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No Official Marshmallow Support for T-Mobile Note 3.

T-Mobile list of devices being updated to Marshmallow.
http://androidspin.com/2015/10/05/t-mobile-details-which-devices-will-see-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Samsung
Galaxy S5
Galaxy S6
Galaxy S6 Edge
Galaxy S6 Edge+
Galaxy Note 4
Galaxy Note 5
Galaxy Tab S2

Can anyone here say they're really surprised?...

Not surprised at all, guess it's time to get a GN5 or a GS6. :good:

Figures.
Well, unless Sammy puts the micro SD slot back in the Note devices I'll be jumping ship.

Not surprised, but sad! Maybe its time to try the Motorola X pure 2015 edition or the Nexus 6P.

Honestly, it would be nice to have, but this phone is now a full two years old. I think it's time we stop expecting Samsung to spend time upgrading us to the latest version of Android. They upgraded us to Lollipop, which I think they had some obligation to do, but I don't think we can expect them to keep doing so indefinitely.
As for my Note 3, It has started to show its age. I think I will be retiring it in the next few months. I have no idea what phone I'll get next. Maybe the iPhone 6.
LOL j/k.

I'd be happy with a damn 5.1 update to address the memory leak. It's insulting to stop updating on such a crappy revision.

As long as other snapdragons 800 keep getting updates I dont see any problem.

Paranoid, AOKP, Cyanogen, Slim, OmniROM, Dirty Unicorns, Darklord's ports! Who need Samsung? N3 is 2 years old, but it's still a beast.

Cancar96 said:
As long as other snapdragons 800 keep getting updates I dont see any problem.
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I would like an official release of 5.1.1 from T-Mobile so I can have the latest fixes & updates + the ability to continue using Wi-Fi calling

madquack said:
Not surprised at all, guess it's time to get a GN5 or a GS6. :good:
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I guess I'm not surprised, but I am very disappointed. The industry is really bad right now. I mean you only support one year of releases? The current Note 5, and last years Note 4? Sad. With how good phone have been in the last three or even four years they are more than capable to support a new OS. The Note 3 is still a powerhouse, and will probably be so for another three years at least. I'm thankful for the dev community, so at least we can still get the latest OS/ROMs with custom ones.

There is to be a grain of salt taken with this info, but...
http://www.justaboutphones.com/galaxy-s5-alpha-note-3-s4-android-5-1-1-lollipop-update/
According to the image, the 5.1.1 update is in testing for the Note 3 and will be finished sometime in November. I realize we won't get Marshmallow (which is fine with me, even though the Note 3 is more than capable of running it.) I'm just glad (hopeful, more like it) that we'll (maybe) get the 5.1.1 update. Once that gets old and the phone is truly non-supported, then I'll consider rooting and installing a custom rom on this unit.
Fingers crossed!

It pisses me off, is what it does, no 5.1.1 yet for this high $$$ device, its all about the damn money. I am not phone hopping any longer. My wife still has the device, and I can do nothing with it.....sad is what it is......
Not everyone has $800+ to spend on a phone every 6mo. sheez....

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dirtybudha said:
Figures.
Well, unless Sammy puts the micro SD slot back in the Note devices I'll be jumping ship.
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AxAtAx said:
It pisses me off, is what it does, no 5.1.1 yet for this high $$$ device, its all about the damn money. I am not phone hopping any longer. My wife still has the device, and I can do nothing with it.....sad is what it is......
Not everyone has $800+ to spend on a phone every 6mo. sheez....
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I just upgraded to the Note 4 for far less than $800 dollars. You don't have to get the newest released device in order to upgrade. And the Note 4 will get Marshmallow.

Techngro said:
I just upgraded to the Note 4 for far less than $800 dollars. You don't have to get the newest released device in order to upgrade. And the Note 4 will get Marshmallow.
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The note 4 will get marshmallow when android "N" is on the corner. So why spend money to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 if both of them are not getting upgraded to the latest android before android N is released (quater 2 or quarter 3 2016), when there would be a new wave of devices? Only newest samsung device can get upgrade in a timely manner.
So for those who are desperate for newest version of android, either get a nexus phone or upgrade to the newest device every year. Otherwise just stick with the old phone for two or three years and then buy the newest phone.
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The note 4 will get marshmallow when android "N" is on the corner. So why spend money to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 if both of them are not getting upgraded to the latest android before android N is released (quater 2 or quarter 3 2016), when there would be a new wave of devices? Only newest samsung device can get upgrade in a timely manner.
So for those who are desperate for newest version of android, either get a nexus phone or upgrade to the newest device every year. Otherwise just stick with the old phone for two or three years and then buy the newest phone.
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That's not really true. T-Mobile released the Lollipop update for the Note 3 only 6 months after it was announced by Google. And don't forget that the T-Mobile Note 3 got the Lollipop update before the Note 4 did. That's pretty damn good in terms of supporting older devices. And I totally expect the Marshmallow update for the Note 4 to be in the same time frame.
So I'd rather pay $400 every two years and have at least one upgrade to the most recent Android version, rather than wait three years and pay $800 to get the same version and then have the same problem of waiting three years again for the Android update cycle and the manufacturer phone release cycle to line up again.

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That's not really true. T-Mobile release the Lollipop update for the Note 3 only 6 months after it was announced by Google. And don't forget that the T-Mobile Note 3 got the Lollipop update before the Note 4 did. That's pretty damn good in terms of supporting older devices. And I totally expect the Marshmallow update for the Note 4 to be in the same time frame.
So I'd rather pay $400 every two years and have at least one upgrade to the most recent Android version, rather than wait three years and pay $800 to get the same version and then have the same problem of waiting three years again for the Android update cycle and the manufacturer phone release cycle to line up again.
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Option 1(your option): upgrade from note 3 to note 4 and paying $400, you get a note 4 which can get the last upgrade to marshmallow around April, then become outdatrd again in September, you can enjoy 4 or 5 months of latest android. Marshmallow will be the last update for note 4, just like lollipop is the last update for note 3.
Option 2: hold the note 3, then next year around April, you can upgrade to note 5 for about $400, which will have marshmallow already. So for the same $400, you get a better phone which can be upgraded to android N in 2017.
Which option is better? Clearly, no point to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 at this time, Nov 2015.
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googlephone said:
Option 1(your option): upgrade from note 3 to note 4 and paying $400, you get a note 4 which can get the last upgrade to marshmallow around April, then become outdatrd again in September, you can enjoy 4 or 5 months of latest android. Marshmallow will be the last update for note 4, just like lollipop is the last update for note 3.
Option 2: hold the note 3, then next year around April, you can upgrade to note 5 for about $400, which will have marshmallow already. So for the same $400, you get a better phone which can be upgraded to android N in 2017.
Which option is better? Clearly, no point to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 at this time, Nov 2015.
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Again, assuming that there is a similar upgrade cycle for the Note 5 as there was for the Note 3 vs the Note 4, the Note 4 will get Marshmallow before the Note 5. In addition, the Note 5 won't be $400 in April. That would still be 6 months from the release of the Note 6, so it would be around $600. So you pay $600 for a Note 5 when for 6 months and $200 more you can get the Newer release? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense now, does it?
In any case, the point is that people in this thread are complaining about not getting Marshmallow on the Note 3. Well, if you want Marshmallow, then you have to upgrade. You're going to have to do it eventually. That's why I would rather upgrade now, and get a better performing phone in addition to the comfort of knowing that I will in fact get Marshmallow. Or people can wait and keep whining about what they already know they aren't going to get.

Another security update in April(no oreo update yet)

We're waiting for the Oreo update but it doesnt seem to be coming anytime soon.
Just another security update.
Maintenance update: https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/126135

Last night my XT1670 retla was updated to the security patch of January 1st. Still Android 7.0, but waiting for Oreo...

And I received january security patch today (XT1671 RETLA)

Di you notice any changes in behavior?

On reteu also the same update

I already got the march patch some days ago, retbr

Maybe Android Oreo will be released in April 19th, 2018. It's the announcement date of Moto G6 Play, Moto G6 and Moto G6 Plus.

Ramonms98 said:
Maybe Android Oreo will be released in April 19th, 2018. It's the announcement date of Moto G6 Play, Moto G6 and Moto G6 Plus.
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That's really bad news because if we don't get the update before G6 launch we'll probably never see oreo on the G5, it's going be forgotten by lenovo.

XJeFX said:
That's really bad news because if we don't get the update before G6 launch we'll probably never see oreo on the G5, it's going be forgotten by lenovo.
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They will update the Moto G5 Series to 8.0.0.

Today i've got march security update in Germany. Two security updates in 3 weeks, but no oreo

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They will update the Moto G5 Series to 8.0.0.
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they said the same for the G4 series and then didn't even updated to nougat as of today, 2 years+ later.

They updated Moto G4 series Unlocked variants to 7.0 and 7.1.1

The worst ever software update service i ever had. Thought samsung was the worst. But its non other than Moto. I bought this phone just because... Thinking that it will be stock Android, it will update quickly.. and will have better support. Moto used to be ahead of evey other , right behind nexus / pixel devices in terms of software update. But soon after Lenovo acquired moto, software update is a nightmare for every single moto phone.
You may have seen xda portal news about moto g6 series. Well they too wont be getting much support either.
I bought this phone as my secondary phone... I will give this to mom and will buy something like xiaomi note 5 or Zenfone pro m1 . I have a pixel 2 xl as primary.. evey time it gets update notification... I desperately check software update on this too. Now its on march 1 security update. I am looking forward to 64bit official os. Hope Lenovo will do it atlest in two years.
Btw.. i had only one phone from Lenovo ever before. A6000 just 3 days after i bought it its vibration motor stopped!! And when i searched for the reason , i figured out that it was one of their common problems. So i thought to put in some local vibrator motor from local market.. as going and waiting for service is too time consuming. When i opened the phone. I was literally shocked by the quality of the pcb construction.. it was like cheep chineese phones.. soo bad construction .. lol.. they dont even care to put rf sheilds and cheep quality wires and speakers. Literally... Some Chinese manufacturers make better pcb.. If you compare that pcb with something like nokia 1110 ( ya a phone from almost 10 years back) . Nokia's pcb is still the winner. !! Generations ahead.. still .. That day i decided.. i will never buy a Lenovo product again. And I didn't even care to go to local market and buy a vibration motor for that phone.. i closed it. And after a week, gifted to a friend.
Lol.. p20 and p20 pro.. good they sealed it. Donno what will be inside.

I also bought moto to get quick updates and I think, best solution to get oreo is installing custom rom and voiding warranty. That's so funny, lenovo can't still release oreo, but custom roms are on 8.1

Asus zenfone 5z android updates and monthly security patches

Couple of days back I bought asus zenfone 5z. But, to my surprise it is still running 8.0... With security patch of June 5!! This is how asus deals with its flagship?
Will asus provide monthly security patches Atleast once in two or three months ?
What about 8.1.0 one plus 6 Is already has a android P beta but we are still stuck with 8.0. Is it wise to return this device and getting a one plus 6.
But from features, performance and value for money this is better device than one plus 6.
Is it really worth to have a android device with stock like experience with updates or a full fledged device which is stuck with some Android version.
Correct me if I am wrong I feel android major updates which Google releases every year changes are mostely done on above layers and not much on kernal level exception in case if the processor or hw is changed. If consider xiomi they already have most of the useful features in their ui which Google has provided in 8.0.
Neverthles atleast flagship which are more expensive in my openion should have proper updates from OEM atleast for two years which is not the case.
Please let me know your experience with Asus in termed of device support for Android updates I consider moving on instead of getting stuck with old os which no one cares.

They said they give 1 patch in 2 month for 2 year nd 2 year os upgrade

sk229391 said:
They said they give 1 patch in 2 month for 2 year nd 1 os upgrade only
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But the zenfone 3 for example has gone from 6.0 to 8.0

They said like 2 year os upgrade if they release two os in that time we will get it.

Where did they say this at
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They said like 2 year os upgrade if they release two os in that time we will get it.
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OP expects too much. Samsung doesn't even release updates that fast. OnePlus is closer to stock Android and is easier to implent into upgrades.

Yeah, this is the reason we are not even worried about the Samsung and will never bother to buy one.
How good is asus in updates aspects, just asking as this is my first asus device to have.

suraj051 said:
Yeah, this is the reason we are not even worried about the Samsung and will never bother to buy one.
How good is asus in updates aspects, just asking as this is my first asus device to have.
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Asus typically does 2 month intervals with the security patches.

Next update will be huge
I really think the next update will be huge
a) August security patch
b) Navigation gesture.
But it is high time they launch ZenUI based on Asus Zenfone Max Pro of India on all their phone. It is also called ZenUI and it is so close to stock. It feels really odd that the expensive model dont have latest stock UI

Which is the latest os version for Zenfone 5z?

mannulko said:
Which is the latest os version for Zenfone 5z?
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8.0

General Support opinion

Want to open a general discussion about international support.
In the past few years Nubia have promised updates to its Red magic 3 series phone.
They have kept that promise, but only in China. China roms having a few Android 10 updates and even Android 11 on the RED Magic 3. But Only in China.
Internationally the Red Magic 3 received the latest version of Android 9. Then was abandond by Nubia international.
The Red Magic 5 series Devices seem to be following this same trend. After over 4 nearly 5 months of China having an Android 11 Rom for this device, internationally the Red Magic is still on an old 4 month old Android 10 update.
We dont know what Nubia will do with its next phone, but if the trend continues the 6 will be left behind like the rest in the series. Unless you're happy to install china roms but thats a different story.
I'd like your opinions on this. Would you buy a phone that will only see a few months at best of software support?
The red magic 3 had gotten 10 months of support.
The red magic 5s in particular had 2 months of official support, 5g 9 months.
How long in your opinion will the Red magic 6 be supported?

According to what is happening in the previous Red magic phone, looks that nubia is going to do the same thing, just support for china but not international and is really disappointed to buy an amazing gaming phone with poor support of software. Red magic international support just said we have planned to release Android 11 but we don't have the exact date and is the message they give us when asking about Android 11, Nubia don't forget your international costumers please!!!

They don't deserve our money, half a year of support is not even near what I was thinking when i bought this device. Never again Nubia

Need Global rom for Red magic 6 Pro

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Need Global rom for Red magic 6 Pro
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same here, I'm suffering on chinese rom, cannot change launcher etc

My phone won't connect to data cell and rext work though any thoughts

Phew, so it seems you guys are already having lots of issues, with the 6!was really looking forward to getting this phone but the never ending negative, user experience comments, are putting me right off.

For those who have bought the device, does the red magic moment (recording), work for PUBG? It stopped working for older devices in Feb when PUBG 1.2 came.

Nubia is a sh*t company with very poor support on any level. I just ordered my 6 Pro and it will be here by Monday according to Fed Ex. I was very leary but that 16 gigs of Ram was just too tempting. Ill report back here as soon as I get my 6 Pro in hand. I can definitively say that customer support is a big fat zero. That alone almost turned me away but I bit the bullet and ordered anyways.

Automatic light dimmer

Hey folks
I bought my first M20X in November 2018.
It was crashed ½ year ago, so sad.
Then I bought a Samsung s21 ultra, had it 1 month, did not like Sammy any longer, hate the OS and the display size hmmm to small.
Then I got my xiaomi mi 11 ultra 1½month ago, I liked it better then the S21u BUT missed my good old M20X which still is a hardcore phone in my eyes.
I bought a new one 8gb 256gm Chinese version with a global rom on Aliexpress
It work absolutely 100% like my old global M20X Hong Kong version, no Chinese stuff at all.
It surprised me the M20X forum still is active here.. Awesome, not much, but still.
Big story yes, for a tiny question.
Every time I restart my M20X is set as automatic light dimmer grrrrr, don't want that.
I remember the same problem in 2018, but how to fix it, I don't remember and can't find anything about it...
Anyone in here know what to do ??

Rly no one in here have a solution?

BigDisplay said:
Rly no one in here have a solution?
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Hey
Thx but I have the highest update you can get to this phone. And I'm happy for this, because it gives me all i need. I don't even use my xiaomi mi 11 ultra... I had it for around 3 weeks now, but this tiny display is hard to work with
And most amazing part I got 2 security updates the last 5-6 weeks, it surprised me a lot

BigDisplay said:
Hey
Thx but I have the highest update you can get to this phone. And I'm happy for this, because it gives me all i need. I don't even use my xiaomi mi 11 ultra... I had it for around 3 weeks now, but this tiny display is hard to work with
And most amazing part I got 2 security updates the last 5-6 weeks, it surprised me a lot
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Hey,
Kinda confused here. Do you have the chinese version? Because I noticed you have 11.0.0.155. But I'm on 11.0.0.142 on C636. How were you able to get 155 when i dont?

Hi
Yes i have a Chinese version 256gb 8gb EU rom version and I bought it on Aliexpress like this.
So it's really a upgrade vs my first M20X C636 Hong Kong version
Took 3 weeks to be delivered.
And as I told, I still get security updates for it
Take a look
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOjxkpz

BigDisplay said:
Yes i have a Chinese version 256gb 8gb EU rom version and I bought it on Aliexpress like this.
So it's really a upgrade vs my first M20X C636 Hong Kong version
Took 3 weeks to be delivered.
And as I told, I still get security updates for it
Take a look
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOjxkpz
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Ok thats what i thought.
Today I tried the samsung note 20 ultra at a store. I have to admit it looks very good! It may be a bit smaller than the 20x but its still a big phone with an amazing sharp bright screen. I'm very tempted into selling my 20x and buying the note 20 ultra instead. Very tempted.

I understand you, tried the same with S21 ultra BUT, for me the display is much smaller and the battery time sucks big time vs M20X and that's enough for me to go back to my beloved M20X.
And I think the same will happen with Mi 11 ultra. When I compare speed etc, I don't feel any big difference at all. So M20X is still 95% up to date.
But wish you good luck then