How to figure out if your cellphone it's the original? - Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact Questions & Answers

Hi everybody. I've recently bought this cellphone and it will arrive very soon. But it's coming from a third party company. My question is how to figure out if this cellphone is a true Sony Xperia xz2 compact?
Thank you very much.
Ps; recently I saw a video that they did a amazing job coping a iPhone X, beautifully, almost perfect.

I don't know how it works in other countries, but here in Sweden you buy the phone from third party companies like 99.99% of the times. You should of course make sure it's a serious retailer before you even buy it in the first place, and never by it from places like Wish or Alibaba (about 99% of the stuff there is crap when it comes to mobile phones).

Got it. But is there a code, or something, that it would allow us to know if it's original? Like, to connect to PC, and use the Sony program, and if it's recognized, then we will have 100% sure it's original?

Man, only iphones get replicas because they are all status symbol.
Other peasant phones are just bought for what they are worth.
Seriously, any normal shop is good.

Never heard of a Sony replica, but technically no, there is no way that I know of. Look what apps come with it, version etc.. But I think you worry about nothing. If you bought it from a known retail store, the risk is slim to none.

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is this phone worth $200?

i bought one from ebay is it worth it?could i have gotten a better one?
condition is mint no scratches or anything
hey,
i bought the phone a few month ago for about $300...
and of course you could have gooten a better one...
But here's the BIG BUT:
-when you want to have a hardfware keyboard then theres only one other phone...the desire z (about $600)
-if you dont need the keyboard then u could get the HD2 if u want it to hgave windows mobile
-or you could get the desire wich in my eyes is a high end device without any limits for now...
--->but thats all a matter of what you want to spend for a new phone...
but i can only tell you that it is a great phone i use it every day and its just great to have the keyboard...
and for that price $200 you couldnt get a better phone then this one!
just flash a cusom rom and the phone is just awesome!
nick
Not a bad price; was it a 'bid' or 'buy it now' option?
I was lucky to snag one with a bunch of accessories (including 2 batteries, 3 cables, 2 AC chargers, a spare battery cover, extra stylises, & an Otterbox) in mint condition for about $150 shipped. It was a buy-it-now sale, so I assume that I got that deal because the seller really didn't know what it was worth. The seller was changing carriers and just wanted to get rid of the phone.
Since the phone has been discontinued and the new Windows 7 phones are out, the prices are coming down quickly. I'm not ready to jump into a W7 device, so I'm happy with my purchase.
Keep reading the forums and, if you're brave about customizing it, I'm sure you'll be happy with this device, too. Enjoy!
Debbie
the-nj said:
hey,
i bought the phone a few month ago for about $300...
and of course you could have gooten a better one...
But here's the BIG BUT:
-when you want to have a hardfware keyboard then theres only one other phone...the desire z (about $600)
-if you dont need the keyboard then u could get the HD2 if u want it to hgave windows mobile
-or you could get the desire wich in my eyes is a high end device without any limits for now...
--->but thats all a matter of what you want to spend for a new phone...
but i can only tell you that it is a great phone i use it every day and its just great to have the keyboard...
and for that price $200 you couldnt get a better phone then this one!
just flash a cusom rom and the phone is just awesome!
nick
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what phone could i have gotten for $200 better than this?i thought this was the max
DebbieNY13 said:
Not a bad price; was it a 'bid' or 'buy it now' option?
I was lucky to snag one with a bunch of accessories (including 2 batteries, 3 cables, 2 AC chargers, a spare battery cover, extra stylises, & an Otterbox) in mint condition for about $150 shipped. It was a buy-it-now sale, so I assume that I got that deal because the seller really didn't know what it was worth. The seller was changing carriers and just wanted to get rid of the phone.
Since the phone has been discontinued and the new Windows 7 phones are out, the prices are coming down quickly. I'm not ready to jump into a W7 device, so I'm happy with my purchase.
Keep reading the forums and, if you're brave about customizing it, I'm sure you'll be happy with this device, too. Enjoy!
Debbie
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it was at buy it now price
And thank you for replying
Well, after reading this thread, I decided to buy one off ebay too. Then to see how the xdandroid stuff is working...
bought my tp2 before they hit the U.S for $600,been pleased ever since.You got one for $200,you got lucky,great buy
Was it an unlocked device? It wasn't a BAD price, really but I don't know if I would consider it a great one either. The phone is a bit on the slow side these days, but not excessively so. They are still selling new Android phones with even slower CPUs. But it's no Snapdragon either. The hardware keyboard is nice. I thought about moving to a Focus with WP7 but I really don't like the soft keyboards and I am not impressed with the Quantum.
So, yeah, not a real helpful post, but the TP2 remains one of if not the overall best WM 6 device out there. AT&T is still selling it for $199 and you would be locked into a 2 year contract for it so if you got it for $199 I suppose you did okay. Especially if, as previously mentioned, you aren't adverse to a bit of out of warranty modding and custom ROMs.
Avatar28 said:
Was it an unlocked device? It wasn't a BAD price, really but I don't know if I would consider it a great one either. The phone is a bit on the slow side these days, but not excessively so. They are still selling new Android phones with even slower CPUs. But it's no Snapdragon either. The hardware keyboard is nice. I thought about moving to a Focus with WP7 but I really don't like the soft keyboards and I am not impressed with the Quantum.
So, yeah, not a real helpful post, but the TP2 remains one of if not the overall best WM 6 device out there. AT&T is still selling it for $199 and you would be locked into a 2 year contract for it so if you got it for $199 I suppose you did okay. Especially if, as previously mentioned, you aren't adverse to a bit of out of warranty modding and custom ROMs.
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it was unlocked

So... Anyone went ahead and bought a Lumia 800 today?

I'm tempted just because I'm up for an upgrade but I probably won't bother yet.
thanks to nokia excellent marketing, i was also tempted, but then i realised that it just isnt worth it, not for me anyway. i have an omnia 7, and although it has twice the memory and is 400mhz faster, it still hardly he 2nd gen phone i am looking for, even worse, it STILL dosnt have a front facing camera. shameful for a 2nd gen device, especially with skype coming around..... tut tut nokia, although the marketing for it has been excellent and i hope it does really well! but i wont be conned a second time around....
i would have bought it right now if i could move my sms.
No.. I have no money
Purple11 said:
i would have bought it right now if i could move my sms.
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Maybe we gotta harass the smart folks over in the hacking forum. Seems like it'd be fairly simple to dump/load SMS in homebrew.
i won 1 last week from a dutch tech-website.
have been using it for a week now
Used to have the omnia 7 and i'm still getting used to the smaller display of the Lumia
Turns out Vodafone won't let me early upgrade until the twenty-somethingth, but as I'm still sitting on the fence it will very much depend on how much they value my loyalty (and how much they want to compensate me for perpetually screwing up my bills, because I'm on a price plan that doesn't exist???)
You've got to hand it to Nokia though, they've done a damn good job especially with the advertising, this is EXACTLY what Windows Phone needs. This must have cost them a fair whack though:
WP_000158 by andrewkeith5, on Flickr
Right in the middle of the Bullring in Birmingham...as well as prime positioning in Phones4U and a really very comprehensive campaign.
EDIT: Had I taken that shot from the other side of the centre, you could see it's right outside the Vodafone store, and the two O2 stores, although obviously anything that isn't an iPhone or Blackberry is beyond the comprehension of the O2 store employees...
i bought mine today but not in a shop rather over the phone it is currently in the ukmail depot and will be with me in 8-12 hours
These wave of phones are probably skippable if you have the first gen or you are not locked into a contract.
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Turns out Vodafone won't let me early upgrade until the twenty-somethingth, but as I'm still sitting on the fence it will very much depend on how much they value my loyalty (and how much they want to compensate me for perpetually screwing up my bills, because I'm on a price plan that doesn't exist???)
You've got to hand it to Nokia though, they've done a damn good job especially with the advertising, this is EXACTLY what Windows Phone needs. This must have cost them a fair whack though:
WP_000158 by andrewkeith5, on Flickr
Right in the middle of the Bullring in Birmingham...as well as prime positioning in Phones4U and a really very comprehensive campaign.
EDIT: Had I taken that shot from the other side of the centre, you could see it's right outside the Vodafone store, and the two O2 stores, although obviously anything that isn't an iPhone or Blackberry is beyond the comprehension of the O2 store employees...
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spot on nokias marketing is great i can go anywhere, without seeing the lumia around...this is how wp7 should have been marketed in the first place.
Purple11 said:
i would have bought it right now if i could move my sms.
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all nokia windows phone have an integrated "contat transfer" program for transfer contacts from symbian to windows phone via bluetooth
btw, the only reason for not buying a nokia lumia is the missing frontal cam IMHO.
HypeZ85 said:
all nokia windows phone have an integrated "contat transfer" program for transfer contacts from symbian to windows phone via bluetooth
btw, the only reason for not buying a nokia lumia is the missing frontal cam IMHO.
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That's still not a solution for what he wants, not sure why you answered that.
Oh and also a bigger screen is a good reason for not buying this phone, although that's not the debate here.
You know I was going to get an int'l model but I'll wait for the American version. By then the camera issues should have a firmware update and some maturation would've occurred. Elop keeps saying americans would get a different experience. If it involves FFC I'm sold. Period.
So can anyone confirm or deny if it is indeed "Funner", and if so, what on earth that means?!!
Some of the crap that comes out of marketing astounds me!
More seriously, it seems like a really nice phone from having played with it in store, but the small screen, and lack of FFC kill it for me. Hopefully they will pull their finger out and release something akin to the Ace specs that were leaked a while back.
I have had a play with one in store and I am sure this phone will appeal to the youngsters, it looks absolutely beautiful, but for me, at my age, the screen is too small, I will stick with my Titan until Nokia come out with a bigger phone. I really hope the lumia range is successful for the sake of wp7.
CAn you let me know where you got it? I am looking for an unlocked/unbranded devisce but none that i can see so far.
Thanks.
You can buy it unlocked sim-free at Phones4u for £400, how I got it, or at Carphone Warehouse for £470.
Thanks, just talked to rep from phones4u and they sais they only sell PAYG. No good for me. Checked their site and they seem to have the phone there as you say SIM free. I was going to place order now Im not sure as they stated at the side of the site that they prepare all SIM phones to be ready.
As you have one from them can you confirm that it is indeed SIM free and totally unbranded from Phones4U? if it is I will order one right now
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Thanks, just talked to rep from phones4u and they sais they only sell PAYG. No good for me. Checked their site and they seem to have the phone there as you say SIM free. I was going to place order now Im not sure as they stated at the side of the site that they prepare all SIM phones to be ready.
As you have one from them can you confirm that it is indeed SIM free and totally unbranded from Phones4U? if it is I will order one right now
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What about Expansys?
http://www.expansys.com/nokia-lumia-800-uk-black-16gb-224952/
399 from phones4u simfree
Really nice phone. Never used wm7. Bought it for my girl but I like it.
I even consider getting one as well buy in blue.
Am thinking about Titan, but it doesn't have Nokia all black screen...and still as big as mine desire hd
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Xperia Play 2 Announcement Next Week?

Could it be??
http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/62942-sony-plans-mobile-announcement-next-wednesday
"find out what's new and next with Xperia gaming", The event invite show's the Xperia Play pictured... MLG are going to be in attendance...
I think we could be looking at a quad-core Xperia Play 2
Same idea, different thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617181
Don't hope to much, I know at least I won't, and I already got the 1st PLAY-phone for a time, and I already got my physical gamepad, I think the 2nd, if it is, will make us more satisfied since they already lie in all possible ways, it had been a natural step for me if Ericsson had got some of the money, but I don't even consider buying it now as they got me to buy a PS3 with features that they removed later on to get it less hacker-feiendly and they was on GeoHot and attacked the hackercommunity in a big scale, never Sony again, in their shadow of their releases they just lie about everything to get buyers, but I won't buy a 2nd gaming-phone from them if it isn't just to get NFC-Technology if my phone also become my wallet in the future, and I won't buy the PS4, that's one thing I can say already w/o nothing what they have to deliver, more than some specs that could be about some AMD-parts, but then I already got a real computer with wireless PS3-gamepad.
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razerblader said:
Don't hope to much, I know at least I won't, and I already got the 1st PLAY-phone for a time, and I already got my physical gamepad, I think the 2nd, if it is, will make us more satisfied since they already lie in all possible ways, it had been a natural step for me if Ericsson had got some of the money, but I don't even consider buying it now as they got me to buy a PS3 with features that they removed later on to get it less hacker-feiendly and they was on GeoHot and attacked the hackercommunity in a big scale, never Sony again, in their shadow of their releases they just lie about everything to get buyers, but I won't buy a 2nd gaming-phone from them if it isn't just to get NFC-Technology if my phone also become my wallet in the future, and I won't buy the PS4, that's one thing I can say already w/o nothing what they have to deliver, more than some specs that could be about some AMD-parts, but then I already got a real computer with wireless PS3-gamepad.
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Well... Won't be surprised (Will be pissed off) if the unlock bootloader becomes a paid service lol.
TheCraig said:
Well... Won't be surprised (Will be pissed off) if the unlock bootloader becomes a paid service lol.
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Believe me, I won't get surprised if they start to take money for it in the future to get even more money

Goodbye Motorola

So, this is one of the post where a "user" rants!
Well, I am a software engineer, bought a defy this august thinking that it will be a cool experience after samsung galaxy ace got messed in rain.
I needed something robust. Well, then i invested in defy.
Phone went fine till september when it started giving issue with data cable, never detected my PC. 22nd October i gave it to service center.
Amazingly they give it to me after 2 months on 13 december, Well, better late than never as they say. I happily went back with my phone. Next day in office phone starts rebooting at random and my 3g signal just looks like barely coming in. Tested sim card on a galaxy and network was good. After a lot of research turns out that hardware is faulty, though earlier my phone used to be amazing at 3g.
While checking hardware turns out to be IMEI is different than what i gave and i was not even notified when receiving. Great move. Never mind, called back customer care again and they ask for minimum 20+ days time. Which is again great.
Thought of selling it to shop for atleast 60 USD or roughly 3000 INR. Bought it for 13000 INR. The shopkeeper says that box and bill has a different IMEI and he cant buy it for me, unless its free.
Just dropped motorola a mail
"So, here is my introduction.
I am a customer who buys a defy in august. A month later the usb starts giving an issue, in october i give it to service center, and in december first week i get it back. 2 months? really? and when i take it back to home, turns out that IMEI is different, and my phone just randomly reboots now. Alright, you guys gonna fix.. but well guess what, Service says 20+ days expected time... really? After all this i really wanted to go for a consumer court case, but i really pity how the things are being handled. You want my IMEI.. but which IMEI? thanks to you guys i have TWO IMEIs .. Point of my mail is not to get a solution, coz after all these months i know motorola wont have a solution for me. But Just saying that stay this way and whatever is left of in India .. of present or the future.. none willl ever trust motorola. Know the worst thing? I cant even sell my phone as my box and bill has a different IMEI. Thanks a lot motorola."
I have all valid ground to sue them, but dont want to. Rather i cant. I dont have time to get into this, as i start at morning 8 for office and its usually late when im back. Instead of getting 13000 Rs handset refunded, while loosing thousands a day by not being involved in office doesnt sound fair. Rather taking it as an "accident" that i stumbled across motorola.
Purpose of mail : NOTHING...
Just felt like ranting a bit. Nothing more, am right now sitting in my room with a sony xperia J. Nice display and good battery (though not amazing hardware but am an adventurer, not a power user, I need battery). For performance i use my laptop
While the time i was here in defy community it was good. Enjoyed a lot of custom roms. Quarx's and walter79's work always amazed me.
Anyways, time to switch to xperia community now.
Seems unbelievable that you got two faulty devices in a row... Me and my brother have both got DEFY+'s and both are working perfectly fine (never had battery drops on any ROM, come alone some bigger failure). So... I don't know, I'm just sorry that you had such a bad experience when Moto's are one of the most endurable phones (not talking just about the DEFY's now). In my experience and knowledge they are at least.
Oh, nevermind, I don't want to turn this into a Moto-fans vs others thread, just saying
I'm glad that you've enjoyed our community!
yeah, quite unlucky of me, but more bad was the service they gave to me. Got defy plus after a lot of research and reviews from actual owners. But seriously, motorola needs to learn. If the thing doesn't get sold, i can use it as a navigator (doesnt reboot when data is off) and fix it on my motorcycle.
It's so unlucky man. Because Defy is such a 'slave' mobile phone that you can put it to hell and can see it's still working. I'm using Defy for more than 1 year now and you don't know how roughly I'm using it. I'm from the southern part of India and you can guess the lifestyle here. This mobile has survived the dusty climate of Tamil Nadu, the pouring monsoon of Kerala and my software experiments with this poor soul, oh my god if not Defy, it would have screamed! I have tested every custom ROMs available for Defy here and it hasn't shown any rejection to any of them whatsoever. No problems with any of the hardware including speakers, display etc. In fact I'm going to try another ROM just after posting this. :cyclops: It is such a reliable machine and what happened to you may be one in a million.
well, all I want to say I would to love to take up your case against the company
I'll take up this one for free just for you all you need to do is sit back and give me the details i'll handle rest of it
P.S: I'll take 40% of of the compensation awarded
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Closed.

Xperia refurbishers/"counterfeiters": have they solved the DRM key problem?

I don't know how widely known this is or how many people have this on their radar, but there seems to be a very healthy market out there for "new" or "like-new", once-flagship smartphone models. And it's somehow being successfully filled by operations that, as far as I have been able to deduce, manage to collect used smartphones en-masse (from where? e-waste collectors/recyclers? buying them off of the original manufacturers -- perhaps as discards from their repair departments -- for $cheap$? unclear), they then take out any still-working internals/guts from the units they've collected, fabricate brand-new external casings (of the same material as the original product...so, glass, metals, plastics, etc.) that can almost pass for the genuine article even under close scrutiny, re-package the working electronics (mainboards, etc.) in those new casings, and then even go to the lengths to make counterfeit packaging for these re-manufactured phones that LOOKS like the original manufacturers' retail box for that model, shrink-wrap them, and then (usually) turn around and sell the phone as "new".
These guys are all over eBay and AliExpress (& similar outfits). I was quite stunned when I first ran into this, and realized what was going on. You mean there are enough people that will buy these, and at the prices that they're asking for them, for this to be profitable and worth doing at scale? Amazing.
It's hard to call the entire result "counterfeit" exactly, since there are enough original components in what gets shipped. Honestly, I'm not sure what to call them. But one of the problems is that, as amazing as the work of these refurbishers is, many (most) are being more than a bit deceptive when they go out of their way to re-create the original retail packaging and then list them as "brand new in box / old stock". That's a straight-up lie. (Also, many of them come packaged with very obviously 100% counterfeit accessories, like chargers and earbuds which are made to look like the original OEM accessories *externally*, but which absolutely are not original under-the-hood.)
They don't only deal in Sony phones, but Xperia models do seem to be a big seller for these guys, and I had a couple of Z5 Compact samples pass through my hands a couple of years ago...I got curious and wanted to see for myself what one would actually get if someone were to purchase one of these. My takeaway from this was that it's truly amazing how much attention they pay to certain details on one hand, while they simultaneously cut obvious corners on the other. The back glass wasn't original on either, but it was EASILY the best non-OEM Z5c back glass replica I've ever seen (99.9% of the ones you see listed on eBay -- even the ones that purport to be "original" -- are utter crap). The plastic shell/housing was IMMACULATE and with zero scratches/gouges/markings of any kind, as if they managed to sweet-talk Sony into letting them have the original injection molds...the texture was perfect, the color was 100% spot-on, etc. But the earbuds and charger included in the box were garbage (e.g., the charger was labeled as a genuine Sony QC2.0 model, but the label printing was all smudged up, it got SUPER hot, it felt much lighter and hollower than the genuine article, and I tested it and it NEVER went into Quickcharge mode...counterfeit all the way around), the printed literature that was included didn't look at ALL like what Sony includes in their boxes, the card stock they used for the box itself was thinner, and there are issues with the printing on the box (again: counterfeit).
Anyway, one of the things that struck me was that both of the phones still had their bootloader lock & original contents of the TA partition intact. It got me thinking: hmm, I wonder what the odds of that are?... Not everybody unlocks their bootloaders, of course, but amongst Android users, and perhaps especially among Xperia owners, I get the impression that it's not exactly uncommon. At the same time, preserving one's TA partition -- assuming it's even possible on your specific model -- is knowledge that's obscure enough and fiddly enough to execute on that most people who unlock their Xperia's bootloader probably don't even bother...and not only because of the relative difficulty, but also because they probably don't even realize it's a thing. I'd be shocked if most simply didn't Google "xperia bootloader unlock" and then click the link to the official Sony web page at the top of the results that walks them through how to do it. So if I were a betting man, I'd wager that of all Xperias out there with bootloaders that have been unlocked by their owners, easily the majority of them have permanently lost their DRM keys.
Could it be that these refurbishing shops have somehow found a way to regenerate the contents of the TA partition for the models they remanufacture? It seems hard to believe that they could do this without access to the original Sony root signing keys, but...?
For the longest time, when it came to Xperia flagship models sold by these guys, the Kitakami device family was pretty much where they seemed to have stalled out at, as far as what the newest models were that they were selling. But over the last couple of years, I've seen Tone, Yoshino, and even Tama devices of this caliber now flooding the market. I'm super tempted to pick up, say, an XZ1 Compact that's been refurbished in this way, just to see if it is as good as the Z5c samples I've seen were. But in addition to potentially just providing us with access to tons of cosmetically-flawless stock of XZ1c at somewhat-reasonable prices, I have to wonder if this also provides at least a glimmer of hope that it's *possible* to truly restore all of the software on these models to 100% from-the-factory state (complete with bootloader lock, recomputed DRM keys, etc.). I'd sure love to know where they're finding all of the phones they're rebuilding, what exactly (if anything) the software side of the rebuild process entails, and if they *do* have access to special knowledge or tools, how they acquired them...
If anyone out there has bought one of the reman'd XZ1 Compacts, I'd love to know what your experience has been like.
Here is an interesting Youtube video I found by one of these outfits (perhaps the main one even?), showing them going through a QC checklist on a Z3c post-refurbishment but before being packaged up. It's very interesting...the protective plastic with the incorrect "Xperia Z3 mini" text is very clearly not the same as the original (one of those areas where their attention to detail is less impressive...and interestingly, both of my Z5c samples had the *exact same diagram* on theirs and *also* said "Xperia Z5 mini"), but you can also see a reproduction phone barcode sticker that is laid out to look like what Sony would print and stick on the original retail box.
I think unlocked phones are *very* uncommon.
I've unlocked mine before DRM key backup solution was available. Not really missing those keys TBH.
Indeed incredible that they just seem to recreate the outer casings. It involved making new injection molds and whatnot, although in China that's not that expensive nowadays I think. Especially since many Chinese companies make it their business to produce counterfeit products and probably can do it very efficiently.
As for DRM, I'd be surprised if more than 1% of consumers unlock their bootloader, so I guess it's not that surprising to get them locked from such sources.
Got myself a XZ1c (G8441) from eBay. It was listed as new. The phone itself looks good and seems like new.
It came with UCH20 charger (AC 0061-BR).
Included headphones are MH410c.
Charger and headphones work well, but they have really cheap feel to them. I'm pretty sure they are knockoffs.
Also the user manual is definitely not original Sony manual. Just some generic pictures and text.
I purchased a brand new XZ1c G8441 and everything about it was A1 till my carrier shut down the 2100mhz 3G band and the phone revealed it's true identity as a SO-02K and no longer would make or receive calls. The seller will not respond to my emails so I have no idea as to the history of the phone, but I would be none the wiser, (and totally happy) if the network had not changed. I have been caught with 2 other phones in the same scenario, where they were working and presented as global phone and they all stopped working on the same day.
Which carrier do you have? The conclusion that it's not a legit G8441 feels like an odd one.
Some carriers (I'm looking at you, AT&T) will only do VOLTE on certain phones - even though it supports it.
I've also had very spotty reception in different places, and I'm 99.9% sure I have a G8441. I 100% get LTE on some streets, and on others only 2G.
One of my understandings for a very clear distinction is the existence of NFC on the phone. The SO-02K doesn't have it, nor will it have the stylized N on the back panel. The G8441 will. Mine has it, and I've seen Android recognize it, even though it's not something I normally use. Does yours?
While I suppose it's possible someone took a SO-02K and put it in a G8441 case to resell, the chances of that (and profit, given the work) seem extremely small.
Which might suggest it's carrier issues instead of hardware ones - as does the fact that other phones had similar problems.
Hi, All the things you have questioned are valid questions. My suspicions that the phone is not legitimate was arrived at by multiple components of information. Firstly the fact that the XZ1c no longer works on the Optus network and my XZ1 G8341 still works suggests that the XZ1c does not have the 900mhz band. Secondly the XZ1c is identified as a SO-02K when connected to Sony Xperia companion. Thirdly in the service infounder software the phone identifies as "Docomo=LTECA-user" The XZ1c has the N on the rear cover although I have never been able to get it to work. There is a high likelihood of the XZ1c having a new case as all the phones I have purchased recently that stopped working on calls, all present as new, however, the firmware on the XZ1C is global firmware and the phone presents itself in nearly all ways as a G8441. I had 2 Xperia XZ3s that both had the same firmware, one stopped being able to make calls the other still works. I am 99% sure someone has worked out how to make these phone present as global phones until the hardware restrictions tell the truth.
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While I suppose it's possible someone took a SO-02K and put it in a G8441 case to resell, the chances of that (and profit, given the work) seem extremely small.
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There seems to be a massive amount of "refurbished phones" now on ebay and Aliexpress, that present in every way as new, so it would seem that putting old phones in new cases is the new market that many sellers are jumping on.
Ah, interesting. Yes, if it's presenting to some things as a DO-02K, then that seems possible. Now I'm tempted to check mine. Which is the "service infounder software"? My computer can't run the Xperia Companion.
It's possible the re-casing phones is a thing. I was just surprised people would do it for such an old phone, and that cases would even be findable still. But it's entirely possible I don't know what I'm talking about here.
You get to the service info menu by typing in *#*#7378423#*#* into the keypad on your phone, it will then come up with Service info and Service tests. Service info has a sub menu "software info", The XZ3s that I have where one works one does not, both show in service info the same model and firmware and software. but if I check the IMEI they are 2 different models PM-1150-BV and PM-1155-BV, The 1155 says that NFC is not available in the test whereas the XZ1c has the NFC as testable.
Ah, right. I recall that menu. I've always had trouble getting in to it on my XZ1c. I enter that code, but it rarely pops open, even though other ones like `*#*#4636#*#*` work just fine. I never understood why, and figured it was something with my ROM.
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Ah, right. I recall that menu. I've always had trouble getting in to it on my XZ1c. I enter that code, but it rarely pops open, even though other ones like `*#*#4636#*#*` work just fine. I never understood why, and figured it was something with my ROM.
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It works on my XZ1c, but it is not instant, and can take 10-15 seconds to appear. The XZ2C despite what some say about it, is a better phone in my opinion. the screen is better, more responsive and the phone is generally faster. I just purchased a couple of Samsung S10e phones as the 3G has taken a nose dive in performance for the phones I have that still work. Can take 20 seconds for a call to initiate after pressing send
I did a little more digging, and it's a ROM thing. My ROM doesn't even have the APK, and it won't install since it's missing some xperia library or other. I'm guessing you're stock, or something built on it. That explains why I haven't been able to open it for ages...
Just received from Ebay a new G8441 model from China (13 days to Spain).
It's a real G8441!! and have a 20 band confirmed with NetMonster and always have a LTE 4G.
I also checked Service info/Software info: GLOBAL-LTE4A-user. PM-1061-BV
I also did a factory reset, and it's still G8441.
My main phone is a XZ1 compact for 5 years, and i decided buy a new one, because eco in calls, and gps sometimes works sometimes not.
The new one is exactly the same phone. The only difference is the display, it's not the same, it's a little bit darker, but who cares.

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