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When moto z2 play receive update to Oreo android 8 ??

Anyone have the date

HamZusGh said:
Anyone have the date
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relax dude, first it all the moto\lenovo will launch the beta version, and only when the P version have available will launch the final!

Jacksongutz said:
relax dude, first it all the moto\lenovo will launch the beta version, and only when the P version have available will launch the final!
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We are waiting for it

Motorola say that moto z2 force get oreo in December 2017 and moto z2 play in January 2018 :/ ?

HamZusGh said:
Motorola say that moto z2 force get oreo in December 2017 and moto z2 play in January 2018 :/
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Source?

Yash24 said:
Source?
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I see it in the net i dont remember where but i think in frandroid

Is it here yet? Just ordered a z2 play 4/64.

kewlzter said:
Is it here yet? Just ordered a z2 play 4/64.
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Nope. And we're also never received the Dezember Patch.

capedukewuhaha said:
Nope. And we're also never received the Dezember Patch.
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Time for a class action lawsuit. We were mislead.
I bet if people did sue, these companies would be more careful with their promises, or do things more timely.

i've recieved the december update, but not oreo

sergiopjr85 said:
i've recieved the december update, but not oreo
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Hello what variant? I have Reteu parched November
Regards
Enviado desde mi Moto Z2 Play mediante Tapatalk

iron maiden said:
Hello what variant? I have Reteu parched November
Regards
Enviado desde mi Moto Z2 Play mediante Tapatalk
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Hi, Brazil variant.

From India here, having the Dual sim variant, my Moto Z2 play still on the November 2017 security patch.
No Oreo Update, seriously upset, since there is not even a Date announcement for an Oreo update.
Highly dissappointed

Better staying on nougat for stability. Getting oreo too soon and some annoying bugs just like oreo on Mi A1. I'm pretty sure Oreo on Z2 Play will be out as soon as it's considered stable.

Yesterday i get Dicember patch.
Italian Moto Z2 Play with TIM brand

Verizon variant here don't even have the December patch it's very sad.

I just got the December patch update 15 mins ago in India, retin. Waiting for Oreo but a stable one.

Oreo isn't a magical fantastic update. It's nothing to get excited about, it's mostly just a number, with a few new bells, lets be patient.
Now if "Skittles" is released and we are still waiting on Oreo. Then it's time for pitchforks.

kewlzter said:
Oreo isn't a magical fantastic update. It's nothing to get excited about, it's mostly just a number, with a few new bells, lets be patient.
Now if "Skittles" is released and we are still waiting on Oreo. Then it's time for pitchforks.
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Yeah, but we buy the devices because they promise the updates. They can just make android 10 with no changes at all but the number, yet if moto promises the update, we deserve to get it

M1810 said:
Yeah, but we buy the devices because they promise the updates. They can just make android 10 with no changes at all but the number, yet if moto promises the update, we deserve to get it
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Again, if that promise was a factor in your purchase, you have every right to sue.
And I gotcha back!

LG Update History Myth

I have seen a lot of people say that they would not get the V30 or any LG phone because they suck at updates. I knew this was not entirely true from when I owned a G3 the updates were actually pretty good. I remember specifically the G3 being the first non-Google phone to get Lollipop update.
So I thought maybe their updates have gotten worse and decided to do some research. The best way to tell how good updates will be in the V30 is to see how the updates were on the V phone which has been out for a good while. Of course that's the V10. So here are my findings of the update history for the V10 which will likely indicate how the V30 updates will be.
Unlocked models:
Released November 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 March 2016
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017
Latest Security Patch September 2017 or possibly newer
T-Mobile model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017
Latest Security Patch September 2017
AT&T model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today
Verizon
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on March 2016
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today
CONCLUSION: past updates for the V10 released 2 years ago shows if you buy a V30 on T-Mobile or unlocked version then you will receive updates and security patches for up to 2 years. If you purchase on Verizon or AT&T then updates will only be for about 1 year.
So from this actually LG is very good with updates!! People just think they are not because it is Verizon and AT&T who are the ones holding back updates.
Also 1 additional note, the V10 was never released on Sprint, but the V30+ was, and Sprint has a very good update history. So the V30+ will likely receive 2 years of updates on Sprint too. Unfortunately their network is the worst.
Hopefully this clears up the myth that LG doesn't update their phones. The only thing they are bad at is taking a few months to release the update after Google has released the update (which most companies do), but they do still push out the updates for 2 years. It's the 2 biggest carriers Verizon and AT&T that do not, or at least did not with the V10. Therefore giving the perception LG is bad at updates when theyre not.

You forgot the H870 which is still on July patch, same happened with G5 H850 last year.
LG is good with major updates for speed, for patches and minor updates is one of the worst.
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Just realized that all those data are about the V10... Why? Use more recent phones for right comparison at least, anyway you can sum up the LG updates year like this:
- Release-November: One update for two months
- November-December: Major update
- January-end of the updates: random

Just curious, what's so important about not getting security updates? What would happen if we don't receive it?
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

melihcarter said:
Just curious, what's so important about not getting security updates? What would happen if we don't receive it?
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Nothing, your device will be vulnerable to some vulnerabilities, which 99% of times are nothing urgent, but krack is something dangerous

Killua96 said:
Nothing, your device will be vulnerable to some vulnerabilities, which 99% of times are nothing urgent, but krack is something dangerous
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Thank you for clarifying, now I'm on htc m9, don't remember the last time I got one
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melihcarter said:
Thank you for clarifying, now I'm on htc m9, don't remember the last time I got one
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Probably because you're out of the 2 years support xD

my sister LG G5 last android security update is on Apr 2017.
suck at update? you bet.

As we said, horrible. Especially the Nougat (7.0) updates.
Nougat 7.0 was released by Google in August 2016.
Oreo 8.0 was released by Google in August 2017.
So, those LG V10 phones below that got Nougat in July 2017 had to wait 11 months (July 2017) after Google released Nougat in August 2016, to get it on their phones -- just one month before Oreo 8.0 was released by Google. Some of the LG V10 phones still have never received it -- over 14 months now? Even for those who got Nougat, it shouldn't take 11 months after OS release for an LG flagship phone to get that version. And those that never got it?
When Nougat 7.0 was released in August 2016, the V10 was LESS than 1 year old, having been released in October 2015. When Nougat was released in August 2016, the V20 had not yet been released. It was STILL the newest, most current "V" by LG. See what I mean?
The 2016 LG V20 was LAUNCHED with Nougat on board. But for some reason the LG V10 didn't get Nougat until almost a year after that -- July 2017.
I'm buying a carrier unlocked model, so there's no excuses about ROM OS updates. Those updates will come straight from LG. I hope they do better with the LG V30. I'll be rooted, running a custom ROM -- but to keep DAC and full camera features it may have to be stock-based custom ROM. That worries me...
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I have seen a lot of people say that they would not get the V30 or any LG phone because they suck at updates. I knew this was not entirely true from when I owned a G3 the updates were actually pretty good. I remember specifically the G3 being the first non-Google phone to get Lollipop update.
So I thought maybe their updates have gotten worse and decided to do some research. The best way to tell how good updates will be in the V30 is to see how the updates were on the V phone which has been out for a good while. Of course that's the V10. So here are my findings of the update history for the V10 which will likely indicate how the V30 updates will be.
Unlocked US model:
Released November 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 March 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017 (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Why 11 months for a phone less than 2 years old?)
Latest Security Patch September 2017 or possibly newer
T-Mobile model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
Upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 on July 2017 (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Why 11 months for a phone less than 2 years old?)
Latest Security Patch September 2017
AT&T model
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on April 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Where's Nougat for the past year?)
Verizon
Released October 2015
Upgraded from 5.1.1 to 6.0 on March 2016 (6.0 Marshmallow was released by Google in October 2015)
NEVER upgraded to 7.0 still today (7.0 Nougat was released by Google in August 2016. Where's Nougat for the past year?)
CONCLUSION: past updates for the V10 released 2 years ago shows if you buy a V30 on T-Mobile or unlocked version then you will receive updates and security patches for up to 2 years. If you purchase on Verizon or AT&T then updates will only be for about 1 year.
So from this actually LG is very good with updates!! People just think they are not because it is Verizon and AT&T who are the ones holding back updates.
Also 1 additional note, the V10 was never released on Sprint, but the V30+ was, and Sprint has a very good update history. So the V30+ will likely receive 2 years of updates on Sprint too. Unfortunately their network is the worst.
Hopefully this clears up the myth that LG doesn't update their phones. The only thing they are bad at is taking a few months to release the update after Google has released the update (which most companies do), but they do still push out the updates for 2 years. It's the 2 biggest carriers Verizon and AT&T that do not, or at least did not with the V10. Therefore giving the perception LG is bad at updates when theyre not.
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Killua96 said:
You forgot the H870 which is still on July patch, same happened with G5 H850 last year.
LG is good with major updates for speed, for patches and minor updates is one of the worst.
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Just realized that all those data are about the V10... Why? Use more recent phones for right comparison at least, anyway you can sum up the LG updates year like this:
- Release-November: One update for two months
- November-December: Major update
- January-end of the updates: random
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I used the V10 instead of V20 because it's been out for 2 years. Therefore it is the only V phone released that can give us an update what updates will be like for 2 years. The V20 can only give us 1 year of update history to look at for comparison.
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my sister LG G5 last android security update is on Apr 2017.
suck at update? you bet.
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Yeah but which carrier? If it is At&t or Verizon, then that's why. That's not LG's fault because LG has released other updates since then.
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As we said, horrible. Especially the Nougat (7.0) updates.
Nougat 7.0 was released by Google in August 2016.
Oreo 8.0 was released by Google in August 2017.
So, those LG V10 phones below that got Nougat in July 2017 had to wait 11 months (July 2017) after Google released Nougat in August 2016, to get it on their phones -- just one month before Oreo 8.0 was released by Google. Some of the LG V10 phones still have never received it -- over 14 months now? Even for those who got Nougat, it shouldn't take 11 months after OS release for an LG flagship phone to get that version. And those that never got it?
When Nougat 7.0 was released in August 2016, the V10 was LESS than 1 year old, having been released in October 2015. When Nougat was released in August 2016, the V20 had not yet been released. It was STILL the newest, most current "V" by LG. See what I mean?
The 2016 LG V20 was LAUNCHED with Nougat on board. But for some reason the LG V10 didn't get Nougat until almost a year after that -- July 2017.
I'm buying a carrier unlocked model, so there's no excuses about ROM OS updates. Those updates will come straight from LG. I hope they do better with the LG V30. I'll be rooted, running a custom ROM -- but to keep DAC and full camera features it may have to be stock-based custom ROM. That worries me...
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Technically LG released 7.0 in May 2017 for unlocked in Korea. But then it took T-Mobile another 3 months. So only 8 months can technically be blamed on LG, which yes is still way too long. Also you can't use "some​ of the V10s" not getting the update, as a excuse why LG is bad with updates. Any day passed the day LG updates the unlocked model, then those days or months can only be blamed on the carrier the phone came from.
Also keep in mind the unlocked V20 and the t-mobile V20 are on the 2nd newest security update right now, September 2017. Something I didn't mention in my original post. So that's a really good sign too.
Although yes, I totally do not blame you from buying unlocked. It is the fastest with updates. However surprisingly T-Mobile is able to usually be right behind with in a month of LG.
So in summary LG updates their flagships with updates for 2 years! Except they can lag months behind in pushing out the updates. Hopefully with V30 being the most popular V phone yet this will make them more eager to push out the updates faster.

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Also you can't use "some​ of the V10s" not getting the update, as a excuse why LG is bad with updates. Any day passed the day LG updates the unlocked model, then those days or months can only be blamed on the carrier the phone came from.
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I used exactly the same examples you gave, and your examples are 11 months and "never" for Nougat.
There's no excuse for "11 months" (from LG for carrier unlocked version) to "never" (even if carriers may be partly to blame) for a flagship phone, when it was still the only "V" phone when Nougat was released, and the V20 launched with Nougat.
If you don't want to use carrier examples, why do you cite them yourself?
But when LG's behavior to the carrier unlocked version for the Nougat update is very bad.
If following the same timeline as the V10, we'll get Oreo when March 2018?
Peach Pie in July 2019?

AndroidPurity said:
Yeah but which carrier? If it is At&t or Verizon, then that's why. That's not LG's fault because LG has released other updates since then.
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international version.

ChazzMatt said:
I used exactly the same examples you gave, and your examples are 11 months and "never" for Nougat.
There's no excuse for "11 months" (from LG for carrier unlocked version) to "never" (even if carriers may be partly to blame) for a flagship phone, when it was still the only "V" phone when Nougat was released, and the V20 launched with Nougat.
If you don't want to use carrier examples, why do you cite them yourself?
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Multiple reasons! It was for comparison purposes. To demonstrate in the case of V10 not getting the 7.0, then it was carrier faults. Also for comparison to demonstrate LG pushed out updates a little faster than carriers. Also to compare each carrier to show which carrier was the fastest with updates. But not used to put blame on LG, because LG has no control over when the carrier updates once they give out the update of the unlocked version.
Lastly it wasn't 11 months, it was technically 8 months for unlocked version. My original post it was a mistake, i changed it from July to May. Articles announce the unlocked update May 2017. Although yes 8 months is still​ way too long. I never seen LG take that long for a major update though. So maybe it was a fluke.
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But when LG's behavior to the carrier unlocked version for the Nougat update is very bad.
If following the same timeline as the V10, we'll get Oreo when March 2018?
Peach Pie in July 2019?
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Haha! Yeah that's pretty accurate if you go based off the V10. However when the V20 gets Oreo will be a sign as to how fast we will get Android P. So keep an eye out for that.
Overall LG is far from the worst manufacturer​ with updates, but also far from the best. They are about middle of the pack. However when a device sells well (such as the V30 seems to be) it encourages companies to be faster with updates and support because theres way more people to disappoint.
For example my girlfriend's Sony Z3 from T-Mobile back in the day stopped updates after 5.0 when Sony went to at least 6.0. T-Mobile explained to me it was because they didn't sell much of the devices, so its not worth their time and money to invest research and development for updates of a phone that sold much less than other phones. That makes sense from a business perspective and that is the way these phone companies think.
So with that in mind I think its safe to say the V30 is going to be the best selling V phone so far. Possibly even sell close to as much as the G6. Especially if they drop the price about $200 in early 2018. So that increases the chances of LG wanting to develop more time and resources into the device because it's selling so well!

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Lastly it wasn't 11 months, it was technically 8 months for unlocked version. My original post it was a mistake, i changed it from July to May. Articles announce the unlocked update May 2017. Although yes 8 months is still​ way too long. I never seen LG take that long for a major update though. So maybe it was a fluke.
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Your original post shows U.S. unlocked got Nougat in July 2017. I live in U.S.and will be buying U.S.carrier unlocked version.
Do you have a link showing the corrected date?
And yes, Motorola is very bad with updates too. I'm only on Nougat because of custom ROM.

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Your original post shows U.S. unlocked got Nougat in July 2017. I live in U.S.and will be buying U.S.carrier unlocked version.
Do you have a link showing the corrected date?
And yes, Motorola is very bad with updates too. I'm only on Nougat because of custom ROM.
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Yep! 3 unlocked v10 models received the nougat update may 2017. I corrected my original post to may.
Here is the link ans it list the 3 model numbers that got it in may. Again still a long time, but 3 months earlier than the only carrier that updated it.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V10-starts-receiving-the-Android-7.0-Nougat-update_id94415

CHAZZ, the speaker of truths!
this honestly was my hesitation in picking up the V30. my previous phone was the Nexus 6P and I LOVED being able to install the newest latest and greatest as soon as it dropped.
Phone manufactures really are doing themselves a disservice by not just dropping a vanilla ROM update asap and a branded OS as they see fit. They could simply omit those fancy features they bake into their ROMs.
Phone manufactures, want consumers to buy their phones for the experience...why?...why not attract consumers for the phone itself as well as the "experience". At that point you'll have 2 lines of consumers ready to buy your product. It's like when HTC? initially released some phones, they had their carrier branded phones that were spiffied up, and you could register that phone for for a developer account allowing you to install vanilla Android.

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Yep! 3 unlocked v10 models received the nougat update may 2017. I corrected my original post to may.
Here is the link ans it list the 3 model numbers that got it in may. Again still a long time, but 3 months earlier than the only carrier that updated it.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V10-starts-receiving-the-Android-7.0-Nougat-update_id94415
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Hmmm.. As you said, only South Korea models got it in May. Those are carrier models, sold in South Korea. Everyone else got it later.
The only caveat is the update is now being deployed in South Korea only.
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The official carrier unlocked version -- which is eligible for bootloader unlock code -- is not the same as those three South Korea carrier models.
I'm curious when the official carrier unlocked version got it. This model, which is listed on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.
LG V10 H960A
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
And the answer is July 14, 2017:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/general/official-software-h960a-v30b-nougat-t3636552/page1
So, your original email was correct, it was 11 months after Nougat was released before the official carrier unlocked version got the update.

I think since LG is including that two year warranty with most of our purchases on T-Mobile (thanks to the promo), I'd think we will see updates during that period.
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I was on the fence about keeping my pixel xl 2 or going with v30, this thread helped me make up my mind thanks

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I was on the fence about keeping my pixel xl 2 or going with v30, this thread helped me make up my mind thanks
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Well, with root (on the bootloader unlocked models) you can have custom ROMs. There will be plenty of dev work. The LG V30 will probably get Oreo ROMs before LG officially releases Oreo. This discussion is just if you want LG updates.
I'm just concerned about DAC and camera features. So, I may have to stay on stock-based ROM (debloated, tweaked, rooted), instead of LOS-based ROM. I don't know enough information yet.

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Well, with root (on the bootloader unlocked models) you can have custom ROMs. There will be plenty of dev work. The LG V30 will probably get Oreo ROMs before LG officially releases Oreo. This discussion is just if you want LG updates.
I'm just concerned about DAC and camera features. So, I may have to stay on stock-based ROM, instead of LOS-based ROM. I don't know enough information yet.
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I'm not familiar with rooting and roms with lg. I've only done that with Nexus and pixel devices. Are they similar processes? Pixels and Nexus was very easy

Another security update in April(no oreo update yet)

We're waiting for the Oreo update but it doesnt seem to be coming anytime soon.
Just another security update.
Maintenance update: https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/126135

Last night my XT1670 retla was updated to the security patch of January 1st. Still Android 7.0, but waiting for Oreo...

And I received january security patch today (XT1671 RETLA)

Di you notice any changes in behavior?

On reteu also the same update

I already got the march patch some days ago, retbr

Maybe Android Oreo will be released in April 19th, 2018. It's the announcement date of Moto G6 Play, Moto G6 and Moto G6 Plus.

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Maybe Android Oreo will be released in April 19th, 2018. It's the announcement date of Moto G6 Play, Moto G6 and Moto G6 Plus.
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That's really bad news because if we don't get the update before G6 launch we'll probably never see oreo on the G5, it's going be forgotten by lenovo.

XJeFX said:
That's really bad news because if we don't get the update before G6 launch we'll probably never see oreo on the G5, it's going be forgotten by lenovo.
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They will update the Moto G5 Series to 8.0.0.

Today i've got march security update in Germany. Two security updates in 3 weeks, but no oreo

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They will update the Moto G5 Series to 8.0.0.
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they said the same for the G4 series and then didn't even updated to nougat as of today, 2 years+ later.

They updated Moto G4 series Unlocked variants to 7.0 and 7.1.1

The worst ever software update service i ever had. Thought samsung was the worst. But its non other than Moto. I bought this phone just because... Thinking that it will be stock Android, it will update quickly.. and will have better support. Moto used to be ahead of evey other , right behind nexus / pixel devices in terms of software update. But soon after Lenovo acquired moto, software update is a nightmare for every single moto phone.
You may have seen xda portal news about moto g6 series. Well they too wont be getting much support either.
I bought this phone as my secondary phone... I will give this to mom and will buy something like xiaomi note 5 or Zenfone pro m1 . I have a pixel 2 xl as primary.. evey time it gets update notification... I desperately check software update on this too. Now its on march 1 security update. I am looking forward to 64bit official os. Hope Lenovo will do it atlest in two years.
Btw.. i had only one phone from Lenovo ever before. A6000 just 3 days after i bought it its vibration motor stopped!! And when i searched for the reason , i figured out that it was one of their common problems. So i thought to put in some local vibrator motor from local market.. as going and waiting for service is too time consuming. When i opened the phone. I was literally shocked by the quality of the pcb construction.. it was like cheep chineese phones.. soo bad construction .. lol.. they dont even care to put rf sheilds and cheep quality wires and speakers. Literally... Some Chinese manufacturers make better pcb.. If you compare that pcb with something like nokia 1110 ( ya a phone from almost 10 years back) . Nokia's pcb is still the winner. !! Generations ahead.. still .. That day i decided.. i will never buy a Lenovo product again. And I didn't even care to go to local market and buy a vibration motor for that phone.. i closed it. And after a week, gifted to a friend.
Lol.. p20 and p20 pro.. good they sealed it. Donno what will be inside.

I also bought moto to get quick updates and I think, best solution to get oreo is installing custom rom and voiding warranty. That's so funny, lenovo can't still release oreo, but custom roms are on 8.1

Oreo will be coming around june.. on the g5+

https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS129979
This is for g5s+ but the g5+ shouldn't be left far behind

Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.

pradsngh523 said:
Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.
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It will still be 32 bit. But we need those blobs yes.

Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.

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Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.
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i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out

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i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out
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So long as you're prepared for the possibility of major, possibly device breaking bugs and having to be very careful if you wanted to downgrade back to Nougat (we've got enough bricked devices as it is)... It should be fun, just be careful

A jump is nice. Directly to 8.1 Let's see how much time it would take

I disagree that we will see an upgrade in June... Let's break it down a bit as to why:
Honestly, look at the history of the Oreo upgrade for the G5S+, it has been in beta/soak for almost 5 months. It started in late January, I can provide references but Google will work easily enough here if you don't believe me, and there are verified users getting the initial beta in early February. Although I haven't seen a screenshot of the released version, I am told it has the May security update, meaning the final build was likely early to mid-May... So conservatively that process took 4 months from initial beta test to release.
OK, so a tad longer than most Moto upgrades, but not uncommon as anywhere from 30 to 100 days from initial beta/soak to release is normal. We have seen this process be no shorter than 30 days, although 60 would be "typical", but we have seen it take in excess of 8 months (in the case of Nougat for the Moto X Style/Pure before full release, for example).
Now jump to our device, the G5+... there is no confirmed users with a beta or soak yet, not even semi-substantiated or reputable rumors of it occurring yet in ANY market. Not even confirmation of MFN users getting emails to sign up for the beta test. Plug in the previous numbers and we are looking at a release no earlier than late July, but most likely in September and possibly even later.
Again, this is all guess work and looking at history and my personal knowledge through having Moto devices for a very long time, so I could be wrong... in fact, I hope I am wrong.
Plus, let's not forget this device is already 15 months old (released March 2017), and this puts Oreo release at an age of 18+ months, something Lenovo's Moto has done before for devices this age, but also at an age they have cancelled upgrades (not updates) on other devices at this age as well. Although I don't think they will cancel it, it is a remote possibility to keep in mind.
Just my 2 cents worth... take it as you wish.

Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.

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Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.
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Just curious, what have you seen to show the rollout is happening? I've not seen any OTA reports and the update page for the 8.1 Oreo was taken down (or I can't access it at any rate).

Just Google it (moto g5s plus oreo) and see all the reports from the last 12 hours. Eg BGR, Android Police
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/30/android-8-1-oreo-rolling-moto-g5s-plus/
Edit : seems like the articles reference a Motorola update info page that has since been taken down.
Perhaps it went up prematurely?!

Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)

preetvardhan said:
Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)
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well, at least we know that the 8.1 release note was for a soak test.. so oreo is on it's way and as soon as the soal test leaks you all will be able to install it
Now the thing is what is going to happen with the G5 plus non S?

https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June

orvon.freeman said:
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June
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*Maybe coming*
Unfortunately, we have seen these "release notes" posted many times and the associated update never appears on devices.
But since we won't get Oreo for several months, if at all, we will probably see the update.

Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!

LiteSoul said:
Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!
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I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8632026 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277398&postcount=28 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?

echo92 said:
I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cp...pers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?
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Oreo is able to run on 32bit systems, as you quoted, it does on the Z Play. As changing from 32 to 64bit needs a complete wipe no OEM will change that with an OTA update. Motorola knew what devices are running which OS and they wouldn't have announced Oreo for Moto G5 and G5+.
Some people just don't have the correct informations.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs

Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.

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Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.
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by the month of november all our warranties will be over and custom rom's bugs will probably be all fixed.. also treble is in a good development state, so we would not need support from motorola anymore.. i don't think it's worthed waiting that long..

Update Android pie

How long it takes to become Update to Android 9.
Older devices from Moto like the Moto G6 get it.
For our Z2 Force no news.
Hope that I could use after that volte after Update to Android 9.
Now with Android 8 volte is disabled for european devices ?

Motorola Brazil said the next phones getting Pie are: Moto Z3 Play, Z2 Force, Z2 Play, G6 and G6 Play.
I believe we will get it with the March Update. There are probably a security update coming within the next days, so Pie will probably the update after that one.

Too bad we not even have 8.1
My favourite Substratum themes don't support 8.0 since a while and I am frustrated waiting for an update ....

Bietschek said:
How long it takes to become Update to Android 9.
Older devices from Moto like the Moto G6 get it.
For our Z2 Force no news.
Hope that I could use after that volte after Update to Android 9.
Now with Android 8 volte is disabled for european devices ?
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The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
Are u shure that volte is disabled is in European model? I'm using an Europe model and volte and Wifi calling is working without any problem.

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The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
Are u shure that volte is disabled is in European model? I'm using an Europe model and volte and Wifi calling is working without any problem.
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I have a UK bought reteu model and I have nothing in settings to enable native WiFi calling or volte.

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The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
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That's right, but Z-series get two major updates. First difference. And the second difference is that the Z2 Force is a 799€ device and not just 249€ like the Moto G6. So we can expect more and longer updates for it. Normally Z-phones should get it first. We have no 8.1, so at least 9.0 first. Hope

jonas210678 said:
The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
Are u shure that volte is disabled is in European model? I'm using an Europe model and volte and Wifi calling is working without any problem.
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No, there is no Option to enable volte and wifi calling.
I read online that Motorola disabled it after Update from Android 7 to 8 cause they had a Problem with that. But never fixed it. After that long Times that is not ok. I cant count that as a Support.
If volte is not working after Update to Android 9 the z2 force Was the last device I bought from Motorola.

What is Moto doing? Not even a security patch since November. This is an Android Enterprise Recommended smartphone. They are supposed to follow Google's guidelines to get security updates atleast every 90 days. We're in February almost and no security patch is being released or Android 9. Google should tell them a thing or two.

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What is Moto doing? Not even a security patch since November. This is an Android Enterprise Recommended smartphone. They are supposed to follow Google's guidelines to get security updates atleast every 90 days. We're in February almost and no security patch is being released or Android 9. Google should tell them a thing or two.
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There's a December patch for the Verizon model.

Ace42 said:
There's a December patch for the Verizon model.
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Reteu still on November patch..

FrankRr said:
Reteu still on November patch..
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Should coming in few days. Have seen, that the january patch is documented on moto page for z2 force and z3 play. Keep cool, it's on the way. But no pie xD Next time maybe :silly:

Almost all of the Moto devices are on Pie now , mine Moto X4 is also on Dec Patch Pie update , only the flagship Z series is lagging behind :'(
Last time , Oreo came in Dec but this time i think Moto is gonna follow Moto Z , who received Oreo in Apr 2018 (after Dec 17 patch) =_=

openmx still on november patch

Here, too. Seems that's need more time.

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Here, too. Seems that's need more time.
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An official from Motorola Spain said to me at the Moto G7 launch event that the Moto Z2 Android Pie update has started but it's rolling out really slowly. It has the December 2018 security patch, just like the new G7. I'm typing this from the new G7 BTW.

I think they delayed the update. Z2F official website shows the January update already, but seems like nobody received it yet. Retbr here and still nothing.

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I think they delayed the update. Z2F official website shows the January update already, but seems like nobody received it yet. Retbr here and still nothing.
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Yes, have seen this, too. Maybe Pie is coming and no january-patch?

allrightlite said:
Yes, have seen this, too. Maybe Pie is coming and no january-patch?
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I hope that's the case but to be honest I really doubt it. I believe we will only Pie with the March Update or even later. Z3 Play haven't received Pie yet, I doubt we will get it before it.

VzQzZ said:
I hope that's the case but to be honest I really doubt it. I believe we will only Pie with the March Update or even later. Z3 Play haven't received Pie yet, I doubt we will get it before it.
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Z3 play is rolling out today https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-z3-play-android-pie-update/

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Z3 play is rolling out today https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-z3-play-android-pie-update/
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That's good news! Now this can really mean there's a possibility that Motorola delayed the security update to finally update Z2F to Pie. If this scenario become reality, I guess we should be seeing Pie in the next coming weeks. Fingers crossed