I read it has a wide angle, not only 2x optical zoom. That's new when compared to the S8 and note 8. More like v30. Is this correct?
ekerbuddyeker said:
I read it has a wide angle, not only 2x optical zoom. That's new when compared to the S8 and note 8. More like v30. Is this correct?
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S9+ have main camera - wide angle (thats normal camera like s8 not super wide like v30) and secound camera optical zoom like Note 8.
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So before I wiped my S8+ to send back, I took it to the store with me and got some pics along side my new V30. The photos are of the same thing and I tried to get as close on both. They are named S8* and V30*.
Let me know your thoughts.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/[email protected]/zFW84t
For at least the first few, it looks like LG outpunched Samsung's famed punchy colors. The last one with the flowers with the pumpkin I feel maybe Samsung took the edge there. The one with the flowers on the shelving outside of the store, the Samsung photo looks cooler and the LG warmer. Can't really tell which look I prefer, kind of leaning towards the cooler but that's something that I can change in settings fortunately.
Hardly useful comparison because all photos on V30 were too with wideangle F/1.9 camera which even lacks a focus feature, while camera of S8 has F/1.7 and dual pixel focus. Of course pix on S8 in this comparison is better by miles
Is there at least one sane person in whole world who cat make proper comparison, and forget about useless wide-angle camera like it never existed?
Billy Madison said:
Hardly useful comparison because all photos on V30 were too with wideangle F/1.9 camera which even lacks a focus feature, while camera of S8 has F/1.7 and dual pixel focus. Of course pix on S8 in this comparison is better by miles
Is there at least one sane person in whole world who cat make proper comparison, and forget about useless wide-angle camera like it never existed?
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I dunno. Where's yours?
Billy Madison said:
Hardly useful comparison because all photos on V30 were too with wideangle F/1.9 camera which even lacks a focus feature, while camera of S8 has F/1.7 and dual pixel focus. Of course pix on S8 in this comparison is better by miles
Is there at least one sane person in whole world who cat make proper comparison, and forget about useless wide-angle camera like it never existed?
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I don't recall having the wide lens on for those pics. What makes you think I would make a comparison using the worse camera?
EVOme said:
I don't recall having the wide lens on for those pics. What makes you think I would make a comparison using the worse camera?
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Open https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/36942181854/
See ƒ/1.9
Which is only attributed to wide-angle camera, main camera in V30 has ƒ/1.6. All other photos in that album also on wide-angle
It feels like s8 kinda had more depth to the object that the v30. The s8 game each object a depth perception, while the v30 made the objects completely blended into the background.
Can anyone please confirm the optical zoom max on this phone. I could not find it in the specs although I assume 3x like the pro version.
Thanks
Blueskiesva said:
Can anyone please confirm the optical zoom max on this phone. I could not find it in the specs although I assume 3x like the pro version.
Thanks
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There are 3 lenses:
- 16mm UltraWide
- 27mm Normal
- 81mm Tele
So it's 3x zoom (81/27) from Normal to Tele.
And it's 5x zoom (81/16) from UltraWide to Tele.
I love the Note 10/+ cameras, but the lack of support for the Wide Angle and Telephoto cameras in Pro mode and not being able to get DNG/RAW files with that sensors is a reason for me not to fully love the phone's camera setup. As far as I know, all cameras have the same sensor, so really it wouldn't be much difficult for Samsung to let us use those cameras in Pro mode via an OS Update.
Other manufacturers like LG and Huawei let me take RAW files with other cameras (I've had the LG V30 and the Huawei Mate 20 Pro), and if you are a photographer or at least know the importance of RAW files, you should understand me.
I shoot professional photography on my DSLR, but when I leave my camera at home to go with friends or to a live show, having full camera control on my phone would be really appreciated knowing how easy would be for Samsung to let us do by software update.
Edit. Misunderstood at first
Each sensor is different: normal and telephoto are 12MP, ultrawide is 16MP, telephoto and ultra wide are 1 micron sensors, normal has 1.4 micron pixels so it's best for low light and I think ultra wide has no auto focus? But that's no excuse, those cams I think are the same as S10+, so are around for at least 6 months and should have enough time to properly update software.
I remember when Note3 came out it was one of the first, if not the first phone with 4k video etc., I don't see that bleeding edge anymore. For example Huawei has 40 MP sensors and better low light capability. Maybe Samsung is adopting Apple strategy to make the phone just good enough and leave newest tech for next generations, but that could bite them back.
What is going on with S22 telephoto.
I was expecting some difference between 3x and 4x, what I found was atrocious. S22 telephoto looked like it was not a telephoto camera at all, at least compared to P6P.
Is there some kind of a bug in S22 camera software?
Pixel 6 gives a great photo than the S22 because the google camera is the best!!!
Maskman_101 said:
Pixel 6 gives a great photo than the S22 because the google camera is the best!!!
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Opinions, opinions..., I have S22 and am very impressed with this phone and its camera, went outside yesterday to check it out and I think this 'vanilla' is a hit. Had an embarrassing moment though, thinking that the camera was a dud when I unknowingly left 'portrait' button on and saw ghosts appearing in the viewfinder(Ai was attempting to create a blurr effect in the scene background) but it's all good now and the x3 zoom feature is perfect, some examples bellow.
I also have S22U if I'd feel the urge to "zoom it to the moon".
Tomorrow, I'll post comparison pix between S22 x3 and P6P x4 to illustrate my point.
I think I know what happened - when I was testing the telephoto camera in S22, it was getting dark. So S22 must have switched the camera to wide automatically, so the 3x zoom was entirely in software.
Beware of that.
Pixel 6 Pro did not have that issue, so the result of 4x was nice and crisp.
Here's a comparison in daylight.
P6P pictures were taken with wide and telephoto.
S22 pictures were taken with wide, telephoto, and telephoto at 0.75 x distance to emulate 4x of pixel.
mzsquared said:
Opinions, opinions..., I have S22 and am very impressed with this phone and its camera, went outside yesterday to check it out and I think this 'vanilla' is a hit. Had an embarrassing moment though, thinking that the camera was a dud when I unknowingly left 'portrait' button on and saw ghosts appearing in the viewfinder(Ai was attempting to create a blurr effect in the scene background) but it's all good now and the x3 zoom feature is perfect, some examples bellow.
I also have S22U if I'd feel the urge to "zoom it to the moon".
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Nice photos! we should Expert raw app and it'll be the best of Samsung!
nabbed said:
I think I know what happened - when I was testing the telephoto camera in S22, it was getting dark. So S22 must have switched the camera to wide automatically, so the 3x zoom was entirely in software.
Beware of that.
Pixel 6 Pro did not have that issue, so the result of 4x was nice and crisp.
Here's a comparison in daylight.
P6P pictures were taken with wide and telephoto.
S22 pictures were taken with wide, telephoto, and telephoto at 0.75 x distance to emulate 4x of pixel.
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Both camera samples look out of focus, idk why. Are the lenses clear?
Maskman_101 said:
Nice photos! we should Expert raw app and it'll be the best of Samsung!
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Thank you, the more I use this phone the more I like it.
mzsquared said:
Both camera samples look out of focus, idk why. Are the lenses clear?
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What are you talking about?
These are tiny crops of much larger pictures to illustrate the point.
For example, the S22 wide shot is a crop of 190x130 pixels from the full shot of 4000x3000.
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nabbed said:
What are you talking about?
These are tiny crops of much larger pictures to illustrate the point.
For example, the S22 wide shot is a crop of 190x130 pixels from the full shot of 4000x3000.
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So why are you showing compressed/reduced photos asking for opinion?
mzsquared said:
So why are you showing compressed/reduced photos asking for opinion?
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I am demonstrating the quality of the telephoto camera in comparison with the wide camera, and also in comparison with the P6P.
If I posted full pictures, then you would have to do the crop and zoom by yourself to see the difference.
So I did the cropping and zooming myself, for your benefit.
Are you new at this?
The P6P has a real 4X zoom from the Periscope camera, the S22/S22+ doesn´t have it this system
The S22U Camera App (not the expert Raw) is horrible.
The images all look muddy, far too little details.
I hope they fix it.
Hi all. I am debating the switch from the regular 6 to the pro.
Looks I will be getting bigger higher refresh screen (pro) which is curved (con) and with worse battery life.
One thing that is not clear to me - is the zoom lens used in any other situations than when actively selecting it? For example - which of the lenses is being used when you select the portrait mode in the camera app? Is it using the telephoto lens to battle the fish eye effect?
monocay said:
Hi all. I am debating the switch from the regular 6 to the pro.
Looks I will be getting bigger higher refresh screen (pro) which is curved (con) and with worse battery life.
One thing that is not clear to me - is the zoom lens used in any other situations than when actively selecting it? For example - which of the lenses is being used when you select the portrait mode in the camera app? Is it using the telephoto lens to battle the fish eye effect?
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I have never gotten the telephoto lens to show up in gcam. Only the 50MP wide cam and the 12MP ultra wide cam. The 50 gives you zoom options but the 48MP telephoto never shows up
monocay said:
Hi all. I am debating the switch from the regular 6 to the pro.
Looks I will be getting bigger higher refresh screen (pro) which is curved (con) and with worse battery life.
One thing that is not clear to me - is the zoom lens used in any other situations than when actively selecting it? For example - which of the lenses is being used when you select the portrait mode in the camera app? Is it using the telephoto lens to battle the fish eye effect?
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It's a 4x telephoto, which is a lot for portraits (so portraits are taken using main camera at 2x magnification).
No, it's not being used for enhancing ultrawide. I suppose it's also because if the same reason mentioned above (OnePlus uses it's 2x tele for this as well).
Telephoto is really only useful for zooming 4x and up all the way to 20x, when photos are still kinda useful (depending on a scenario), thanks to being a 50 MP sensor and some Google's AI magic.
I take a lot of zoomed pictures and I don't mind curved display. Battery is okay, 6 hours of SOT are real for me, usually on social networks and news scrolling. Sometimes I play a League of Legends, than it will drop to 4-5 hours.
Zoom lens is for... zooming in. I would think that would be self-explanatory?
It kicks in when the magnification reaches about 4.5x. Switching between sensors is exclusively a matter of changing the magnification level, not by "selecting" a particular camera. There are other details considered before switching sensors, such as exposure requirements.
You can tell which sensor is in use by briefly blocking sensors with your finger. When you see your finger on the screen, you found the sensor that is in use.
Yeah, thanks
What was not clear to me was if it is being used when shooting portrait photos, as some phones (e.g. Oneplus) do.
Looks like this is not the case.
I will stick with my vanilla 6 then, not missing out on much, subjectively.
monocay said:
Yeah, thanks
What was not clear to me was if it is being used when shooting portrait photos, as some phones (e.g. Oneplus) do.
Looks like this is not the case.
I will stick with my vanilla 6 then, not missing out on much, subjectively.
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Portrait photos can be made with ANY lens, depending on the distance and direction to the subject(s).
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Portrait photos can be made with ANY lens, depending on the distance and direction to the subject(s).
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Is it so? How does the portrait UI looks on Pixel 6 Pro? On the vanilla pixel I have the options to shoot it in 1x and 2x only. Does the pro version offer a higher magnification, using the zoom lens instead of main one?
monocay said:
Is it so? How does the portrait UI looks on Pixel 6 Pro? On the vanilla pixel I have the options to shoot it in 1x and 2x only. Does the pro version offer a higher magnification, using the zoom lens instead of main one?
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No. 1x and 2x are the only options available. The telephoto lens isn't used in portrait mode.