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As you'll probably be aware, Google have just started rolling out the 4.0.25 update for Google Play.
They are now rolling out the 4.0.26 update which is just a minor update for bug fixes.
4.0.27 is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/3qM
v4.1.6 of the Google Play Store is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/FkV
Changelog :
* Change in open and uninstall button.
* Wishlist UI has changed from list to card style.
* Menu buttons for items list the price next to "buy"
* Update all works for apps with new permission.A popup shows the new permissions.
* The button on install menu says update all evenif you have only one app to update.
* Brings App Data cloud sync.
* Settings is light themed instead of dark themed.
v4.1.10 of the Google Play Store is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/wvO
There doesn't seem to be a Changelog posted anywhere so I guess this is just bug fixes.
v4.2.3 of the Google Play Store is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/Vp3
Again, there's no changelog available but Android Police posted the following:
I've looked through it, and from what I can tell, it has some sort of additions related to the new functionality for restricting user access to Google Play. I suspect this is used in multi-user situations, where the primary user doesn't want secondary ones to be able to install things, but I haven't been able to confirm it just yet on the Nexus 7. Maybe there is a new menu that shows up in Android 4.3...
Another theory proposed by commenter Markus is that it's possible that this new functionality is meant for restricting Play Store's usage on devices that aren't licensed to use it and don't come with it pre-installed, which would... suck, though I don't see how Google could enforce it.
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v4.2.9 of the Google Play Store is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/D2N
No major changes here either. See below:
4.2.9 seems to be an even more minor release, with several new image assets, a few new strings, and supposedly some minimal UI changes to the widgets.
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v4.3.10 of the Google Play Store is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/u38
Changelog:
*Recently Updated section - Helps to find recently updated apps without looking throughout the entire list.
*Combined update notifications - A single notification for multiple updates rather than a separate notification for each update.
*Book sales show full list prices - Now shows previous prices aswell as the current price.
*Buy and Rent buttons for Movies have swapped position.
*Wallet logo removes from next to Rent and Buy buttons.
v4.3.11 of the Google Play Store is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/CWt
There's been no Changelog posted so I guess this update is for those who experienced the "Package file is invalid" error. I'm not 100% sure about that though as I didn't have any problems.
If the error still exists or you notice anything new, let me know and I'll update this accordingly
v4.4.21 of the Google Play Store is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/7qs
Once again, I've not seen a changelog posted yet so I can't tell fully what has been changed. However, as you can see from the attached screenshot, sliding navigation has been implemented. If I find out about any other changes I'll add them to this post. Please let me know if you find any other changes aswell
v4.4.22 of the Google Play Store is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/7TS
All that appears to be new this time around is some updated translations and some code changes relating to auto-updating of apps.
v4.6.16 of the Google Play Store is now available and can be downloaded from the link below.
Download here - http://d-h.st/AAd
Changelog: Batch install in My Apps > All tab, Removing apps from My apps -> All no longer jumps to the top of the list, new Require Password options, Settings and Help moved to slide out nav, Confusing Auto-add widgets setting renamed, Play Store self update added, IAPs now included in the App permissions screen, Google+ +1 counts are now exact for large quantities, continuous security verification and finally, tweaked styles.
The above is courtesy of Android Police
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Edit: alliance is 4.1.2
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Are you guys getting it officially ? Cuz i didnt got ant of these updates !
I didn't get it officially either but some people must be
KidCarter93 said:
I didn't get it officially either but some people must be
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Or is it limited to devices running 4.2.2 ? cuz my frind had flashed cm10.1 and he got it last night but when re restored to neat rom 4.1.2 he didnt got it
anshmiester78900 said:
Or is it limited to devices running 4.2.2 ? cuz my frind had flashed cm10.1 and he got it last night but when re restored to neat rom 4.1.2 he didnt got it
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No because my Nexus 7 didn't have it until I installed this and my brothers S3 on 4.2.1 got the 4.0.25 OTA.
I'm not sure how they're rolling it out to be honest.
KidCarter93 said:
No because my Nexus 7 didn't have it until I installed this and my brothers S3 on 4.2.1 got the 4.0.25 OTA.
I'm not sure how they're rolling it out to be honest.
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Hmm no problem thanks for sharing it btw
thank, finally i can see home preview
work weel on my tablet too
Thanks for this
Sent from my Galaxy S2 Running Neatrom with Blueginger Theme
No problem
Sent from my HTC One via XDA Premium
google play officially
hi guys i get it yasterday officially and i use 4.1.2 JB firmware
thx
Google Play Store is now updated to 4.0.27
Cool thx for sharing !
thanks guys!
Thank you very much
the process of installation is the same than the other app??? (in the galaxy s2 non-rooted)
Yep. Just install as a normal apk
KidCarter93 said:
Yep. Just install as a normal apk
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thanks
was not supposed to update itself?
feel_the_power said:
thanks
was not supposed to update itself?
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Yeah I think it's meant to but this is for those who haven't got it yet and want it already
Sent from my HTC One via XDA Premium
KidCarter93 said:
Yeah I think it's meant to but this is for those who haven't got it yet and want it already
Sent from my HTC One via XDA Premium
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This is the LOLLIPOP version of my debloater.
The KITKAT version can be found here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769803
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I've made an EXTRA debloater in addition to the safe LP debloater !
See following thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development-d802/extra-stock-lp-debloater-d802-t3110347
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Must be used with TWRP or CMW recovery.
It is a "safe" debloater wich only deletes some very annoying and safe to remove bloatware and not necessary apps.
You must UNSELECT the files you want to keep , so read the list first !
DOWNLOAD : Safe Stock G2 LP debloater
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The list of selected items:
WARNING : UNSELECT LGNfc if you want to keep any app wich need remote , IR , bluetooth , payments etc. . QuickSDK and Qremote for example need this service !!
atfwd : Mirror your devices display on a TV trough WIFI
Books : Google's book reader
ChromeWithBrowser : Chrome browser
Cloudhub : If you don't use a cloud you don't need this
Drive : If you don't use google drive you don't need this
elt_test : Diagnostic test
Facelock : Unlock your phone by face recognition
Gmail2 : Gmail client
GnnsAirTest : GLONASS -russian satellites- Airwave test
GnnsLogCat
GnnsPosTest : GLONASS Positioning test
GnnsTest : GLONASS test
Hangouts : Google messaging app
LGEIME_THEME_BLACK3 : Black LG keyboard theme
LGFOTA : Update ota , recommended to delete on rooted devices
LGNotebook
LgNfc : Near field communication , needed for bluetooth , payments , remotes and etc. Quicksdk and QRemote need this as well !!!
LGSearchWidgetProvider : Search widget
Newsstand : discover more of the news and magazines
PlusOne : Google plus
PrintSpooler : Make connection with your printer
QuicksetSDK : Controls IR sensor
SmartShare : Access your phone trough your TV
SmartShareDLNA : Smartshare needs this
SmartShareProvider : Smartshare needs this
talkback : Service that helps blind and vision-impaired users interact with their devices
LGBoxnet
LGSafetyCare
LGSmartWorld
LGBackup : Backup on LG
LGBrowser
LGCb : Cell Broadcast
LGEmail : LG email client
LGQMemoplus : Quick memo
LGUpdateCenter : Recommended to delete on rooted devices
LGQRemote : Remote for your television ,stereo installation etc.
LGRemoteCall
LGQVoiceplus : Better to use Google now as alternative
LGVideoEditor
MLT : LG is watching you
TagGoogle
WiseScreen : Screen should stay on when it detects your face
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Latest version : 2015-05-14
Would it make sense to include smartcover and weather for those who run xposed?
obvious said:
Would it make sense to include smartcover and weather for those who run xposed?
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Will be added this Sunday or Monday , because i'm away for 2 days.
Is there anyway to remove "Preload" folder symlink?
I've removed it from system, but it keeps recreating after reboot..
Mako0 said:
Is there anyway to remove "Preload" folder symlink?
I've removed it from system, but it keeps recreating after reboot..
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True that!!!!so annoying
New EXTRA debloater online
I've made an "EXTRA" debloater in addition to the safe one with all suggestions so far
See this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development-d802/extra-stock-lp-debloater-d802-t3110347
Hello, I have used this debloater, and unselected "QuicksetSDK" and "QRemote" but for some reason, QRemote isnt there anymore, how can I get it back? I can't find where to get the .apk for it.
Really great, much appreciated.
Cuzmanbro said:
Hello, I have used this debloater, and unselected "QuicksetSDK" and "QRemote" but for some reason, QRemote isnt there anymore, how can I get it back? I can't find where to get the .apk for it.
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I have this issue as well.
The first thing in my mind is that it uses an other service ... maybe lgnfc ?
I'll look it up on monday ... no time this weekend , sorry
Kuoi said:
The first thing in my mind is that it uses an other service ... maybe lgnfc ?
I'll look it up on monday ... no time this weekend , sorry
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Tried a moment ago and quick remote works if you keep lgnfc
Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
Cuzmanbro said:
Hello, I have used this debloater, and unselected "QuicksetSDK" and "QRemote" but for some reason, QRemote isnt there anymore, how can I get it back? I can't find where to get the .apk for it.
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c3l5o said:
I have this issue as well.
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Can one of you test to dirty flash the rom you use again , reboot , boot to recovery again and then use the debloater but don't select LGNFC , QUICKSETSDK and QREMOTE !
That should do the trick.
Greetings, Kuoi
Kuoi said:
Can one of you test to dirty flash the rom you use again , reboot , boot to recovery again and then use the debloater but don't select LGNFC , QUICKSETSDK and QREMOTE !
That should do the trick.
Greetings, Kuoi
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Nice Zip Kuoi, I can confirm that your trick works.
Google Play Movies, Google Play Games, Google Play Music, SIM Toolkit, Voice Memo and Video Editor are still in my ROM after applying your Script.
Can anybody confirm? Would it be possible to add these apps to your ZIP?
Gregor07 said:
Nice Zip Kuoi, I can confirm that your trick works.
Google Play Movies, Google Play Games, Google Play Music, SIM Toolkit, Voice Memo and Video Editor are still in my ROM after applying your Script.
Can anybody confirm? Would it be possible to add these apps to your ZIP?
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I'll add them this weekend to my EXTRA debloater.
Will let you know when it's ready
Gregor07 said:
Nice Zip Kuoi, I can confirm that your trick works.
Google Play Movies, Google Play Games, Google Play Music, SIM Toolkit, Voice Memo and Video Editor are still in my ROM after applying your Script.
Can anybody confirm? Would it be possible to add these apps to your ZIP?
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Go to my EXTRA debloater thread ... i've added Google Play Movies, Google Play Games, Google Play Music, SIM Toolkit, Voice Memo and Video Editor
Link to Extra debloater in OP
BTW : I've learned a lot today ,because when i was trying to remove the google services (play movies,games,music) the folders where deleted but i had still the apps on my phone.
I've installed an apk info app , and so i could figure out that these apps also use an other folder on the data partition ... so now it's fixed.
All recommendations are still welcome
Kuoi,
GREAT WORK! I can confirm that it is working. Here my observations:
- after I ran the ZIP the Google Apps (Google Play Movies, Google Play Games, Google Play Music) where still there but now it was possible to uninstall them within Lollipop.
- SIM Toolkit, Voice Memo and Video Editor are deleted as expected by executing the ZIP
- in your App your comment about SIM Toolkit is that you do not recommend to delete it. Why? I have deleted SIM-Toolkit and the LG G2 runs normally
- maybe you can add Youtube to the list?
- maybe you can add Music to the list - assuming that there are plenty of free music apps in Google Play
- in the safe LP debloater you can delete Mail - isn't that one of the basic apps that should remain in the OS?
- maybe it would be easier for you as developer and for users to put the safe and the extra debloater together into one ZIP. There you could maintain two categories (save and extra).
Regards,
Gregor
Gregor07 said:
Kuoi,
GREAT WORK! I can confirm that it is working. Here my observations:
- after I ran the ZIP the Google Apps (Google Play Movies, Google Play Games, Google Play Music) where still there but now it was possible to uninstall them within Lollipop.
- SIM Toolkit, Voice Memo and Video Editor are deleted as expected by executing the ZIP
- in your App your comment about SIM Toolkit is that you do not recommend to delete it. Why? I have deleted SIM-Toolkit and the LG G2 runs normally
- maybe you can add Youtube to the list?
- maybe you can add Music to the list - assuming that there are plenty of free music apps in Google Play
- in the safe LP debloater you can delete Mail - isn't that one of the basic apps that should remain in the OS?
- maybe it would be easier for you as developer and for users to put the safe and the extra debloater together into one ZIP. There you could maintain two categories (save and extra).
Regards,
Gregor
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Thanks for the info.
Did you use D802 and stock LP rom to remove Google apps ? On my device they were deleted after the debloat and i didn't have to uninstall them afterwarts.
I'll delete the sim toolkit coomment because it's only with some sim's and in some countries it seems to give a little problem.
Youtube and music will be added soon
I'll keep mail on the debloater because i don't use Gmail ... it's not a necessary app to keep your phone working.
You're right .. i didn't think about it ,but I'll put the 2 versions together in 1 zip.
I could put them on 1 flash zip , but according to me the list would be too long and imo the extra is more for people who know what they're doing and what they're removing
Thanks for the reply
Hi Kuoi,
yes, D802 with stock LP but I got it as a ZIP (Software version V20b-OPEN-COM) to be installed through TWRP - so maybe it is not 100% original.
Regarding Mail I was referring to "LGEmail : LG email client". I understand that Gmail ist no a neccessary app.
Of course it is ok to have 2 ZIPs. But IMHO there are also some sophisticated apps in the safe ZIP, f. e.
- Facelock: I would not know of any app that can be engaged into setting
- LgNfc: it is required for the NFC hardware
- LGBrowser: ok you can use any other browser
But maybe I am mistaken since I am not too experienced with Android. So in the end your ZIPs are great so safe a lot of storage :good:
Regards,
Gregor
UPDATE
NEW FULL debloater online ... , handy and stable "all in one"-debloater
FULL G2 LP Debloater thread
This thread can be removed.
New updated version here folks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development-d802/extra-stock-lp-debloater-d802-t3110347
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Hi all,
yesterday I have updated to the latest Malaysk ROM for my RK3188.
I have already purchased the latest version on Next 3D launcher on Google Play Store.
Now when I reboot the device, Next Launcher tells me that there is no purchase verification available on Play Store.
After the message Next Launcher is gone!
So I searched on the web and found the Lucky Patcher that will "patch" the Play Store to fix the problem.
So far installation of the Lucky Patcher and the modified store was successful - BUT on next reboot the Next Launcher still throws the error message and is disabled afterwards.
Are there any additional steps needed to make this work?
Thanks for your help
André
If you're using the launcher version included in the ROM, this app might be patched and so might fail the Google Play verification.
Since you have purchased the legitimate version, simply uninstall the ROM launcher app and install a new one from the Google Play.
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If you're using the launcher version included in the ROM, this app might be patched and so might fail the Google Play verification.
Since you have purchased the legitimate version, simply uninstall the ROM launcher app and install a new one from the Google Play.
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The launcher is NOT included in the ROM. I have already installed it again from the store.
So - sorry - not fixed
Thanx
AZimek said:
The launcher is NOT included in the ROM. I have already installed it again from the store.
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The Next Launcher is actually INCLUDED in the Maklaysk's ROM, maybe is not the 3D version...
See:
Malaysk said:
800X480and 1024X600 RK3188 and RK3066 March 7,9 2016
Android base on February 17, 2016
New launcher (Preferences - Desktop) - KGL, KLD, JY, Next Launcher
Added converted widget RADIO
Replaced fonts
Many other additions and fixes.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65698556&postcount=1962
themissionimpossible said:
The Next Launcher is actually INCLUDED in the Maklaysk's ROM, maybe is not the 3D version...
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65698556&postcount=1962
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I will check the ROM and do a fresh reinstall.
Thx André
AZimek said:
I will check the ROM and do a fresh reinstall.
Thx André
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I finally managed to get Next Launcher working in my existing Malaysk ROM.
Can't tell the reason, because I had to try several things.
First of all I needed to install/activate the preinstalled Xposed framework.
Player around with some switches in Lucky Patcher and user the Google Play Store Installer (from within Lucky Patcher).
After that installed Next Launcher from (modded) Google Playstore again and finally the purchase verification worked.
So thanks everybody for your support !
André
I have installed Miui China beta Rom on my Redmi note 5 pro, but it comes with nonsense Chinese app and no Google services ...
Is there any options to install Google services and play store and remove all nonsense Chinese app
I think you should use xiaomi.eu.
vikasrmourya said:
I have installed Miui China beta Rom on my Redmi note 5 pro, but it comes with nonsense Chinese app and no Google services ...
Is there any options to install Google services and play store and remove all nonsense Chinese app
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Talking about a way there are 2 ways
1. Open app store and type Google and drag down u wil see play store icon and download this to install play services.To remove bloat u have to remove manually but still u can't remove all unless u r rooted
2. Second way is use Xiaomi.Eu rom which is based on china stable/weekly and comes without any bloat and more features than global version (I am using Xiaomi.eu 26th march 2020 build)
Cheers
Thanks Bro, I Know This Methods but I want to 2 it by my self. I have rooted the phone. When ever I try to remove all the nonsense Chinese app (Like Get app) and convert play store and play services as system app device just doesn't boot us...
How do Xioami.eu Does it. It's uses Chinese Rom as base and just removes all the Chinese app and add play store... How can I do the same
vikasrmourya said:
Thanks Bro, I Know This Methods but I want to 2 it by my self. I have rooted the phone. When ever I try to remove all the nonsense Chinese app (Like Get app) and convert play store and play services as system app device just doesn't boot us...
How do Xioami.eu Does it. It's uses Chinese Rom as base and just removes all the Chinese app and add play store... How can I do the same
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Well how eu devs do this, I don't know but rooting can sure help u remove bloats
vikasrmourya said:
I have installed Miui China beta Rom on my Redmi note 5 pro, but it comes with nonsense Chinese app and no Google services ...
Is there any options to install Google services and play store and remove all nonsense Chinese app
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Wrong section. This has nothing to do with development.
How to install gms for huawei nova 7 se? I have tried for all from youtube but the lzplay doesn'ts work for this device. Anyone can help me to solve it. Thank you
waiting for answers as well. tried everything on the internet
Things I found out:
*uninstalling google play services will access google play store.
*disable any internet connection will access google play store.
seems like google playstore services has something to do with blocking huawei devices
is it possible to make a mock device app using nova 7 se to bypass google play services?
Progress so far:
* I was able to make google account with email signed-in in accounts at android settings
* I was able to sign in an email in Google Playstore using backup and restore with an OTG
* I was able to install google apps properly using go google installer with backup and restore
What I tried and didn't work:
*go google installer will not work without using backup and restore method
*chat partner doesn't work (no connection error) even with wifi on
*LZplay error (*translated in english "device is not supported)
My thoughts for resolution:
*emui/android ver. downgrade?
* make device rooted so it can use device id changer (might be able to bypass google play services)
I actually spend 2 days non stop figuring out why everything in the internet does not work in installing google playstore on huawei nova 7 se. I am not an expert with this kind of issue but sort of frustrated. I hope someone can find an answer to fix this problem.
credits to:
firlando234
ninjatechique
androidgeek
Can we unlock the bootloader and install the open gapps?
Hi. Would you mind sharing how you managed to get some of it working? I am using Matepad 10.4 and we seem to be in the same boat (also with P40 Lite 5G).
crimson4550 said:
Things I found out:
*uninstalling google play services will access google play store.
*disable any internet connection will access google play store.
seems like google playstore services has something to do with blocking huawei devices
is it possible to make a mock device app using nova 7 se to bypass google play services?
Progress so far:
* I was able to make google account with email signed-in in accounts at android settings
* I was able to sign in an email in Google Playstore using backup and restore with an OTG
* I was able to install google apps properly using go google installer with backup and restore
What I tried and didn't work:
*go google installer will not work without using backup and restore method
*chat partner doesn't work (no connection error) even with wifi on
*LZplay error (*translated in english "device is not supported)
My thoughts for resolution:
*emui/android ver. downgrade?
* make device rooted so it can use device id changer (might be able to bypass google play services)
I actually spend 2 days non stop figuring out why everything in the internet does not work in installing google playstore on huawei nova 7 se. I am not an expert with this kind of issue but sort of frustrated. I hope someone can find an answer to fix this problem.
credits to:
firlando234
ninjatechique
androidgeek
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Same here ...I have friends with 7se and intrigued to get gapps on their devices
Gms on Huawei Nova 7 SE
Me too, I tried everything on the internet but no luck till now. The problem is some apps which I use depends on gapps to function correctly like Microsoft Teams
Can nova 7 se be rooted yet?
I want to get google apps on my phone, but need to downgrade... does anyone know which firmware for nova 7 se works well with googlefier?
maybe you can try with this web page
How to Install Google Play Store or GMS on Huawei Nova 7 and 7 Pro (5G)
Advertisements Let’s check out the steps to install the Google Play Store or GMS on your Huawei Nova 7 and 7 Pro. Due to the ongoing US-China Trade War, there are quite a few parties at loss. Among them, Huawei and particularly its user base seems to be the most
www.getdroidtips.com
Alan_Zeng said:
maybe you can try with this web page
How to Install Google Play Store or GMS on Huawei Nova 7 and 7 Pro (5G)
Advertisements Let’s check out the steps to install the Google Play Store or GMS on your Huawei Nova 7 and 7 Pro. Due to the ongoing US-China Trade War, there are quite a few parties at loss. Among them, Huawei and particularly its user base seems to be the most
www.getdroidtips.com
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The files required to download is no longer available.
I cannot find a way to install gms Yet too
How to install gms for huawei nova 7 5G?I have tried for all from youtube but the lzplay doesn'ts work for this device. Anyone can help me to solve it. Thank you
So huawei nova 7se really cant download gps huh...
Anyway, can the problem be solved if we can downgrade Emui 10.1.1 to 10.0?
Try this way. It worked for me on nova 7 5g. Tested on 18/04/21
How to install Google Play Store on Huawei Nova 7 Easy way
How to install Google Play Store on Huawei Nova 7 Easy way all Google services like Youtube, Google Maps, Google Drive, Gmail...
huaweiflash.com
the link is not accessible, please share? anyone?
Rakab Aman said:
Try this way. It worked for me on nova 7 5g. Tested on 18/04/21
How to install Google Play Store on Huawei Nova 7 Easy way
How to install Google Play Store on Huawei Nova 7 Easy way all Google services like Youtube, Google Maps, Google Drive, Gmail...
huaweiflash.com
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i tried this, but i can't login my existing google account.
Nova 7se and nova 7 5g not u lockable as of yet. But can use dual sense or gspace or one play to have access to Gplay services In a sandbox. Check on www.ictfix.net
tried using googleify but it doesnt seem to work for the nova
I have nova 7 5g and nothing has worked... I tried all sorts and at one point had play store working but still GPS won't work in other apps