6WCU
No HDR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWKSCKDDhNI
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Wow, interesting. I had assumed HDR video was not possible. I hadn't considered constantly bracketing the exposure using individual frames.
It seems like this would at least partially reduce your effective framerate? Say you have 2 moving items in the shot, one bright, one dark, along with a neutral-brightness background. The background might be correct in 0EV frame 1, dark subject correct in +3EV frame 2, bright subject correct in -3EV frame 3, and so on. But the subjects are moving, the bright subject is somewhat ignored in frame 2, and the dark one ignored in frame 3. So the moving bright/dark items might appear slightly jerky, as they are not properly captured in all 30 or 60 frames captured during that second.
But it's interesting, regardless, that this can be done. With more processing power available in the future, and maybe a higher-framerate camera, plus some fancy image-processing, maybe HDR video will become more practical.
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I know I'm a bit late to the party, since I too was researching how to shoot hdr video on the g4, sadly there isn't. But the S6 and S7 both can shoot hdr video, take a look
HDR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dfLFVz6WCU
No HDR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWKSCKDDhNI
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HDR version horror bad.
Oversharpening and over saturated. blury....
4K much better.But OIS not to effective.
Anyway great quality thanks mate!
The HDR to me looks pretty decent given the advantages of boosting the shadows, yeah it's oversharpened and over saturated but other than that, it makes a huge difference. Just wish LG implemented HDR video as well.
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HDR version horror bad.
Oversharpening and over saturated. blury....
4K much better.But OIS not to effective.
Anyway great quality thanks mate!
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Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Samsung Galaxy S7 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I am really dissapointed here ...
4k - probably good I tried it but have no intention to use it - maybe in few years ..
1080 60fps - too much detail lost
1080 30fps - it looks like painting ... terrible - my s4 is doing nicer videos ... or even my iphone 6
720 240fps - well iphone does better
Here's a 4k video taken on my s7 on Friday night of my son racing his Sworkz s104 Evo A final
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Here's a 4k video taken on my s7 on Friday night of my son racing his Sworkz s104 Evo A final
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https://youtu.be/9gQqgtUCxZ8
Here's mine shot in 4k with post-processing added in Sony Vegas Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDiSAoFMiU
Non post-processed version are also available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kiV0O7GvfU
Video from a concert this past weekend.Straight out of the camera.Shot in QHD.Given the conditions I was very impressed with the video and sound quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZaK8hdQt0
I compared the video quality of Samsung Galaxy S7 vs Lg G3. For the same HD video on youtube, LG G3 provide crisp and colourful output, while S7 video is saturated and pixelated. I am disappointed with S7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aldBSkz6UCo
Check this CInematic 4K Video which is filmed with the Galaxy S7
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Video from a concert this past weekend.Straight out of the camera.Shot in QHD.Given the conditions I was very impressed with the video and sound quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZaK8hdQt0
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Video is set private!
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Here's mine shot in 4k with post-processing added in Sony Vegas Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDiSAoFMiU
Non post-processed version are also available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kiV0O7GvfU
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Pretty damn good man !
Hmm.. it's funny to see that those that are disappointed do not share an example, while the enthusiastics do.
This way it's impossible to compare.
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Here's mine shot in 4k with post-processing added in Sony Vegas Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDiSAoFMiU
Non post-processed version are also available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kiV0O7GvfU
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how do you add the cinematic look
I moved several weeks ago from iphone6+ to S7.
Yesterday I attended a live music show and recording on S7 were horrible (distorted) compared to previous iphone 5 and 6 experience I had.
Here are 2 from yesterday that are bad
https://youtu.be/YZG2LqMMraM
https://youtu.be/Kba-CLtZJlE
and 2 good with 5 and 6
https://youtu.be/LyrlLPP2zpE
https://youtu.be/fiJofpOj9ko
video issue
s3icc0 said:
I am really dissapointed here ...
4k - probably good I tried it but have no intention to use it - maybe in few years ..
1080 60fps - too much detail lost
1080 30fps - it looks like painting ... terrible - my s4 is doing nicer videos ... or even my iphone 6
720 240fps - well iphone does better
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My video doen't work at all, I have got phone and tablet galaxy, all the time some bugs coming up
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My video doen't work at all, I have got phone and tablet galaxy, all the time some bugs coming up
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What not working?
4k at night: https://youtu.be/EW8qM1ggYB8
240fps at day: https://youtu.be/0Q5HAggaDwg
For me it is much better then lg g3 does, i never try iphone
While the sharpening look really bad in photos, Galaxy S7's video quality is superb.
Hello. Video stabilization doesn't work at all. Even if I use HD with the setting checked...
The video shakes at every step I make.
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Still sound is awful shooting concerts, iphone is superb in this feature... so annoying
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Hello. Video stabilization doesn't work at all. Even if I use HD with the setting checked...
The video shakes at every step I make.
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I read somewhere that the video stabilization option in the menu is for electronic image stabilization. Supposedly OIS is always on and doesn't react the same with EIS enabled.. Try shooting a video with that box unchecked and see if it's any better
my thoughts on S7 video recording
Over the last 2+ years, I had an S5+ (G901F). The one with SD805 and the IMX240 (same sensor powering Note 4). Recently, due to an accident which resulted in destroying my S5+, I bought an S7 (Exynos version...and quite possibly an ISOcell sensor or whatever Sammy calls it these days) I don't think I ve got the IMX260 powering my unit, so I can't make any comments regarding the hardware...
OS wise - it was 4.4.4 and 6.0.1 on my S5+ and Android N (pre-installed) on my S7.
Since I am a hardcore video shooter with my phone, I can share my impressions of the S7. In short, I was rather disappointed.
Video rec modes remain the same for both i.e. 4K, 1080p 30/60, 720p...don't care
I was expecting similar output (if not better) from my S7 compared to my S5+. But no. After triple-checking on the camera/video/photo settings, I was still recording videos where compression artifacts are clearly visible. Usually in darker areas (but not always the case) - sometimes even in areas that you d believe the camera is focusing on. I m not saying that this is a sensor issue, but rather more of a post-processing / compression issue. If I freeze the video at certain parts, I can see in a frame, compression artifacts such as the ones you d get from a highly-compressed JPEG. Which makes me wonder why didn't I see any of those whilst I was checking on the video quality produced by the S7, compared to other flagship models.
I am not sure if that quality drop between the two flagships is justified by the fact Samsung decided to move from 16MP -> 12MP, or the software i.e. Nougat vs Marshmallow (...or both). For all I know, frame quality under video recording, has significantly dropped in the S7, compared to the much older S5+. (don't know what the case was for S6, never actually tested it...) Just to clarify - this is definately not a stabilization issue (phone position is fixed whilst shooting).
The good parts - obviously - the S7 is very good under low light conditions (both video rec and photo shoting). Focus and photo shooting is amazingly fast. Two areas that it clearly smokes the S5+ as far as the camera is concerned. But that's about it really. And I d rather have the 'slower' S5+, rather than the heavily grained videos the S7 produces. Being able to shot better in the dark is always a bonus, but not so important to me. I m usually shooting [email protected] Sometimes 4K, but under good light only (due to lack of HDR whilst at 2160p). [email protected] video shooting quality seems like a 'tie' between the S7 / S5+. Both very smooth and similar amount of details preserved in the video. But yet again, I m not shooting high-speed moving objects so as to justify shooting at 60fps. But I m expecting better quality per-frame whilst at 30fps. And at 30fps, the S5+ produces better results.
Also, the video trimmer under S7/Nougat seems to lack the Rotate feature. Don't know if it was moved under the Movie Maker app (which I haven't yet downloaded). Video processing seems to be much slower now. Trimming under 4.4.4 was at least twice as fast compared to what it is now! I am really curious if trimming under more recent versions of Android actually re-compresses the output file. If that's the case, that would be discraseful to say the least...can anyone confirm this? I will at some point test this myself and post the results.
Just to clarify. I m not saying that recorded videos using the S7 are bad - I m saying that it lacks the quality per-frame of the ones shot by the S5. I very rarely recall seeing compression artifacts in videos captured by my older S5+ and that is why is pretty obvious to me now. And I can't explain it. If it's not a sensor issue, could it be that the compression ratio has been increased? If that's the case - it's a good thing - as it could be fixed in a later release. Has anyone witnessed video quality degredation from Marshmallow ->> Nougat?
Please share your thoughts.
Still not sure what is the best option, hdr+ enhanced definitely takes the longest to process but which do you guy's think is the best image?
Edit, have no idea why xda has rotated the 1st image as all three were taken in portrait mode, (not portrait camera mode)
I did some test and it seems that hdr+ enhanced protect the highlights more,so higher dynamic range.
Seem like google hdr and normal hdr combined.
Yeah it does seem like that, the clouds don't look right with no hdr at all, but with hdr+ hdr enhanced they look better, makes me wonder if this camera would have got as high reviews if it wasn't for Google's hdr modes ?
I think the software what stand here,i see lot of phones with same camera sensor but they got different quality because of the software.
What makes me disappointed about sony's phones is the bad software they use for their cameras, and the fact that most of our phones have sony's sensors.
So the software is a game changer and google has the perfect example.
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I think the software what stand here,i see lot of phones with same camera sensor but they got different quality because of the software.
What makes me disappointed about sony's phones is the bad software they use for their cameras, and the fact that most of our phones have sony's sensors.
So the software is a game changer and google has the perfect example.
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Yes it does seem true, most of the latest sensor's seem to be very similar, Google's software is the best and the pixel 1 and 2 are very good examples of it, without hdr doesn't look much different to my s8+ to be honest.
Advantages of XA2 Ultra over XZ Premium:
- Substantially larger screen
- Most likely much better battery life
- Battery friendly CPU consuming less power than Snapdragon 835 yet not far behind with regards to real life performance
- Possibly better camera sensor and image processing
- Far better front selfie camera with flash
Advantages of XZ Premium over XA2 Ultra:
- Slightly better CPU although more power consumption
- 4K Screen with far higher PPI
- Side finger print sensor more practical than rear
What do others think? I think the XA2 is a superior and excellent super mid ranger having an excellent balance between everything. I think the XZ Premium having a small 5.5'' screen is not large enough for 4k content and see it is wasted. 1080P for a 5.5'' display is enough.
Also, I rarely view 4k content since most movies are still only 1080P! Why have a 4k screen when it's barely used and 5.5'' is too small for 4k content.
Remember, this is simply my opinion and I'm not saying I'm right. I would love to hear what others think. What are your opinions for the upcoming XA2 Ultra compared to our XZ Premium?
I am dying for a full review on the XA2 Ultra and have a feeling it's gonna be one of the best, if not the best upcoming super mid ranger phones for a very affordable price. Just like it's predecessor, the XA1, it just may have a superior screen, high brightness, high contrast, decent enough PPI, hopefully an improved and tuned AF system with better images processing, less image noise and sharper corners, etc.
"Slightly better CPU" is that a joke?
This must be a joke lol XZ Premium sh*ts over the XA2 Ultra still
According to benchmarks the Snapdragon 630 was not far behind the 835 in certain aspects, something I missed?
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According to benchmarks the Snapdragon 630 was not far behind the 835 in certain aspects, something I missed?
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"Not far behind" it's over 100k behind...
LukeyWolf said:
"Not far behind" it's over 100k behind...
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Sorry, my mistake, I was referring to the 660 and not the 630.
The XA2 (ultra) uses a snapdragon 630,not a 660. According to this website it has roughly 60% the power of the 835.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-630-SoC.248254.0.html
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The XA2 (ultra) uses a snapdragon 630,not a 660. According to this website it has roughly 60% the power of the 835.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-630-SoC.248254.0.html
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Not bad having 60% of the power. I however did make a mistake by referring to the 660 and not the 630, a big fail by me.
That said, I am looking forward to reading a full review on the XA2 Ultra once officially released.
At least the phone is running Oreo out the box so should perform at it's best.
Personally i wouldn't upgrade from the XZ premium to any current/confirmed phone in the market.
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Personally i wouldn't upgrade from the XZ premium to any current/confirmed phone in the market.
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I know what you mean. Personally I'm very happy with my XZ Premium, only let down I WISH it was slightly bigger. Amazing super sharp 4k screen but such a small 5.5" only. I really hope the XZ Premium replacement will be around 6'' in size which would make 4k an even better experience.
All other LG/Samsung/HTC & Apple flagship all 6'' 2k screen yet we have a smaller bet better screen, this is my frustration with XZ Premium.
Main thing I like about the XA2 Ultra is the larger 6'' screen. Hopefully later on this year we will see a 5.7-6'' screen on the XZ Premium.
kanej2006 said:
Advantages of XA2 Ultra over XZ Premium:
- Substantially larger screen
- Most likely much better battery life
- Battery friendly CPU consuming less power than Snapdragon 835 yet not far behind with regards to real life performance
- Possibly better camera sensor and image processing
- Far better front selfie camera with flash
Advantages of XZ Premium over XA2 Ultra:
- Slightly better CPU although more power consumption
- 4K Screen with far higher PPI
- Side finger print sensor more practical than rear
What do others think? I think the XA2 is a superior and excellent super mid ranger having an excellent balance between everything. I think the XZ Premium having a small 5.5'' screen is not large enough for 4k content and see it is wasted. 1080P for a 5.5'' display is enough.
Also, I rarely view 4k content since most movies are still only 1080P! Why have a 4k screen when it's barely used and 5.5'' is too small for 4k content.
Remember, this is simply my opinion and I'm not saying I'm right. I would love to hear what others think. What are your opinions for the upcoming XA2 Ultra compared to our XZ Premium?
I am dying for a full review on the XA2 Ultra and have a feeling it's gonna be one of the best, if not the best upcoming super mid ranger phones for a very affordable price. Just like it's predecessor, the XA1, it just may have a superior screen, high brightness, high contrast, decent enough PPI, hopefully an improved and tuned AF system with better images processing, less image noise and sharper corners, etc.
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you are joking right?!
the XZP is a high end phone and the XA2 is a mid range phone dude, there is alot of advantages over the XA2
1. 4K HDR screen.
2. 3D scanner.
3. laser sensor.
4. much faster CPU.
5. more powerful GPU.
6. capable of decoding (playing) a high bit rate videos like 70Mbps and over (HDR content).
7. capable of capturing a 960fps.
plus theres no any advantages in the images processing or the contrast, cuz its the same since the release of the Z2, like X-Reality and the Triluminos Tech, the only different is the HDR screen, there might be a different in the brightness but the XZP has a decent brightness level.
as for the 5.5 screen that is not enough for the the 4K res, well it depends on your eye some people can tell the different and some cant, for me i can see the different between 4k and FHD, I've my XZP side by side with my friend's Note 8 2K 6.2 inchs screen, and i have noticed a slight different in the details, the note 8 had a better black level though, colors and the sharpness goes for the XZP, I also put it against a galaxy C7 a 1080p 5.7 inchs display, the details where noticeable.
Abdullah Zahawy said:
you are joking right?!
the XZP is a high end phone and the XA2 is a mid range phone dude, there is alot of advantages over the XA2
1. 4K HDR screen.
2. 3D scanner.
3. laser sensor.
4. much faster CPU.
5. more powerful GPU.
6. capable of decoding (playing) a high bit rate videos like 70Mbps and over (HDR content).
7. capable of capturing a 960fps.
plus theres no any advantages in the images processing or the contrast, cuz its the same since the release of the Z2, like X-Reality and the Triluminos Tech, the only different is the HDR screen, there might be a different in the brightness but the XZP has a decent brightness level.
as for the 5.5 screen that is not enough for the the 4K res, well it depends on your eye some people can tell the different and some cant, for me i can see the different between 4k and FHD, My XZP side by side with my friend's Note 8 2K 6.2 inchs screen, and i have noticed a slight different in the details, the note 8 had a better black level though, colors and the sharpness goes for the XZP, I also put it against a galaxy C7 a 1080p 5.7 inchs displa, the details where noticeable.
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But having 4k on a 5.5'' screen is a waste. Sony should have made the phone around 6'' to make better use of 4k. Most content is also only 1080P and non HDR so this is also wasted and hardly ever used...
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But having 4k on a 5.5'' screen is a waste. Sony should have made the phone around 6'' to make better use of 4k. Most content is also only 1080P and non HDR so this is also wasted and hardly ever used...
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I have to agree its a little waste, but there's a new High end Xperia is coming in February this year, rumors say it will have a top notch specs like 5.7 4k oled HDR screen, SD 845, 6gb of ram...etc
Abdullah Zahawy said:
I have to agree it a little waste, but there's a new High end Xperia is coming in February this year, rumors say it will have a top notch specs like 5.7 4k oled HDR screen, SD 845, 6gb of ram...etc
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I really hope this rumour is true, I did see it and screen size will be between 5.7-6'' fingers crossed.
kanej2006 said:
Sorry, my mistake, I was referring to the 660 and not the 630.
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That's ok, the 630 is still good for everyday users
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That's ok, the 630 is still good for everyday users
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Yeah, and at least better than Mediatek SOC.
Sony should announce very soon, if not later on this month then perhaps early next month the XZ Premium replacement. Hopefully we'll get some legitimate pictures and more specific specifications.
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I really hope this rumour is true, I did see it and screen size will be between 5.7-6'' fingers crossed.
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There's gonna be no headphone jack on the new flagship, if that's something you care for
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But having 4k on a 5.5'' screen is a waste. Sony should have made the phone around 6'' to make better use of 4k. Most content is also only 1080P and non HDR so this is also wasted and hardly ever used...
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I agree with the 6" screen part, but for resolution are you serious? There isn't really a lack of 4K content anymore so if you are watching 1080P SDR that's your fault.
Abdullah Zahawy said:
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This sounds too good to be true, not buying it until it's announced. Sony has a history of doing what they want instead of what makes sense. Guess we'll find out in about a month though.
Not happy with the possibility of no headphone jack. But I suppose it makes it easier to make the phone more waterproof...one less hole to worry about.
If they supply us with a dongle...can that cost them less than just putting in the jack???
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There's gonna be no headphone jack on the new flagship, if that's something you care for
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I did read that. Very strange all the manufacturers are copying each other and ditching the headphone jack. Just means another adapter just to listen to music.
What I fear is what will they get rid of next. Memory card slot??
There was a recent poll on GSMArena with regards to the removal of the jack connection and 84% of users were against it!
https://www.gsmarena.com/sunday_debate_is_removing_the_headphone_jack_the_way_forward-news-29229.php
https://www.poll-maker.com/results2008393xF6234169-51#tab-2
Any word on the s9+ model recording HDR 10 bit color space at 4K 24fps?
24fps = pleb framerate
Expect [email protected], possibly with 10-bit. Both the Snapdragon 845 and Exynos 9810 support 10-bit [email protected] (120fps for the Exynos), but it's up to Samsung to enable it, and it's also up to the camera sensor to support it.
Since there is no consumer screen on the market that fully supports 10bit colors i highly doubt that well be able to record in 10bit...
the hdr thing nowadays is a big marketing thing, the colors are mostly achieved by high brightness and boostes saturation/contrast instead of true 10bit colors
at my uni we had a screen that supported nearly 10bit, it costs 1000€ per inch... i can tell you there is a huge difference between samsung hpone screens and a 30.000€ hdr screen
LG v30 records 10 bit color space.
LG v30 records 10 bit color space. It is true. If s9 does not record 10 bit color space and hdr then it is what it is not because screens cant support it or anything else...it would be because they choose not to.
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Since the are is no consumer screen on the market that fully supports 10bit colors i highly doubt that well be able to record in 10bit...
the hdr thing nowadays is a big marketing thing, the colors are mostly achieved by high brightness and boostes saturation/contrast instead of true 10bit colors
at my uni we had a screen that supported nearly 10bit, it costs 1000€ per inch... i can tell you there is a huge difference between samsung hpone screens and a 30.000€ hdr screen
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really? i Like the HDR on S8+
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really? i Like the HDR on S8+
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I know, I am not saying samsung and other phones have bad screens, but calling the "high brightness and overly saturated mode" hdr is just marketing...
Once you read about what UHD means, you will understand that we are years from true UHD.
Also HDR has so many requirements that are not matched in today's screens.
Anyway: the "HDR" mode on our phones makes the best of our screens. 10bit colors is not something that one can be achieved easily, the screens might be able to display more than 8bit but it highly depends on the manufacturer and it is not close to 10bit (btw 10bit color depth for each color: red green and blue means 4 times as many colors... Don't let the "2bit difference" fool you.)
Since Samsung makes best screens, I think they are the way to go. But don't let them fool you guys, in 5 years we will laugh about what we called HDR in 2018.
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I know, I am not saying samsung and other phones have bad screens, but calling the "high brightness and overly saturated mode" hdr is just marketing...
Once you read about what UHD means, you will understand that we are years from true UHD.
Also HDR has so many requirements that are not matched in today's screens.
Anyway: the "HDR" mode on our phones makes the best of our screens. 10bit colors is not something that one can be achieved easily, the screens might be able to display more than 8bit but it highly depends on the manufacturer and it is not close to 10bit (btw 10bit color depth for each color: red green and blue means 4 times as many colors... Don't let the "2bit difference" fool you.)
Since Samsung makes best screens, I think they are the way to go. But don't let them fool you guys, in 5 years we will laugh about what we called HDR in 2018.
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i now its just marketing with all these hdr tv's... and i know uhd is no real UHD.
hm okay i want buy an TV but no idea which one.. all are fake hdr and doenst have a 10bit panel.. Poor customers who get fooled
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i now its just marketing with all these hdr tv's... and i know uhd is no real UHD.
hm okay i want buy an TV but no idea which one.. all are fake hdr and doenst have a 10bit panel.. Poor customers who get fooled
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Whoa, there guys. Remember that bit depth and color space are different things, and while they overlap bit depth is not how screens and media are calibrated. Also, wide color gamut (WCG) and HDR are COMPLETELY different things; some refer to WCG as "HDR color", and HDR as "HDR brightness" which is why there is so much confusion. Don't cross your streams when talking about these things.
Most PANELS are aimed at SRGB (most phones, 1080p TVs and computer monitors) or DCI-P3 (high-end phones, OLED/Quantum Dot TVs, professional montors). However, most IMAGE PROCESSORS (GPUs, TV processors, monitor drivers) push out whatever the panel is capable of if configured properly. That means even your basic entry-level TVs (say, a Vizio E-series) that is capable of displaying ~80% of DCI-P3 (or 55% of rec.2020/full 10-bit) is still going to be FAR better than your best 1080p TV, gaming monitor or non-flagship phone that is only capable of 65% DCI-P3 or 50% of 10-bit (remember than 10 bit is BILLIONS of colors and 5% of a billion is 50 MILLION more colors). That extra color depth is used by the image processor to do smoother color gradients so every bit helps. Also remember that even if your camera is capable of full 10-bit (hint: it almost certainly isn't), you are going to be mastering that content on a screen that is only capable of displaying less than 80% of the colors the images contain. in fact, most 4k BD movies (the best quality content generally available) are mastered to rec.709 (effectively the same bit depth as DCI-P3) so even if your TV could do more than 80% of 10-bit, it would just end up not using the extra color information or using an algorithm to upscale it.