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lte+/4g+ carrier aggregation support?????

Does anyone getting CA/LTE+ support on their RN 5 pro. Its mentioned on their website that device supports CA/4G+, but m not getting the CA support in the area where I used to get it on LeMax 2.

Same problem here with the redmi 5 plus.
According to miui forums, carrier aggregation with bands 3+7 doesn't work with xiaomi phones.
This seems to be a bug that has been going on for years with xiaomi phones, and xiaomi doesn't seem to be giving any feedback on this issue.
If you can get some feedback from xiaomi, please report back here. Thanks.

rajat.raj01 said:
Does anyone getting CA/LTE+ support on their RN 5 pro. Its mentioned on their website that device supports CA/4G+, but m not getting the CA support in the area where I used to get it on LeMax 2.
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I thought the CA is volte support. Do you have global version and what country are you in?

CA (aggregation of multiple bands) and volte (voice over lte = the connection won't switch to 3g during a call, but remain in 4g) are two different things. Volte works with as well as without CA.

Mediatek devices don't support Non-Continguous carrier aggregation

Did anyone notice that all mediatek devices/chipsets even the recent G90T, G95, G85, or P-Series etc do not have
Intra-band Non-Contiguous CA (Carrier Aggregation) and
Inter-band Carrier Aggregation in them ?? except for the latest and recently launched Dimensity mediatek series. Most of their devices only have 1 type of Carrier Aggregation, even the latest phones launched with G80, G90T, G95; they only have simple intra-band Contiguous CA type implemented in them. I checked several phones and tested with different operators as well and only one type of Carrier Aggregation implementation is done by mediatek devices while snapdragon has better even on 600-series SOCs, etc.
Isn't this sort of silently being cheated by the mediatek ??. let us just take one SOC... as per mediatek G90T specs on its site it says 3xCA, 4x4 MIMO, 256QAM and speeds upto 1Gbps if you look up the pdf for same G90T series on their product page.
I searched a lot but still couldn't find any info or if anyone is getting other 2 Carrier Aggregation types working for them. But they have started offering all 3 types of CA after Dimensity 5G SOC series. I do understand that not all is offered as per the specs which involves other licensing stuff etc but still this is not right when compared to snapdragon devices. Its sort of like info related to which types of Carrier Aggregation is supported on devices is hid to users and user experiences speed issues related to 4G+ and its related and looking for means to unlock bands or CA types on Software levels which are sort of None for mediatek devices compared to Snapdragon when hardware itself is not support on mediatek.
Can you guys check if your mediatek devices older than dimensity supports Intraband Non-Continuous or inter-band CA ?. using any service mode/code or apps like Netmonster, etc. Do post screenshot if possible.
For those who are not aware or complaining Netmoster doesn't show proper CA info, Netmonster app just shows "LTE-A 2300" for Intraband Contiguous CA (Type 1 CA) along with 4G+ symbol on status bar for 40C;
"LTE-A 2300+2300" will be shown if a Intraband Non-Contiguous (Type 2 CA) is working on device. However this 2nd will not be shown monstly on mediatek devices on non-dimensity devices.

I maintain large database of supported Carrier Aggregation combinations cacombos.com. There you can check different devices combinations support.
Netmonster app is not accurate because it only show connected state and it doesn't always show right. Best way is collect modem log and read it to find supported Carrier Aggregation combinations.
There is also Helio -series modem support non-contiguous CA example: https://cacombos.com/device/CPH1951

olkitu said:
I maintain large database of supported Carrier Aggregation combinations cacombos.com. There you can check different devices combinations support.
Netmonster app is not accurate because it only show connected state and it doesn't always show right. Best way is collect modem log and read it to find supported Carrier Aggregation combinations.
There is also Helio -series modem support non-contiguous CA example: https://cacombos.com/device/CPH1951
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ya I'm already aware of your site.

neol said:
Did anyone notice that all mediatek devices/chipsets even the recent G90T, G95, G85, or P-Series etc do not have
Intra-band Non-Contiguous CA (Carrier Aggregation) and
Inter-band Carrier Aggregation in them ?? except for the latest and recently launched Dimensity mediatek series. Most of their devices only have 1 type of Carrier Aggregation, even the latest phones launched with G80, G90T, G95; they only have simple intra-band Contiguous CA type implemented in them. I checked several phones and tested with different operators as well and only one type of Carrier Aggregation implementation is done by mediatek devices while snapdragon has better even on 600-series SOCs, etc.
Isn't this sort of silently being cheated by the mediatek ??. let us just take one SOC... as per mediatek G90T specs on its site it says 3xCA, 4x4 MIMO, 256QAM and speeds upto 1Gbps if you look up the pdf for same G90T series on their product page.
I searched a lot but still couldn't find any info or if anyone is getting other 2 Carrier Aggregation types working for them. But they have started offering all 3 types of CA after Dimensity 5G SOC series. I do understand that not all is offered as per the specs which involves other licensing stuff etc but still this is not right when compared to snapdragon devices. Its sort of like info related to which types of Carrier Aggregation is supported on devices is hid to users and user experiences speed issues related to 4G+ and its related and looking for means to unlock bands or CA types on Software levels which are sort of None for mediatek devices compared to Snapdragon when hardware itself is not support on mediatek.
Can you guys check if your mediatek devices older than dimensity supports Intraband Non-Continuous or inter-band CA ?. using any service mode/code or apps like Netmonster, etc. Do post screenshot if possible.
For those who are not aware or complaining Netmoster doesn't show proper CA info, Netmonster app just shows "LTE-A 2300" for Intraband Contiguous CA (Type 1 CA) along with 4G+ symbol on status bar for 40C;
"LTE-A 2300+2300" will be shown if a Intraband Non-Contiguous (Type 2 CA) is working on device. However this 2nd will not be shown monstly on mediatek devices on non-dimensity devices.
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Hi man, i am not highly technical person but i need help. I am using poco m4 pro 4G (g96) version which is 4G+ supported phone but it doesn't show 4g+ in status bar when mobile data turned on. While my 3 years old redmi note 8 pro showing 4g+ in exact same place exact same network sim card etc. I have tried messing with Apns and engineering mode settings but everything seems fine. i also checked in net monster app and poco is not combining bands while redmi note 8 is doing it so. i have tried installing other region roms as well but issue is still same.. Any idea what's going on?

Question AT&T and International/EU 9 Pro

So, I have been watching the 9 Pro as my next phone (upgrading from HTC U12+), but am really disappointed in a couple of things: (1) it appears there is no plan to certify the US version for AT&T 5G, and (2) no Astral Black for the US.
Since the 5G aspect is unlikely to change anytime soon, and AT&T 5G isn't really all that great anyway from what I hear, is there any downside to buying an EU Astral Black model and using it in the US? I'm still researching all the bands, but it appears the EU model is only missing two LTE bands in use by AT&T (Bands 29 and 30). To be fair, the US version is also missing Band 29 for the 700MHz spectrum, but does contain support for Band 30 at 2300MHz.
I'm going to log which bands are being used where I live and work but, if I will be limited to 4G/LTE anyway, I'm not seeing a downside to buying the EU version. Am I overlooking something? Any thoughts, suggestions, or input is greatly appreciated.

EU has additional options that neither the TMO or US int models have. At&t is behind on 5g deployments anyway so you shouldn't miss out on much, Verizon and TMO would've been better for that. As far as general reqs go, I don't see why not.

mawoods75 said:
So, I have been watching the 9 Pro as my next phone (upgrading from HTC U12+), but am really disappointed in a couple of things: (1) it appears there is no plan to certify the US version for AT&T 5G, and (2) no Astral Black for the US.
Since the 5G aspect is unlikely to change anytime soon, and AT&T 5G isn't really all that great anyway from what I hear, is there any downside to buying an EU Astral Black model and using it in the US? I'm still researching all the bands, but it appears the EU model is only missing two LTE bands in use by AT&T (Bands 29 and 30). To be fair, the US version is also missing Band 29 for the 700MHz spectrum, but does contain support for Band 30 at 2300MHz.
I'm going to log which bands are being used where I live and work but, if I will be limited to 4G/LTE anyway, I'm not seeing a downside to buying the EU version. Am I overlooking something? Any thoughts, suggestions, or input is greatly appreciated.
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As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.

toolhas4degrees said:
As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
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I believe that is true - I just want to make sure I'm not inadvertently limiting myself with 4G/LTE coverage by buying the EU version. I don't really care around home/work, as there is usually wifi available. My bigger concern would be coverage in my home area that might get dropped now due to the EU version missing a band that is available on the US version. Or, perhaps when traveling if the EU version is missing bands that other networks (roaming) may use.

mawoods75 said:
I believe that is true - I just want to make sure I'm not inadvertently limiting myself with 4G/LTE coverage by buying the EU version. I don't really care around home/work, as there is usually wifi available. My bigger concern would be coverage in my home area that might get dropped now due to the EU version missing a band that is available on the US version. Or, perhaps when traveling if the EU version is missing bands that other networks (roaming) may use.
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I have dual sims, straight talk att sim and t mobile sim. Att sim works fine no drop but no 5g, simple mobile -TMobile 5g,4g, I have the Chinese varient with eu firmware

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As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
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You are correct. I call ATT about once a week asking if they're going to certify/whitelist OnePlus devices. I figure the more complaints they get, the more they'll be inclined to investigate it.
To add to this, most people I speak to have never even heard of OnePlus, which makes the conversation troublesome. Be completely prepared for ATT employees to feed you bad information, say your device isn't compatible (does not have the required hardware), is inferior to Samsung/Motorola/iPhone, and try to sell you a new phone or sent you a new SIM card.
I've posted before about calling ATT. I feel everyone who has their service should call on a regular basis. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

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You are correct. I call ATT about once a week asking if they're going to certify/whitelist OnePlus devices. I figure the more complaints they get, the more they'll be inclined to investigate it.
To add to this, most people I speak to have never even heard of OnePlus, which makes the conversation troublesome. Be completely prepared for ATT employees to feed you bad information, say your device isn't compatible (does not have the required hardware), is inferior to Samsung/Motorola/iPhone, and try to sell you a new phone or sent you a new SIM card.
I've posted before about calling ATT. I feel everyone who has their service should call on a regular basis. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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And the strange part is they have the 9 and 9 Pro listed on their list of devices that will still work on their network (VoLTE) after they shutdown their 3G service next year. Gives me hope they will certify at some point.

I run this phone on AT&T, and while I don't get 5G speeds, I get very fast LTE+ speeds of around 200mbps.

Thanks all for the input. After some more thought, I believe I have decided on the pine green US version. It's going to be in a case anyway, and I've had very few cases that aren't black. So, if it will be black anyway due to the case, I might as well get the US version. Plus, I think the black case and green camera bump will look sharp.

Reviving an old thread, rather starting anew:
I want to get the 9 pro for T-mobile use in US. I need dual sims and want custom roms...
I saw that "toolhas4degrees" said they had a Chinese model with EU firmware. I don't know if he changed the firmware himself or what... A bit out of my capabilities.
Simply put: What would I need to do (if anything) to get the EU (LE2123) OnePlus 9 Pro to work with T-mobile?
Thanks!

Question US carriers that will support POCO F3 or RealMe GT 5G

Hey Everyone,
Currently have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 on AT&T, but recently got the notification that AT&T is shutting down their 3G network and my phone will not be usable. Looking at switching to another carrier/MVNO and was considering between the POCO F3 and RealMe GT 5G.
Can anyone recommend carriers/MVNOs where these phones would possibly work on. I know frequency checker/Kimovil provide the compatible bands. But considering both phones don't have Band 71, I just wanted to check if anyone has been able to use these phones on US carriers and if so how did you go about getting the phones activated with the carriers.
Thanks

Rankone21 said:
Hey Everyone,
Currently have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 on AT&T, but recently got the notification that AT&T is shutting down their 3G network and my phone will not be usable. Looking at switching to another carrier/MVNO and was considering between the POCO F3 and RealMe GT 5G.
Can anyone recommend carriers/MVNOs where these phones would possibly work on. I know frequency checker/Kimovil provide the compatible bands. But considering both phones don't have Band 71, I just wanted to check if anyone has been able to use these phones on US carriers and if so how did you go about getting the phones activated with the carriers.
Thanks
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Well I'm Att and I just ordered the Poco f3 a couple of hours ago. So by next week I'll be able to tell you. I was going to go with the real me gt but didn't because the global model can't be bootloader unlocked and that to me means a no go. If I can't root it I don't want it. It's only a little bit better with specs it has the 888 and 65 watt charging which makes me a little jealous but I have to have viper4 android on my phone so I went Poco f3.
What band do you use for 4g lte? I use band 4 and it's never been a issue. I don't plan on 5g because I barely get 4g where I live

Techguy777 said:
Well I'm Att and I just ordered the Poco f3 a couple of hours ago. So by next week I'll be able to tell you. I was going to go with the real me gt but didn't because the global model can't be bootloader unlocked and that to me means a no go. If I can't root it I don't want it. It's only a little bit better with specs it has the 888 and 65 watt charging which makes me a little jealous but I have to have viper4 android on my phone so I went Poco f3.
What band do you use for 4g lte? I use band 4 and it's never been a issue. I don't plan on 5g because I barely get 4g where I live
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Thanks for the response Techguy, I would be interested in knowing how it works out for you.
Considering that the Redmi Note 5 Global version only has Bands 4 & 5 for 4G, and Bands 2 & 5 for 3G, I believe it is running on HSPA+ on AT&T Prepaid mostly, as I only get the 4G symbol, not 4G LTE.
I did see for the RealMe and Poco F3, most of the 4G bands are supported on GoogleFI, just no 5G.

Rankone21 said:
Thanks for the response Techguy, I would be interested in knowing how it works out for you.
Considering that the Redmi Note 5 Global version only has Bands 4 & 5 for 4G, and Bands 2 & 5 for 3G, I believe it is running on HSPA+ on AT&T Prepaid mostly, as I only get the 4G symbol, not 4G LTE.
I did see for the RealMe and Poco F3, most of the 4G bands are supported on GoogleFI, just no 5G.
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What 5g band do you need? It has n1,n3, n5, n8, n20 and n28, n41, n77, n78

Techguy777 said:
What 5g band do you need? It has n1,n3, n5, n8, n20 and n28, n41, n77, n78
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Oh I just meant for GoogleFI, I don't think they have 5G currently not sure, as kimovil says Not Available. For AT&T and T-Mobile, it was 1 of the 3(AT&T) and 1 of the 4(T-Mobile) in terms of 5G bands.
However I'd be interested in knowing how you go about getting this activated on AT&T since it isn't on their Whitelist of phones that they are trying to limit users to.

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Oh I just meant for GoogleFI, I don't think they have 5G currently not sure, as kimovil says Not Available. For AT&T and T-Mobile, it was 1 of the 3(AT&T) and 1 of the 4(T-Mobile) in terms of 5G bands.
However I'd be interested in knowing how you go about getting this activated on AT&T since it isn't on their Whitelist of phones that they are trying to limit users to.
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Im actually getting a free sim card from the government phone through SafeLink but SafeLink is a smaller part of ATT as that's what my sim reads as 4g band Att and I always buy unlocked phones with band 4 and put it in and it works. Nexus 6, S10lite international, moto G4, S7 and S7 edge both all of them same card just insert.

You don't understand they don't whitelist phones they are just saying these ones they know will work with volte and others will to they won't look at every phone. They won't say Poco f3 or realme because they want to sell Samsung and apple not Poco f3. It's money but if it has the band it'll work

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You don't understand they don't whitelist phones they are just saying these ones they know will work with volte and others will to they won't look at every phone. They won't say Poco f3 or realme because they want to sell Samsung and apple not Poco f3. It's money but if it has the band it'll work
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I understand that part, but the above is not entirely true, hence the post. AT&T for example are activating devices based on the IMEI, even if it has the necessary bands they are saying it is not compatible. Some folks have been able to get around this and get them to activate the phone, but some haven't been able to
I don't know how true, but they told me if I were to take the SIM out of my Redmi Note 5, they will not be able to re-activate my phone. I haven't tried this so I can't say if this is actually the case.
It sounds like SafeLink may technically be a MVNO to Tracfone/AT&T, I do know outside of Cricket Wireless, a lot of the MVNOs aren't enforcing what AT&T is doing with their direct account holders. But technically since they are under AT&T's network, this will eventually trickle down, but it is yet to be seen how this will be handled by MVNO operators.

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I understand that part, but the above is not entirely true, hence the post. AT&T for example are activating devices based on the IMEI, even if it has the necessary bands they are saying it is not compatible. Some folks have been able to get around this and get them to activate the phone, but some haven't been able to
I don't know how true, but they told me if I were to take the SIM out of my Redmi Note 5, they will not be able to re-activate my phone. I haven't tried this so I can't say if this is actually the case.
It sounds like SafeLink may technically be a MVNO to Tracfone/AT&T, I do know outside of Cricket Wireless, a lot of the MVNOs aren't enforcing what AT&T is doing with their direct account holders. But technically since they are under AT&T's network, this will eventually trickle down, but it is yet to be seen how this will be handled by MVNO operators.
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Yes I am under SafeLink/TracFone which is subsidies of AT&T. But if AT&T shuts off their 3g network I don't think they will leave it on for the SafeLink people. AT&T doesn't have to activate your phone in America their GSM you might have them tell you that like my brother brought the nexus 6 to Walmart for a straight talk card and the lady said it's Verizon we can't activate it. Well they should have stuck a sim card inside because it works on all 4 carries except sprint and Verizon are CDMA which means your phone does have to be put into their system to work but not with GSM networks like AT&T. Just try it once you have a sim card in the us I don't know if your in the US. They will tell you anything to sell you another phone from them.

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I understand that part, but the above is not entirely true, hence the post. AT&T for example are activating devices based on the IMEI, even if it has the necessary bands they are saying it is not compatible. Some folks have been able to get around this and get them to activate the phone, but some haven't been able to
I don't know how true, but they told me if I were to take the SIM out of my Redmi Note 5, they will not be able to re-activate my phone. I haven't tried this so I can't say if this is actually the case.
It sounds like SafeLink may technically be a MVNO to Tracfone/AT&T, I do know outside of Cricket Wireless, a lot of the MVNOs aren't enforcing what AT&T is doing with their direct account holders. But technically since they are under AT&T's network, this will eventually trickle down, but it is yet to be seen how this will be handled by MVNO operators.
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I just got my Poco f3 and it works fine on ATT/SafeLink band 4. I don't have 5G so I don't know but it did show the 5g in the upper right hand on display but I checked the speed and it was the same as before so I didn't notice anything 30 to 50 mbps is usual. It's a great phone for the money bench of almost 700k on AnTuTu

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I just got my Poco f3 and it works fine on ATT/SafeLink band 4. I don't have 5G so I don't know but it did show the 5g in the upper right hand on display but I checked the speed and it was the same as before so I didn't notice anything 30 to 50 mbps is usual. It's a great phone for the money bench of almost 700k on AnTuTu
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Thanks for confirming. How are you liking the phone so far?
I had an interesting conversation with AT&T yesterday on the whole topic. Their device compatibility system is really cracking on International Phones although as mentioned earlier, this isn't the case with a lot of MVNOs. The Global version of POCO F3 I think supports 6 of the 9 AT&T 4G Bands. But it's good that it's working for you nevertheless.
I think the POCO F3 is fully compatible with T-Mobile's network as well at least it is as per their online device compatibility tool, so that's another good option depending on the area.
Got some time to decide what I'm going to do, but it's good to know that the phone does work on US carriers.

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Thanks for confirming. How are you liking the phone so far?
I had an interesting conversation with AT&T yesterday on the whole topic. Their device compatibility system is really cracking on International Phones although as mentioned earlier, this isn't the case with a lot of MVNOs. The Global version of POCO F3 I think supports 6 of the 9 AT&T 4G Bands. But it's good that it's working for you nevertheless.
I think the POCO F3 is fully compatible with T-Mobile's network as well at least it is as per their online device compatibility tool, so that's another good option depending on the area.
Got some time to decide what I'm going to do, but it's good to know that the phone does work on US carriers.
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Well so far so good, I didn't get it til 3pm today and I think I have Covid or the flu so I have been under the weather. But I ran bench scores and it's flagship level power. It charges faster than I was expecting, 5400mA on ampere when my S10 lite is 4500mA on a 45 watt charger so they make more use of less watts. I love it so far I doubt you'll notice a major difference between the Poco f3 and realme gt 5g. I love flashing custom roms and rooting my devices so if realme won't unlock the bootloader and release source codes to build on that makes the Poco f3 more for me.
I think if you buy a snapdragon 870 device if has the same bands as all snapdragon 870 devices and 888 has the same bands as all 888 because the modem is inside the CPU. I could be wrong I'm going to look into it but I think so.
It's a sweet phone the only difference from a flag ship is it's 1080p screen instead of 1440p and it doesn't have a mega good camera.

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Well so far so good, I didn't get it til 3pm today and I think I have Covid or the flu so I have been under the weather. But I ran bench scores and it's flagship level power. It charges faster than I was expecting, 5400mA on ampere when my S10 lite is 4500mA on a 45 watt charger so they make more use of less watts. I love it so far I doubt you'll notice a major difference between the Poco f3 and realme gt 5g. I love flashing custom roms and rooting my devices so if realme won't unlock the bootloader and release source codes to build on that makes the Poco f3 more for me.
I think if you buy a snapdragon 870 device if has the same bands as all snapdragon 870 devices and 888 has the same bands as all 888 because the modem is inside the CPU. I could be wrong I'm going to look into it but I think so.
It's a sweet phone the only difference from a flag ship is it's 1080p screen instead of 1440p and it doesn't have a mega good camera.
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That's some good info. Yeah can't be too picky with a budget phone, for a budget phone outside of the camera it has a lot of close to flagship features.
How are you finding call quality so far? That's one thing that wasn't that great with the xiaomi redmi note 5, but attaching a headset resolves the issue.
Hope you start feeling better while enjoying your new phone. Feel better.

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That's some good info. Yeah can't be too picky with a budget phone, for a budget phone outside of the camera it has a lot of close to flagship features.
How are you finding call quality so far? That's one thing that wasn't that great with the xiaomi redmi note 5, but attaching a headset resolves the issue.
Hope you start feeling better while enjoying your new phone. Feel better.
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I will have to get back with you on call quality because I do use headphones now. I have the master and dynamics MW08 and there awesome for calls. It's to late tonight to call anyone I'll let you know tomorrow. I can't stand the wait to unlock the bootloader. It takes 168 hours after you start the unlock process so 7 days than I can root and install viper4android

Question What's the deal with 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ?

Can anyone explain what's the whole deal with the 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ? I'm asking because I'm in Romania, on Orange carrier, and have 5G plan. I had a Xiaomi Mi 11 which had 5G signal, but now with my P6P only LTE. Also no voLTE and no voWIFI.
I checked with them(Orange), they reset my network, tried eSIM, tried another SIM, still only LTE.
I get about 200 mb\sec, but I pay for 1.2 gb\sec(I know it won't be that fast, but with the Mi 11 I had about 450-500 mb\sec, and lower pings in everything). Does anyone know how to enable voLTE at least?

The only thing I could find from Google was this article https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/10082009?hl=en

Have you gotten the December update for your P6P yet? I believe it has some 5G fixes, although I don't use 5G so I can't speak about it first hand.

google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.

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google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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Is there any way that I could enable it via custom rom/recovery/kernel, or magisk mods ?

5g not yet, but volte and vowifi yes

so is tmobile Ultra Capacity the same as MMwave?

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Is there any way that I could enable it via custom rom/recovery/kernel, or magisk mods ?
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you can flash the radio

clipdawg05 said:
google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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Where did you read this?

Vio281 said:
so is tmobile Ultra Capacity the same as MMwave?
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It's just marketing. 2.5 GHz is the suburban mid-band 5G. mmwave is the very distance limited high-band 5G meant only for stadiums, parks, and dense downtown areas.
Both are marketed as ultra capacity.

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It's just marketing. 2.5 GHz is the suburban mid-band 5G. mmwave is the very distance limited high-band 5G meant only for stadiums, parks, and dense downtown areas.
Both are marketed as ultra capacity.
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I dont know about marketing...UC is consistently 10x quicker than regular 5g for me.

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I dont know about marketing...UC is consistently 10x quicker than regular 5g for me.
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I've been reading about T-Mobile 5G. Apparently there are three tiers. The first low wave isn't that much faster than 4G. Then included with UC there's medium 2.4 ghz wave which for me is a lot faster. I live in a medium sized city and I pick up UC most of the time. I was able to get 390 Mbps with medium wave. I haven't picked up the ultra high band yet, which is of course UC also.

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Can anyone explain what's the whole deal with the 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ? I'm asking because I'm in Romania, on Orange carrier, and have 5G plan. I had a Xiaomi Mi 11 which had 5G signal, but now with my P6P only LTE. Also no voLTE and no voWIFI.
I checked with them(Orange), they reset my network, tried eSIM, tried another SIM, still only LTE.
I get about 200 mb\sec, but I pay for 1.2 gb\sec(I know it won't be that fast, but with the Mi 11 I had about 450-500 mb\sec, and lower pings in everything). Does anyone know how to enable voLTE at least?
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The chances are your phone only has Sub6 and doesnt even have the necessary mmWave hardware anyway (unless you bought it in the states) so i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.

MrBelter said:
The chances are your phone only has Sub6 and doesnt even have the necessary mmWave hardware anyway (unless you bought it in the states) so i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.
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So my 5g phone can't connect to 5g ? Wow...nice move, google.

If it can't connect to the very short-range mmwave. You still get mid-band and nationwide 5G if your carrier has built it out.
But yes, it is a **** move that Google removes the antenna from Pro models that don't include mmwave. They just shove a piece of plastic to fill out the space.

Blitzz.666 said:
So my 5g phone can't connect to 5g ? Wow...nice move, google.
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What do you mean it cannot connect to 5G? Sub-6 will still get you more speed than you'll ever need and of course the main benefit which is capacity, also you're not going to have to stand next to the cell site to even get it, you can be miles away to benefit. mmWave isnt even deployed in most countries because in everyday use it is pointless.

clipdawg05 said:
google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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Absolute nonsense ..
Here in Austria the pixel is not officially sold, 5G and VOLTE still work perfectly.

5G wont work in unsupported countries. At the ss you can see what country is supported in the Europe. You can just google it if you dont belive it (example: "5g blocked in unsupported countries google pixel")
Google blocks it, and is lying that is that countries operators fault. But it is obviously a lie. The theme is discussed from Pixel 4a 5G. Until now on the other pixels with 5G, you could install the magisk module, which unlocked everything, so how come it's the operators fault, if the lock was discovered in the software. Pixels 6/pro have a 5G modem from Samsung, so maybe that's the fault why you haven't yet been able to unlock via the magisk module
In summary, it's not about any frequencies, the Pixel 6/pro supports all 5G frequencies used in Europe. This is Google's fault alone, they are tardy and don't want to solve this problem, and probably just don't give a **** about the other countries. Best to spam on their Pixel forum and in the feedback, maybe they will finally wake up

I don't know if this helps anyone: Check carriers, their 5G networks & their 5G roaming support for Pixel phones. Make sure and choose your country from the drop-down to see the list of carriers beneath.
There's also the section above that Learn which Pixel phones can work with which kinds of 5G.

comediiian said:
Absolute nonsense ..
Here in Austria the pixel is not officially sold, 5G and VOLTE still work perfectly.
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you mix between unsupported countries, and official sales countries. there are so many countries which not official sales of Pixel but google just official supported carrier, and there are so many countries that they dont at all.