Moto Z2 Force - APTX? - Moto Z2 Force Questions & Answers

Hello!
Anyone knows if our phone supports aptX codec?
I've looked around but couldn't see any info about this
Thanks!

Tavisco said:
Hello!
Anyone knows if our phone supports aptX codec?
I've looked around but couldn't see any info about this
Thanks!
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I'm not sure if the version Moto put on of Nougat supports Apt-X or not, but it does support AAC up to 256kbps. Once Oreo comes out, it supports Apt-X HD as well as the awesome LDAC protocol natively. Not only that, but in Dev options, there's an entire section on Bluetooth streaming protocols and bitrate/sample rate settings. It's awesome!

Yeah! I can confirm that it supports on Oreo

Codec settings
Has anyone been able to get AptX HD setting in Bluetooth dev options to stay on? Sony WH-1000xm2 just reverts back to LDAC each time headphones are reconnected.

Yes it supports AptX. I don't have any devices that use AptXHD so I can't confirm that.

spinsupreme said:
Yes it supports AptX. I don't have any devices that use AptXHD so I can't confirm that.
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It doesn't actually work. In developer options the option won't save like it should. It seems something is preventing it from activating. Only AVRCP changes, all other options cannot be changed

Uzephi said:
It doesn't actually work. In developer options the option won't save like it should. It seems something is preventing it from activating. Only AVRCP changes, all other options cannot be changed
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The thing preventing it from activating is not having a device that uses it connected. As you can see from this screenshot it's active in the developer options too.

weverette said:
Has anyone been able to get AptX HD setting in Bluetooth dev options to stay on? Sony WH-1000xm2 just reverts back to LDAC each time headphones are reconnected.
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LDAC is Sony's own codec and as far as I've heard is superior to aptX HD in just about every way.

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The thing preventing it from activating is not having a device that uses it connected. As you can see from this screenshot it's active in the developer options too.
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Hrm, could be because I am on DU and was told it's a known issue on stock so shrugged it off. I miss LDAC...

Uzephi said:
Hrm, could be because I am on DU and was told it's a known issue on stock so shrugged it off. I miss LDAC...
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None of the settings on DU, AOSiP, and invictrix stick, even graphics settings, when switching the GPU render from OpenGL to Vulkan, it doesn't stick and games crash, I have to restart device to fix it.

Settings don't stick because the Bluetooth LDAC needs to be able to connect to multiple devices and negotiate the best possible connection to each device hence the last setting best effort adaptive bitrate is always toggled and you can't seem to change that. But as each new Bluetooth device connects check back in developer settings and you will see what is the current codec in use for the connected device.

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Bluetooth audio codec: does not stick

I keep on setting the audio bluetooth codec under dev optioons on "aptx" but after exiting the option goes back on "default".
Anyone can help?
thegios said:
I keep on setting the audio bluetooth codec under dev optioons on "aptx" but after exiting the option goes back on "default". Anyone can help?
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Mine doesn't appear to stick either, but when I use my BT speaker I see an option in the connect dialog to use the Qualcomm aptX driver even though the codec is set to default (SBC). I don't see this aptX option when using my car or earbuds. I know this doesn't really help much, but I thought it was relative. I do know that the AVRCP setting does stick. Have you looked in the Google Issue Tracker? I'll go and star the issue if I can find it.
Edit: It is THERE listed as closed due to lack of data, feedback. Seems they ignored the obvious.... codec selection not sticking?
How do you tell if aptx is working while you're playing something to say a wireless speaker?
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pixelsquish said:
How do you tell if aptx is working while you're playing something to say a wireless speaker?
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In BT settings I see a toggle for Qualcomm aptX and it's on... but in Dev Ops the BT codec still says Default: SBC. I think the audio codec setting there is busted, but the phone seems to use the best available codec. The device is a Creative (Soundblaster) Roar BT speaker. Now if I could only get the phone to auto connect to my car kit. Stays paired but will only manually connect which is a real pain.
v12xke said:
In BT settings I see a toggle for Qualcomm aptX and it's on... but in Dev Ops the BT codec still says Default: SBC. I think the audio codec setting there is busted, but the phone seems to use the best available codec. The device is a Creative (Soundblaster) Roar BT speaker. Now if I could only get the phone to auto connect to my car kit. Stays paired but will only manually connect which is a real pain.
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Hmmm. My JBL Flip 4 is paired and it can use aptx but no option there. Weird.
My fm transmitter car kit will connect automatically, as long as it's set for media and phone calls.. Is yours just set for media only?
pixelsquish said:
Hmmm. My JBL Flip 4 is paired and it can use aptx but no option there. Weird.
My fm transmitter car kit will connect automatically, as long as it's set for media and phone calls.. Is yours just set for media only?
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Yes, I've tried every combination there. It was working perfect with the N6P, and has never worked with the P2XL. Car kit is the absolute cheapest Chinese one you can find on Ebay... audio only, BT version 2.0 I think with no phone mic lol. Time to pony up and get a newer/better one. Had not considered FM transmitter because my car has the line in AUX. in my console so I can hide it.... It's about the size of a matchbox. This is a first world problem I know, but really annoying to me, and I know it's the phone because the Nexus was working for a year no problems. Thanks for your response.
v12xke said:
Yes, I've tried every combination there. It was working perfect with the N6P, and has never worked with the P2XL. Car kit is the absolute cheapest Chinese one you can find on Ebay... audio only, BT version 2.0 I think with no phone mic lol. Time to pony up and get a newer/better one. Had not considered FM transmitter because my car has the line in AUX. in my console so I can hide it.... It's about the size of a matchbox. This is a first world problem I know, but really annoying to me, and I know it's the phone because the Nexus was working for a year no problems. Thanks for your response.
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We are both very frustrated here. Me cause I know I have an aptx capable device and am not getting to use it. You because you can't do a simple auto connect via bluetooth. Oy! Come on January update!
see my post here for a similar issue that I was able to workaround fairly easy
TLDR: You need root, edit your build.prop (using text editor, some app from the play store, etc) and change the following key: persist.vendor.bt.a2dp_offload_cap
by removing -aac from the string.
I'm sorry if it looks like I'm spamming I just encountered this issue on a lot of forums with no result and I do hope that this will help some

Audio Codecs

So i ride a R1 and bought a Cardo Slimtalk bluetooth speaker system for my helmet, and one of the users in their forums suggested i switch the bluetooth audio codec, in dev options
So i go and change it from "Use system selection" which is usually "SBC" to APTx or LDAC and it switches back immediately, what gives? how can i take advantage of this?
masri1987 said:
So i ride a R1 and bought a Cardo Slimtalk bluetooth speaker system for my helmet, and one of the users in their forums suggested i switch the bluetooth audio codec, in dev options
So i go and change it from "Use system selection" which is usually "SBC" to APTx or LDAC and it switches back immediately, what gives? how can i take advantage of this?
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your bluetooth speaker doesn't support anything higher than SBC
DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
your bluetooth speaker doesn't support anything higher than SBC
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i even tried this on my jabra 65t actives and nothing would work either.
Anyway I can force the phone ?
masri1987 said:
i even tried this on my jabra 65t actives and nothing would work either.
Anyway I can force the phone ?
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The jabra seems to have aac, try that. Should work fine automatically, otherwise use the app if available on Android.
And if the dev settings won't stick, you can't force it otherwise. Some devices have apps which can be used for them and also to force things like that (Sony for example does this)
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Bluetooth Audio Codec

Got a pair of Sony WH-1000XM3's today. The headphones support SBC, AAC, aptX, aptX HD, LDAC Bluetooth Codecs but according to the App its only ussing AptX. It looks like the Note 10+ should support LDAC which I'm told is one of the best. I can turn it on in the developer menu, but then it just seems to turn off and go back to AptX.
Any idea how to get it working?
Go to the bluetooth settings and then select the headphones and enable LDAC for the headphones
howie411 said:
Got a pair of Sony WH-1000XM3's today. The headphones support SBC, AAC, aptX, aptX HD, LDAC Bluetooth Codecs but according to the App its only ussing AptX. It looks like the Note 10+ should support LDAC which I'm told is one of the best. I can turn it on in the developer menu, but then it just seems to turn off and go back to AptX.
Any idea how to get it working?
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You're lucky yours stays on AptX. Mine switches back to SBC no matter what I do.
I've also got the Sony WH-1000XM3 and would be interested to know how to switch. The suggested method of selecting the headset only shows the Name, the option to unpair and use for "Calls" and "Audio" and nothing about LDAC.
thecrater said:
You're lucky yours stays on AptX. Mine switches back to SBC no matter what I do.
I've also got the Sony WH-1000XM3 and would be interested to know how to switch. The suggested method of selecting the headset only shows the Name, the option to unpair and use for "Calls" and "Audio" and nothing about LDAC.
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So I did find out if I go to the gear icon for the paired WH-1000XM3, at the bottom it says Codecs and does list LDAC. It was off, so I turned it on and it seemed to stay. Not sure about AptX HD but I think LDAC is better anyways.
thecrater said:
You're lucky yours stays on AptX. Mine switches back to SBC no matter what I do.
I've also got the Sony WH-1000XM3 and would be interested to know how to switch. The suggested method of selecting the headset only shows the Name, the option to unpair and use for "Calls" and "Audio" and nothing about LDAC.
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Same here... i have XB900N....tried everything..given up momentarily.
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howie411 said:
So I did find out if I go to the gear icon for the paired WH-1000XM3, at the bottom it says Codecs and does list LDAC. It was off, so I turned it on and it seemed to stay. Not sure about AptX HD but I think LDAC is better anyways.
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Exynos or Snapdragon?
I'm on Exynos and i dont see anything as such on the bluetooth setting.
Got it working finally....
1. Sony companion app, set Sound Quality Mode to Priority on Sound Quality.
2. Now you ll have the LDAC option enabled on your bluetooth settings for your paired headphone under calls and audio. Turn it on.
Now you ll have the developer options > bluetooth audio codec stick to LDAC.
Also interested if this is the same for Exynos processors.
boxallw said:
Also interested if this is the same for Exynos processors.
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Yes it is. It's an Android option so should be on all version.
Had it on my exynos note 9..and now my exynos note10+
Now I suggest you to try another tweak on developer settings: Bluetooth Audio LDAC Codec. Try to put it 990kbps. Unfortunately, I couldn't get a reliable Bluetooth connection and it "cracks" the sound sometimes. I'm still testing, buy seems pretty stable at 660kbps.
You may find the following article an interesting reading:
[ As a new user, I'm not allowed to post outside links. Please, Google for: The ultimate guide to Bluetooth headphones: LDAC isn’t Hi-res ]
Up the IroNs!
Galaxy Note10+ (SM-N975F) with Tapatalk.
IroN_tuxer said:
Now I suggest you to try another tweak on developer settings: Bluetooth Audio LDAC Codec. Try to put it 990kbps. Unfortunately, I could get a reliable Bluetooth connection and it "cracks" the sound sometimes. I'm still testing, buy seems pretty stable at 660kbps.
You may find the following article an interesting reading:
[ As a new user, I'm not allowed to post outside links. Please, Google for: The ultimate guide to Bluetooth headphones: LDAC isn’t Hi-res ]
Up the IroNs!
Galaxy Note10+ (SM-N975F) with Tapatalk.
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Same issue here. Poor quality connection between my Sony XM3s and my Note 10+ when using LDAC at the maximum bandwidth.
Kiran-Kumar said:
Got it working finally....
1. Sony companion app, set Sound Quality Mode to Priority on Sound Quality.
2. Now you ll have the LDAC option enabled on your bluetooth settings for your paired headphone under calls and audio. Turn it on.
Now you ll have the developer options > bluetooth audio codec stick to LDAC.
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I have the WI-1000X's, found if you try any of the EQ settings in the app it forces you to SBC.
Also @A_DrunkTeddyBear thank you for the LDAC tip, got it enabled on mine now.
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Aptx settings won't save

Hello, as the title says everytime I connect my bt Earbuds I have ți manually select aptx from dev menu. Do you know how I can have them saved?
Thank you
Change name of your device in bluetooth and add "_NOAAC"
By som reason LG will always use aac over apt-x. By adding _NOAAC it skips aac codex and connects with aptx..
Hello, thanks for your reply. I did change the name, but it doesn't work..
Did I do something wrong?
You should ADD not replace xD
In example: i have headphones ATH-DSR7BT
then it should be ATH-DSR7BT_NOAAC
Personally i don't know if it's working. I didn't know that method and my headphones supports aptx HD
ShadoV90 said:
You should ADD not replace xD
In example: i have headphones ATH-DSR7BT
then it should be ATH-DSR7BT_NOAAC
Personally i don't know if it's working. I didn't know that method and my headphones supports aptx HD
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It worked, thank you guys.
Another thing, how do I keep this setting saved? It always resets to (best effort adaptive bit rate)
These are setting for LDAC codec used mostly by Sony Headphones. If your headphones doesn't use LDAC, then you shouldn't worry. For the rest of codecs it doesn't matter.
As far as i know, Sony have app for their headphones, and that app will set everything properly.
So, these options should remain untouched.
ShadoV90 said:
These are setting for LDAC codec used mostly by Sony Headphones. If your headphones doesn't use LDAC, then you shouldn't worry. For the rest of codecs it doesn't matter.
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I understand. Thank you ?

Question LDAC greyed out

I have a pair of Sony WF100 XM4's on want to use the LDAC setting on the phone. I go to Dev options, but it's greyed out. Is there anyway I can resolve this? I've seen another thread which isn't the 6 Pro that says you have to reset your wireless settings or something similar. Do I have to do this?
I have exactly the same pair of headphones and have been wondering the same some time ago.
LDAC works 100%
mightywhites29111971 said:
I have a pair of Sony WF100 XM4's on want to use the LDAC setting on the phone. I go to Dev options, but it's greyed out. Is there anyway I can resolve this? I've seen another thread which isn't the 6 Pro that says you have to reset your wireless settings or something similar. Do I have to do this?
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what does Sony say about the issue?
LDAC works on the 6 Pro (I have different headphones and BT DACs, as do many others) but not Sony's.
have you tried deleting the headphones from BT settings, resetting the Sony's and re-pairing?
If "HD Audio" doesn't show up in the Bluetooth Device Details for the Sony headphone (where you see Contacts, Phone Calls and Media Audio), then it won't show up in developer options.
Alekos said:
LDAC works 100%
what does Sony say about the issue?
LDAC works on the 6 Pro (I have different headphones and BT DACs, as do many others) but not Sony's.
have you tried deleting the headphones from BT settings, resetting the Sony's and re-pairing?
If "HD Audio" doesn't show up in the Bluetooth Device Details for the Sony headphone (where you see Contacts, Phone Calls and Media Audio), then it won't show up in developer options.
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I have unpaired and repaired - makes no difference. HD Audio is selected in Dev options, but LDAC greyed out. I haven't contacted Sony about the issue yet, but will do some Googling to see if it's an issue with these earphones first before contacting them. I am not sure what your last paragraph means?
mightywhites29111971 said:
I have unpaired and repaired - makes no difference. HD Audio is selected in Dev options, but LDAC greyed out. I haven't contacted Sony about the issue yet, but will do some Googling to see if it's an issue with these earphones first before contacting them. I am not sure what your last paragraph me
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mightywhites29111971 said:
I have a pair of Sony WF100 XM4's on want to use the LDAC setting on the phone. I go to Dev options, but it's greyed out. Is there anyway I can resolve this? I've seen another thread which isn't the 6 Pro that says you have to reset your wireless settings or something similar. Do I have to do this?
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My LDAC headphones will work in 990 mode but only with the screen off, otherwise the sound skips. It works fine in 660 mode with the screen on. I've tried different fixes but nothing has worked. The only time LDAC is greyed out on my phone is when the headphones aren't on and connected.
I Googled it and found this:
https://www.sony-asia.com/electronics/support/articles/00264224
So followed that and it shows that LDAC is on so why doesn't it show in Dev options?
mightywhites29111971 said:
I Googled it and found this:
https://www.sony-asia.com/electronics/support/articles/00264224
So followed that and it shows that LDAC is on so why doesn't it show in Dev options?
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So you installed the app? On my headphones, not Sony, I needed their app to get LDAC to show....
I had the app previously because I had the XM3's. Its not obvious in the app until you see the instructions I posted. It's still greyed out in Dev options which I don't get.
You maybe need to enable quality mode in Sony headphones app. My xm3 working good. But only in adaptive ldac settings
I had Quality mode enabled even before and it was still grayed out. Went to Stable mode and back to Quality mode and its still grayed out.
mightywhites29111971 said:
I have unpaired and repaired - makes no difference. HD Audio is selected in Dev options, but LDAC greyed out. I haven't contacted Sony about the issue yet, but will do some Googling to see if it's an issue with these earphones first before contacting them. I am not sure what your last paragraph means?
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So LDAC will show up in the bluetooth information for the device, for example: HD Audio: LDAC, but only if LDAC is enabled on the device through an app or natively (but its usually an app)
It looks like I got it working, but only in 660kbps mode. Go 990 and it skips all over the show. Also, every time I connect the headphones I have to change the setting to 660 in Dev options. Isn't there an option to save it to this setting for my Sony's because I can't seem to see it!
How or what did you do to make it work at least in 660 kbps ?
mightywhites29111971 said:
It looks like I got it working, but only in 660kbps mode. Go 990 and it skips all over the show. Also, every time I connect the headphones I have to change the setting to 660 in Dev options. Isn't there an option to save it to this setting for my Sony's because I can't seem to see it!
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My P6P always defaulted to ”best effort”. Then I installed the Sony apps on my phone and selected high quality. Even though I don't have Sony earbuds, when I connect my LDAC earbuds it defaults to 990. This would be fine if 990 actually worked...
Is there any way to get it to default to 660?
mightywhites29111971 said:
Is there any way to get it to default to 660?
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I haven't found a way to do that. It would be nice if the update that's coming out in a few hours would fix the LDAC 990 problem but I'm not holding my breath.
Matterhorn said:
My LDAC headphones will work in 990 mode but only with the screen off, otherwise the sound skips. It works fine in 660 mode with the screen on. I've tried different fixes but nothing has worked. The only time LDAC is greyed out on my phone is when the headphones aren't on and connected.
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Disable Wi-Fi it will fix stuttering. For me it runs smooth on 990 Xperia 1 III
LDAC works for me on the Sony WH-1000XM3 out of the box.
OH MY F* GOD. Disabling "Connect to 2 devices simultaneously" enabled LDAC. That's so dumb and someone should have said about that.
You can disable it in Sony Headphones app under System tab.
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I haven't found a way to do that. It would be nice if the update that's coming out in a few hours would fix the LDAC 990 problem but I'm not holding my breath.
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It's still broken, unfortunately. 990kbps has constant disconnects. Sort of defeats the purpose of the nigh bitrate codec. I wonder why google has such poor development with each of these updates.

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