As the title describes, I keep getting a fair amount of lag, and if memory serves me correct, has been doing it since I put on Substratum and Andromeda, but that could just be me. I am using Nova Launcher, running the latest March security updates. Using KLWP, thought that was causing the lag, so I stopped using it. Still did it with no widgets as well.
Not sure where to go with this. I have seen users in the past with similar issues, but not many with pixel 2/xl reporting it. Does anyone have any ideas? I am going to completely uninstall Andromeda and Substratum and test again, but thought I would check here first.
AwkwardUberHero said:
As the title describes, I keep getting a fair amount of lag, and if memory serves me correct, has been doing it since I put on Substratum and Andromeda, but that could just be me. I am using Nova Launcher, running the latest March security updates. Using KLWP, thought that was causing the lag, so I stopped using it. Still did it with no widgets as well.
Not sure where to go with this. I have seen users in the past with similar issues, but not many with pixel 2/xl reporting it. Does anyone have any ideas? I am going to completely uninstall Andromeda and Substratum and test again, but thought I would check here first.
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There are some themes that can cause this. Particularly the ones with transparent backgrounds. I would disable all themes first and see if that resolves the issue. I run Switch dark and black without issues. However, I've experienced this somewhat with Sprite theme.
Badger50 said:
There are some themes that can cause this. Particularly the ones with transparent backgrounds. I would disable all themes first and see if that resolves the issue. I run Switch dark and black without issues. However, I've experienced this somewhat with Sprite theme.
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Thanks badger. I had disabled all themes and noticed it still. I've since uninstalled both Andromeda and Substratum and seems a bit better. I'll keep watching it and see how things go.
Badger50 said:
There are some themes that can cause this. Particularly the ones with transparent backgrounds. I would disable all themes first and see if that resolves the issue. I run Switch dark and black without issues. However, I've experienced this somewhat with Sprite theme.
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So, it may not have been substratum after all. I think that it might actually be Nova Launcher. I have uninstalled it, reinstalled it several times, does the same thing. Lags when opening an app. Tried in Pixel launcher, and there is no lag. So, gotta figure out what is going on there. Might try a different launcher for a bit.
I always thought substratum slows down your device only during the process of building/installing/enabling overlays. I've never experienced any lag with subs or Nova.
Maybe try setting Nova up from scratch as opposed to restoring from a Nova backup (if you were doing that previously).
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First off, kudos to Chilly for allowing me to use JB on my Dinc2. Thought I was going to be stuck on CM7 until an upgrade. Now, maybe I can use the upgrade so the teenage daughters will have fancyphones (a bill with four smartphones would be an ugly thing, though).
I flashed the newest PAC3 and wanted to see if anyone else was experiencing any of the few bugs I've run into (I first just updated, saw some of these problems so I wiped and installed, but they persisted).
1. SystemUI crashes: I saw a mention of this on the development thread, but it seems isolated? On that thread it was mentioned that it would restart, but mine doesn't always restart (or, at least, restart quickly). It seems like it will restart when there is a new notification, but not always. No particular pattern to when it crashes, either. I didn't have this problem on the May builds.
2. It seems like there is a longer-than-usual lag after disconnecting from WiFi before it picks up mobile data. Again, not something I noticed on the earlier builds. I use Tasker/Profile4Tasker with the CM profiles, and I thought it might have something to do with that, but I've got it set now so that all profiles allow mobile data.
Other than some general lagginess at startup on some apps, everything else seems to be working. The SystemUI crash is the biggest hurdle; it basically renders the phone unusable until it decides to restart or I reboot.
AintHurtinNobody said:
First off, kudos to Chilly for allowing me to use JB on my Dinc2. Thought I was going to be stuck on CM7 until an upgrade. Now, maybe I can use the upgrade so the teenage daughters will have fancyphones (a bill with four smartphones would be an ugly thing, though).
I flashed the newest PAC3 and wanted to see if anyone else was experiencing any of the few bugs I've run into (I first just updated, saw some of these problems so I wiped and installed, but they persisted).
1. SystemUI crashes: I saw a mention of this on the development thread, but it seems isolated? On that thread it was mentioned that it would restart, but mine doesn't always restart (or, at least, restart quickly). It seems like it will restart when there is a new notification, but not always. No particular pattern to when it crashes, either. I didn't have this problem on the May builds.
2. It seems like there is a longer-than-usual lag after disconnecting from WiFi before it picks up mobile data. Again, not something I noticed on the earlier builds. I use Tasker/Profile4Tasker with the CM profiles, and I thought it might have something to do with that, but I've got it set now so that all profiles allow mobile data.
Other than some general lagginess at startup on some apps, everything else seems to be working. The SystemUI crash is the biggest hurdle; it basically renders the phone unusable until it decides to restart or I reboot.
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System ui is just the status bar and such nothing terminal or anything and yeah no telling when it will happen or what triggers it. I use a different launcher than trebuchet like apex or at times nova which helps semi with the lag. another way is also trickster mod from the play store to OC the kernel and apply at boot or even the "other" kernel thats floating around.. hey our phones ain't young anymore things slow down as we get older so will our phones... Yeah thanx to @chillybean our phones are Jelly Beaning like a boss
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System ui is just the status bar and such nothing terminal or anything and yeah no telling when it will happen or what triggers it. I use a different launcher than trebuchet like apex or at times nova which helps semi with the lag. another way is also trickster mod from the play store to OC the kernel and apply at boot or even the "other" kernel thats floating around.. hey our phones ain't young anymore things slow down as we get older so will our phones... Yeah thanx to @chillybean our phones are Jelly Beaning like a boss
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Thanks for the tips. I didn't realize another launcher might help with the lag....I actually was _not_ using one thinking it would have the opposite effect. I also am trying Trickster MOD.
Hi All,
I am facing a strange issue with Nova launcher (other launchers as well) on my pixel. The apps when loading for the first time stutters for couple of times. Basically, the apps are loading slowly. Same apps loads faster when they are running in the background.
I have been using Nova launcher since ages and did not have any issues till now. I am using it along with substratum overlays but it is not due to the overlays, I checking it by removing substratum but still there is a lag while loading apps.
I tried to check with other launchers as well and the issues remains same with all other launchers as well. This issue does not occur with the stock launcher.
This is very strange and am not able to resolve this by my self. I have browsed through the forum and did not find anything related to this issue. Any thoughts, recommendations, help will be greatly appreciated!
Note - My phone is rooted.
I am having similar issues. Thought that it was due to KLWP. I have uninstalled all themes, and still have substratum installed as well as Andromeda. Still lagging when opening up apps. Nova Launcher Prime as well. I am not sure honestly what is causing it. Have debated on hard resetting my phone, but would like to avoid that.
I'd like to get some black subtratum theme for my A1 but one thing worries me if its gonna decrease stability of my phone even by slightest bit, like performance, or if its likely to cause any problems (visual or technical) after android updates, or i will have uptade the theme every time something changes visually in OS. One thing to note is that all i need is some black layout for my oreo (menus, default apps like calendar, keyboard, dialer, lock screen, etc), im not interested in customising any third-party apps, not even google apps. Also to note, im using Nova Launcher and wondering if there are no comptability issues with it.
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I'd like to get some black subtratum theme for my A1 but one thing worries me if its gonna decrease stability of my phone even by slightest bit, like performance, or if its likely to cause any problems (visual or technical) after android updates, or i will have uptade the theme every time something changes visually in OS. One thing to note is that all i need is some black layout for my oreo (menus, default apps like calendar, keyboard, dialer, lock screen, etc), im not interested in customising any third-party apps, not even google apps. Also to note, im using Nova Launcher and wondering if there are no comptability issues with it.
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I use substratum with swiftblack theme it is stable . If you uninstall first all overlays s in substratum manager and then update the theme and then reapply them after each update you dont have many bugs. Sometimes there are some bugs but they fix them . I dont think there is a decrease in phones performance. There is no issue with nova launcher.The thing you should do first is disable the autoupdate of apps in playstore. Update the apps when a new version of the theme is out. I use substratum with my mia1 with april update and with my s7(oreo). With my mia1 i use the nexus or pixel guide in swiftblack theme.
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I'd like to get some black subtratum theme for my A1 but one thing worries me if its gonna decrease stability of my phone even by slightest bit, like performance, or if its likely to cause any problems (visual or technical) after android updates, or i will have uptade the theme every time something changes visually in OS. One thing to note is that all i need is some black layout for my oreo (menus, default apps like calendar, keyboard, dialer, lock screen, etc), im not interested in customising any third-party apps, not even google apps. Also to note, im using Nova Launcher and wondering if there are no comptability issues with it.
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This is stock Android. Substratum works without issues.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi A1 using XDA Labs
I use Pitch Black. It's perfect. The only problem you might get is if you have apps set too auto update. As some overlys have vto be set to app version. So YouTube etc can cause hiccups. But the Developer normally updates them as soon as new updates are out. Don't worry too much its easy to fix.
I've updated to the latest June patch with 8.1 Oreo. I've rooted with magisk and substratum works without any issues. No lags or performance problems. Battery also doesn't drain.
I'm attaching a screenshot . Using Pi Dark Theme
Guys im not going to root my phone, all i want is black themed system, not apps other than stock tools from android. Can i install it without applying it to other apps like YouTube, Facebook and all that? And does it cause any glitches after updates as a clean replacement for standard white theme from oreo? I will pass if its gonna bring any extra trouble for me, i simply dont want to deal with it anymore in the future, it just annoys me but a black theme instead white would be great.
costage said:
Guys im not going to root my phone, all i want is black themed system, not apps other than stock tools from android. Can i install it without applying it to other apps like YouTube, Facebook and all that? And does it cause any glitches after updates as a clean replacement for standard white theme from oreo? I will pass if its gonna bring any extra trouble for me, i simply dont want to deal with it anymore in the future, it just annoys me but a black theme instead white would be great.
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You're not getting the gist of what we are explaining. We cannot post the black theme overlay you want because warez is not allowed in the forums. For one, you will need Substratum + you need to buy the Andromeda add-on if you're not going to root. Andromeda will use ADB commands from your PC to enable theme support on your Mi A1. Also, when you access themes through substratum, you can select which apps to enable the overlays on. You can skip the other apps and just theme the Settings app, framework and SystemUI. You will need to update the themes through Substratum whenever an update arrives for the theme you are using. If you are thinking this through too much, I would suggest stay away from theming.
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... when you access themes through substratum, you can select which apps to enable the overlays on. You can skip the other apps and just theme the Settings app, framework and SystemUI. You will need to update the themes through Substratum whenever an update arrives for the theme you are using. If you are thinking this through too much, I would suggest stay away from theming.
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Thanks, i think i will pass then. That sounds distracting enough for me. Even if its just a periodic update to the theme it will eventually piss me off on occasion when something suddenly breaks, and id rather have the least amount of distractions at the cost of worse design.
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Thanks, i think i will pass then. That sounds distracting enough for me. Even if its just a periodic update to the theme it will eventually piss me off on occasion when something suddenly breaks, and id rather have the least amount of distractions at the cost of worse design.
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Most themes only breaks on third party apps. Settings app, SystemUI and Android Framework updates are usually minimal and doesn't lead to crashing. Updating the overlay through Substratum then rebooting fixes the issues easily.
Ohh allright then
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This is stock Android. Substratum works without issues.
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Can u help me with the process of installing substratum themes
The_Runner said:
I've updated to the latest June patch with 8.1 Oreo. I've rooted with magisk and substratum works without any issues. No lags or performance problems. Battery also doesn't drain.
I'm attaching a screenshot . Using Pi Dark Theme
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Hi , how do you root your phone ? I only unlocked bootloader
ahmed dzico said:
Hi , how do you root your phone ? I only unlocked bootloader
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I mainly followed the guide.
After updating to the June patch ( i had already unlocked my bootloader before May Patch)
1. Booted to latest twrp and made a back-up of boot .Renamed it to boot.img .
2. Then i installed magisk and patched the boot image.
3. Then from fastboot i booted with the Patched image . And installed magisk via 'Direct Install' method.
The phone rebooted. And it was rooted.
PS. In case u want the patched boot img for June, I'm leaving a link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OvO4dx_pOudfVM2veWvVotVL6_iOxwtG/view?usp=drivesdk
Not sure if it is a coincidence or not, but ever since I upgraded to 10.5, my app drawer has been a mess. It is displaying a bunch of apps in keys that I've never been shown before, IE the Carrier services app, the titanium pro version app, etcetera. These are all things that launchers have kept hidden in the past. Any idea what is causing them to display in the app drawer now? Not a big deal just very irritating to have it so cluttered all of a sudden
I've had the same since I got the phone on 10.0.3. No idea why. As you say it's not a big deal but I'd like to know. I wonder if these apps need to be updated for something different in Android 10.
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I've had the same since I got the phone on 10.0.3. No idea why. As you say it's not a big deal but I'd like to know. I wonder if these apps need to be updated for something different in Android 10.
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yeah, good point. It may have to do with the afternoon to be updated. Either way it's just a nuisance, I guess that is what we get for being early adopters
Anyone figure out a way to get around this?
So now my app switcher only works about 10% of the time, the rest of time it will show all the open apps as tiny little icons that don't do anything and I can't switch to any app, only go to the home screen.... I'm on the latest alpha of lawnchair and had no problems before the update. And it happens folded or open
I uploaded a video of it happening. Any help would be appreciated
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Any help would be appreciated
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I am also on the UI5 beta.
I can't directly suggest anything that solves your problem. But I can at least give you a little insight. I am using Nova Launcher. I already knew that with Android 12L and 13, Nova Launcher didn't support the new taskbar. So I also assume any other new switching features are also unsupported while using Nova Launcher. So why am I replying? The more traditional app switching works just fine for me while using Nova Launcher.
I'll be interested to learn whether other users of the full UI5 beta are having the same experience so we can understand if your experience is an anomaly or a general beta bug.
But if it is a general bug, you might want to use a third party launcher until the next beta or the imminent general release.
If this needs to be explored further, I can also try changing my launcher to Samsung's default to see whether I have the same experience as you. But first let's see what others have to say.
goattee said:
I am also on the UI5 beta.
I can't directly suggest anything that solves your problem. But I can at least give you a little insight. I am using Nova Launcher. I already knew that with Android 12L and 13, Nova Launcher didn't support the new taskbar. So I also assume any other new switching features are also unsupported while using Nova Launcher. So why am I replying? The more traditional app switching works just fine for me while using Nova Launcher.
I'll be interested to learn whether other users of the full UI5 beta are having the same experience so we can understand if your experience is an anomaly or a general beta bug.
But if it is a general bug, you might want to use a third party launcher until the next beta or the imminent general release.
If this needs to be explored further, I can also try changing my launcher to Samsung's default to see whether I have the same experience as you. But first let's see what others have to say.
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I also asked my question in the lawnchair telegram group and they said it's a bug with the good lock apps from Samsung and lawnchair not playing right together on the beta. So I guess I'm going to switch to nova. I used to have nova and gave it up for foss but I always missed it.
I'm running stock Launcher and app switcher /recent apps is broken in landscape mode. There's a null pointer error because of a colour that's undefined. Could be related to your issues
andy242 said:
I'm running stock Launcher and app switcher /recent apps is broken in landscape mode. There's a null pointer error because of a colour that's undefined. Could be related to your issues
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Since I've made this thread I've tried nova, action, Niagara, neo, lawnchair V2, Microsoft launcher, and I think a couple more and all have app switching broken for me.
So I made a bug report with the Samsung members app thing. Not sure if it's worth much considering how much I've debloated this device because idk how much data they can still get from me.
spart0n said:
Since I've made this thread I've tried nova, action, Niagara, neo, lawnchair V2, Microsoft launcher, and I think a couple more and all have app switching broken for me.
So I made a bug report with the Samsung members app thing. Not sure if it's worth much considering how much I've debloated this device because idk how much data they can still get from me.
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I've sent them a couple of bug reports on it and even sent them the log with the null pointer error