running without a screen protector?/ gorilla glass screen protector? - Moto Z2 Force Questions & Answers

I rarely drop my phones, not one. single. phone. I've ever had has had its screen shatter. not one! yet as soon as I got this phone I put a "tempered glass" screen protector on it because I was afraid of scratching. since then I've had 5 screen protectors from 3 different brands crack... ok sick of these screen protectors so I'm asking:
does anyone use their z2 force without a screen protector? how has your screen held up? is there a true gorilla glass (not just tempered glass) screen protector for our phone out there?

Drops are not the issue, it's more so that the plastic built in screen protector scratches VERY easily.
The latest Omoton screen glass protectors from Amazon work pretty well. It's leaves a big portion of the top area near the speaker and flash open though

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Tempered Glass pros and cons vs Film screen protectors?

What the pros and cons of tempered glass screen protector vs a Film screen protector?
My concern about the Tempered glass is that :
--it's adhesive is only on the bezel area and since phones today have smaller bezel so it might get detached easily
--Tempered Glass might scratch the glass beneath it
--If adhesive of the Tempered glass became less sticky Dust might accumulate inside
So can you tell me your experience with tempered glass screen protector? I really want to hear from someone who used this screen protector for long time and not on these reviews on youtube since they only used it on the time they review it.
And also does anyone tried using combination of Film and T.glass protectors?
I also second this. Anyone that has this screen protector please respond.
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I just found out that Spigen is selling a new type of tempered Glass screen protector it is "GLAS.T" it's different from the old one. This new one is all transparent and has adhesive all through-out the back part of the screen protector, unlike the old one which has paint on the borders and only adhesive on the painted area.
Spigen has GLAS.T for Note 1 Anyone that used the product for about 5-6 months now?
ichilouch said:
What the pros and cons of tempered glass screen protector vs a Film screen protector?
My concern about the Tempered glass is that :
--it's adhesive is only on the bezel area and since phones today have smaller bezel so it might get detached easily
--Tempered Glass might scratch the glass beneath it
--If adhesive of the Tempered glass became less sticky Dust might accumulate inside
So can you tell me your experience with tempered glass screen protector? I really want to hear from someone who used this screen protector for long time and not on these reviews on youtube since they only used it on the time they review it.
And also does anyone tried using combination of Film and T.glass protectors?
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I have a tempered glass screen protector for my Note 3 and it fits and works perfectly. It's been on my phone for 2 months now. Not a single scratch to it and no peeling or dust accumulation at all. I would recommend one any time over a plastic protector. I got mine from a company called fasttech. They are very cheap compared to UK sellers and the company is very reliable even considering that they are Chinese.
Tempered glass has an adhesive throughout the whole surface, not only the bezel/perimeter area.
The difference is very simple. If you want scratch protection, get a film screen protector, but make sure to get quality PET 3H hardness film like the one sold by iSmooth and Spigen. Cheap ebay stuff is thin, will scratch, will bubble after some time, and will have rainbow effect under the florescent light. If you want ultimate shatter protection - get tempered glass. On impact the glass will shatter without affecting your display. Spigen and Seidio makes some of the best ones. I'm personally a big fan of Seidio VITREO and been using it on my Note 2 for a very long time.
for LG g2 temperate glass or we don't have to buy anything
I use the tempered glass for the LG G2, i think its better than a film protector.
No bubbles nothing, very clean. if you dont look at the edges u wont see there is a protector.
4ex said:
I use the tempered glass for the LG G2, i think its better than a film protector.
No bubbles nothing, very clean. if you dont look at the edges u wont see there is a protector.
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i've really no bubbles, just use the type method to remove bubles cause by dust.
the cons is that film protector changes a bit the polarization of my glass so it has more strange effect on very high view angle
cocconut said:
i've really no bubbles, just use the type method to remove bubles cause by dust.
the cons is that film protector changes a bit the polarization of my glass so it has more strange effect on very high view angle
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Did u try a tempered glass or went straight to the film protector?
I tried 2 film protectors but i wasn't satisfied with that but the tempered glass is really fine for me.
Pros & cons of Tempered glass screen protector
4ex said:
Did u try a tempered glass or went straight to the film protector?
I tried 2 film protectors but i wasn't satisfied with that but the tempered glass is really fine for me.
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The advantages of T. glass over films are the following.
-. Scratch - (almost)free : sellers boast it is harder than stock display, but I don't agree with. Glass screen protector also gets scratch.
-. Superb feeling : yes. its feeling is real better even stock display including any premium film. http://vimeo.com/91463403
-. Bubble -Free : Yes. it is easy to install and you don't worry about bubble.
Disadvantages
-. Price : $5~40 : I have tried $5 and 40 as well. I don't recommend both $5 and $40. you can find good one between them.
-. Thickness :0.15~0.4mm : Compared to film, it is bulky. Sometimes it won't be compatible with certain cases. (I don't recommend too thin one, since it is easy to brake before doing its protection job)
i have used a glass screen protector for the last month until it broke when i dropped my phone from hip height. i am extremely satisfied by the product. as it is rigid, it is very easy to apply and in contrast with plastic film protectors, the tempered glass lets your fingers glide on the screen. i was also impressed by the fact that after 1 month's use my phone had zero scratches, even though i was kind of provoking scratches by the way i was handling the phone. never going back to plastic film, not a slight chance there.
I've run a gauntlet recently with screen protectors and cases with my galaxy s7 edge. I can definitely tell you the pros and cons between tempered glass and soft film screen protectors.
Tempered glass pros- much sturdier, better scratch resistance, looks better. Easier to install. Longer field life. Better phone protection all around.
Tempered glass cons: some cases won't work with tempered glass unless it has a top that fully covers the glass. Dust buildup under screen protector, less sensitivity- much less. Won't work with an otterbox symmetry because the sides and front push the glass up and out but does work with the defender because the defender covers the edge of the screen. If sand or dirt gets underneath glsss, it could scratch up your screen. Very thick too.
PET film pros- better sensitivity, will work with any phone case. Sturdy enough for the most part. No issues with dust buildup under the cover. Works with any case and has better adherence. Very thin.
PET cons- they look cheap and scratch more easily than tempered glass and you can tell that the phone has a screen protector. Harder to install. The protector scratches but the phone screen doesn't. Shorter field life.
Personally, I prefer PET film screen protectors to tempered glass but to be fair, I have an edge phone and glass screen protectors with edge phones can be more finicky than flat phones. Glass looks better, but aside from drop protection and looks, they don't keep the dirt out and can be a chore with the wrong kind of cases, or simply won't work.
I think film is much more versatile and I'm willing to trade some aesthetics in favor of usability. That's my 2 cents on both types of screen protectors based on recent experience.
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And liquid bubbles with soft cases go away in a few days. Air must be popped and dust must be removed physically but moisture does dry out. You can tell a moisture bubble because it has rainbow swirls if you view the phone on a screen with a white background.
Don't try to iron out small moisture bubbles or press them out. They go away on their own within a week and if you mess with them you can bend your soft screen protector out of shape or get divot lines.
Also, if the soft screen protector has the oleophobic coating, it does work very well, in fact it's almost if not better about prints and crap on the screen than actual glass screens. Plus, tempered glass can be a problem on certain phones.
My friend has a note 5 with a tempered glass screen protector and he dropped his phone (no case) so instead of the screen shattering, the back of the phone did. Protectors work, but if you have a glass coated phone- better have a case on it.

[Q] Tempered glass

I want to use my phone without any case. I'm not afraid of scratches, but I'm afraid of screen cracking if I drop my phone. So my question is: if I use tempered glass, will it protect my screen from cracking? Or they will both be cracked? And I also want that glass is the thinnest. So I was thinking about getting 0.15 mm tempered glass. Is it different from 0.3mm or 0.4mm in term of protection, or does only the hardness matter?
Thank you for your reply.
I've dropped mine many many times onto wood and concrete without a screen protector. The phone is a little chipped and scratched, but the screen is absolutely fine.
A nilkin tempered glass screen protector is a good investment as it feels brilliant although when I dropped mine with that on it smashed the corner of the protector.
The edges of the phone are slightly raised so without the screen protector on, a drop onto a flat surface will not damage the screen but will damage the screen protector.
A drop onto a raised surface like a stone would probably break the screen protector but don't know if it'd also damage the screen.
Question is, how often do you drop your phone, and how much do you want to spend on glass protectors?
HtcOneJon said:
I've dropped mine many many times onto wood and concrete without a screen protector. The phone is a little chipped and scratched, but the screen is absolutely fine.
A nilkin tempered glass screen protector is a good investment as it feels brilliant although when I dropped mine with that on it smashed the corner of the protector.
The edges of the phone are slightly raised so without the screen protector on, a drop onto a flat surface will not damage the screen but will damage the screen protector.
A drop onto a raised surface like a stone would probably break the screen protector but don't know if it'd also damage the screen.
Question is, how often do you drop your phone, and how much do you want to spend on glass protectors?
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I was thinking about Nillkin, but I think it would be too thick. So I'm considering those 0.15 mm protectors in this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc...5mm-dot-view-friendly-tempered-glass-t2810825
I also thought about xtremeguard, since I use their normal protectors and they are great. It 50$, but with 85% off coupon it's just a few bucks. Only problem is that it's 0.4mm.
Which one would you recommend? I'm planning to spend 10-15$, because 40-50$ is really to much for a protector, in my opinion.
This is the one I use:
ZeroLemon® Ultra Glass Armor - 9H Premium Tempered Glass Screen Protector for HTC One M8
Oditius said:
This is the one I use:
ZeroLemon® Ultra Glass Armor - 9H Premium Tempered Glass Screen Protector for HTC One M8
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Is it noticable a lot while it's on the phone, since it's 0.3mm?
HTC_One_M8_91 said:
Is it noticable a lot while it's on the phone, since it's 0.3mm?
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If your looking for it, but after putting on, I haven't paid much attention to it. I dropped my phone once, chipped away at the edges of the shield. The seller replaced it free. I like tempered glass, it is the only screen proctor I will put on my phones. The only bad thing is that it goes edge to edge with the glass. So if you have a case that touches the screen, that might cause a problem. I use a thin clear cars I got off ebay. Works for me.
Ultra 0.5mm Slim TPU Skin Clear new Case Transparent Cover
Oditius said:
If your looking for it, but after putting on, I haven't paid much attention to it. I dropped my phone once, chipped away at the edges of the shield. The seller replaced it free. I like tempered glass, it is the only screen proctor I will put on my phones. The only bad thing is that it goes edge to edge with the glass. So if you have a case that touches the screen, that might cause a problem. I use a thin clear cars I got off ebay. Works for me.
Ultra 0.5mm Slim TPU Skin Clear new Case Transparent Cover
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The only annoying thing could be top edge, when I pull down notification bar.
Case wouldn't be a problem, because I'm planning to use phone without case, and that why I'm looking for a tempered glass, to protect screen from cracking.
HTC_One_M8_91 said:
The only annoying thing could be top edge, when I pull down notification bar.
Case wouldn't be a problem, because I'm planning to use phone without case, and that why I'm looking for a tempered glass, to protect screen from cracking.
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Actually then it could be a benefit, because going edge to edge means you will probably not touch the edge. And the edge is not sharp, nice and smooth. The price is cheap enough to try it. I have tried several over the last few months, mostly from China. But this is US born and works and feels great.

Great PET Dry Install Screen protectors

Just picked these up while I wait on the perfect tgsp. Have to say I am super impressed...I may just roll with these for the time being. Covers full screen and edges with a built in curvature. Don't know how they stick but they do. Running an OEM case so I can't comment on the case friendliness other than the flip cover which is perfect.
Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus Screen Protector, TOPGO Bubble-Free Anti-Scratch Film [Full Cover]-HD Clear https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y56HSQX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_AHsczbQNYB7VM
jason1332 said:
Just picked these up while I wait on the perfect tgsp. Have to say I am super impressed...I may just roll with these for the time being. Covers full screen and edges with a built in curvature. Don't know how they stick but they do. Running an OEM case so I can't comment on the case friendliness other than the flip cover which is perfect.
Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus Screen Protector, TOPGO Bubble-Free Anti-Scratch Film [Full Cover]-HD Clear https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y56HSQX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_AHsczbQNYB7VM
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These prevent scratches, but do they also prevent the screen from cracking if you drop the device? I went with glass screen protector but that's because in the past, any time I've had issues with dropping the device, the glass screen protector cracked or shattered, but the device's actual screen protector was intact.
sanjsrik said:
These prevent scratches, but do they also prevent the screen from cracking if you drop the device? I went with glass screen protector but that's because in the past, any time I've had issues with dropping the device, the glass screen protector cracked or shattered, but the device's actual screen protector was intact.
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No protection from cracking with these... Only meant for scratches.

DO NOT install tempered glass protector on your zenfone 3.

I just realized this.
I bought a cheap tempered glass online only to found out that it was 1mm smaller than the display. This would be really awkward to have two lines (of that glass) on your display when the screen turned on. I complained to the seller about it but he didn't reply to me yet.
Then I bought a new one which perfectly fit the size of the display. I know it won't be full size because of the phone glass curvature. After installing it, the all 4 sides of the glass edge didn't stick. Although it wasn't very visible when the screen turned on, but I worry that some dust will get in there.
Now I know that the curve of the phone glass starts at 2mm inside of the display. So getting a glass protector smaller than the screen size will give you an annoying vertical physical lines, getting a glass that fit the display will give you a halo effect because the edge didn't stick.
I do have a standard plastic screen protector, but I haven't use that yet. I hope that one doesn't give me nightmares.
Use 2.5d tempered glass.

Dragontail glass?!?! Do I need a tempered glass screen protector?

So Google chose to go with Dragontail Glass rather than Gorilla Glass... How is it standing up? Is it worth it to get a tempered glass screen protector with it? And which Dragontail Glass is it, regular, X or Pro?
I haven't used a screen protector in years, mostly carry it in my shirt pocket and pants pocket by itself with nothing else, and haven't had any noticeable scratches or issues with the screen... I did order a simple Ringke Fusion case, but is a tempered glass screen protector really needed anymore?
I guess it is personal preference.
I still always use a tempered glass screen protector on my phones. I don't feel like they negatively affect the way I interact with the screen and Dragontail/Gorilla glass will still scratch. I also think it helps protect the screen if the phone is dropped. So for me, there is no downside and plenty of upside.
I put one on my XL as soon as it was unboxed. It actually has a crack in the screen protector right now - I think due to the fact that the phone flexes a little. I bought a box of 4 protectors, but I simply haven't had a chance to replace it yet. I'm not sure that whatever caused the screen protector to crack would have been enough to crack the phones screen if I didn't have the protector on it (I doubt that it would have - as I think it happened while the phone was in my pocket) but certainly having the screen protector on the phone helped strengthen the phone and prevented it from flexing as much as it would have without one.
Same hardness as the gorilla glass so if you weren't having scratching problems with naked gorilla you wont have problems with this screen. It does score lower than gorilla on bending break tests, there is a specific name for that test but I don't recall it. At an rate that isn't helped with glass screen protectors so you should be able to continue your naked ways without concern. I'm with you BTW, haven't used one in years and haven't had any problems.
krabman said:
Same hardness as the gorilla glass so if you weren't having scratching problems with naked gorilla you wont have problems with this screen. It does score lower than gorilla on bending break tests, there is a specific name for that test but I don't recall it. At an rate that isn't helped with glass screen protectors so you should be able to continue your naked ways without concern. I'm with you BTW, haven't used one in years and haven't had any problems.
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Yeah, I've never had scratch issues before... Even after 2 years the screen is basically perfect. Thanks for confirming my hopes.
Like krabman said, it's the same hardness as Gorilla Glass. It might not be as likely to survive a drop as GG though.
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