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I had before Note and it was burninng in! Things like keyboard or status bar, now I'm afraid to use my Note 2 because I don't want to have burn-in things on my screen :/ So will galaxy note 2 burn-in? They said the new screen in Note 2 is non-pentile ,so.. it will be burn-in proof ? (rethorical question)
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Yes with the time it will have burn-in as all amoled screens.
I had my note 1 for a year and I was worried about the screen being damaged with screen burn. I kept the brightness down to a low to medium level and found no noticable wear on the screen after a year. The brighter and more vibrant your screen settings are set on the faster your screen will suffer.
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All AMOLED screens suffer from burn in, it's a matter of when but with caution you can prevent it. My SGS2 with RGB non Pentile suffered from burn in after 11 months, likewise my sisters SGS2.
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It will burn in, but I've had my Note 1 for nearly 11 months now and I don't have any burn in, and I keep it on automatic brightness. But I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
My GS2 got bad burn-in from Navigation - I left the screen on all the time when driving.
I am now using a MIUI rom which lets me press the home button 4 times to invert screen colours. I use this on Navigation to try to balance it back out (the lighter middle section of the nav screen is where the burn occurred).
I use lowest btightness and little screen on time and in 6 to 9 mths i noticed it
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Ok so this is only my opinion.
This phone is awesome but very expensive. Some buy this phone with a 2 year contract so i think its really bad that screens on phones like this have screens that can burn in within a year.
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b4d5h0t said:
I had my note 1 for a year and I was worried about the screen being damaged with screen burn. I kept the brightness down to a low to medium level and found no noticable wear on the screen after a year. The brighter and more vibrant your screen settings are set on the faster your screen will suffer.
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I had exactly the same experience with my galaxy s and galaxy s2. I always kept the screens at low brightness, and never noticed any burn in. A friend of me who also had an S2 always had his brightness set very high, and at his phone I noticed there was some screen burn in when I looked at it.
So, now I have my note 2, and I am going to keep the brightness at a low level most of the time, so I don't expect any problems.
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Preventing AMOLED burn in
I've had the Samsung Moment (AMOLED), Epic 4G (Super AMOLED), and the Epic 4G Touch (Super AMOLED+).
I noticed burn-in on both the Moment and the Epic 4G due to long screen on times and high brightness. I used to leave the screen on during my 45 minute commute so the Pandora Controls and the status bar icons were easy to see on any white backgrounds. With my latest phone I use short screen on times and adjust the brightness as needed (using the status bar slider). I've also switched to dark backgrounds in an attempt to maximize battery life as well as prevent burn in. This phone is currently just over a year old and has no detectable burn in, as checked with a dead pixel app swapping the screen colors between red, green, blue, and white. I've also integrated smart stay to keep the screen on when I need it but shut it off when it's not being looked at.
So, YES! Amoleds will burn in. In order to prevent screen burn-in I suggest this:
Limit unnecessary screen on time ~burn in is directly related to how long the screen is on.
Use the correct brightness for your situation ~burn in is directly related to how bright the screen is.
Use dark vs lighted based themes ~black uses no pixels, can save battery, and prevent eye strain!
Auto-hide the notification bar, or change the time format frequently ~It's the first thing to burn-in since it's visible and in the same location regardless of what app you're running!
Consider using a screen filter app at night for an even dimmer screen ~It'll protect your eyes and your pixels.
To detect screen burn in you can use just about any dead pixel app. Burn in will be most visible when the screen is all WHITE or all BLUE although you may be able to see some burn in in RED or GREEN although those colors are less likely to help detection.
Replacement is the only real solution in order to correct screen burn in. If you replace your phone every year (like I do) it shouldn't be much of an issue for you. However, If you're stuck with your phone for 18-24 months than you should take burn-in prevention seriously!
is the screen replaceable and for how much?
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is the screen replaceable and for how much?
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Best would be a warranty repair. Otherwise you have to source the screen + digitizer so price will depend on that, then you'll have to do the teardown/ replace/ reassembly yourself:
This is sad, warranty should cover this, it´s so miserable that you must be this careful about usage of this pricey phone...
How do I Auto-hide the notification bar?
Also, how do I disable UMTS messages from a mobile phone carrier that sends occasional messages to notify the balance I have left on my prepaid card?
walord said:
I've had the Samsung Moment (AMOLED), Epic 4G (Super AMOLED), and the Epic 4G Touch (Super AMOLED+).
I noticed burn-in on both the Moment and the Epic 4G due to long screen on times and high brightness. I used to leave the screen on during my 45 minute commute so the Pandora Controls and the status bar icons were easy to see on any white backgrounds. With my latest phone I use short screen on times and adjust the brightness as needed (using the status bar slider). I've also switched to dark backgrounds in an attempt to maximize battery life as well as prevent burn in. This phone is currently just over a year old and has no detectable burn in, as checked with a dead pixel app swapping the screen colors between red, green, blue, and white. I've also integrated smart stay to keep the screen on when I need it but shut it off when it's not being looked at.
So, YES! Amoleds will burn in. In order to prevent screen burn-in I suggest this:
Limit unnecessary screen on time ~burn in is directly related to how long the screen is on.
Use the correct brightness for your situation ~burn in is directly related to how bright the screen is.
Use dark vs lighted based themes ~black uses no pixels, can save battery, and prevent eye strain!
Auto-hide the notification bar, or change the time format frequently ~It's the first thing to burn-in since it's visible and in the same location regardless of what app you're running!
Consider using a screen filter app at night for an even dimmer screen ~It'll protect your eyes and your pixels.
To detect screen burn in you can use just about any dead pixel app. Burn in will be most visible when the screen is all WHITE or all BLUE although you may be able to see some burn in in RED or GREEN although those colors are less likely to help detection.
Replacement is the only real solution in order to correct screen burn in. If you replace your phone every year (like I do) it shouldn't be much of an issue for you. However, If you're stuck with your phone for 18-24 months than you should take burn-in prevention seriously!
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I use an always on display like the s7s on my oneplus 3 (using the glance plus app). I keep it on even throughout the night. I've read about AMOLED burn in on the web. Is it something to worry about?
This is what the always on screen is like
I mean...Amoled burn in was a real thing on my GNexus and Nexus 6 so I'd expect it to come into play at some point.
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I mean...Amoled burn in was a real thing on my GNexus and Nexus 6 so I'd expect it to come into play at some point.
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Hmm
Approximately how much time did it take for it to be significantly visible??
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Hmm
Approximately how much time did it take for it to be significantly visible??
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Dude, it's nonsense, don't worry about it. Even if you were to somehow keep the phone for a decade, I don't think that it would matter much. I used to be all paranoid about it with my S3, and to this day it's something that I haven't noticed assuming it's even there.
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In the past 4 years I've owned 5 different phones, of which 4 were AMOLED and I didn't have burn in on any of them.
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Burn in problems with amoled displays usually come in play after 2 to 3 years of usage. My old S3 has some solid burn in problems but they were only visible after a couple of years. After the S3 non of my phones had amoled displays unfortunately. Nexus 5 > Oneplus 2
I would not recommend that always on scheme you have.
I have owned several AMOLED phones since 2010 and not one of them has showed signs of burn-in, but I never had always on features running and would always use the lowest screen brightness possible for the situation at the time.
I had a Moto X 2014 and the navigationbar has burned in after only one year. I recommend you to stay away from apps like this and to use the capasative buttons
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I had a Moto X 2014 and the navigationbar has burned in after only one year. I recommend you to stay away from apps like this and to use the capasative buttons
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I had several amoled devices since the release of an amoled phone. I only had 1 burn in (nexus 6) which took about 6mos. on my s6, 6p and note 5 I don't have it yet. lol
don't worry about it. what irritates me on some amoled screen is the uneven hues.
Hmm i think its better not to use an always on display. Thanks everyone for your suggestions...
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I use an always on display like the s7s on my oneplus 3 (using the glance plus app). I keep it on even throughout the night. I've read about AMOLED burn in on the web. Is it something to worry about?
This is what the always on screen is like
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It was a thing of past galaxy s and s2 used to have that now amoled technology has enhanced it no longer burns i had s4 with same image on it for over 3 hours it has no burn-ins :good:
just use your op3 as a normal lcd display worry about anything.
Nevertheless with ambient display and possibility to wake up by waving above detector I don't see the point of permanent display on, except if docked, but there too there are special features in Rom.
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Burn-in is definitely a 'thing'. I don't ever use screen on, but I had burn-in on my Note 3 after 3 years, where the notification bar is probably in various other places that were constantly on. It wasn't overly noticeable because the notification bar is pretty much always there.
Personally I wouldn't worry about it. If you find it burns in enough to bother you, buy and fit a new screen. :good:
Had a nexus 6 for a year and a half prior to this phone. No burn in at all...not even the nav bar.
I've had burn in with every amoled phone I've used, usually the top bar with the clock there is a definitive line where the screen is brighter.
LEDs fade over time, at different rates, depending on several factors including temperature and time they are lit. There may be ways to minimize this, but its true for all LEDs regardless what form factor they are in.
I've seen Android make advancements to make this better, from auto hiding the clock/status bar to changing the color of the status bar depending on the colors of the apps being used, using dark themes (which also helps with battery life). Honestly, I don't worry about screen burn in - what are the chances you are going to be using the same phone in 5 years? Hell, even 2 years? Chances are there will be scuff, dent, and wear marks on your phone before burn in becomes an issue, and by the time it does you will be looking at an upgrade anyways.
I never faced it in any AMOLED device I saw. My S3 from june 2012 has no burn at all, and also devices of friends with amoled are working great after years.
I have a slight burn-in on my old SGS2 on the upper screen bar. None on SGS4 mini, Nokia Lumia 735 or SGS5. But it definitely exists
"Burn in" is inherent to the technology, unless some of the naysayers think they know more than the manufacturers themselves, however how fast you get it is dependent on your usage, brightness and temperatures. Oleds degrade at varying rates depending on color, blue has the least lifespan. So areas with the whites or blues that are constantly lit will wear out the blue Oleds significantly faster than red or green giving you a color shift. It's more like a fade out than a "burn in". It's not like image retention on LCDs which is reversible. It's common on display models at BestBuy etc within like a month because they leave the screens on 24/7 at full brightness. A regular user probably won't see it until 2-3 years of usage. I've had 2 AMOLED phones in my family, a Galaxy S and an S4 and only noticed it on the S4 on its second year but was barely visible.
TLDR: Burn in is very real, however don't worry too much, unless you use you phone at max brightness 12+ hrs a day with the same image on the screen like a display model... Which you wouldn't.
Take burn in serious
Based on my first hand experience, burn in is a serious problem. I own a moto z and never used always-on function. Yet after only four months of routine usage, My device's display has turned considerably yellowish in showing white and neutral tones and also has a ghost of navigation bar which is more visible when showing blue tones.
The blue LEDs deteriorate much faster than the other LEDs, making the screen yellowish and show traces of what was on screen for long periods of time. Like the status and navigation bars.
there are some mods or ROMs that provide burn in protection by moving pixels slightly every few minutes i think.
dont know how well that works actually, just sharing.
Hi,
I just got a refurbished OP3. Before, I had a Nexus 5X and a Nexus 5, both have LCD screens. But a long time ago I had a HTC One S, which have an AMOLED screen, and after 2 years of use the screen had huge burn-in marks and an ugly yellow tint.
Of what I know, burn-in begins by the blue LED giving the ugly yellow tint, and it's an irremediable phenomenon. But can I lower it on the OP3 by activating the "night light", reducing the usage of the blue LED ?
Thanks
This phone doesn't have burn in issues
Atok_fr said:
Hi,
I just got a refurbished OP3. Before, I had a Nexus 5X and a Nexus 5, both have LCD screens. But a long time ago I had a HTC One S, which have an AMOLED screen, and after 2 years of use the screen had huge burn-in marks and an ugly yellow tint.
Of what I know, burn-in begins by the blue LED giving the ugly yellow tint, and it's an irremediable phenomenon. But can I lower it on the OP3 by activating the "night light", reducing the usage of the blue LED ?
Thanks
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Burn in is an actual amoled problem. Yet this was a much worse on the early Samsung panels. But currently on the newer panels that we have been using since a long time this issue has severely decreased. Amoled Burn in will only occur when you putting your phone stationairy for multiple days and at max brightness. Don't worry about burn in, if you don't use your phone as a showcase device like they do in the shops then there is nothing to worry about.
I have some burn ins but my whatsapp chat screen is 24/7 on. So the text input box, call, video call, menu button and the contact's name is burned in to my display (of course statusbar icons too) but that is my fault. For one year this device been on the same screen for 6 - 7 hours straight. So don't worry about the burn ins with regular use it's nearly impossible.
My OP3 is almost two years old and has no burn-in at all.
Thanks to you all
I have the navigation bar burn-in. Any idea how to fix it?
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I have the navigation bar burn-in. Any idea how to fix it?
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Burn in is perm damage so no.
So it's time to change my old phone to the new one. I want to buy Pixel 2 XL but I'm so frightened because this phone has launched with a poor screen quality. Did someone buy this phone in february or in march and could tell me something about Pixel 2's blue-shift, burn-in or grain?
I think the screen it's good I don't have a lot of blue shift, but I think you must pay attention to the 4gb of ram , I have 4 mobiles and 3 of them are 4 and 3 GB of ram and they suffer a lot on multitasking.
And now I have a one plus 5t with 6gb of ram and that's much better.
By the phones are , Google pixel 2 xl, s8+ , ipx .
But the rest you're be good with pixel 2 XL , speed , fast updates, by the way the android P its right on the corner
I purchased the pixel 2 xl 15 days ago and yes, it has blue shift, but no more defects or burn in. My aunt has a S8 and I'd recommend the pixel 2 over the S8.
In my opinion, blue shift is overrated. Burn in issues seemed to be solved. Only the first batch at launch seem to be affected. Plus Google gives you a 2 year warranty so that should give you some peace of mind.
My girlfriend has the iPhone X and my roommate has the Note8. I highly recommend the Pixel 2 XL over both the phones.
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In my opinion, blue shift is overrated. Burn in issues seemed to be solved. Only the first batch at launch seem to be affected. Plus Google gives you a 2 year warranty so that should give you some peace of mind.
My girlfriend has the iPhone X and my roommate has the Note8. I highly recommend the Pixel 2 XL over both the phones.
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Agreed about the blue shift. Way over criticized. I only notice it when... I read someone post something about it then I go look, say to myself, yep, its there, then continue on like nothing at all.
However, if I was buying a phone right now, I would hold off until I can hold the S9+ in my hands. With most sites saying its just a refreshed S8+ I would prolly pass and stay with Pixel.
This phone is top notch. Switched from the S8+. No looking back.
I'll weigh in:
I just got mine last week (third week of Feb '18) via a Best Buy deal. The phone was built in Oct of '17. I was coming from a Note5 which I really loved.
Lots of things to like, a few things to niggle naggle about and a few things to really hate.
Likes:
Oreo 8.1+
Squeeze Assistant
Fingerprint reader gestures
Google Lens - It's amazing.
Camera. Just wow.
Lots of things you can customize without root (via ADB)... You can move the nav buttons around, etc...
Battery life is simply great. I get 4+ hours of screen time and can go 8+ hours while sleeping and only loose a percentage or two. It's quite amazing actually.
Dislikes:
Not a fan of the fingerprint reader on the back... to use it, you always have to pick up the phone... on other models where the reader is on the front, you can unlock the phone while it's flat on the table or work desk or whatever. Having it on the back does have some upsides though... so this one isn't a big deal.
Not a fan of the power button and volume keys all being on the same side and so close together... I find myself pressing one when I mean the other.
Rounded corners on the screens... seems like a good idea aesthetically but you actually loose a fair amount of real estate... for example, the status bar icons are moved in a fair amount to compensate for the rounded corners so you get a lot of black space to the left and right of the ends in the status bar... I would never sacrifice function for form like that. Dumb.
Blue shift. It's there... not a big deal but it's there.
Hate:
Extremely long charging times. Just to go from 90 to 100% is like an hour++. This is in NO way a quick charging phone.
No charging LED indicator. Boo. I did load an app for that but Boo.
No wireless charging. Boo and boo.
Double Hate:
Screen protectors are a nightmare with this device. I've never had such issues finding decent, inexpensive protector that doesn't curl, bubble, etc... and I can't find any quality tempered glass protectors. There are a couple liquid adhesive protectors out there but they cost 1 arm and 1 leg. Really?
I'm really hoping the charging time issue can be fixed in a future OS update. It seems that this started happening after the Feb '18 update. We'll see.
I was going to give mine to try an iPhone X and then to come back to pixel but i have felt in love with this device.. Blue shift exists a little bit but I had forget that issue.. I agree with the charging time that sucks from 90-100% but overall it's an fantastic device.. On mine i have deleted nav bar, i use only gestures and its a pleasure all this huge screen with these nice rounded corners..
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I was going to give mine to try an iPhone X and then to come back to pixel but i have felt in love with this device.. Blue shift exists a little bit but I had forget that issue.. I agree with the charging time that sucks from 90-100% but overall it's an fantastic device.. On mine i have deleted nav bar, i use only gestures and its a pleasure all this huge screen with these nice rounded corners..
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
UPDATE: Oh, I guess in Nova you can just turn the nav bar off. Will it allow for all the proper gestures for recents, back, home?
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Yes I am rooted. I am using nova launcher but it doesn't matter. I used all in one gestures app from play store. The nav bar hide automatically if you don't use it. You can set it on premesive mode threw app. But now i have deleted at all nav bar with an command on build editor and i use only gestures.
Here I made a video month ago how I had it and how will work. (now it's totally different )
https://youtu.be/BA7jey09SXw
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Yes I am rooted. I am using nova launcher but it doesn't matter. I used all in one gestures app from play store. The nav bar hide automatically if you don't use it. You can set it on premesive mode threw app. But now i have deleted at all nav bar with an command on build editor and i use only gestures.
Here I made a video month ago how I had it and how will work. (now it's totally different )
https://youtu.be/BA7jey09SXw
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Thx!
I purchased mine 3 weeks ago, it was produced in November 2017, and the screen doesn't have any of all the issues reported right and left.
It has a very slight blue tint maybe when you look at it at an angle... but you know what? My Galaxy S7 edge has it too. AMOLED displays HAVE blue shift, no technology is perfect.
I'm pretty happy with mine. I'm far from being your typical Google/Nexus/Pixel apologist, but after having Samsung flagship phones for years, I can honestly say the Pixel 2 XL is the best phone I've ever owned :good:
It doesn't have all the bells and whistles a Galaxy or Note has, but it works so great, without any issue. Everything with this phone feels silky smooth, without a single dropped frame. Everything you try to run looks "effortless" and easy for the Pixel. I'm amazed by that phone
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
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You don't have to root to get rid of the nav bar. There is a Substratum theme that changes the nav bar to any size you want including 0. I found it here on XDA. I'll see if I can find it and link to it when I get home.
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Here is a link for the nav bar height
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...-height-changer-android-nougat-t3447956/page1
and here is one I use to fix the lock screen swipe issue
https://www.xda-developers.com/fix-lock-screen-swipe-gesture-issues-android-81-oreo/
I just sold my 7 plus and received my pixel 2 xl yesterday. The blue shift isn't bad, it's only noticable to the person on the side of you looking at your screen. Screen quality doesn't seem bad but colors may be dull to some. There is a Oreo colorizer app that will force the display in wide color gamut mode which richens up the color. Google does offer a new vivid saturated display mode but that app works way better. Only thing I don't like is how Snapchat looks like poo.. which it does on every Android but yeah.. this is probably the best camera quality you will get on Snapchat Android due to visual core enhancing the photos which does a pretty damn good job!
On a cold rainy cloudy dark Washington day, camera doesn't look as nice as what my iPhone 7 plus would've took with it's camera..
How did Google handle burning the Pixel screen? For MIUI rom, the clock moves to burn the display. But there is no such thing as PE, what solution do you use?
I have same question, on cherish OS always-on clock is always in one place it can hurt display.
If it was going to burn the screen like you said, Google would have already done it for to protect its devices
I think the idea of burning only applies to big TV Oled screens and not for smart phones
My old Pixel 2xl have burn ins, but from Chrome and nav bar+status bar, not from the always on feature. The clock is simple to dim i believe