Verizon phone in france - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Hi, I wanted to know if i buy a verizon phone from us from bestbuy, will it work in france with orange, or is there any possibilities to change carrier options etc.
Thanks a lot

digamman said:
Hi, I wanted to know if i buy a verizon phone from us from bestbuy, will it work in france with orange, or is there any possibilities to change carrier options etc.
Thanks a lot
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France use GSM, Verizon uses CDMA. If the Verizon phone has only CDMA it won't work.

Thanks for the quick reply, if i try to buy it and flash it with a stock pixel 2xl img not the verizon, will it work as an unlocked phone ?

The Verizon phone is a Globally unlocked Sim phone. It will work on GSM networks, only the bootloader is locked. Meaning you cannot flash it with other ROMS or the non Verizon factory image.

That mean that if I unlock the bootloader it will be easy to flash with the stock rom sound good thanks a lot

digamman said:
That mean that if I unlock the bootloader it will be easy to flash with the stock rom sound good thanks a lot
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To my knowledge Verizon Pixel 2 XL has a bootloader that can't be unlock... so I would say that is not a good choice!

It will work, but I'm not sure if it will support all of the bands used in France if you're buying in the US. You will need to check the bands your carrier users with the supported bands of the phone.
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Orange fr band are GSM 900 1800 umts 2100 900 and LTE 2600 800 2100
Pixel support :
NETWORK Technology
GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CDMA 800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300), 32(1500), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100)
So everything will work for the network, the only thing i care is that if i put my sim in i hope that it will simply connect to orange

terre08 said:
France use GSM, Verizon uses CDMA. If the Verizon phone has only CDMA it won't work.
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digamman said:
Orange fr band are GSM 900 1800 umts 2100 900 and LTE 2600 800 2100
Pixel support :
NETWORK Technology
GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CDMA 800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300), 32(1500), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100)
So everything will work for the network, the only thing i care is that if i put my sim in i hope that it will simply connect to orange
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I don't think it will unfortunately because the radio ROM is not the same as terre08 wrote (CDMA and not GSM as in France) and you won't be able to change it because the bootloader of the Verizon Pixel 2 XL is lock...
I live in France and use the Pixel 2 XL Google version with Free Mobile without issue. I imported it from the UK Google Store through Forward2me service.
Where do you live at the moment, in USA? Why the Verizon version and not the US Google Store version?

Hum in fact i've just see that i can't take with the verizon my mistake :/ i was trying to fin an opportunity to get the pixel 2 XL and pay it like in 4 times (can't be done on google store ) but with verizon it's a plan with a mobile contract so it will not work.
i'm in france also cause i'm french

digamman said:
Hum in fact i've just see that i can't take with the verizon my mistake :/ i was trying to fin an opportunity to get the pixel 2 XL and pay it like in 4 times (can't be done on google store ) but with verizon it's a plan with a mobile contract so it will not work.
i'm in france also cause i'm french
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You could have been french traveling to USA
Have a look to the UK version, no problem for me, received it in 2 days (1 day from Google to forward2me + 1 day from forward2me to my address in France with DHL delivery)

digamman said:
Hi, I wanted to know if i buy a verizon phone from us from bestbuy, will it work in france with orange, or is there any possibilities to change carrier options etc.
Thanks a lot
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Double check the LTE band frequencies that orange uses to make sure you get the best experience USA distributed phones will not have every frequency. In theory yes it's unlocked but might not be all bands of LTE that orange offers

DocteurN said:
You could have been french traveling to USA
Have a look to the UK version, no problem for me, received it in 2 days (1 day from Google to forward2me + 1 day from forward2me to my address in France with DHL delivery)
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I'm thinking of doing the same, but it's very expensive in the UK.
180€ more than the US version. But of course then there is the issue of the warranty.

Corduroy-21 said:
I'm thinking of doing the same, but it's very expensive in the UK.
180€ more than the US version. But of course then there is the issue of the warranty.
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The difference is lower, more around 70-80€
There is VAT on the US Google Store that is not in the $849. The PIXEL 2 XL really costs $929. And the deliver fees from US are more expensive that in UK not to mention the customs taxes that you could pay...

DocteurN said:
I don't think it will unfortunately because the radio ROM is not the same as terre08 wrote (CDMA and not GSM as in France) and you won't be able to change it because the bootloader of the Verizon Pixel 2 XL is lock...
I live in France and use the Pixel 2 XL Google version with Free Mobile without issue. I imported it from the UK Google Store through Forward2me service.
Where do you live at the moment, in USA? Why the Verizon version and not the US Google Store version?
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Every phone Verizon had sold for at least the last 2-3 years has been a GSM capable works phone. Given the information posted for carrier and phone bands, there shouldn't be any issues.
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imnuts said:
Every phone Verizon had sold for at least the last 2-3 years has been a GSM capable works phone. Given the information posted for carrier and phone bands, there shouldn't be any issues.
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Good to know, I wasn't aware of that!
I guess it's the same hardware both GSM/CDMA compatible but with a different Radio ROM...

DocteurN said:
Good to know, I wasn't aware of that!
I guess it's the same hardware both GSM/CDMA compatible but with a different Radio ROM...
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There isn't even much difference in the radio firmware, just minor changes to make it work better for Verizon's specific bands. There is very little different between the US Google store model and the one sold by Verizon.
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DocteurN said:
The difference is lower, more around 70-80€
There is VAT on the US Google Store that is not in the $849. The PIXEL 2 XL really costs $929. And the deliver fees from US are more expensive that in UK not to mention the customs taxes that you could pay...
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Yeah I forgot the VAT, but I won't be paying any customs or shipping. A friend of mine would bring it before X-mas. It's more than 100€ anyhow.
The biggest problem would be the warranty though.

Corduroy-21 said:
Yeah I forgot the VAT, but I won't be paying any customs or shipping. A friend of mine would bring it before X-mas. It's more than 100€ anyhow.
The biggest problem would be the warranty though.
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Yes you're right that why I chose UK Google Store

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[Q] Use T-Mobile Samsung S4 on AT&T

I plan to buy the T-Mobile Galaxy S4. Worried that I may not be happy with T-Mobile's coverage is it possible to use it on AT&T's network? If so will it be able to pick up all bands?
Yes
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rp56 said:
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So, does the S4 follow the S3? Will a T-Mobile S4 work on all other carriers in the US and Canada, but, just not have LTE speeds (Only HSPA+)?
Thanks!
According to [1] the t-mobile version of the S4 has the following LTE bands: 1/2/4/5/7/17, which correspond to 2100 1900 1700 850 2600 700MHz.
- Bands 1 and 4 are clear, as those are the main t-mobile LTE bands.
- Metro PCS uses band 2, so given the pending merger to t-mobile, this makes sense as well.
- Band 17 is used by AT&T, which would hopefully mean a T-Mobile Galaxy S4 can be fully used on AT&T including LTE.
- Band 7, is commonly used around the world, including Canada, some countries in South America and Asia and many countries in Europe. So this should allow for using the device in many countries abroad e.g. through roaming, or buying a pre-paid sim when overseas on business or holidays.
But why did they include Band 5? According to wikipedia [2] that band is only used by very few carriers around the world. Would it have not made more sense to include e.g. Band 3 (1800MHz), which is commonly used for LTE in Europe and Asia, including most of the European T-Mobile networks. That would have allowed for much broader roaming.
Furthermore, can someone confirm that the information on the webpage is correct and particularly that T-mobiles S4 really has band 7 (2600MHz) included?
[1] www samsung com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZWATMB-specs
[2] en wikipedia org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
As I am not allowed to post links on this forum, I had to break the urls up this way
knowthenazz said:
So, does the S4 follow the S3? Will a T-Mobile S4 work on all other carriers in the US and Canada, but, just not have LTE speeds (Only HSPA+)?
Thanks!
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Theoretically, yes, it should work on AT&T fine as the device does support all of AT&T's bands, including their LTE bands. Of course it needs to be SIM unlocked in order for you to be able to put an AT&T SIM in it though.
apmon said:
According to [1] the t-mobile version of the S4 has the following LTE bands: 1/2/4/5/7/17, which correspond to 2100 1900 1700 850 2600 700MHz.
- Bands 1 and 4 are clear, as those are the main t-mobile LTE bands.
- Metro PCS uses band 2, so given the pending merger to t-mobile, this makes sense as well.
- Band 17 is used by AT&T, which would hopefully mean a T-Mobile Galaxy S4 can be fully used on AT&T including LTE.
- Band 7, is commonly used around the world, including Canada, some countries in South America and Asia and many countries in Europe. So this should allow for using the device in many countries abroad e.g. through roaming, or buying a pre-paid sim when overseas on business or holidays.
But why did they include Band 5? According to wikipedia [2] that band is only used by very few carriers around the world. Would it have not made more sense to include e.g. Band 3 (1800MHz), which is commonly used for LTE in Europe and Asia, including most of the European T-Mobile networks. That would have allowed for much broader roaming.
Furthermore, can someone confirm that the information on the webpage is correct and particularly that T-mobiles S4 really has band 7 (2600MHz) included?
[1] www samsung com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZWATMB-specs
[2] en wikipedia org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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2600 mhz band and is for T-Mobile in European Union
To your question why. .....if they did include this to American version S4 then there will not be difference to international S4 LTE version. ....There is two different devices 9500&9505...it's a market democracy that separate this market for known reason. ....otherwise ....There is going to be way some time on road to flash different modem to give you other bands. ....flashing modem will not make hardware frequency to make changed. ...
Just follow XDA there is a lot of smart people out there that will make them
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samprocat said:
2600 mhz band and is for T-Mobile in European Union
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T-mobile mostly uses the 1800Mhz band in Europe (UK, Germany, Croatia, Hungary, Netherlands and Czech Republic) although it does have some licenses for the 2600MHz band as well. 2600MHz is heavily used by other carriers in Europe though, which is why I was interested to get a confirmation that the t-mobile US version of the Galaxy S4 really does have that band included, as I will likely want to use it in Europe too.
apmon said:
T-mobile mostly uses the 1800Mhz band in Europe (UK, Germany, Croatia, Hungary, Netherlands and Czech Republic) although it does have some licenses for the 2600MHz band as well. 2600MHz is heavily used by other carriers in Europe though, which is why I was interested to get a confirmation that the t-mobile US version of the Galaxy S4 really does have that band included, as I will likely want to use it in Europe too.
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If you go to US tmobile website and go to specification you will see exactly what you looking. ...just remember there is also important to look for given band on frequency you will operate in Europe. ..my note II Was running fine on A1 Austria Tmobile Orange and tele ring company. ...When I was in Europe. ...in Australia I was not capable running LTE be cause I do have 2600 MHZ frequency just no band for Australia. ....
There it pulled T-Mobile
Bands and frequency
HSPA+ Bands: I (UMTS 2100), II (1900), IV (1700/2100/AWS), V (850)LTE Bands: Band 1 (2100), 2 (1900), 4 (1700/2100), 5(850), 7 (2600) & 17GSM Bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
So if you looking for carrier that operating on 1800 it will support only GSM .......GPRS data
On other frequency you should pick high speeds data
This are A&TT Baseband and frequency from Samsung site
Frequencies and Data Type: LTE: Bands 1/4/7/17; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz*
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A&TT site
Wireless Technology
4G-LTE*Band 4 and 174G*HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul3G - UMTS*850/1900/2100MHzGSM/GPRS/EDGE*850/900/1800/1900MHz
samprocat said:
If you go to US tmobile website and go to specification you will see exactly what you looking. ...
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Ah, looks like they have updated their page to include more details now. When I looked a couple of hours ago it still only said "LTE compatible" with no indication of the exact frequency and bands it supports.
As the specs on t-mobile.com and samsung's us page now match in claiming it does have support for band 7, I'll assume it actually does. But given that the AT&T page still claims the S4 has FM radio and the supported LTE frequencies of the AT&T spec page don't match the Samsungs's spec page, it seems even the "official" specs can't always be trusted.
Thanks
Here is what the Canadian versions use:
GSM Bands:850/900/1800/1900
HSPA+/HSPA Bands:850/1900/2100
LTE Bands:2100/2600
So the T-mobile version should work no problem in Canada if we end up with a bootloader locked version up here.
Well, it looks like the Tmobile version of the S4 may be the one to get for a lot of us on ATT and in Canada since it has the right bands and the bootloader isn't locked. It just needs to be sim unlocked.
i am very interested in this option. I guess what we need is some confirmation from folks in the field/first hand experience.
I guess we need to wait for someone to sim unlock and test the LTE?
mircury said:
Well, it looks like the Tmobile version of the S4 may be the one to get for a lot of us on ATT and in Canada since it has the right bands and the bootloader isn't locked. It just needs to be sim unlocked.
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Anyone tried the menu unlock for the sim like the Note 2 had?
tietherope said:
Here is what the Canadian versions use:
GSM Bands:850/900/1800/1900
HSPA+/HSPA Bands:850/1900/2100
LTE Bands:2100/2600
So the T-mobile version should work no problem in Canada if we end up with a bootloader locked version up here.
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Hi,
Is this for all Canadian versions (The Big 3 and Wind/Mobilicty)?
Thanks!
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mircury said:
Well, it looks like the Tmobile version of the S4 may be the one to get for a lot of us on ATT and in Canada since it has the right bands and the bootloader isn't locked. It just needs to be sim unlocked.
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Is the Canadian version confirmed to be SIM locked (the same as AT&T)?
Thanks!
Is the sim on the T=mobile version a micro? AT&T uses full size sims. Of course, getting a micro-sim from AT&T or using a sim cutter should work, but it is still a consideration. It also needs to be determined if the radio (software baseband) of the T-Mobile S4 takes advantage of the Hardware frequencies the phone supports. In other words, will it be optimized for AT&T networks.
The next important question is - how do you SIM UNLOCK the T-mobile S4?
If T-Mobile doesn't give you the unlock code, then this is moot.
knowthenazz said:
Hi,
Is this for all Canadian versions (The Big 3 and Wind/Mobilicty)?
Thanks!
The big 3 yes. Wind/Mobilicity, no clue but I'll check when I wake up and get to work in about 7 hours.
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Is the Canadian version confirmed to be SIM locked (the same as AT&T)?
Thanks!
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SIM locked it would be as always. Bootloader locked no one knows yet. SIM unlock on previous Galaxy devices has been done for free, or for a minimal cost.
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lanwarrior said:
The next important question is - how do you SIM UNLOCK the T-mobile S4?
If T-Mobile doesn't give you the unlock code, then this is moot.
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Order it from Negri Electronics and it comes unlocked, or order an unlock code online somewhere.
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tietherope said:
Order it from Negri Electronics and it comes unlocked, or order an unlock code online somewhere.
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I want to buy it from a US Carrier be use it comes with US Warranty. I bought Intl Note before and went dead on me...no warranty of course. I know this is rare, but having a dead $600 phone once is enough for me
Anyways, if Tmo won't provide the SIM unlock code (AT&T does), then there's no point buying it from Tmo because the phone is always locked to their network.
I would have bought the phone from AT&T, but the bootloader is locked.
lanwarrior said:
I want to buy it from a US Carrier be use it comes with US Warranty. I bought Intl Note before and went dead on me...no warranty of course. I know this is rare, but having a dead $600 phone once is enough for me
Anyways, if Tmo won't provide the SIM unlock code (AT&T does), then there's no point buying it from Tmo because the phone is always locked to their network.
I would have bought the phone from AT&T, but the bootloader is locked.
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Ouch, that's understandable for sure. I've been lucky that my international Galaxy S I-III are all still running well.
Did you buy it from an online store that claims to have a warranty or eBay or similar?
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I bought the Note 1 from Amazon - the seller was selling it through Amazon Prime. When I searched for the International Note, none that I found (eBay, Amazon, etc.) offer a 1-year warranty with Samsung USA.
Interestingly, I used to buy the International version of Nokia phones (remember those good ol day?) and Nokia USA WILL honor the warranty (I have to ship it to Melbourne, FL).
I wish Samsung USA will do the same or have a local Samsung store, like Sony Store so I can buy the phone full price from them and have full warranty. Heck, even Amazon and NewEgg are selling the Xperia ZL unlocked with US warranty! Right now my options are limited (AT&T have locked bootloader, T-Mobile SIM locked, I don't want CDMA phones).

HTC 10 International Version with AT&T (M10H)

Will it work with the LTE bands?
The seller on eBay say's it fully works with AT&T and T-Mobile?
HTC 10h (International version) WILL NOT work on US LTE bands
If you go to this page: htc. com / uk / smartphones / htc-10
scroll to the bottom where the specs are and look under "Network" you will see the differences between the radio bands supported by the International/Asia and the America versions of the phone. The International version DOES NOT support all of the 4G LTE bands used by ATT in the US.
This page shows the LTE bands used in the US by major carriers. phonearena. com / news / Cheat-sheet-which-4G-LTE-bands-do-AT-T-Verizon-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
LTE band 5 is on both models of the phone, and band 5 is used in some very limited areas of the US, (but not enough to make it worth having a regional only phone at this cost, and the newest LTE uses dual-bands so that technology wouldn't work for you either).
If you live in the US, you absolutely want the US model of this phone if you expect 4G LTE and newer technologies to work for you over a wide area.
Hope this helps someone... I got suckering into ordering an International version off Amazon and it would not work on AT&T 4G LTE in my area (band 2).
Better to order the US version directly from HTC.
Does the opposite work? I mean, does the US version work in Europe or not?
I'm asking because the color I want is only available in the US and I live in Europe.
Eparbal said:
Does the opposite work? I mean, does the US version work in Europe or not?
I'm asking because the color I want is only available in the US and I live in Europe.
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You should check which LTE bands your European carrier is using. Just google it "What LTE band does [your carrier] use in [your country/city]."
The US version supports all LTE bands except 8 (Saudi Arabia) and 32 (no idea where that's used..). en. wikipedia. org / wiki / List_of_LTE_networks
Same Problem
Eparbal said:
Does the opposite work? I mean, does the US version work in Europe or not?
I'm asking because the color I want is only available in the US and I live in Europe.
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Hello, I have the same problem...How you solved it?
If you load the US unlocked on the international phone, you will pickup some LTE bands. I seem to be able to pickup 4/12, but not 2 with Tmobile
meats said:
If you load the US unlocked on the international phone, you will pickup some LTE bands. I seem to be able to pickup 4/12, but not 2 with Tmobile
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Hi I'd like to know if the US unlocked version of the HTC 10 (that you can order by the official HTC USA site) works on the Italian networks: band 3(1800MHz), 7(2600MHz), 20(800MHz);
so if I buy this phone and I do it to ship from America I can use it in Italy with any networks problem or restriction.
I'm very interested to know this, thank you.
Filippo95 said:
Hi I'd like to know if the US unlocked version of the HTC 10 (that you can order by the official HTC USA site) works on the Italian networks: band 3(1800MHz), 7(2600MHz), 20(800MHz);
so if I buy this phone and I do it to ship from America I can use it in Italy with any networks problem or restriction.
I'm very interested to know this, thank you.
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i have htc 10 USA unlocked in italy whit h3g network no problem all works
caxio said:
i have htc 10 USA unlocked in italy whit h3g network no problem all works
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Thank you very much :fingers-crossed:
I'm very happy to know this, I think there are also no problems with the 4g/LTE networks in Italy; I have a few questions if you want to answer me:
Why did you buy the HTC 10 USA version? (and not the Italian too)
Where did you buy it?
Which color is it?
Thanks for the reply
Filippo95 said:
Thank you very much :fingers-crossed:
I'm very happy to know this, I think there are also no problems with the 4g/LTE networks in Italy; I have a few questions if you want to answer me:
Why did you buy the HTC 10 USA version? (and not the Italian too)
Where did you buy it?
Which color is it?
Thanks for the reply
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1 for the price
2 second hand on ebay usa
3 silver black dont sell this color outside USA
caxio said:
1 for the price
2 second hand on ebay usa
3 silver black dont sell this color outside USA
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Thank you very much! You helped me a lot :laugh:
caxio said:
1 for the price
2 second hand on ebay usa
3 silver black dont sell this color outside USA
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Thank you very much! You helped me a lot
greenlifeHTC said:
If you go to this page: htc. com / uk / smartphones / htc-10
scroll to the bottom where the specs are and look under "Network" you will see the differences between the radio bands supported by the International/Asia and the America versions of the phone. The International version DOES NOT support all of the 4G LTE bands used by ATT in the US.
This page shows the LTE bands used in the US by major carriers. phonearena. com / news / Cheat-sheet-which-4G-LTE-bands-do-AT-T-Verizon-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
LTE band 5 is on both models of the phone, and band 5 is used in some very limited areas of the US, (but not enough to make it worth having a regional only phone at this cost, and the newest LTE uses dual-bands so that technology wouldn't work for you either).
If you live in the US, you absolutely want the US model of this phone if you expect 4G LTE and newer technologies to work for you over a wide area.
Hope this helps someone... I got suckering into ordering an International version off Amazon and it would not work on AT&T 4G LTE in my area (band 2).
Better to order the US version directly from HTC.
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Are you saying the M10H won't work with T-Mobile LTE? Im prepared to S-OFF and install whatever. The vendor listing has the US LTE freqs listed. Is that innacurate?
Listing is here....I'll be so LIVID if its another copy/paste bs item description!
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eB...ory=9355&pm=1&ds=0&t=1484796620470#ad-image-0
It lists the T-Mobile LTE bands, I did checkUSA
GENERAL
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only) CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - EMEA HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - USA
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - EMEA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300) - USA
It lists 2,4,12 between LTE band and - USA
mrbox23 said:
Are you saying the M10H won't work with T-Mobile LTE? Im prepared to S-OFF and install whatever. The vendor listing has the US LTE freqs listed. Is that innacurate?
Listing is here....I'll be so LIVID if its another copy/paste bs item description!
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eB...ory=9355&pm=1&ds=0&t=1484796620470#ad-image-0
It lists the T-Mobile LTE bands, I did checkUSA
GENERAL
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only) CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - EMEA HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - USA
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - EMEA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300) - USA
It lists 2,4,12 between LTE band and - USA
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m10h will not support 2/4/12 unless you convert to US unlocked. I have m10h and am on US unlocked. I seem to pickup 4/12 in some parts of the country, but have yet to see band 2. I'm also skeptical that I get all of band 4, I'm thinking I only get certain frequencies of Band 4.
So which version should I buy to use on AT&T in California?
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m10h will not support 2/4/12 unless you convert to US unlocked. I have m10h and am on US unlocked. I seem to pickup 4/12 in some parts of the country, but have yet to see band 2. I'm also skeptical that I get all of band 4, I'm thinking I only get certain frequencies of Band 4.
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Are you on T-Mobile? Have you used device in Colorado? I have my M10h coming today, I might just keep it with limited LTE and spring for the US Unlocked version from HTC, keeping the M10h as test dummy for my arm64 Debian experiments...
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Are you on T-Mobile? Have you used device in Colorado? I have my M10h coming today, I might just keep it with limited LTE and spring for the US Unlocked version from HTC, keeping the M10h as test dummy for my arm64 Debian experiments...
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Yes, tmob. I have used the device in NC, VA, MD, DC, NJ, and NYC. Only in NC and parts of VA can I not get LTE where I should be.
meats said:
Yes, tmob. I have used the device in NC, VA, MD, DC, NJ, and NYC. Only in NC and parts of VA can I not get LTE where I should be.
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Thanks for the info

Can anyone make sense of this conversation I had with u.s. cellular?

Hello. Does the LG K8 prepaid phone come unlocked? domestically or internationally or both or none? Thanks.
The that device is unlocked but it isn't a world phone and it can only be used in the United States. ^Andria
Hi thanks for that reply. But in saying that if it is unlocked and it is used overseas on a 2g or 3g or 4g band that the phone supports it should work?
It's unlocked for use with another U.S. service provider but it can't be used abroad because it doesn't have world phone capability. ^Andria
What I can't figure out is does she mean its domestically unlocked but internationally locked? ( that wouldn't make sense would it?)
Or is she clueless or trying to bs me in how I said about the frequencies?
Lol.
She means it doesnt have the bands that support overseas countries.
yugioh1412 said:
She means it doesnt have the bands that support overseas countries.
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From gsmarena lg k8 bands:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800)
In my country we have:
2g: 900/1800
3g: 850/2100
4g: band 3 & 7
So it should work right?
It should

What's the correct model to get for use in Japan (and how!)?

Still love my Z3 but MM OTA update fried the wifi&bt within a week. (Bad Sony. Bad.) So OP3 I'm ready for you.
I'm going to order a USA version and have my friend ship it to tokyo.
question1- Is there a better way to get one? After all, it's originating in China...
question2- Is USA version the way to go? The only info I have to rely on is the result from http://willmyphonework.net :
OnePlus 3 North America Model + Japan + Japan Travel SIM (data only)
2G Network: Carrier Network does not support 2G
3G Network: 2100MHz
4G LTE Network: Band1-2100MHz
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my Z3 D6653 works fine here in tokyo and is described as:
FD-LTE Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28, 40, 41, 42, 43, TD-LTE Band 40; UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz; GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
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gnormal said:
Still love my Z3 but MM OTA update fried the wifi&bt within a week. (Bad Sony. Bad.) So OP3 I'm ready for you.
I'm going to order a USA version and have my friend ship it to tokyo.
question1- Is there a better way to get one? After all, it's originating in China...
question2- Is USA version the way to go? The only info I have to rely on is the result from http://willmyphonework.net :
my Z3 D6653 works fine here in tokyo and is described as:
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FYI, oneplus chat support referred me to willmyphonework.net. i ordered the north american version to a usa address. its getting shipped to me in tokyo for $26 USPS (6-10 days).
I bought the European model and will have a chance to test in Japan when I get back in September. Will be flying back to Europe for holidays.
As long as your phone supports the 2100Mhz (B1) band it should work (as far as I can tell, I sure hope so otherwise my oneplus would be useless hehe). Coverage in the country side and mountains might be poor but my Ymobile pocket wifi always had crap reception in the mountains anyway so no big change there hehe.
Edit: I believe the USA is a bit special when it comes to the frequencies used. Unless you are from the USA you might be better off when the European model as that seems to have better global support.
North America version ordered from and shipped to USA, then forwarded by post ($26, 10 days) works fine with data sim. I don't have a voice sim here in Tokyo to try.
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Can the N. American version be used in GSM networks?

I may be being dense here, but I wanted to make sure because this is an expensive device. Can the OnePlus 3T North American version be used in GSM networks in Europe and Asia?
The spec page on OnePlus' site says:
Network
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
4G LTE (Cat. 6)
North America model
WCDMA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/8/12/17/30
CDMA EVDO: BC0
Europe / Asia model
WCDMA: Bands 1/2/5/8
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/3/5/7/8/20
TDD-LTE: Bands 38/40
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Am I right to assume this means it comes with GSM out of the box, with modifications for CDMA depending on which country I am ordering it from?
Simply check which bands are available in countries you intend to use the phone in and compare that to supported bands.
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Explorer23 said:
Simply check which bands are available in countries you intend to use the phone in and compare that to supported bands.
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So to clarify, let's say I am travelling to Singapore for instance, and they use GSM, I will be able to use my N. American version right because it also supports GSM along with the CDMA.
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So to clarify, let's say I am travelling to Singapore for instance, and they use GSM, I will be able to use my N. American version right because it also supports GSM along with the CDMA.
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Exact frequencies of bands used are also important. The phone does support both GSM and CDMA, but you need to make sure it supports the right GSM bands.
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Exact frequencies of bands used are also important. The phone does support both GSM and CDMA, but you need to make sure it supports the right GSM bands.
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So for example, GSM Arena shows a GSM band of 900 and 1800 in Singapore. That means it will work right? And thanks for taking the trouble to answer these newbie questions.
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So for example, GSM Arena shows a GSM band of 900 and 1800 in Singapore. That means it will work right? And thanks for taking the trouble to answer these newbie questions.
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Yup, those bands are supported. 2G at both freqs and 3G and 4G at 900. So you're good to go
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