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Hi guys, I one month ago I bought my google pixel XL from a cash converters seller on ebay UK used, I've been using it and today its been blocked. Obviously the previous owner has ran an insurance fraud scam saying that their phone has been stolen, getting a new phone and the money for selling the phone and thus leaving me with an unsable phone.
I just want to ask, does anyone know of the IMEI repair services? Can I fix the IMEI on my phone, get it removed from the blacklist. Is there any recourse for having my phone back working again?
Thanks in advance.
Please help, I just lost out on £450.

If you bought a stolen phone you can't do anything except contacting the seller and get your money back. If he don't want to do it, go to the police.

@usynn,
Contact eBay. They have a buyer protection plan that should refund at least part of your money.

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cam30era said:
@usynn,
Contact eBay. They have a buyer protection plan that should refund at least part of your money.
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the seller, cash converters its sort of a pawn shop, didn't sell me a stolen phone it was reported stolen after a while. anyway i received my refund upon return so no issues there. i've bought myself a brand new samsung galaxy s8 plus im happy with.

usynn said:
the seller, cash converters its sort of a pawn shop, didn't sell me a stolen phone it was reported stolen after a while. anyway i received my refund upon return so no issues there. i've bought myself a brand new samsung galaxy s8 plus im happy with.
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congrats on a happy ending! glad it worked out for you, how are you liking your s8+?

don't really like it tbh
fatapia said:
congrats on a happy ending! glad it worked out for you, how are you liking your s8+?
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after using the pixel XL. i hated it. now i sort of like it however i don't LOVE it. However i do know any non google branded phone will become slow, start to lag and stutter after about 6-9 months of use so I'm waiting for the pixel 2 to come out. but i heard that wont have many design changes? So the big big under the screen like the Pixel XL is here to stay?

usynn said:
after using the pixel XL. i hated it. now i sort of like it however i don't LOVE it. However i do know any non google branded phone will become slow, start to lag and stutter after about 6-9 months of use so I'm waiting for the pixel 2 to come out. but i heard that wont have many design changes? So the big big under the screen like the Pixel XL is here to stay?
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I never had a problem with any non Google phone that I've ever owned start to lag or stutter after 6-9 months of use but it probably depends on how you use it. If you run a custom Rom and clean flash instead of dirty it gives your phone a fresh start with every update. If you run stock you should use a good utility once in a while like SD Maid to clean out the junk files and cache that accumulates over time. If you still notice a problem just factory reset the phone. There's nothing magical about Google phones that makes them run better over time. If anything with their recent phones exactly the opposite is true--the Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P didn't even work for much more than a year for many users before going into permanent bootloops. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Pixel XL ends up doing the same. At least Samsung phones (with the exception of the one that blew up) actually last until you get sick of them and are ready to upgrade. Google forces you to upgrade by selling phones that self destruct.

Do these Sammy people never give up?
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bobby janow said:
Do these Sammy people never give up?
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^^^ This

jhs39 said:
At least Samsung phones (with the exception of the one that blew up).....
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Thats a pretty big exception there. You can't ignore phones blowing up and a total worldwide recall just to make your point.

Is the Pixel 2 xl worth $900

Ok so most of us has had our pixels for a few weeks now, do you think it's worth $900. Honest answers please.....

Absolutely. It has everything I want in a phone and has the exact form factor I want it in(I hate edge display and am not a fan of bezel-less deisgns from day to day use). I'm getting a minimum of 3 years of OS updates, 3 years of monthly security updates, chat or phone call support, and unlimited full resolution photo uploads. It's going to take something really magical to come out for me to switch to another device. I thought the 6P would fit the bill for a long term device for me, but that S10 was a throttling POS. Thought the original Pixel would have been a long term phone, but I REALLY missed front facing stereo speakers. Any other phones out there will not be supported over 3 years and I refuse to get burned by a company that drops support on their products again. Is this device perfect out of the box.....no. Then again not one phone is. Most of the issues reported are not anything I notice in day to day use or I have remedied myself( for example using the original Pixel cable for Android Auto stopped the crashes). I love it.

The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.

Hardware worth the value? Absolutely not,
but Software worth the value, Yes as @AndrasLOHF said. I agree especially with front-facing speaker. Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, Unlimited photo storage etc. I have one so I can run stock latest android software this year, and the camera.

as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.

Absolutely for me especially with the trade in... which makes it a more reasonable price!
Like front ? ?, Stock, fast, unlockable bootloader, and unlimited photo storage...

Yes, I think it is worth the asking price... For me it's the only natural progression from my 6P (personally, the best phone I've owned) which includes 3 years of updates /upgrades..

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as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now

Nope, but it's worth $575 which is what I'll cost me after getting $425 back from T-Mobile

phyl0x said:
as a owner, i'd say its overpriced. if you win the screen lottery its overall a great phone, but its hard to justify it in a pure cost comparison to an iphone 8+ or a galaxy s8+. I just happened to like pure android and the developer community of nexus/pixel phones, so thats the only reason i can justify the price, but i wouldn't recommend it to family or friends unless i knew they were android enthusiasts.
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I totally agree with you, pure Android is the reason I went ahead and purchased the 2 xl coming from the essential phone. The essential phone is a beautiful phone, now that it has 8.0 I almost hate I purchased the pixel now lol. Oh well I have both now I'm ?

Probably not worth $900. None of the phones out are. They all do what your last phone did. Every phone discounts soon after launch. The early adopters pay the high amounts. Samsung BOGO, or savings off the note 8 if you had a note 7. Essential discounted after release. Lg discounted after release. Pixel 2 $375 just to bring it Tmobile. Just wait a month once the phone you want comes out. Tough I know but some of the pixel 2 are already cheaper on swappa then the Google store.

Lucky for me I found a guy selling the pixel 2 xl on craigslist for $700 but I offered him $500 and he text me back a day later asking for $550 ?. Been loving it ever since, currently got my essential phone on eBay and it's up to $450 with a day to go.

Is it worth 900? Everything inside of me says NO however I bought the thing, I love it and I would buy it again if I broke or lost this phone. So I guess money speaks louder than words in this scenario. The software just blows everything else out of the water. Id love to have the Iphone Xs 4k @ 60fps, The LG V30's SD card slot, headphone jack and quad dac but I would still pick the pixel 2 XL over any of those due to the overall experience.

In Switzerland it's 1 109 Dollar, very expensive but i love it so far

luciusfox said:
The definition of value is what a willing buyer is prepared to pay to a willing seller.
The seller is definitely willing, duh, so... the answer is that it is worth the price to everyone who bought one without being under duress.
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+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.

It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.

dinkoh said:
+1. That being said, compared to the other phones out there, I don't think $900 is a good value for the phone., especially with all this QC problems As for me, I have this dumb urge to buy the newest tech.
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I think that quality control problems are massively overblown.
Mine, for the record, is flawless. Have NOT done any exchange.
I think that there are two things that are contributing to people's perceptions being skewed on these (which isn't to say that there aren't a few that are genuinely defective).
1) It is a little bit weird when you suddenly find yourself looking through a circular polarization filter. It does cause a slight color shift at hard angles.. but that's the nature of having a circular polarization filter, which is a tradeoff for people who wear polarized glasses so that they can actually see it at all orientations. I suspect that people who do a few trade-ins eventually get used to the effect, which is why their final replacement is probably not as "bad" as the first one. I know that I've gotten so used to it now that I have to intentionally look for it now... oh yeah, that's what it does!
2) The application drawer has a very slight transparency to it. That means that you can see the image behind it very slightly -- and it looks like burn-in.
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BabelHuber said:
It's not worth its price, and I knew it when I bought it.
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You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact.
I bought it nevertheless, and I'm pretty satisfied. The camera is absolutely great on 8.1 DP2 with HDR+. Magisk also works fine flawlessly.
Everything is smooth and fast, also GPS is working very well. Battery runtime is also great.
The only problem I have is with the BT connection with my car. Media playback doesn't work at all, phone calls work when I switch to airplane mode before turning on BT after starting my car, though.
Overall, I'd buy it again, I assume Google will fix the BT stack eventually.
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.

I picked up a Pixel 2 XL during Verizon's $300 off promotion. I also have a Note 8 to compare it to. I don't think any phone, especially the iPhone X, is worth $900-1000. A more reasonable amount would be $600-700 and payment plans play a big role in the upped prices this year. The OnePlus 5T at $300+ less than other flagships with similar specs, also makes you wonder. The Note 8 does feel more premium than the Pixel 2 XL, but the software experience on the Pixel 2 XL is the best I've ever seen.
A good indication of where thing are heading is that one can get a brand new LG G5 for $230, an S7 for $400, or an S8 for $575. Getting last year's models or waiting until a phone has been out 6 months is especially cost effective.

You can't have it both ways. If you decided to buy it, then IT IS worth the price. That is a technical fact..
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No.
I did not want a Samsung or LG anymore, I wanted something with good developer support.
So when I changed my contract I could get a new phone. Samsung and LG were out, OnePlus was not available at T-Mobile Germany. The Nokia 8 has a locked bootloader. So the choice was between the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL. The OnePlus 5T without contract was more expensive than the Pixels with contract.
So I shelled out €400, what else should I have done?
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The BT issues are affecting EVERYTHING running 8.x, and they are quite aware of it, so yeah, I would anticipate that they get sorted out fairly soon. Hopefully.
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I hope so, so far I haven't managed to get Bluetooth audio playback working in my car.

It's worth the 765 I paid, plus the trade in for my P XL makes it a reasonable enough upgrade at 350.

Trade-in with Google or sell on Swappa or even craigslist?

Let's say I wanna get the Pixel 3 XL (yeah, even with that notch). Would you rather trade-in your current Pixel 2 xl with Google itself OR sell on Swappa or craigslist? or anywhere else?
1 . The phone is all stock, will be giving the Caseology case with it too and also two D-brand skins.
2. Inlcuding adapter, charger and cable.
3. Minor scratch on left side of the bottom speaker grill; not in the display area. Could post a picture when I have a second device to do so
Also, not sure what my next phone could be. Could be Note 9 or OP 6t too. Just not sure right now. But I am sure I am upgrading this year.

Aaditya91 said:
Let's say I wanna get the Pixel 3 XL (yeah, even with that notch). Would you rather trade-in your current Pixel 2 xl with Google itself OR sell on Swappa or craigslist? or anywhere else?
1 . The phone is all stock, will be giving the Caseology case with it too and also two D-brand skins.
2. Inlcuding adapter, charger and cable.
3. Minor scratch on left side of the bottom speaker grill; not in the display area. Could post a picture when I have a second device to do so
Also, not sure what my next phone could be. Could be Note 9 or OP 6t too. Just not sure right now. But I am sure I am upgrading this year.
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I don't know what these phones are selling for on Swappa or Craigslist, but last year, Google gave $400-450 (can't remember which for sure) for a pixel xl trade in, as long as the screen wasn't cracked and the phone worked. Since the 2's were more expensive, that number may be higher. I'm betting you'll get more from Google (and it'll be easier). If I end up getting the 3 xl, I'm just trading it in with Google.

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I don't know what these phones are selling for on Swappa or Craigslist, but last year, Google gave $400-450 (can't remember which for sure) for a pixel xl trade in, as long as the screen wasn't cracked and the phone worked. Since the 2's were more expensive, that number may be higher. I'm betting you'll get more from Google (and it'll be easier). If I end up getting the 3 xl, I'm just trading it in with Google.
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Have been thinking the same too. Plus Swappa and craigslist looks more work! hehe... and you never know how long the ad might just sit there. Right?

Aaditya91 said:
Have been thinking the same too. Plus Swappa and craigslist looks more work! hehe... and you never know how long the ad might just sit there. Right?
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I've had phones sit for 3 weeks before. And I've never gotten $400 for a phone. Most have been two years old though. Anyway, I'm going with less work for sure!

They gave me $430 trade in last year for my Pixel XL. Might do the same this year pending details and specs....

Looking at other's posts, it may be worth it to wait and see what Google offers for trade.
If you decide to sell, I recommend swappa.
I have bought 22 devices and sold 21, since December of 2012. I've only had minor issues, a couple times, which were resolved to my satisfaction. BTW, all of these sales and purchases were for my or my family's personal use. I'm an not a dealer / reseller in any way.
I just bought my first Pixel 2 XL a couple weeks ago, on swappa. It was in good shape (only one minor scratch on screen) and one bezel nick with two cases, original box and all accessories, for $460.

I'm going to see what Google offers for the 2 XL. Now I'm just thinking do I want 3 XL or 3? Leaning towards a smaller phone this go around.

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I'm going to see what Google offers for the 2 XL. Now I'm just thinking do I want 3 XL or 3? Leaning towards a smaller phone this go around.
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Yeah, looks like I'm gonna see what Google has tomorrow & what they offer for trade in. I do want a screen as big as now (6 inch) or bigger. So it has to be something like the Pixel 3 XL (never minded any notches), Note 9 or OP 6t. However, I never liked one thing about Samsung phones. Being a heavy user in the past of Samsung phones (S3, S5, S6 edge plus), I know for sure the amount of bloatware that comes with them, even if it is the latest flagship & an unlocked device; then there is the forever wait for the software updates too, etc. That is why I do want a phone with stock or at least close to stock android UX.
Then there is OP; great software experience which is close to stock and cheap! BUT that is exactly the problem. In the past, some teardowns of the One plus devices have shown the material quality used in production of these devices is really mediocre. Example like wiring, semi conductor materials, metal quality, etc.
So in the end, guess what? Pixel 3 XL remains. Let's see!

So long as google doesnt botch the trade-ins again this year (I waited months to get my credit, as did many others), it will be the same or better than swappa, once you deduct swappa fees, most likely paypal fees, and the hassle of shipping it out.
Google sends you all you need for the trade-in at no cost to you.

After watching the last leak, I can see how huge that 3Xl is, although the notch doesn't bother me and the display looks good. But dang I might downsize and go with the 3. I guess I'll know in a few hours

So if I decide to pull the trigger today and then trade my 2XL in does anyone know what happens with preferred care? Do they give you a refund prorated back, apply it to preferred on the 3XL, or is there something manual to do? Thanks

Trade in for Pixel 2 XL is only $325! I'll either sell it or give to my daughter

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Trade in for Pixel 2 XL is only $325! I'll either sell it or give to my daughter
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IKR
Far less than what I got for my Pixel XL going to 2XL
Looks like I will pass on this one.

blcklab said:
Trade in for Pixel 2 XL is only $325! I'll either sell it or give to my daughter
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The pixel 2 xl 64gb is $325, 128gb is $335
The pixel 2 64gb is $300, 128gb is $327
The pixel xl 32gb is $130, 128gb is $154
The pixel 32gb is $119, 128gb is $124

Yeah mine is 64gb. I feel like I got a better trader in plus the Google home mini going from an og pixel to pixel 2 XL.
As I recall they charged your card when it shipped. That's how many of us knew ours was shipping. Looks like they charged right away this time.
I went with the 2Xl in the end. I like the notifications tucked in the corners and it was only $100 for 64gb.

Just received a Google email for a $50 store credit on a Pixel 3. whoopty doo!

Any idea if 2XL case will fit? They're only $10-15 so no big deal if not

galaxys said:
Just received a Google email for a $50 store credit on a Pixel 3. whoopty doo!
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Oh C'mon bruh! You know that's the best deal in the world! ???

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Any idea if 2XL case will fit? They're only $10-15 so no big deal if not
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Some may, it depends on how the case handles the buttons. The 3XL buttons are in slightly different position than 2XL. The 3XL buttons also appear to be very slightly smaller.
I ordered a spigen rugged armor for the 3 XL, it just came today.
The phones look to be identical in size, just with different button offsets, so if the 2XL case has openings for the buttons as opposed to covering them it would probably work. If anything it may need a small trim to accomodate the buttons.

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I ordered a spigen rugged armor for the 3 XL, it just came today.
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Thanks for the tip. I like Spigen and caselogic products. I'll check out what is available

Getting a Pixel XL October 2019

I found a deal on a Pixel XL for $110 and am thinking about buying it. I'm wondering if it's still worth it or should I wait and save up for another phone?
I'm currently using a LG Stylo 4 on boost Mobile and I hate the phone and the service. I only got it because I needed a new phone in a pinch.
I used to have the redmi note 4 on metro pcs and I loved the phone and the service. I've been looking at the Mi 9T but it will take me awhile to get the $300-$400 to buy it and I'm really sick of my LG and boost.
Just trying to get some opinions.

get it won't be disappointed

@NewbRooter89
I'm about to get a used pixel as well. Either a Pixel XL or a Pixel 2 XL. I've seen the Pixel 2XL in good condition on swappa for $150-165 every now and then... Currently over on swappa all the 2XLs they have currently listed are $200+ but the last one that sold was $157. I may end up getting a XL instead. The XL is the way to go on the og Pixel and the pixel 2. I owned every Nexus ever made and haven't owned a Pixel device yet but definitely look forward to it. Good luck on getting a great deal. They're out there just gotta look around. I've seen people drop a price -$100 on swappa more than once just because someone makes an offer in the comments. That's what I'm doing. Making offers and waiting for "the one." Haha.

My GPXL gets super hot and battery drain fast after updating to Android 10 ?

ANTICHRISTJC said:
My GPXL gets super hot and battery drain fast after updating to Android 10 ?
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Are you sure you don't have a virus? I'd factory reset it and format data and wipe internal storage if I were you and restore my backup afterwards or maybe ever start from scratch. Phones being hot can mean a few things. It could be some sort of virus, it could be a not so good signal or if you used an aftermarket charger it could mess up the battery because they aren't rated same as the ones that come with our devices. I'd wipe it clean and start over and see if it still gets hot and battery dies quickly. If so I'd get another oem battery off eBay and see if that solves it. Battery dying quick and heat point to virus....
Then again if others are having same issues then may be a 10 thing and will get worked out soon I'm sure.

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Are you sure you don't have a virus? I'd factory reset it and format data and wipe internal storage if I were you and restore my backup afterwards or maybe ever start from scratch. Phones being hot can mean a few things. It could be some sort of virus, it could be a not so good signal or if you used an aftermarket charger it could mess up the battery because they aren't rated same as the ones that come with our devices. I'd wipe it clean and start over and see if it still gets hot and battery dies quickly. If so I'd get another oem battery off eBay and see if that solves it. Battery dying quick and heat point to virus....
Then again if others are having same issues then may be a 10 thing and will get worked out soon I'm sure.
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You get a thumbs up.

I've had mine for about two weeks and I absolutely love it. If you want root, make ABSOLUTE sure you get a Google version and not a Verizon version. I made that mistake and had to get another one for $150. The trick posted here no longer works, so don't think you can get away with cheaping out on a Verizon.

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The batteries on original Pixels are 3 years old now, maybe it's the battery getting warm and needs to be replaced???
I replaced my battery for different reasons and don't have heat issues with my Pixel XL.

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The batteries on original Pixels are 3 years old now, maybe it's the battery getting warm and need to be replaced???
I replaced my battery for different reasons and don't have heat issues with the phone.
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That's what I thought... I waiting for my battery kit I ordered from ifixit.. hope this can fix my problem. ?

Well I ended up getting a NEW Pixel XL for $135. Every time I wrote in response to an ad on Pixel 2 & 2XL to confirm they were not refurbished units or not Verizon units I either never received a reply or whoever it was wasn't 100% sure they didn't fall into the encrypted bootloader category which refurbished 2 & 2XLs have the encrypted bootloader as well or the write up said nothing about being a Verizon unlocked device and it was which gave me anxiety about ordering at all and all the 2 & 2XLs on Swappa had scratches on the screen or looked like someone tossed em down the hallway or something so I guess it just wasn't meant to be, not for now anyway... But I'm happy with my XL! I'll use my it and save up for a new Pixel on down the road in some months. Sure is great to be back onboard! I had every Nexus there ever was starting with the G1 but I stopped with the 6p and the 5x. Can't believe I've been using non Nexus/Pixel devices since 2016!! I hated every one of em too. ??? I think maybe every year when the new Pixels come out im going to purchase last year's XL model and every year sell em and throw a lil money in with whatever I get for my phone and get another year old model...

My Pixel XL should be here Monday. It's an Amazon renewed phone so hopefully it's not on ****ty condition or I will be sending it back. I'm excited to have a phone I can root again and I'm excited to get back on metro pcs again.
I'm also pretty excited to have an AMOLED screen, 4gb of ram, and a good camera. None of the phones I've had in the past could take good pictures. My wife uses an iPhone 7 and it takes pretty damn good pictures. It was the only thing her phone(s) ever had on mine, lol.
Boost has been terrible. I'm an Uber driver so having a good connection and fast phone is essential. This LG Stylo 4 has potential but with a locked bootloader and so full of bloatware, is just been hard to use. Especially on boost's network.
Thanks for the input everyone. Love this site and what everyone contributes!

NewbRooter89 said:
My Pixel XL should be here Monday. It's an Amazon renewed phone so hopefully it's not on ****ty condition or I will be sending it back. I'm excited to have a phone I can root again and I'm excited to get back on metro pcs again.
I'm also pretty excited to have an AMOLED screen, 4gb of ram, and a good camera. None of the phones I've had in the past could take good pictures. My wife uses an iPhone 7 and it takes pretty damn good pictures. It was the only thing her phone(s) ever had on mine, lol.
Boost has been terrible. I'm an Uber driver so having a good connection and fast phone is essential. This LG Stylo 4 has potential but with a locked bootloader and so full of bloatware, is just been hard to use. Especially on boost's network.
Thanks for the input everyone. Love this site and what everyone contributes!
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You're going to LOVE it!!!!!! I was away from Nexus since they started making Pixel's and now that I'm back onboard I feel dumb for staying out of the loop for so long. I honesty did not know just how much a phone from 2016 was going to impress me and getting my XL I was blown away! This is what I refer to as the real Android experience. I just installed Lineage 17 last night and although it has no features yet from Lineage 16 and is pretty much a base I'm good man and its great! Pixel will be all I use from now on. Saving for a new 4XL now. You will be one happy camper soon.

ANTICHRISTJC said:
My GPXL gets super hot and battery drain fast after updating to Android 10 ?
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I haven't had that problem on mine after the update.

NewbRooter89 said:
My Pixel XL should be here Monday. It's an Amazon renewed phone so hopefully it's not on ****ty condition or I will be sending it back. I'm excited to have a phone I can root again and I'm excited to get back on metro pcs again.
I'm also pretty excited to have an AMOLED screen, 4gb of ram, and a good camera. None of the phones I've had in the past could take good pictures. My wife uses an iPhone 7 and it takes pretty damn good pictures. It was the only thing her phone(s) ever had on mine, lol.
Boost has been terrible. I'm an Uber driver so having a good connection and fast phone is essential. This LG Stylo 4 has potential but with a locked bootloader and so full of bloatware, is just been hard to use. Especially on boost's network.
Thanks for the input everyone. Love this site and what everyone contributes!
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I bet you will get a Verizon model. Check if OEM Unlock is grayed out in Developer Options as soon as you get it. But if you don't care about Root/ROM, then it doesn't matter. It's a great phone and you will be very happy.

I got 2 verizon pixels a year ago, so android 8.1, and the phone trick worked to unlock them then. I would guess if either of you get a verizon one you could fastboot back to 8.1, unlock it then re-upgrade it

I got my pixel today and it was not a Verizon one. I already rooted it too! So far I love it. Since it was a Amazon renewed phone it did have some small scratches on the screen but when the screen is turned on, you can't even notice them.
I can already tell how much faster this phone is though. It's so snappy and smooth. Now I just need to get actual service for it lol.
It came with 3 free months of Mint Mobile and from what I've researched they use T-Mobile towers and I think I'm going to try it out. I was going to go with metro pcs which also runs on T-Mobile towers but I mind as well try Mint considering it's free.

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Get a new XL. I got mine off eBay for $135 brand new in original box just like it was purchased on day 1 when they came out. Great device imo!!
I looked around for about a month before finding the deal I found. It was worth it imo.

flash713 said:
Get a new XL. I got mine off eBay for $135 brand new in original box just like it was purchased on day 1 when they came out. Great device imo!!
I looked around for about a month before finding the deal I found. It was worth it imo.
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How can one telling they are truly new unused etc?
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How can one telling they are truly new unused etc?
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I'm not ? sure but if it's not a new one then the guy sure fooled me. ? The way it came was exactly as a device would ship new from Google. That is a good question. Person I purchased from had like the most perfect rating I'd ever seen on eBay. I always ask questions when I buy something regardless of what the item info reads on whatever it is .. My XL had Android 8.10 on it when I received it. ? Do you know the answer to the question or were you asking? I'll see what I can find searching the subject. I'm sure there are ways and info on this.

General Google is sending REFURBISHED replacements

Have the Pixel 6 Pro here, noticed that when I open the camera sometimes it will just freeze up and reboot. Does this about 10 times a day. I tried reflashing the FULL OTA and Factory Images to no avail thinking it was software.
So after two hours last night of waiting to talk to customer service I tell them my issue and without hesitation she said "We will send you a new replacement phone." But it's gone be a minute and I said that's fine. I then ...and message her and go "Is it a refurbished phone a new one." She tells me they do not GIVE you a NEW phone even if it is DEFECTIVE they send you a REFURBISHED.
I told her absolutely NO thanks, in the kindest way possible, and asked if cancellation was an option, I explained I did NOT spend $1100 for a refurbished phone. Absolutely no way. She then goes on to tell me that she understands AND AGREES and that she will ask and get back to me in a few days if they can send me a NEW new one. I said if she has to jump through hoops it legit is olay to cancel it. I refuse to spend that much and have a frankenphone. You dig?
Buttt anywhooo, Just lettin y'all know...if your phone is bork, they gone sendja a refurb. You need to ASK for a new. Unless it's past the first 15 days or whatnot then you HAVE to get a refurb. But I can't live with that fact.

I would feel the same way. If using a credit card to buy a phone, some credit cards have rules which would give you options to get your money back as well, if it gets past the 15 days.
I'm really not surprised that they would do this, however. Just sucks every company would do the same thing.

roirraW edor ehT said:
I would feel the same way. If using a credit card to buy a phone, some credit cards have rules which would give you options to get your money back as well, if it gets past the 15 days.
I'm really not surprised that they would do this, however. Just sucks every company would do the same thing.
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I'm not mad? It's just kinda like really? I had two phones in the past that I bought new from Motorola and Oneplus that sent me brand new replacements. And my oneplus I owned for two MONTHS. I have had my 6 pro for 11 days I believe? It's just kinda like WOW. Haha my girlfriend and I were like no... we're not mad, but just cancel it.

Out of curiosity, for the sake of science, do you mind posting the logcat output capturing a few of these camera freeze up and reboot occurrences? Thanks

I'm surprised they would even have any refurbs at this time. When I did multiple replacements for my 2XL in a 2-3 month period from launch I was always sent a brand new retail package. Considering the supply issue and how popular the phone is. I would imagine they probably don't have many if any refurbs in stock to send out for warranty.

Or going by factory seconds where some did not make it out due to quality assurance checks, some phones are just born "frankenphones" at the factory itself.

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I'm surprised they would even have any refurbs at this time. When I did multiple replacements for my 2XL in a 2-3 month period from launch I was always sent a brand new retail package. Considering the supply issue and how popular the phone is. I would imagine they probably don't have many if any refurbs in stock to send out for warranty.
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Could have been as simple as already returned phones (for any reason, not even necessarily anything wrong with the phone) that the package was already opened / phone already removed from the packaging, etc, and needing minimal re-certification.
I still wouldn't want such a "refurb" so soon after buying the phone new, but there are lots of reasons why they might have phones they consider refurb in stock.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Could have been as simple as already returned phones (for any reason, not even necessarily anything wrong with the phone) that the package was already opened / phone already removed from the packaging, etc, and needing minimal re-certification.
I still wouldn't want such a "refurb" so soon after buying the phone new, but there are lots of reasons why they might have phones they consider refurb in stock.
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True, they do label those as "refurbs" as well. Would make sense they'd be mailing those out as they probably have little to no stock of brand new phones. I wouldn't care too much if I got someone's return as long as there's no cosmetic issues or mechanical issues on the device.

Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...

The issue is the uncertainly on the degree of cosmetic/mechanical issues, making it a strict no from me at the retail price.
Ideal solution would be a $200 rebate on a certified refurb unit or a full refund for the inconvenience, stress, mental angst

Gytole said:
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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I wouldn't accept anything but new within the first 30 days. In your case they definitely should be giving you a brand new one. You probably got a crappy rep, I would try again with another one. Easier said than done with how nonexistent support has been since launch. Within the first 14 days they're supposed to give new devices as a replacement. Good luck man!

Depending on how much I love the product, I usually try to rule out user error first because no product is bug-free or perfect, else simply I return it since it is clearly not worth my time trying to beta test their product and buy a more reputable and reliable product.
In the Android world, Samsung has excellent brand loyalty for this reason and something Google should learn from if they wish to retain their customer base and build brand loyalty.

I mean no disrespect at all to any fans of Samsung - I loved my Galaxy S3 a long time ago. But the way Samsung's software doesn't work well for my usage, and how they make some things not work as well as they do on Pixels made my wife and I return to Pixels and sell our Note 10+ after only a year and a half - and I usually keep a phone for 3 years or at least until it's no longer updated.
The Note 10+ hardware was top-notch. Couldn't stand the software, though, and my P6P is already working much better for my wife and I than the Note 10+ was.

Low inventory could result in sending refurbished one's...

Gytole said:
Have the Pixel 6 Pro here, noticed that when I open the camera sometimes it will just freeze up and reboot. Does this about 10 times a day. I tried reflashing the FULL OTA and Factory Images to no avail thinking it was software.
So after two hours last night of waiting to talk to customer service I tell them my issue and without hesitation she said "We will send you a new replacement phone." But it's gone be a minute and I said that's fine. I then ...and message her and go "Is it a refurbished phone a new one." She tells me they do not GIVE you a NEW phone even if it is DEFECTIVE they send you a REFURBISHED.
I told her absolutely NO thanks, in the kindest way possible, and asked if cancellation was an option, I explained I did NOT spend $1100 for a refurbished phone. Absolutely no way. She then goes on to tell me that she understands AND AGREES and that she will ask and get back to me in a few days if they can send me a NEW new one. I said if she has to jump through hoops it legit is olay to cancel it. I refuse to spend that much and have a frankenphone. You dig?
Buttt anywhooo, Just lettin y'all know...if your phone is bork, they gone sendja a refurb. You need to ASK for a new. Unless it's past the first 15 days or whatnot then you HAVE to get a refurb. But I can't live with that fact.
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I received my P6 Pro 2 days before launch, had a couple bugs, talked with a Customer Rep and got a replacement shipped on the 29.10 - the (replacement) phone arrived in new and pristine condition; phone was brand new, the packaging was new, nothing refurbished there. Mind though, that I was (ofc) still in return window.
Maybe what you say is true after a while when there are phones that have been refurbished, but as far as I can understand, not at launch. Also, as mentioned, return window might be a deciding factor.

Glad to see great customer service on Google's part. I also like that they're opening Pixel exclusive stores.
Could you elaborate on the two bugs that made it a deal breaker for you to hold on to your very first unit?
Morgrain said:
I received my P6 Pro 2 days before launch, had a couple bugs, talked with a Customer Rep and got a replacement shipped on the 29.10 - the phone arrived in new and pristine condition; phone was brand new, the packaging was new, nothing refurbished there. Mind though, that I was (ofc) still in return window.
Maybe what you say is true after a while when there are phones that have been refurbished, but as far as I can understand, not at launch.
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miravision said:
Glad to see great customer service on Google's part. I also like that they're opening Pixel exclusive stores.
Could you elaborate on the two bugs that made it a deal breaker for you to hold on to your very first unit?
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I had a couple minor quirks, but the dealbreakers for me were
a) random reboots (didn't bother me the first 1 1/2 days because they only happened in idle, but then the phone randomly rebooted whilst I used it to navigate, that was unacceptable)
b) heavy lens flicker, even with clean glass (random rays of light whenever in 70% of shot pictures against/ with the sun)
Since using the replacement device, I neither had random reboots nor any more heavy lens flicker. Its possible ofc that these were software and not hardware isses, but since I set up my P6 Pro replacement the same way that I set up the "original" p6 pro one (cable backup transfer from my previous phone), it's hard to find that out.

Gytole said:
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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Totally understand. It reminds me of my new iphone 5. I got it through the carrier by signing up. I take it home only got the camera to not work. I go back to the shop and they tell me Apple handles repairs and replacements. I'm fuming. So I immediately take the train to go to the Apple store. They tell me no appointment? no help. So I have to go home and try the next day. I ask the guy handing me the replacement if it's a new phone. He says it is. But as I'm riding the train back home I realize that in the language I asked him I was a little ambiguous with my phrasing and to this day I still wonder if it was a new phone.
Anyhow, it cost me over 20 dollars and 4 hours of my time because I was given a lemon. Thanks for letting me vent about something that was 9 years ago...

Gytole said:
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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Totally understand. It reminds me of my new iphone 5. I got it through the carrier by signing up. I take it home only got the camera to not work. I go back to the shop and they tell me Apple handles repairs and replacements. I'm fuming. So I immediately take the train to go to the Apple store. They tell me no appointment? no help. So I have to go home and try the next day. I ask the guy handing me the replacement of it's a new phone. He says it is. But as I'm riding the train back home I realize that in the language I asked him it was a little ambiguous with my phrasing.
Anyhow, it cost me over 20 dollars and 4 hours of my time because I was given a lemon. Thanks for letting me vent about something that was 9 years ago

Google has been doing this for years, this is nothing new.