Hi all,
i've put an new SD card in my HTC 10. It was said that it would be encrypted, so i thought great, and also that it would behave as an extension of the internal storage, therefore many apps could be installed.
On the contrary, if it is formatted as an external storage, then not all apps accept to be moved onto it, so that even with a huge SD card, i may face a space problem on the internal storage at some point, if i install too many apps there.
Question 1 though: are the photos/videos/screenshots/music etc really stored on the SD ? Or onle once the internal storage is full ?
For example, one of my videos is on /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/100MEDIA/MYVIDEO123.mp4
Is that the SD? or the internal? or is there no possibility to know just from the path?
Question 2: is it true that if i factory reset the phone, the SD card will also loose all its data, photos, videos etc ?
If that is the case, is there any real davantage of using an SD as internal storage ?
A positive scenario i would see is to use it indeed as an internal storage and do online backups of my photos/videos etc.
For the moment i was quite happy with my previous phones to use the SD as external storage and the data there being unaffected by whatever system changes on the phone. A bit like two partitions of a PC. One for the OS and one for the data.
While if i merge the two, even if i can see the advantage of doing that, it's again the old-time merging system and data.
How do you guys deal with that ?
Thanks a lot,
Adrien
About Question 1, you can format it as internal, put that video and simply unmount or eject card. You will see what happen. You can always format that card as portable so you don't lose.
About Q2: From what i know, yes. It's true, because your card is treated as internal storage, so it will be wiped and after that your phone will "say" that your sd card is corrupted. You will need to reformat SD card.
IMO Adopting SD Card as internal memory is a bad idea, at least for me. OK, you will have encrypted data and unusable in another phone, but SD cards aren't "speed demons", and for me SD cards are intended as portable data storage, not as internal memory.
ShadoV90 said:
About Question 1, you can format it as internal, put that video and simply unmount or eject card. You will see what happen. You can always format that card as portable so you don't lose.
About Q2: From what i know, yes. It's true, because your card is treated as internal storage, so it will be wiped and after that your phone will "say" that your sd card is corrupted. You will need to reformat SD card.
IMO Adopting SD Card as internal memory is a bad idea, at least for me. OK, you will have encrypted data and unusable in another phone, but SD cards aren't "speed demons", and for me SD cards are intended as portable data storage, not as internal memory.
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Thank you ShadoV90. That makes things clearer for me.
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This is my first Android Phone without an SD card slot (Had Samsung Galaxy, Thunderbolt and Bionic before). Trying to understand. Is the Internal Storage a physical storage medium like you find in the iPhone or is it an internal SD card? Some people talk about virtual SD drive and partitioning. Am I able to partition the internal storage so that part of it will work like an external SD card and does not get erased with ROM upgrades? Thanks
GermanGuy said:
This is my first Android Phone without an SD card slot (Had Samsung Galaxy, Thunderbolt and Bionic before). Trying to understand. Is the Internal Storage a physical storage medium like you find in the iPhone or is it an internal SD card? Some people talk about virtual SD drive and partitioning. Am I able to partition the internal storage so that part of it will work like an external SD card and does not get erased with ROM upgrades? Thanks
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the internal memory is a nand chip, it's much better than having a microsd card like the HD7 and mozart, as it runs much faster, and less error.
but not too sure about partitioning it, as you only get about just over 13GB users memory.
Is it possible to start saving everything to the SD card rather than the internal memory? For example, I want to use the downloads folder on my SD card rather than the internal memory, and I want to have app links that go directly to the SD card rather than the internal memory. I basically just want to use the SD card for storing everything and not have anything on the internal memory.
Is there a way to do that?
Thanks
I even need to know any such way out
Hi I was hoping someone would know how to do this.
I have a slight issue on my HTC One M8 the charging port isn't working anymore and I will get the port replaced.
However in the meantime the micro SD was used as internal storage I have a lot of media on there I wish to keep and when inserting the SD card into a pc or another phone it's unable to read the SD card. Probably replacing the port once its fixed will solve the problem but in the meantime does anyone know of anyway how to view the contents of the SD card from inserting the memory card into a pc?
Help with this would be much appreciated thanks.
ToneyEricsson said:
However in the meantime the micro SD was used as internal storage I have a lot of media on there I wish to keep and when inserting the SD card into a pc or another phone it's unable to read the SD card.
does anyone know of anyway how to view the contents of the SD card from inserting the memory card into a pc?
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You can't do this (mount on PC) once you've selected to use the SD as internal storage. That is the whole point of using it as internal storage, the SD is an "extension" of the phone's internal storage. Only part of the files are on the SD, and some are on the phone's built-in storage. And the way computers write files, there is nothing saying that the fragments of a file are in any one location (part of a file may be on SD, part may be on the phone's built-in storage).
Stated more simply, the SD is now just part of a whole. By taking it out, you now just have a part of the whole; therefore breaking it, so it can't be read on a PC.
That's why there are two options given in Marshmallow when you insert an SD, to format as internal or removable storage. You can't have both. By picking internal storage, by definition, its not removable (can't be read by another device once its removed).
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You can't do this (mount on PC) once you've selected to use the SD as internal storage. That is the whole point of using it as internal storage, the SD is an "extension" of the phone's internal storage. Only part of the files are on the SD, and some are on the phone's built-in storage. And the way computers write files, there is nothing saying that the fragments of a file are in any one location (part of a file may be on SD, part may be on the phone's built-in storage).
Stated more simply, the SD is now just part of a whole. By taking it out, you now just have a part of the whole; therefore breaking it, so it can't be read on a PC.
That's why there are two options given in Marshmallow when you insert an SD, to format as internal or removable storage. You can't have both. By picking internal storage, by definition, its not removable (can't be read by another device once its removed).
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Thanks for clarifying I have the port in for repair and the technician said he won't be hard resetting the phone so hopefully I'll be able to still get into the SD card after.
Hello,
i have been using adoptable storage for a while and i like it.
My adopted card however is getting close to full so i would like to switch to a larger one.
Has anyone done this? Is there anyway to transfer the data from the old to the new adopted card?
I dont have enough space on the phone memory itself to move everything back to the internal storage.
i can move pics and music to an hdd but not sure about apps and associated data that is on the card.
Thanks in advance!
You can send all files in sd card with a secondary app like zapya to computer and resend them to sd card when you adopted new sd card in your phone
Have you looked at HTC SyncManager?
I wasnt aware of these options i will look into them and report.
Thank you
Shouldn't it work if you just copy everything on your SD card to a PC, place the new SD card, format it as internal storage, copy everything back and restart?
I'm not sure if this works, but your apps are still installed on internal storage, only app data is placed on SD card.
Check settings > storage
If you tap on your internal storage, there should be some GB at apps and just a few MB on your SD card.
Maik268 said:
Shouldn't it work if you just copy everything on your SD card to a PC, place the new SD card, format it as internal storage, copy everything back and restart?
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Except that pulling the adopted storage eviscerates the file system...
The only strategy I could fathom would be to duplicate the image onto the new SD card plugged in USB-OTG. If that were even possible, a concern would be changes during copy, making it inconsistent.
converted to adoptable storage but no data import option in the SD Card in storage
I am using a Samsung galaxy S5 and i converted my SD card to adoptable storage using adb shell process. after that there are two options showing in storage settings, internal storage and SD card.
Is it converted to Adoptable storage? If yes then why is there no option of importing data in the menu of 'SD card' storage option.
and how can i transfer from internal to SD card. or can make use of adoptable storage properly?
Anyone using this? If so, any drawbacks? I hate having to split internal memory with SD space, it would just be easier if there was one space for all my data. Wondering why anyone wouldn't do this. Also, is there a specific SD card recommended? Appreciate all the feedback, thanks guys!
The speed of launching/updating apps for example can be a drawback if you're using a slow SD card.
As for what SD card you should use, something that has as high 4KB random read and write speeds as possible.
Manufacturer's don't advertise these numbers so you need to find the information yourself. That's basically hoping that some kind soul has benchmarked the SD card you're looking at.
For reference the internal storage is capable of around 10MB/s in both read and write in 4KB random.
The best microSD cards I've seen have about 10MB/s read and 5MB/s write. That would be the 64GB Samsung Pro Plus.
Not the best but really good ones have anywhere between 8-10MB/s and 3-4MB/s write. That would include for example the regular 64GB Pro from Samsung, Sandisk's Extreme Plus U1/U3 64GB and the Extreme Pro.
If the SD card has under 2MB/s 4KB random write speeds I wouldn't personally even bother.
Also another thing worth pointing out that 4KB random write speed with SD cards is always slower than the read speed is.
I was tempted to use this but the drawbacks have me keeping it as external, which some applications require:
TWRP backups
Titanium Backup backups
Flashing RUU, update zips
Ability to plug into a PC directly
My other concern is that if it were to glitch, the problems that would cause could ruin a weekend.
I figured I'll leave it external unless I have a compelling reason to adopt it.
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I was tempted to use this but the drawbacks have me keeping it as external, which some applications require:
TWRP backups
Titanium Backup backups
Flashing RUU, update zips
Ability to plug into a PC directly
My other concern is that if it were to glitch, the problems that would cause could ruin a weekend.
I figured I'll leave it external unless I have a compelling reason to adopt it.
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Why do you need your sd-card as external with TWRP and Titanium Backup?
In TWRP you can choose between internal storage and sd-card, even it's formatted as internal storage and in Titanium Backup you can choose your destination folder.
I'm using my sd-card as internal storage and I can't feel much difference in speed (you have to use a fast sd-card).
For flashing RUUs and zips... Yes, this is not possible (you have to format your sd-card to ext3 in TWRP for it to work), but I'm using custom ROMs, so it's not important for me.
Well, Ability to plug into a PC directly... If you need it you should use your sd-card as external storage.
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Why do you need your sd-card as external with TWRP and Titanium Backup?
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Because a backup is no good if it gets wiped or corrupted along with the rest of internal storage or if the only OS/configuration that can read it becomes unavailable/unusable.
A backup device has to be separate from the thing its backing up, not integral to it.
That's what OTG and thumb drives are good for. I've never backed up to internal or SD card for that matter.
Backup to thumb drive with md5 and plug it in to your computer which most of the time has exponentially more storage available and check the md5 after it's transferred to the computer. Then I'll throw a copy of that backup to cloud storage after encrypting it just for good measure.
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That's what OTG and thumb drives are good for. I've never backed up to internal or SD card for that matter.
Backup to thumb drive with md5 and plug it in to your computer which most of the time has exponentially more storage available and check the md5 after it's transferred to the computer. Then I'll throw a copy of that backup to cloud storage after encrypting it just for good measure.
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I thought of that but that's a lot more work for no gain and it won't work in the field, away from the desktop.
A 128GB SD card lets me do everything on the phone without worrying about space.
TWRP and TiBkp have an option to encrypt backups, which I use since I don't use encryption on the external SD card itself.
64Gb SanDisk Ultra convert to adoptable storage runs really bad. facebook lags, crashes, freezes.
UFS card should be out for adoptable storage.
umbrokhan said:
64Gb SanDisk Ultra convert to adoptable storage runs really bad. facebook lags, crashes, freezes.
UFS card should be out for adoptable storage.
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I'm using the same sd card as adopted storage without any problems.
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I'm using the same sd card as adopted storage without any problems.
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have you tried facebook app or any heavy app on adoptable storage ?
the app is install on internal storage and data is install on SD card... do i have to change permission for the app. like for example storage location ?
umbrokhan said:
have you tried facebook app or any heavy app on adoptable storage ?
the app is install on internal storage and data is install on SD card... do i have to change permission for the app. like for example storage location ?
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I'm using facebook and some other heavy apps (for example games) every day and I have no lags (except sometimes if it loads new content from the internet, but this has nothing to do with the sd card).
But not a single crash!
There are no permissions you have to change. Maybe try to backup all your data on your sd card and format it again as adopted storage.