So I know that right now to go back to stable from the beta you'll need to use the rollback release and then wipe (blah blah blah); but what I'm really wondering is this: so say that I join the beta. Whenever the stable Oreo finally releases, would I be able to flash the new stable Oreo over the beta? Or would I need to do a wipe? Also, would the last Oreo beta be a "stable", or would that channel just be beta until the support for the phone is dropped? Sorry for the dumb questions, just really couldn't find an answer.
Nobodyslight said:
So I know that right now to go back to stable from the beta you'll need to use the rollback release and then wipe (blah blah blah); but what I'm really wondering is this: so say that I join the beta. Whenever the stable Oreo finally releases, would I be able to flash the new stable Oreo over the beta? Or would I need to do a wipe? Also, would the last Oreo beta be a "stable", or would that channel just be beta until the support for the phone is dropped? Sorry for the dumb questions, just really couldn't find an answer.
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I have another question, will they keep releasing beta versions now that there is a stable version out? Really my question is that is there any reason to stay on the beta builds, now that there is a stable release.
I would think that there would be more beta releases, otherwise why would they release ob3, then a day later release the stable?
ginger709 said:
I have another question, will they keep releasing beta versions now that there is a stable version out? Really my question is that is there any reason to stay on the beta builds, now that there is a stable release.
I would think that there would be more beta releases, otherwise why would they release ob3, then a day later release the stable?
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I don't think the stable build rolling out now has all the features that the open beta 3 has. I assume the beta builds are still going to continue and be pertinent.
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Hey everyone,
I joined the beta program to get onto 8.1 but am now realizing that Snoke and Flash kernel both only work on 8.0, and am worried that if I stay on the beta I will continue to miss out on future kernels. Leaving the beta program would require me to downgrade and lose all my data, so is there a way that I can leave the beta program but stay on 8.1 until the official release comes out then stay on the official releases after that? If the official release comes out and both the beta and official channels are on the same release, would leaving the beta cause me to lose all data?
Thanks in advance.
I've enrolled in the beta program and am currently on beta 2, do beta enrollers also get final update? So potentially i could skip beta updates until the final has gone OTA in case of any bugs?
Yes you will get the final build and than you can unenroll without wiping.
gm007 said:
Yes you will get the final build and than you can unenroll without wiping.
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Thank you that's great to know, will unenroll when the final has aired.
Hi all,
I've searched the forum but couldn't find an answer.
I'm currently on Android 9 beta 33 (OP5T). We all know OnePlus stopped the beta program for my device a few weeks ago.
My question is simple: when Android 10 stable is released for OP5(T), will I be able to upgrade directly to the new OS without wiping out my data?
Thanks a lot.
Jeff
Probably, you may have to take a risk as it will be a dirty flash.
DJslashEF said:
Hi all,
I've searched the forum but couldn't find an answer.
I'm currently on Android 9 beta 33 (OP5T). We all know OnePlus stopped the beta program for my device a few weeks ago.
My question is simple: when Android 10 stable is released for OP5(T), will I be able to upgrade directly to the new OS without wiping out my data?
Thanks a lot.
Jeff
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I'm afraid the short answer to your question is no.
Moving from Beta to Stable channel has always required a clean flash, even if it were from Pie Beta to Pie Stable.
Given that Android 10 for the 5T is set to release in Q2 (tentative), you have a lot of time to switch back to the Stable OOS 9 and get set for the OS update.
NO. You should clean flash it
Thanks for your replies.
Anyway, after deeper search on the web, I realized that OnePlus provides roll back builds along with their betas. I know, I should have dig a little deeper as this mentioned in every beta thread.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...us-5-and-open-beta-33-for-oneplus-5t.1063328/
I used it and am now on stable Oos.
Aside from one being stable and the other as a beta, are all the features the same? I have an unrooted Pixel 6 Pro running the latter, but I don't want to set everything up again if I unenroll from the beta program and download the 12L stable version.
Eduardo1974 said:
Aside from one being stable and the other as a beta, are all the features the same? I have an unrooted Pixel 6 Pro running the latter, but I don't want to set everything up again if I unenroll from the beta program and download the 12L stable version.
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I am on the beta don't see any difference between them. My Pixel 6 Pro is also not rooted.
I agree with their stability. I was on rooted on beta 1 and then flashed stable (rooted) for a day before updating to beta 1.1 and so far they're identical in terms of daily stability. No issues on either.
Anyone noticed better Bluetooth with QPR3 builds? I'm currently on stable 12.1
I've had nothing but trouble with just my car Bluetooth and my P6 Pro (other Bluetooth has been ok). Other phones connect fine and.play correctly, with my Pixel it's hit and miss if it auto connects, often get dropouts, song names no longer show correctly or keep up with song changes on Spotify etc.
Drives me nuts!
I have started having BT connectivity issues with my Garmin watch since the stable March drop. The connection would drop and only restarting the phone brings it back.
Otherwise, the update is stable and it may have improved battery life a bit.
Eduardo1974 said:
Aside from one being stable and the other as a beta, are all the features the same? I have an unrooted Pixel 6 Pro running the latter, but I don't want to set everything up again if I unenroll from the beta program and download the 12L stable version.
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This is one difference between Stable and QPR3 Beta 1.1 that may make a difference to you...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1507397884941115428
Probably unrelated, but I installed a13 DP2 , went back to stable 12L , then got an ota for a13 DP2. I wasnt enrolled in the beta program at the time. Go figure.
Lughnasadh said:
This is one difference between Stable and QPR3 Beta 1.1 that may make a difference to you...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1507397884941115428
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FWIW; Freak also backported the Direct USB Access to the 12L Stable in his latest Kernel.
vassosman said:
FWIW; Freak also backported the Direct USB Access to the 12L Stable in his latest Kernel.
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Wanting to possibly try out android 13 beta I've heard great things about it and it being stable . If I install it, how do I go from the beta to the official OTA. I would be installing the beta OTA but don't know how to install the official OTA when it comes out. Do I just opt out of the beta program then recieve the official OTA ? Thanks for any help
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Wanting to possibly try out android 13 beta I've heard great things about it and it being stable . If I install it, how do I go from the beta to the official OTA. I would be installing the beta OTA but don't know how to install the official OTA when it comes out. Do I just opt out of the beta program then recieve the official OTA ? Thanks for any help
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Once the 1st stable version of Android 13 is released (should be early August), there should be a window where you can opt out and then receive the stable version of Android 13 without having to wipe.
Redbeardkevv said:
Wanting to possibly try out android 13 beta I've heard great things about it and it being stable . If I install it, how do I go from the beta to the official OTA. I would be installing the beta OTA but don't know how to install the official OTA when it comes out. Do I just opt out of the beta program then recieve the official OTA ? Thanks for any help
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You don't have to do anything. BETA will end when the official comes out and you will get that OTA just like any other OTA.
Ok so I don't have to opt out of the beta?
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Ok so I don't have to opt out of the beta?
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I believe that is correct because there will be no Android 13 betas after that. I've read others who said their next OTA after the last Beta would take them to the final version. The next beta after that will probably be for the QPR1 and would have to be signed up for separately.
Edit: I meant to add that I am a little cautious, so I would probably choose to manually opt-out, anyway.
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Ok so I don't have to opt out of the beta?
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I've read that if you don't opt out of the beta after stable Android 13 is released that you'll start getting the QPR betas for Android 13, for what it's worth. Excerpt below...
Get Android 13 Beta on a Google Pixel device
"Once enrolled, your device will receive regular over-the-air (OTA) updates for the duration of the platform’s release cycle—including Quarterly Platform Releases (QPRs)—unless you opt out earlier.
During the Android Beta for Pixel program’s release cycle, there are four stable releases to the public (the official platform release followed by three Quarterly Platform Releases). When you apply a stable release update, you can opt out of future Beta updates without a data wipe for a limited time (until you apply the next beta update, if you choose to do so)."
Get Android 13 | Android Developers
Get an Android 13 on your eligible device.
developer.android.com
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"Once enrolled, your device will receive regular over-the-air (OTA) updates for the duration of the platform’s release cycle—including Quarterly Platform Releases (QPRs)—unless you opt out earlier.
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Interesting. I did mean to add that I'm a little cautious, so I would probably choose to manually opt-out anyway.
I think the way they word it is funny. They say QPRs, but they don't say QPR Beta (although the next part does mention Beta). Like, if you're on Stable, of course you're going to get the QPR (when it goes Final).
So just run the beta and opt out before August so I know that I'll get the final release in August??
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Interesting. I did mean to add that I'm a little cautious, so I would probably choose to manually opt-out anyway.
I think the way they word it is funny. They say QPRs, but they don't say QPR Beta (although the next part does mention Beta). Like, if you're on Stable, of course you're going to get the QPR (when it goes Final).
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Yeah, the wording is a bit confusing. But since it was all in the section under "Get Android 13 Beta on a Google Pixel Device", I'm assuming they were talking about QPR betas.
They've also said the Android 13 beta program will end in June 2023, so that would suggest that the QPR betas would be included. June 2023 should be when the final stable version of QPR3 (Android 13) will be released so that's why the program would end then, like it did in June this year for the QPR betas for Android 12.
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So just run the beta and opt out before August so I know that I'll get the final release in August??
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If you opt out before August then you'll be getting the stable version of Android 12 since the stable version of Android 13 would not have been released yet. I've seen reports of people having lots of problems when opting out of A13 beta and getting A12 stable. You would also have to wipe.
You should opt out during the window right after the 1st stable version of Android 13 is released, which should be in early August.
The only reason I would opt out of the a13 beta is to get the stable final release , not to go back to 12.. thanks sounds like I should opt out right after final is released , then I'll get the final OTA..
Here's another excerpt from their Beta FAQ section. To me it sounds like there will not be a separate QPR Beta program like there was for Android 12:
"Enrolled devices will receive continuous beta updates for the duration of the platform’s release cycle including Quarterly Platform Releases (QPRs) ahead of the public release schedule, unless you choose to opt out sooner.
Android 13 beta program ends in June 2023 with the public release of the Android June QPR and Pixel Feature Drop"
There's also this:
"You can expect to receive up to two updates automatically per month for each program you’re enrolled in. Note: You will not receive separate monthly security updates while enrolled in the program as they will be part of the beta build"
Note: Of course, I could be interpreting this totally wrong
Android Beta Program
Android Beta Program allows you to enroll your Android device for beta releases.
www.google.com
Maybe I'll just wait till final OTA push in August it's not to far away to wait instead of messing with beta..